Proflere: Lol, we are already living in zoo. Unless you don't want to come out clean and speak the truth, but then I will analyse that for you. Never as one of this been seen as symbol of violence, but the other has been used to put unnecessary phobia in people as it has been used so many times to conceal bombs that end up killing so many people (well I know you will say that is by religion extremist, but it is not my fault that they are extreme, why have I not seen one of the others too in such extremely dangerous behavior). On the other hand, one of this is chosen at will after you already reach a certain age where you make choices for yourself whereas the other is compulsory so far your parent believe in it. I don't still have problem with that. One of this will never force their way to change the narrative of a secular world like Nigeria, you will never see one wanting to carry his regalia to schools as kids, to court as lawyers or to a gathering where they represent the Interest of every Nigerians because they respect the constitution that place Nigeria in a secular state. But then the other would always want to change the narration of things by forcing acceptance on people. There are thousands of Islamic schools that will not have issues with hijab, but then, it is that school that wants to be secular and not bring religious matter into its dealing that this other one will say by force they want to go. Now tell me, would you blame anybody who has experienced any issues associated with this other one for having problem with one of this and okaying the other one?
I think instead of preaching acceptance, we should rather give people reasons to accept. Show them that the stigma associated with this other one is a mere mind issues created by fear and then you will see people freely associating with both without any issues. I can tell Atheist will conveniently choose one of this over the other, does that mean an atheist is also a religious fanatic? You now see that there is a major work to be done in order to reassure people that they both mean well and not otherwise.
PS: I am indifferent. I evaluate you as humans and not based on any symbol you carry.
if Nigeria is a secular country, why is CAN involved in politics?. Why do you have pastor VP?. why do you have multiple mega churches?. Who are you guys deceiving?. Why do you pray morning devotion at work and schools if Nigeria is a secular country?. Why do you people like deceiving yourselves?
HONESTFACT101: Hope Christians will also be permitted to hold MORAL INSTRUCTIONS in muslim schools......signing out✈
The constitution also shows for you to dress yours too. So why are you petite being so mischievous?. CAN has advised Christians to wear their RELIGIOUS regalia to school as well. But guess what?. It didn't last a week .
pls I need the link to dah Molotov cocktail story?
that must be typo error but to be honest with you, I am confused about the two whether it happened in Iwo or Owo but it happened. I mixed their names all the time. As for the link, I am sure you should be able to get info somehow.
But I will ask people that were involved with police if I can get link from them. If they find it will send you.
NwaAdazzi: Lol,Typical Empiree, I've known u ur moniker for some time now,U and Christianity don't see eye to eye,but still yet we all know hu did it everybody knows
" dragging stuff"
maybe there were dragging land or it was a drug war,ave heard u can now rest I believe u,Nigerians believe u..
keep deceiving yourself. Until you ask the church management what they are dragging with their counterparts I won't take you serious. It was the same Iwo few years ago where pastor and his members devised molotov cocktail plot inside their church and blamed muslims but God so good they were caught by Muslims who quickly alerted the police.
So who cares if you blow up yourselves?. In as much as you don't put the blame on others I'm fine.
NwaAdazzi: we all know who dis this,dont bring ozubuluhere, deep down in your heart u know,look at those little kids in dah brochure!!What was their crime?
and because kids were killed means what?. Why are you pointing fingers elsewhere?. Can't you look into internal church activities first and see who they have been dragging stuff with in the first place?. So far, the only suspect is the church itself.
Creeza: Sorrowful!! Nigeria is a sitting time-bomb! May God help us
stop wishing negatively about Nigeria. I am due culprits of this sad incident are folks in the same community. Anambra 2017 shooting teaches us important lessons.
Cyynthia: Next is full establishment of Sharia law not only in Lagos, but the entire south west.. No wonder MURIC/Yoruba Muslims and Tinubu are pushing for a Muslim Muslim ticket.....
Yoruba christians wake up and stop being docile.. Think about the future of your children.. Those idio*t shouting religion doesn't matter will never tolerate this if it's the other way round...
I repeat..... Yoruba Christians Wake Up!!
why are you pained over hijab?. Muslims own Nigeria... Don't you get it?. Since you guys have been yawning for "islamisation", so shall it be. We are giving it to you. Deal with it
Christistruth00: This Judgement also means that Christians are also free to wear Crucifix Neclaces to School
ofcourse no one stopped them from wearing theirs. They chose to but they got tired of wearing it. Jealousy go kill you kiriyo.
Comedy Of Hypocrisy: How CAN led Christian Students to wear Church gowns to school
"Reacting to the verdict, CAN threatened that, should the government implement the judgment, they will ask their children to wear Church garments to school. They (CAN) made good their threat as some students of Baptist high school, Iwo, Osun State wore Church garments to school"
J3susFr3ak: The list is not exhaustive. Egba for Christ. Saganmu for Christ. Even....Empiree for Christ! ...the Christ Revolution never failed friend! It is only just getting started!
See this one. You better not waste your time with me. Muslims are rational about religion. I have been debating religion here since 2015. So don't even waste your time with me.
Or if you want to join WhatsApp group where you can convert as many people as you want, send your number I will give it to admin to add you. You will be free to convert as many Muslims as you want.
Stop wasting your time with Jesus. He has no business with you. He was sent ONLY to the lost sheep in Israel but you are African. So you see you are wasting your time.
J3susFr3ak: Fun fact: If Oduduwa nation should form tomorrow, what type of constitution do you think they would opt for? Even Pa Awolowo would strongly champion a secular constitution that guarantees freedom of speech, freedom of religion and freedom of association.
All Terrorist Sharia countries of this world are scared of a secular constitution that guarantees this freedoms because they are afraid Christians would boldly go into the streets and preach the Bible by encouraging their Muslim citizens to "Repent...accept Jesus Christ before it is too late!"
Islam and Sharia are mental, spiritual and physical prisons designed by the fake Prophet Mohammed to cage its followers to their own destruction!
Have the not being doing this for free for decades but they have woefully failed?. Were you not aware of Christians in Nigeria were funded to destroy Islam within 10 years in the 90s by foreign govts but they failed?. You aren't aware of this?. It was a 10 years contract. Those days with beautiful and attracted posters every corner in Yorubaland "Ijebu for Christ", "Egba for Christ", Lagos for Christ, Kwara for Christ and so on. They are funded btw 1990 to 2000 to obliterate Islam in Nigeria but they failed. This was the time they wrote their Christian terror manifesto. Maybe you should ask former pastor Matthew Oyewole. He will tell you everything. He was even jailed for 3yrs in '93 for converting to Islam and yet you said Nigeria is secular country?. Talk about deception. Secularism has nothing to do with Jesus. Secularism means detaching God from way of life.
If you are a priest, pastor or whatever, you better drop the position and look for work. Otherwise, you will suffer the consequences later in life. Those pastors and reverends that converted to Islam realized how their lives were wasted in Christianity because they had no skills, no jobs but pastoral job where they scam people. Another one was former Rev. Jomoh. They just wasted his time in Christianity on lies. He is now in his 70s and doesn't know how to work because he never did. This is former pastor Matthew Oyewole
gimakon2: The ones who attacked a church, christians too?
which church, Owo Ondo state?. Well no evidence pointed to who they are but I won't be surprised if they are either political terrorists sent to send clear message to their governor or members of the community who had scores to settle with the church. Remember 2017 church shooting in Anambra?.
And they said Nigeria is a secular country?. Who so much focus Muslim Muslim tickets Christian Muslim ticket. Is it not clear that Nigeria is a secular country?. Why are we deceiving ourselves in this country?
gimakon2: Did u say Hide? I am not hiding anything What drove the christians into the so called Terrorism?
what's so special about Christian terrorists?. They exist whether you like it or not. Come to US. All the people that are killing fellow Americans are Christians. Westbrook Southern Baptist was designated Christian extremist group during Bush administration.
J3susFr3ak: And you forgot to add that Boko Haram emerged during OBjs time as an overt insulting reaction by Muslims in the core North who decided to declare Sharia as their fundamental governing rule in clear violation of the country's secular constitution--all of which was a bitter reaction to having a Christian President lead the country for the first time after many years of Muslim Military rule? The Sharia madness started in Zamfara...but Bonu Sherif of Borno decided to go a step further by being one of the chief sponsors of this insane Jihadist Islamic group as the violent wing of Sharia? Yes? Just the way Buhari has opulently sponsored Fulani Herder Terrorist in his time to also be another violent wing of Islamic Jihadist movement in order to actualize total Sharia....because the Islamic Devil told them to?
When did a Christian urge the Muslims to do these things to themselves and the nation at large? If I were OBJ I would have had a string constitutional conference long ago to force the states to come to a final decision. Those who want Sharia rule...go and form their new country. Those who want civilized secular rule....should also go and form their own country.
Problem solved!
Do you know what secular country means?. It means bye bye to Jesus. Why don't you rule by biblical laws instead of relying on godless secular constitution?. Why the hypocrisy?
J3susFr3ak: Why would I leave Jesus alone since He is the core cornerstone and pillar of my faith and the Perfect Example for all Christians. You keep on mentioning Deborah and her death. Let me remind you that John the Baptist who was a cousin of Jesus Christ himself had greater legal grounds for a divine intervention. Yet Jesus watched on quietly as Herod and the Roman Government of that time "beheaded" John the Baptist after he was thrown in prison.
If God did not intervene directly for Deborah...we do know that the same Jesus she has had faith in and the same Holy Ghost WILL BRING HER BODY BACK TO LIFE AGAIN at the Resurrection of the Dead when Christ returns. We believe she is with Christ now which is far better than the mess down here --with the sins and abominations being added each and everyday by sinners and muslims alike.
You still waiting for Jesus?. You go wait tire. One of your pastors said there won't be rapture and Jesus will not return. Don't waste your time my friend.
ALL Muslims outside of Christ DO NOT have such a hope AT ALL! If you reject Jesus Christ who is the Resurrection and the Life.... where else will your hope for life lie? You trust in physical weapons for your ultimate power and think that is the true definition of real power and control. Yet the same things you trust in will be the same things that turn around to HOUND you to your own death!
See this one. You don't know Jesus beyond what you studied in your Bible School. Let me burst your bubble. No Muslim is a Muslim if he doesn't believe in Jesus.... lobatan. However Jesus is not our savior. He was no more than a messanger and a prophet. Interestingly he was sent to the Israelites only not you. Stop wasting your precious time waiting for him. Muslims hope in God alone for salvation.
Yes I believe Christians should take extra security precautions. And I believe during the time of OBJ when Muslims were busy copying Middle Eastern suicide bombings and targeting Christian Churches...a lot of Christians were extra vigilant and had extra security mounting the Churches. I think the Churches got too lax when the whole terrorist approach shifted to killing and kidnapping innocent villagers, bombing trains, kidnapping motorists etc.,...and now it is gradually shifting back to kidnapping Pastors and Bishops.
story story. I told you terrorist BH was created during Obj regime.. Obj is Christian which means he knew about the creation of terrorists. Ask him and he will tell you more.
Muslims arm themselves to the teeth because the sin in their hearts make them think Christians have their time. No. The only attack Muslims should fear are from their own fellow Muslims.
we fear nothing. You better arm yourself and stop relying on Holy Ghost in church. It doesn't work. This isn't Nollywood but reality.
Christians are peace loving people who do not go out of their way to display any interest or boasting in shedding innocent blood the way you Muslims do. It is Christians who need the extra caution....and I have copiously advised on this NL forum for the diverse Churches to invest in many forms of deterrent security.
Clintonn, Ubama & Goorge W. are Christians and they destroyed 9 Muslim countries in 24 years, they were supported by evangelical Christians. Yet you said Christians are peaceful?
Let the hired security do their jobs. And let the worshipers of God....worship Jesus Christ as they should.
Ma di ra ooo. Shey o ti gbo?. Je ki awon pastors be deceiving you. Your Bible already told you to pick up your sword. Stop pretending Luke 22:36