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IslamRe: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by Empiree: 3:31am On Dec 10, 2020
Yusuf Adepoju (ACADIP) Tackles Pastor Femi William- Cautions Him Against Blasphemous Utterances.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsePMZB8bIo
CrimeRe: Missing Hunchback Man Found Dead Two Weeks After He Was Kidnapped (Graphic) by Empiree: 3:06am On Dec 10, 2020
aycorporat:
Is there a force that convinces all these ritualist that there is promotion to wealth if these things are done?
A whole human being!

Did Bill Gates, Mark Zuckerberg, Jeff, do all these before crossing the benchmark?

It will never be well with your killers, rest in peace
It is not about "It will never be well with your killers". This is homicide and serious investigation should commence immediately. Nigeria and African environment do not carry out forensic investigation. It is either politicians are behind this or same poor people that are blaming Buhari for everything that gone wrong in the country. Police need to do the needful and not allow criminals to go free.

Police don't need permission from politicians to investigate crimes. Africa has a long way to go
IslamRe: Bilal The Blackman Was Never Set Free By Prophet Muhammad by Empiree: 9:48pm On Dec 09, 2020
advocatejare:
Allah is not God, Allah is an idol represented by moon and star.
trust me, I will never argue with you about these words because you are simply just being foolish. I will allow your fellow Christians reply you

IslamRe: Bilal The Blackman Was Never Set Free By Prophet Muhammad by Empiree: 5:20pm On Dec 09, 2020
advocatejare:
God performed miracles through Jesus, no doubt about that but have you asked yourself why Allah never considered Muhammad worthy of performing any miracles through him?
It's either Allah was a powerless god or Muhammad was fake and an impostor.
Allah is God. God is Allah. Why is this difficult for you?. Are you saying that God that used Jesus to perform miracle could not use Muhammad to perform miracle?. Anyways, that's by the way. You have admitted Jesus did not perform the miracles but Allah did it through him. So Jesus did not perform any miracles contrary to Christian propaganda. Case closed



God did miracles by Jesus.

I'm happy that you know that Jesus is the one that judges and his judgement is just. Even your Muhammad confirmed this that Jesus will rule the world with justice.
The Sahih hadith reported Muhammad saying that The Hour will not come until Jesus will come back. Jesus is coming as a just ruler because he's the only just ruler just like Yahweh his father. He will abolish the unjust tax Muhammad levied on the Christians. He's coming to judge the world. Hallelujah
this is subjective. There are people that disputed this narration. But that's not the issue here. The issue here is that Jesus being the judge. Let's go to your Bible to prove that Jesus can not pass independent judgement without God's permission. He judges based on directives from God.


Jesus said in John 5:30


"By myself I can do nothing; I judge only as I hear, and my judgment is just, for I seek not to please myself but him who sent me.


You judge me by human standards, but I do not judge anyone. John 8:15


"The heavens declare his righteousness, for God himself is judge" Psalm 50:6


"But it is God alone who executes judgment...," Psalm 75:7

These are just a few. This show that Jesus is not the judge. In the Hadith you referred to, it is talking in the sense of worldly court (judgement) like judicial system of govt not Divine judgement.






Have you asked yourself why Allah didn't find muhammad worthy of giving him permission to perform any miracles?
God gave His messagers miracles to the people they were sent based on their beliefs. People at the time believed in miracles. So in order to convince them, God gave those prophets and messagers miracles to convince them. The same was given to Moses. He performed miracles too. Miracle of prophet muhammad SAW is Qur'an. As you can see it is still valid today untampered with.



You just confirmed it that Jesus raised the dead.

Your Quran also confirmed it that Jesus raised the dead:
"And [make him] a messenger to the Children of Israel, [who will say], 'Indeed I have come to you with a sign from your Lord in that I design for you from clay [that which is] like the form of a bird, then I breathe into it and it becomes a bird by permission of Allah. And I cure the blind and the leper, and I give life to the dead -by permission of Allah.And I inform you of what you eat and what you store in your houses. Indeed in that is a sign for you, if you are believers." Sura Al-Imran 49

The father of the dead child knew that his child was dead. Jesus said she was asleep because he knew he would raise her from the dead, and when he said that girl was asleep the people present laughed because they felt he didn't know what he was saying until he proved to them that he was resurrection and life.
Matt.9.18 - While he was saying this, a ruler came and knelt before him and said, "My daughter has just died. But come and put your hand on her, and she will live."

Matt.9.24 - he said, "Go away. The girl is not dead but asleep." But they laughed at him.
Matt.9.25 - After the crowd had been put outside, he went in and took the girl by the hand, and she got up.

When Muhammad died, maybe his people thought Allah would wake him, so they left him unattended to for 3 days but he never woke up, death defeated him forever.
You are kidding right?. Did I not prove to you that he didn't perform miracles?. I told you that it was God who performed those miracles to honor Jesus. Jesus performed nothing.


I'm not pained, I'm proud to say that Jesus died on the cross for me, and I can proudly say it. Just as all Christians but can you Muslims be proud to say that Muhammad died of poison and he eventually died during sex on the top of Aisha, the most filthy death anyone can die
first all, you admmited Jesus died at the hands of his enemies. And you quietly admmited that he did not raise from dead as your Bible clearly stated. I already gave you reference. Your salvation relies heavily on resurrection of jesus. And your Bible says that Jesus did not resurrect. Therefore, those Christians who died believing that they are sleeping in the Lord have perished. I didn't say this. It is your Bible that said this. So all generations of christians are going to hellfire and you too if you don't leave Christianity. Hell awaits you. Christianity is false religion of Paul, the liar.

You also claimed Jesus died for your sin. This is another false tale. It is itan ijapa ati yanibo cooked up by Mr. Paul. Jesus did not die for anybody. Your Bible said so.

Ezekiel 18:1-4

Then another message came to me from the lord: Why do you quote this proverb concerning the land of Israel: ‘The parents have eaten sour grapes, but their children’s mouths pucker at the taste’? As surely as I live, says the Sovereign lord, you will not quote this proverb anymore in Israel.
For all people are mine to judge—both parents and children alike. And this is my rule: The person who sins is the one who will die.




Teaching of Jesus for forgiveness of sins is you pray to God for forgiveness not by believing Jesus died for you. This is Pauline doctrine. Paul changed so many teachings of Jesus Mathew 6: 1-14

https://thechurchoftruth.org/jesus-did-not-die-for-your-sins/

Atonement and blood of Jesus are paul's false teachings. I treated this topic on this platform 5 years ago.


Lastly, you said prophet muhammad SAW died during sex on his wife. Where is your evidence of this allegation?.

Second, if he died on his wife, she was his wife not agbere (adultery). So there is nothing wrong dying on your wife during sex. As you can see, let's assume that's true. This is another proof that prophet muhammad SAW died in enjoyment and enjoyed himself while your Jesus died a painful, violent death in public. As you can see from the mockery video of a Jewish girl, your Jesus died a mockery painful death. You see how Jewish lady mocked him yet you kiriyo love Jews unconditionally but they don't love you. They make mockery of your god or son of God. Qur'an confirms this



"And because of their saying (in boast), "We killed Messiah 'Iesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary), the Messenger of Allah," - but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but the resemblance of 'Iesa (Jesus) was put over another man (and they killed that man), and those who differ therein are full of doubts. They have no (certain) knowledge, they follow nothing but conjecture. For surely; they killed him not [i.e. 'Iesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary) ]:" Q4:157


Now watch this 1 min Jewish video boosting that they killed Jesus and they are proud of it. Be sure you watch it


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lY6DQt2aGI0

And in case you skip the video I will help you type it out. This Jewish boy said:

"We killed Jesus and we proud of it."

"You and your fuvking Jesus"


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IoCZO98CEs
IslamRe: Bilal The Blackman Was Never Set Free By Prophet Muhammad by Empiree: 4:13pm On Dec 09, 2020
Camelot65:
Lol cheesy There's nothing contradictory in those verses, it's only your lack of understanding that caused it , the funniest thing is the more you keep digging, the more you expose your ignorance.....First you claimed Paul isn't a Jew, I shouldn't have taken you serious in the first place

The first is a narration from a third party(Luke) reporting what happened Acts 9. While in Acts 22 Paul was giving his own encounter about what he saw....

The original greek word can used as both hear or understand depending on the context , they heard the voice but couldn't understand what was being said....

The voice they heard in 9:7 is in the genitive case with regard to those with Paul. In Acts 22:9, the “voice” they do not hear is in the accusative case. When the object of the verb “to hear” is in the accusative case, the sense of the verb is often “to hear with understanding.” 

4 He fell to the ground and heard a voice say to him, “Saul, Saul, why do you persecute me?”.......Now, the Lord was speaking only to Paul.......Reason why they couldn't understand That which was being said

Acts 9:3-7
King James Version

3 And as he journeyed, he came near Damascus: and suddenly there shined round about him a light from heaven:

4 And he fell to the earth, and heard a voice saying unto him, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me?

5 And he said, Who art thou, Lord? And the Lord said, I am Jesus whom thou persecutest: it is hard for thee to kick against the pricks.

6 And he trembling and astonished said, Lord, what wilt thou have me to do? And the Lord said unto him, Arise, and go into the city, and it shall be told thee what thou must do.

7 And the men which journeyed with him stood speechless, hearing a voice, but seeing no man.

This a reported speech from Paul to luke




Acts 22:6-9 King James Version

6 And it came to pass, that, as I made my journey, and was come nigh unto Damascus about noon, suddenly there shone from heaven a great light round about me.

7 And I fell unto the ground, and heard a voice saying unto me, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me?

8 And I answered, Who art thou, Lord? And he said unto me, I am Jesus of Nazareth, whom thou persecutest.

9 And they that were with me saw indeed the light, and were afraid; but they heard not the voice of him that spake to me.

This was a direct report from Paul when he was in court


If you read act 22 verse 1 to 9 you will understand it very well that they want to persecute him that was the reason why he lie that those who are with him didn't hear the voice. But when he get back home he narrate different story to luke
IslamRe: Bilal The Blackman Was Never Set Free By Prophet Muhammad by Empiree: 3:44pm On Dec 09, 2020
true2god:
What did Allah say about Paul? Is it that Allah/Mohammed never knew Paul ever existed.
if Allāh did not mention companions of the prophet muhammad SAW by name, why do you think Paul was that important?. Qur'an already talked about disciples of Jesus being Muslims and righteous people and some amongst them were disbelievers and evil. Paul was not his disciple so he is irrelevant to us plus he changed religion of Jesus and his doctrines.
IslamRe: Bilal The Blackman Was Never Set Free By Prophet Muhammad by Empiree: 3:40pm On Dec 09, 2020
true2god:
This thread is all about Bilal, the black slave of mohammed. Let us stick to the topic.
op derailed his own thread. Anyways, this was already taken care of. Go back and read my posts (screenshots)
IslamRe: Hisbah Is Not Practising Sharia by Empiree: 5:47am On Dec 09, 2020
NeoWanZaeed:
Its a beautiful thing to have a policing unit that polices according to QURAN AND HADITH. Ofcourse what makes a muslim a muslim is practising islam according to the sunnah of prophet muhammad. The question now is that, IS HISBAH INLINE WITH QURAN AND HADITH? The answer is NO

IslamRe: Golden Age Of Apostasy Begins by Empiree: 4:03am On Dec 09, 2020
falopey:
There are different versions of Quran in different part of the world. Muslims in Nigeria may know just one type, but Muslims elsewhere are reading different Quran text. Don’t ask a Nigerian Muslim that question. See the different Quran evidences in that video above. Someone is showing some gullible Muslims live and one on one different type of Quran, they could not dispute that they are not Quran. But all you are saying is it’s hear say.

There are 26 different versions of Quran that is known.

Stop continuing in the lies Muslim leaders have been telling their gullible followers for 1400 years. Seek the truth.

Again here in one of your Muslim leaders admitting to the fact to his Muslim audience that some texts in Quran are different in different part of the world and again telling lies before Christian audience that Quran is one. Saying one thing here and again another elsewhere.


https://m.youtube.com/w....atch?v=Wa8uIxgJ8Rc
He already rectified his errors. So you are too late buddy
IslamRe: Bilal The Blackman Was Never Set Free By Prophet Muhammad by Empiree:
advocatejare:
And your false Prophet could not bring them back to life. Jesus resulted Lazarus his friend that had died for 3 days, he healed the sick and those with demon possession.
where did Jesus heal them?. Did he do it or God did it?. Jesus did not perform any miracle. Do you read your bible at all?. Here is what he said from his mouth


"Men of Israel, hear these words: Jesus of Nazareth, a man having been set forth by God to you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him in your the midst, as you yourselves know", Acts 2:22


So it is clear from the verse that it was God who performed the miracle not Jesus because Jesus could not do any miracle as recorded in John 5:30

"I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me."


Quran confirms the same thing that God performed miracles through Jesus or Jesus performed the miracle by God's permission which means without God's consent Jesus can not do anything as recorded in your Bible


"And [make him] a messenger to the Children of Israel, [who will say], 'Indeed I have come to you with a sign from your Lord in that I design for you from clay [that which is] like the form of a bird, then I breathe into it and it becomes a bird by permission of Allah. And I cure the blind and the leper, and I give life to the dead - by permission of Allah. And I inform you of what you eat and what you store in your houses. Indeed in that is a sign for you, if you are believers." Sura Al-Imran 49



But false Prophet Muhammad watched his friends die, he couldn't raise them, he watched his people fall sick, rather than heal them, he lied that dying from sickness would make them martyrs.
Stop deceiving yourself my friend. Jesus did not raise anybody from dead. Only two people raised from dead in the bible by God through Jesus. I already told you it is God that performed the miracle not Jesus. The rest of the people were not dead but asleep.

“The girl is not dead but asleep.” Matthew 9:24

“The child is not dead but asleep.” Mark 5:39

“She is not dead but asleep.” Luke 8:52



After tasting that poison which later got rid of him and confirmed the Jewess' suspicion that Muhammad was a false prophet, muhammad lived the rest of his life in agonies, just because of atenuje
i know it pains you that your god died on the cross a horrible death at the hands of his enemies. That was terrible. I can't imagine being nailed alive on the cross. No wonder he screamed for help but could not get one grin cheesy



Also, I'm happy that you confess some of the people the ate the poisoned food didn't also die immediately, muhammad lived a little while because he didn't swallow the meat.
I actually don't need compliment from you. The story says he lived 4 more year after eating the meat. So the poison story in itself gets k-leg. He continued to deliver his message years later. What you failed to understand is that, his time was already up on earth. He died at exactly when God wanted him to die and he knew this as he rightly said in his farewell pilgrimage. So food poison was really ineffective to begin with. But your Jesus died on th e cross and photographed and mocked till today everywhere around the world. Isn't that shameful?



First, Jesus is not my God, he's the son of the Most high God that defeated Satan your Lord at the cross of Calvary. He conquered death by resurrecting on the third day.
Another fairy tale. Resurrection my foot. Your Jesus is dead. Catholic has confirmed Jesus is dead and not coming back nor was he resurrected. He was conquered by his Jewish enemies. His death is a confirmation that all those christians who have died have perished according to your bible because their fate lied on resurrection of Jesus. Your Bible says,

"And if Christ has not been raised, our preaching is useless and so is your faith. More than that, we are then found to be false witnesses about God, for we have testified about God that he raised Christ from the dead. And if there is no resurrection of the dead, then Christ has not been raised. And if Christ has not been raised, your faith is futile; you are still in your sins. But he did not raise him if in fact the dead are not raised. In that case, all who have died believing in Christ are lost!" 1 Corinthians 15:14-18

This is a clear indication that gbogbo awon ti won ti sun ninu kristi ti segbeeeeeeeeee grin grin grin cheesy

As for whether he is your God or not, this is one major corrupt doctrine in christendom. Most of you believe Jesus is God. Some of you christians only believe he is son of God. Which one is the correct belief?. This is major doctrinal flaw in your religion and you got the nerve to point fingers at islam? christians will never be able to figure out true identity of Jesus till eternity bcus your Bible has created this confusion in your religion. Majority of christians believe Jesus is God. Very few amongst you don't.



Jesus prophesied his own death, he chose to die such death for us so that we could be saved. He demonstrated that he had power over death and that was why he raised up the dead and he also resurrected. Because he's the resurrection and the life
Oh i see grin cheesy that's why he was crying baami baami ki lo de to se ko mi si le grin cheesy grin grin (Matt. 27:46, KJV)



Second, for agreeing that Jesus Christ died and resurrected, that means you agree that Allah and Muhammad lied that Jesus was not crucified or died. I'm happy that you're getting insight now
kini nwi? oni woroworo grin cheesy


Muhammad died in agony and in his last words he cited that death had its agony.
Even if you ask a dementia patient which death he prefers btw dying of food poison in the hands of his wife or violently nailed on the cross, spit on and carry around, I am sure he would choose food poison. I know you feel very shameful for bringing this up now. This is what happens when you post rubbish without thinking. Your Jesus died a violent death on the cross, period. This is why till today Jews in Israel still mock his death. grin cheesy grin cheesy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xapPGi3HVV8
IslamRe: Bilal The Blackman Was Never Set Free By Prophet Muhammad by Empiree: 2:48am On Dec 09, 2020
Camelot65:
Lol, it's obvious you aren't intelligent and deceitful cheesy


where's the contradiction?? or you were drunk while reading the passages?

6 “Now get up and go into the city, and you will be told what you must do.”

7 The men traveling with Saul stood there speechless; they heard the sound but did not see anyone. 8 Saul got up from the ground, but when he opened his eyes he could see nothing. So they led him by the hand into Damascus.

8 “‘Who are you, Lord?’ I asked.

“ ‘I am Jesus of Nazareth, whom you are persecuting,’ he replied. 9 My companions saw the light, but they did not understand the voice of him who was speaking to me.

10 “‘What shall I do, Lord?’ I asked.

“ ‘Get up,’ the Lord said, ‘and go into Damascus. There you will be told all that you have been assigned to do.


You're really good at your lies , I posted the passages once again cheesy continue with your lies..... Naso you go dey run from pillar to post cheesy You go find am tire

You actually thought the Bible is like your confused Quran? the one that says something, forgets and says another thing in another verse....?

I have emboldened the line that's confusing you cheesy Oya come and show me the contradiction Em.piree cheesycheesy
Version you use is a NLT or the like which means the bible was re-translated to fit thier understanding after so much criticisms and condemnation, especially that of KJV

This is what King James Bible says


And they that were with me saw indeed the light, and were afraid; but they heard not the voice of him that spake to me.


The men with me saw the light, but did not hear the voice of the one who was speaking to me. Good News Translation


And those who were with me saw indeed the light and were afraid, but they heard not the voice of Him that spoke to me. KJ21


And they that were with me beheld indeed the light, but they heard not the voice of him that spake to me. ASV


My traveling companions saw the light, but they didn’t hear the voice of the one who spoke to me. CED

to name a few
Foreign AffairsRe: Teenager Who Beheaded French Teacher Gets Hero's Funeral, Street Named After Him by Empiree: 2:33am On Dec 09, 2020
Nigerians were killed by Nigerian police during EndSARS protest but you clowns are busy mourning a b!tch killed thousands of miles away in France. Black people have serious mental problems
goodheart02:
Emp.iree oya come and defend this act of heroism. Group of dumb head slammers
Fellow below has duly replied you. So count me out


compto.n11:
Bible said Jesus was among the head slammer and Bible has recorded lot of terrorism.

what are u going to say about this?
PoliticsRe: Religious Repression: US Adds Nigeria To List Of "Countries Of Concern" by Empiree:
goodheart02:
I know u won't like this news. But that's he truth hitting u right in the face because of you and your people in the north
you African kiriyo will never wake up from your slumber. Your religion is the very reason they keep africans enslaved and you clowns keep falling for it. You think they give a damn about you?.

What did they do to solve religious persecution in Gaza?
IslamRe: Bilal The Blackman Was Never Set Free By Prophet Muhammad by Empiree: 8:22pm On Dec 08, 2020
Don't you understand my post?. I was pointing out contradictions in your Bible.

Did paul and his people hear voice or not?. I didn't say they heard the voice. I said your Bible says they heard voice and at the same time, the same Acts of Apostle said they did not hear voice. This is evidently contradicted lie by Paul. Next time try to read, digest, understand before you reply.

And if you don't know what to say I can understand that because no Christian in Nigeria has been able to answer it. It has put lots of pastors to shame for years including Adeboye and Oyedepo. The funniest one was the guy in ilorin who called himself pastor Al-maruf was shamelessly defeated with this question in 1999. If you want I can look for his clip and post it here
Camelot65:
Emp.iree has really lost it cheesycheesy You'll keep getting confused.....because you're looking for something that's not there, Thanks for the verse you posted

Acts 9:6-8

6 “Now get up and go into the city, and you will be told what you must do.”

7 The men traveling with Saul stood there speechless; they heard the sound but did not see anyone. 8 Saul got up from the ground, but when he opened his eyes he could see nothing. So they led him by the hand into Damascus.


But you claimed just now that they didn't hear any voice??

Keep exposing your ignorance cheesycheesy

When a person isn't truthful, he/she would be looking for straws to hold on to just to prove a point and that's exactly what you're doing cheesy

You couldn't even answer my questions and still went to post passages you didn't read

who do you this thing? cheesy
IslamRe: Bilal The Blackman Was Never Set Free By Prophet Muhammad by Empiree: 8:13pm On Dec 08, 2020
Death is death. He ate the food according to the story but didn't die until years later. Some also ate from the food and passed out right away. Now, tell me exactly what your problem is with this?. Something must kill a man. At least he died without his body mutilated like your god that was violently murdered about his own creation "supposedly".

Which one was better?

Eat food poison and die peacefully in your room at the hands of your loved one

Or

Stripped nak3d, nailed on the cross, cried violently for help and died violent death?

Your choice

advocatejare:
Oya tell us how Muhammad died in the Quran,

Allah had told us that Muhammad will be seized and have his aorta cut and it happened but yoruba Muslim is trying to deny it.

It was confirmed that Muhammad fabricated some of the things he attributed to Allah in the Quran as Allah had Muhammad's aorta cut as he threatened :

Muhammed had his aorta cut to prove his fabrications

"And if Muhammad had made up about Us some [false] sayings,"
(QS. Al-Haaqqa 69: Verse 44)

"We would have seized him by the right hand;"
(QS. Al-Haaqqa 69: Verse 45)

"Then We would have cut from him the aorta."
(QS. Al-Haaqqa 69: Verse 46)

Like the Quran said, Mohammed had his aorta cut,
"Narrated 'Aisha: The Prophet in his ailment in which he died, used to say, "O 'Aisha! I still feel the pain caused by the food I ate at Khaibar, and at this time, I feel as if my aorta is being cut from that poison."
-Bukhari 5:59:713

"...He then said about the pain of which he died: I continued to feel pain from the morsel which I had eaten at Khaybar. This is the time when it has cut off my aorta."
- Sunan Abu Dawood 39:4495-4498
PoliticsRe: Religious Repression: US Adds Nigeria To List Of "Countries Of Concern" by Empiree: 6:56pm On Dec 08, 2020
NaMeAboki:
No thanks to Enemies of this country who would resort to de-marketing Nigeria's image within the international comity for their own personal gain.

They upload horrible images of isolated cases of damaged religious houses (churches) and dead victims (sometimes even foreign fake unrelated ones) to make it as though the problem is widespread and overwhelming; with which they use to appeal to foreign groups and organisations for financial donations and assistance in order to rebuild alleged damaged churches and to help the so called victims - only to divert such donations to their pockets while ensuring continuous flow of these monies with more of their fake/exaggerated stories.

With the exception of Boko Haram, no objective minded person can honestly say the ongoing farmer/herdsmen crisis, banditry and kidnappings are religiously motivated; and therefore conclude that these or any other constitute religious persecution (of Christians) in this country.
You make sense. Christians love to be portrayed the victims. Christian religion has been used as a tool to achieve their goals and many Nigerian Christians fall for it. Same thing china did in Kenya.

Chinese that have very low Christian percentage in china are promoting Christianity in Africa whilst chinese government siphon africa resources.

History is repeating itself.

They(British and French) gave africans bible and took their land. China is now doing the same thing by playing religious card and African Christians get emotional and sing praises of their lord Jesus while chinese rip them off of their resources.

IslamRe: Bilal The Blackman Was Never Set Free By Prophet Muhammad by Empiree: 4:47pm On Dec 08, 2020
advocatejare:
The same Quran claims to be a hadith. You can't know because you only cram


Quran 52:34
Let them produce a hadith like this if they are truthful.

Falya/too bihadeethin mithlihi in kanoo sadiqeena

فَلْيَأْتُوا بِحَدِيثٍ مِّثْلِهِ إِن كَانُوا صَادِقِين

In case you don't understand Arabic, this is the Arabic word حديثfor hadith as appear in that verse.

So your Quran is a mere hadith too
smh.... In this Quran context, Hadith means "speech". Just like saying anything including books, fairy tales or itan ijapa ati yanibo other than Qur'an.

But six Hadith collections such as bukhari, Muslim, ibn majah etc are collection of stories which falls in the category that Quran talks about in the Ayah you quoted. There are false stories in them and there are valid stories in them. Qur'an is the criteria that distinguishes false stories from real ones. The Qur'an you quoted shot you in the foot. It means those stories about angel strangling prophet etc are Hadith(speeches) that are in conflict with Qur'an. Hence, I rejected them.
PoliticsRe: Religious Repression: US Adds Nigeria To List Of "Countries Of Concern" by Empiree: 4:05pm On Dec 08, 2020
ChoCho54:
How many people have been beheaded in your community?
I guess you are being dishonest like your other fellow Christians. Only 1 or 2 Christians were sincere about it.

They (Christians) didn't need to behead before they are called terrorists. Their document was hate speech and terror manual under the constitution. And in case you don't know, Christianity was funded by western countries between 1989 to 2000 to end Islam. Hear directly from former pastor Mathew Oyewole who is now Muslim. And you guys are claiming "persecution"?. You guys must be out of your mind. Christianity was a disaster that befell Nigeria.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywkXoc2ai94
IslamRe: Bilal The Blackman Was Never Set Free By Prophet Muhammad by Empiree: 3:59pm On Dec 08, 2020
Camelot65:
You should instead goan read the Bible cheesy To think you're doing this confidently is funny



Formed a new religion? Please show me from the Bible where Paul claimed he formed christianity......

Who's a Christian cheesy

It's so amusing that of all the apostles who wrote letters ,it's only Paul that you have problems with

I should instead be questioning muhammad for creating a religion in the 7th century out of his own personal convictions, a religion that's not in line with other Abrahamaic religions.....

Answer those questions and I'll take you serious cheesy
we will keep dragging this forever. The question should be, where is your evidence that Jesus brought Christianity?.


I asked you who Paul is and you couldn't answer
Paul was not israelite. Paul was a lawyer and later travelled, learned about Jesus and deliberately changed his teachings as documented in your Bible (Hebrew 6:1).

He also lied in his act of apostle that he/companies heard God's voice Acts 9:7.

In another verse Acts 22:9 says that they heard no voice. The dude was a liar.
PoliticsRe: Religious Repression: US Adds Nigeria To List Of "Countries Of Concern" by Empiree: 2:52pm On Dec 08, 2020
Guy, please stop this rubbish and read the thread I posted for you. It is a very serious thing and we will take up the matter in the future. Our fathers in Islam did not take the matter up due to lack of their education but we will. You understand?. That manifesto was a clear violation of UN charter and Nigerian constitution. I don't know why Abacha overlooked such horrific document. It is clear to me that you have partially read it and you know it was wrong but your hypocrisy won't let you admit their wrong.

Christians have always felt insecure about their religion. They can not do without tarshish Islam. This is another example below
ChoCho54:
You are just being emotional. You need to calm down.

How many people in your locality have been bombed or beheaded because they insulted Christ?

Now can you tell me how many people have been bombed or beheaded in your area because they insulted Mohammed?

You may widen the scope of your research to the world stage.

Stop posting propaganda engineered by blood thirsty islamist to justify bloodshed.

IslamRe: Bilal The Blackman Was Never Set Free By Prophet Muhammad by Empiree: 2:46pm On Dec 08, 2020
advocatejare:
So where in the Quran are you commanded to pray(salat) 5 times daily? The names of the prayer and the time to observe them?

Where in the Quran are you told the number of rakah for each prayer ?


Where in the Quran are you told how to perform ablution like you Muslims do it today?

And so on,


All the above are only found in the other ahadith you can't find them in the Quran, which is also a hadith
You failed to understand religious obligatory practices from history or story. Qur'an has commanded daily salat and times. Qur'an has hinted obligatory part of wudhu(ablution) which is also found in your Bible. Hadith of the prophet shows us how prophet muhammad SAW performed these activities. It is not complicated at all. So your attempt to create confusion is a complete failure. Qur'an already told us about the incident that took place between the prophet muhammad SAW and Jubril (as) in Sura 96 from verse 1, Sura 74 from verse 1. So we don't need itan ijapa ati yanibo to spice it up. Such stories are usually israiliya to taint Islamic history.


Muhammad was not alive to verify the Quran, the Quran was compiled during the reign of Uthman, about 20 years after Muhammad had died and Uthman and Zaid the chief editor destroyed the original manuscripts after they had edited the Quran and helped Allah to 'perfect' it, as Allah did a poor job that only humans could prefect for him.
even David Wood that you relied on wouldn't say this. Qur'an was written down and verified by the prophet himself in the last part of his blessed life. In other Islamic school of law or exegesis, Qur'an was compiled in book form in the lifetime of the prophet muhammad SAW.

So Muhammad never verified the Quran you have today, and there is no original Quran because it was burnt/destroyed by Uthman
story. It is very simple. Bring out Qur'an in the time of the prophet that is different from the one we have now if you are truthful?



Just like their were additions and subtractions to the Quran by Uthman and the editor-in-chief of the Quran, Zaid
seems to me that they taught you guys to much fairy tales in your Bible class
PoliticsRe: Religious Repression: US Adds Nigeria To List Of "Countries Of Concern" by Empiree: 12:21pm On Dec 08, 2020
ChoCho54:
So you expected CAN to keep quiet? BTW, where's your proof? Which book? Quoran maybe.
@bold is what I expected and you didn't disappoint.

Here, click the link below and make sure you read everything including link (s) in the thread

https://www.nairaland.com/5737607/christian-association-nigeria-violation-religious


Now to respond to your statement, "So you expected CAN to keep quiet?", their manifesto was written in 1994. So who persecuted them in 1994 for them to have written threatening messages and calling for death of Muslim leaders?.

Not only this. In 1945 Christians in Nigeria had the gut to print their own version of Qur'an and printed image on it describing prophet muhammad. You guys have been very intolerant for a very long time but muslims did nothing. And not your are screaming "persecution". Below is the cover of their fake Qur'an in 1945.

PoliticsRe: Religious Repression: US Adds Nigeria To List Of "Countries Of Concern" by Empiree: 4:33am On Dec 08, 2020
BeLookingIDIOT:
Apart from Shi'as,how have Nigeria officially persecuted xtians for their faith undecided
I am just wondering too. How is Christianity persecuted in Nigeria when CAN a k a christian association of Nigeria published a manifesto declaring open hatred on Islam and Muslims. How's this persecution of christians when they had the gut and freedom to publish a book and called for death and destruction of Islam. Definitely the list is a joke.
IslamRe: Golden Age Of Apostasy Begins by Empiree: 3:06am On Dec 08, 2020
^^^^

Story... We already discussed this on this platform. I am definitely not going back to this. You can say whatever you want. If you have Quran that is different from what we have kindly bring it forward. We don't want to just read hearsays on the internet.

Bring forward different Qur'an and let's see. That's all. This is my standing challenge since 2015 to Christians but they have been unable to provide one.
IslamRe: Bilal The Blackman Was Never Set Free By Prophet Muhammad by Empiree: 3:01am On Dec 08, 2020
It is not a about quoting aHadith that suit me. It is about Hadith that is in harmony with Qur'an. It is obvious you can not refute those verses of Qur'an
advocatejare:
Those two verses confirm that Islam is just contradictions.

Those that lived and walked with Muhammad narrated his lifestyle to us and you Muslims confirm it to be authentic and you're always running to quote from same hadith anytime it suits your arguement, and you also quote from the same hadith to tell us that Muhammad said he left Quran and his sunnah for you Muslims, but now that we are exposing how the same hadith narrated how Muhammad died of atenuje, how he traded humans like commodities and how he said you should hate Christians and Jews you are now doing Taqiyya and denying your authentic hadith. You can only fool yourself.

Or maybe you're telling us that the Quran is a book of lies.
If not, how come Allah said he would protect Muhammad from mankind and the same Muhammad was poisoned by a woman, the same Muhammad had his tooth broken in battle, the same Muhammad was bewitched and was insane and started hallucinating about having sex when he didn't, the same Muhammad had his aorta cut and he shouted in agony, he dragged his foot even when held by two men, he had high fever and lapsed into unconsciousness, he attempted suicide many times and the liar Empir.ee and his book of lies called Quran is telling us that Muhammad was protected from mankind.

You can only fool yourself and those that cant use their brains.
what you failed to understand is that Qur'an is revelation and verified by God and nabi Muhammad himself. But story about poison or he was grabbed by angels are itan ijapa ati yanibo. Prophet muhammad SAW himself did not verify it the same way he verified Qur'an before he left the surface of the earth.

These are stories. In stories, there can be addition and subtraction for personal purposes.
IslamRe: Bilal The Blackman Was Never Set Free By Prophet Muhammad by Empiree: 12:56am On Dec 08, 2020
What is Hadith?. Let's see if you have sense of y what you are saying.



advocatejare:
The same Quran claims to be a hadith. You can't know because you only cram


Quran 52:34
Let them produce a hadith like this if they are truthful.

Falya/too bihadeethin mithlihi in kanoo sadiqeena

فَلْيَأْتُوا بِحَدِيثٍ مِّثْلِهِ إِن كَانُوا صَادِقِين

In case you don't understand Arabic, this is the Arabic word حديثfor hadith as appear in that verse.

So your Quran is a mere hadith too
IslamRe: Bilal The Blackman Was Never Set Free By Prophet Muhammad by Empiree: 9:47pm On Dec 07, 2020
Camelot65:
Cover up for something that isn't even there, you need help if you think all those verses show Paul to be a liar..... I'm not surprised, anything is possible for una, understanding even hard for una....cheesy


You're yet to answer my questions, answer them and I'll take you serious
what question?. That what did Paul do to us?. I have no problem with Paul. His problems are with God for deceiving Christians and created a new religion. He changed teachings and doctrines of Jesus and replaced with his. Go and read your Bible carefully
IslamRe: Bilal The Blackman Was Never Set Free By Prophet Muhammad by Empiree: 9:41pm On Dec 07, 2020
I am kinda reluctant to reply you because no amount of other convincing evidence will change your mind because you are on a mission. Whether you listen or more Qur'an is the only superior argument. Qur'an is superior over the Hadith and here is what it says


"O Messenger (Muhammad SAW)! Proclaim (the Message) which has been sent down to you from your Lord. And if you do not, then you have not conveyed His Message. Allah will protect you from mankind. Verily, Allah guides not the people who disbelieve." 5:67


Another one


"We have not sent down the Quran unto you (O Muhammad SAW) to cause you distress," Sura Tãha


O ya, start grumbling again


These two verses rebuked you. It doesn't matter whether they are in sahih bukhari or not. Qur'an sits in judgement over any narrations. I notice you don't quote Qur'an. Qur'an is the revelation not Hadith


advocatejare:
Why do you follow a demon-possessed man?

Sahih Muslim 2814:
Abdullah b. Mas'ud reported that Allah's Messenger ( ﷺ ) said:
There is none amongst you with whom is not an attache from amongst the jinn (devil). They (the Companions) said: Allah's Messenger, with you too? Thereupon he said: Yes, but Allah helps me against him and so I am safe from his hand and he does not command me but for good.[/b]


Only jinn torment their host like Muhammad was pinned down and suffocated thrice in the cave of Hira:

"...The Prophet added, "The angel caught me (forcefully) and pressed me so hard that I could not bear it any more. He then released me and again asked me to read and I replied, 'I do not know how to read.' Thereupon he caught me again and pressed me a second time till I could not bear it any more. He then released me and again asked me to read but again I replied, 'I do not know how to read (or what shall I read)?' Thereupon he caught me for the third time and pressed me,..."
-Sahih Bukhari 1:1:3

Also, anytime Muhammad received the so called revelation from the jinn, he used to bear it with trouble move his tongue like someone convulsing. Only a demonic possession manifests as that.

Narrated By Said bin Jubair
Ibn 'Abbas in the explanation of the Statement of Allah. 'Move not your tongue concerning (the Qur'an) to make haste therewith." (75.16) Said "Allah's Apostle used to bear the revelation with great trouble and used to move his lips (quickly) with the Inspiration." Ibn 'Abbas moved his lips saying, "I am moving my lips in front of you as Allah's Apostle used to move his."
-Sahih Bukhari 1:1:4

PROOF THAT MUHAMMAD WAS POSSESSED OF A DEMON:
In the Holy Scriptures one of the main things the demons do is physically throw people to the ground. For example in Luke 9:42 a man brings his demon possessed boy to Jesus to be healed and we read:

"While he was coming, the demon threw him to the ground and convulsed him. But Jesus rebuked the unclean spirit and healed the boy, and gave him back to his father." Luke 9:42

Muhammad also snorted like a camel and wanted to commit suicide by jumping off a mountain because the demonic torment was much.

"...Would that I see revelation coming to the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ). He (Hadrat 'Umar) said: Would it please you to see the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) receiving the revelations 'Umar lifted a corner of the cloth and I looked at him and he was emitting a sound of snorting. He (the narrator) said: I thought it was the sound of a camel..."
-Sahih Muslim Book 7, Hadith 2654


"Prophet (peace be upon him) became so sad as we have heard(come to know) that he intended several times to throw himself from the tops of high mountains and every time he went up the top of a mountain in order to throw himself down..."
Sahih Bukhari 9:87:111
IslamRe: Bilal The Blackman Was Never Set Free By Prophet Muhammad by Empiree: 8:27pm On Dec 07, 2020
Go and and read my posts very well again. Don't cover up for Mr. Paul.. Paul was chameleon.
Camelot65:
Where's the lie? you think the Bible is like your Quran?

Acts 23:6-8


Then Paul, knowing that some of them were Sadducees and the others Pharisees, called out in the Sanhedrin, “My brothers, I am a Pharisee,descended from Pharisees. I stand on trial because of the hope of the resurrection of the dead.” 7 When he said this, a dispute broke out between the Pharisees and the Sadducees, and the assembly was divided.8 (The Sadducees say that there is no resurrection,and that there are neither angels nor spirits, but the Pharisees believe all these things.)

Gosh, these guys can do anything to daint Paul cheesycheesy

Wetin Paul do una, the same Paul that was better than your muhammed?
IslamRe: Bilal The Blackman Was Never Set Free By Prophet Muhammad by Empiree: 6:12pm On Dec 07, 2020
advocatejare:
Jesus is the perfect example the Christians,
if he was, why do you follow Paul, a liar?. Christians follow Paul and his teachings not Jesus.

IslamRe: Bilal The Blackman Was Never Set Free By Prophet Muhammad by Empiree: 5:51pm On Dec 07, 2020
advocatejare:
You're the one that will kill yourself like Muhammad who died of poison from atenuje because he didn't have self control.

Atenuje lopa Muhammad
I'm not gonna go back to back arguments. I have presented valid points in those screenshots with proofs but I fe da si agidi
IslamRe: Bilal The Blackman Was Never Set Free By Prophet Muhammad by Empiree:
advocatejare:
Jesus is the perfect example the Christians, he didn't own slaves or traded slaves.

Muhammad is the perfect example for Muslims, and he traded slaves and owned slaves
slave trades existed during Jewish reign right?.

slave trades existed before and during Jesus, right?

Slave trades existed before Muhammad right?

So if slavery existed before Muhammad, how come your Bible writers skipped slave trading history in connection with Jesus and then slavery appeared again in the time of the prophet muhammad?.

Who was fooling who?. Why are Christian historians being untruthful for skipping slave trades record in the time of Jesus yet, they documented slavery in the Bible?.

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