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Yusuf Adepoju (ACADIP) Tackles Pastor Femi William- Cautions Him Against Blasphemous Utterances. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsePMZB8bIo |
aycorporat:It is not about "It will never be well with your killers". This is homicide and serious investigation should commence immediately. Nigeria and African environment do not carry out forensic investigation. It is either politicians are behind this or same poor people that are blaming Buhari for everything that gone wrong in the country. Police need to do the needful and not allow criminals to go free. Police don't need permission from politicians to investigate crimes. Africa has a long way to go |
advocatejare:trust me, I will never argue with you about these words because you are simply just being foolish. I will allow your fellow Christians reply you
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advocatejare:Allah is God. God is Allah. Why is this difficult for you?. Are you saying that God that used Jesus to perform miracle could not use Muhammad to perform miracle?. Anyways, that's by the way. You have admitted Jesus did not perform the miracles but Allah did it through him. So Jesus did not perform any miracles contrary to Christian propaganda. Case closed God did miracles by Jesus.this is subjective. There are people that disputed this narration. But that's not the issue here. The issue here is that Jesus being the judge. Let's go to your Bible to prove that Jesus can not pass independent judgement without God's permission. He judges based on directives from God. Jesus said in John 5:30 "By myself I can do nothing; I judge only as I hear, and my judgment is just, for I seek not to please myself but him who sent me. You judge me by human standards, but I do not judge anyone. John 8:15 "The heavens declare his righteousness, for God himself is judge" Psalm 50:6 "But it is God alone who executes judgment...," Psalm 75:7 These are just a few. This show that Jesus is not the judge. In the Hadith you referred to, it is talking in the sense of worldly court (judgement) like judicial system of govt not Divine judgement. Have you asked yourself why Allah didn't find muhammad worthy of giving him permission to perform any miracles?God gave His messagers miracles to the people they were sent based on their beliefs. People at the time believed in miracles. So in order to convince them, God gave those prophets and messagers miracles to convince them. The same was given to Moses. He performed miracles too. Miracle of prophet muhammad SAW is Qur'an. As you can see it is still valid today untampered with. You just confirmed it that Jesus raised the dead.You are kidding right?. Did I not prove to you that he didn't perform miracles?. I told you that it was God who performed those miracles to honor Jesus. Jesus performed nothing. I'm not pained, I'm proud to say that Jesus died on the cross for me, and I can proudly say it. Just as all Christians but can you Muslims be proud to say that Muhammad died of poison and he eventually died during sex on the top of Aisha, the most filthy death anyone can diefirst all, you admmited Jesus died at the hands of his enemies. And you quietly admmited that he did not raise from dead as your Bible clearly stated. I already gave you reference. Your salvation relies heavily on resurrection of jesus. And your Bible says that Jesus did not resurrect. Therefore, those Christians who died believing that they are sleeping in the Lord have perished. I didn't say this. It is your Bible that said this. So all generations of christians are going to hellfire and you too if you don't leave Christianity. Hell awaits you. Christianity is false religion of Paul, the liar. You also claimed Jesus died for your sin. This is another false tale. It is itan ijapa ati yanibo cooked up by Mr. Paul. Jesus did not die for anybody. Your Bible said so. Ezekiel 18:1-4 Then another message came to me from the lord: Why do you quote this proverb concerning the land of Israel: ‘The parents have eaten sour grapes, but their children’s mouths pucker at the taste’? As surely as I live, says the Sovereign lord, you will not quote this proverb anymore in Israel. For all people are mine to judge—both parents and children alike. And this is my rule: The person who sins is the one who will die. Teaching of Jesus for forgiveness of sins is you pray to God for forgiveness not by believing Jesus died for you. This is Pauline doctrine. Paul changed so many teachings of Jesus Mathew 6: 1-14 https://thechurchoftruth.org/jesus-did-not-die-for-your-sins/ Atonement and blood of Jesus are paul's false teachings. I treated this topic on this platform 5 years ago. Lastly, you said prophet muhammad SAW died during sex on his wife. Where is your evidence of this allegation?. Second, if he died on his wife, she was his wife not agbere (adultery). So there is nothing wrong dying on your wife during sex. As you can see, let's assume that's true. This is another proof that prophet muhammad SAW died in enjoyment and enjoyed himself while your Jesus died a painful, violent death in public. As you can see from the mockery video of a Jewish girl, your Jesus died a mockery painful death. You see how Jewish lady mocked him yet you kiriyo love Jews unconditionally but they don't love you. They make mockery of your god or son of God. Qur'an confirms this "And because of their saying (in boast), "We killed Messiah 'Iesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary), the Messenger of Allah," - but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but the resemblance of 'Iesa (Jesus) was put over another man (and they killed that man), and those who differ therein are full of doubts. They have no (certain) knowledge, they follow nothing but conjecture. For surely; they killed him not [i.e. 'Iesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary) ]:" Q4:157 Now watch this 1 min Jewish video boosting that they killed Jesus and they are proud of it. Be sure you watch it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lY6DQt2aGI0 And in case you skip the video I will help you type it out. This Jewish boy said: "We killed Jesus and we proud of it." "You and your fuvking Jesus" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IoCZO98CEs |
Camelot65:Acts 9:3-7 King James Version 3 And as he journeyed, he came near Damascus: and suddenly there shined round about him a light from heaven: 4 And he fell to the earth, and heard a voice saying unto him, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me? 5 And he said, Who art thou, Lord? And the Lord said, I am Jesus whom thou persecutest: it is hard for thee to kick against the pricks. 6 And he trembling and astonished said, Lord, what wilt thou have me to do? And the Lord said unto him, Arise, and go into the city, and it shall be told thee what thou must do. 7 And the men which journeyed with him stood speechless, hearing a voice, but seeing no man. This a reported speech from Paul to luke Acts 22:6-9 King James Version 6 And it came to pass, that, as I made my journey, and was come nigh unto Damascus about noon, suddenly there shone from heaven a great light round about me. 7 And I fell unto the ground, and heard a voice saying unto me, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me? 8 And I answered, Who art thou, Lord? And he said unto me, I am Jesus of Nazareth, whom thou persecutest. 9 And they that were with me saw indeed the light, and were afraid; but they heard not the voice of him that spake to me. This was a direct report from Paul when he was in court If you read act 22 verse 1 to 9 you will understand it very well that they want to persecute him that was the reason why he lie that those who are with him didn't hear the voice. But when he get back home he narrate different story to luke |
true2god:if Allāh did not mention companions of the prophet muhammad SAW by name, why do you think Paul was that important?. Qur'an already talked about disciples of Jesus being Muslims and righteous people and some amongst them were disbelievers and evil. Paul was not his disciple so he is irrelevant to us plus he changed religion of Jesus and his doctrines. |
true2god:op derailed his own thread. Anyways, this was already taken care of. Go back and read my posts (screenshots) |
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falopey:He already rectified his errors. So you are too late buddy |
advocatejare:where did Jesus heal them?. Did he do it or God did it?. Jesus did not perform any miracle. Do you read your bible at all?. Here is what he said from his mouth "Men of Israel, hear these words: Jesus of Nazareth, a man having been set forth by God to you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him in your the midst, as you yourselves know", Acts 2:22 So it is clear from the verse that it was God who performed the miracle not Jesus because Jesus could not do any miracle as recorded in John 5:30 "I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me." Quran confirms the same thing that God performed miracles through Jesus or Jesus performed the miracle by God's permission which means without God's consent Jesus can not do anything as recorded in your Bible "And [make him] a messenger to the Children of Israel, [who will say], 'Indeed I have come to you with a sign from your Lord in that I design for you from clay [that which is] like the form of a bird, then I breathe into it and it becomes a bird by permission of Allah. And I cure the blind and the leper, and I give life to the dead - by permission of Allah. And I inform you of what you eat and what you store in your houses. Indeed in that is a sign for you, if you are believers." Sura Al-Imran 49 But false Prophet Muhammad watched his friends die, he couldn't raise them, he watched his people fall sick, rather than heal them, he lied that dying from sickness would make them martyrs.Stop deceiving yourself my friend. Jesus did not raise anybody from dead. Only two people raised from dead in the bible by God through Jesus. I already told you it is God that performed the miracle not Jesus. The rest of the people were not dead but asleep. “The girl is not dead but asleep.” Matthew 9:24 “The child is not dead but asleep.” Mark 5:39 “She is not dead but asleep.” Luke 8:52 After tasting that poison which later got rid of him and confirmed the Jewess' suspicion that Muhammad was a false prophet, muhammad lived the rest of his life in agonies, just because of atenujei know it pains you that your god died on the cross a horrible death at the hands of his enemies. That was terrible. I can't imagine being nailed alive on the cross. No wonder he screamed for help but could not get one Also, I'm happy that you confess some of the people the ate the poisoned food didn't also die immediately, muhammad lived a little while because he didn't swallow the meat.I actually don't need compliment from you. The story says he lived 4 more year after eating the meat. So the poison story in itself gets k-leg. He continued to deliver his message years later. What you failed to understand is that, his time was already up on earth. He died at exactly when God wanted him to die and he knew this as he rightly said in his farewell pilgrimage. So food poison was really ineffective to begin with. But your Jesus died on th e cross and photographed and mocked till today everywhere around the world. Isn't that shameful? First, Jesus is not my God, he's the son of the Most high God that defeated Satan your Lord at the cross of Calvary. He conquered death by resurrecting on the third day.Another fairy tale. Resurrection my foot. Your Jesus is dead. Catholic has confirmed Jesus is dead and not coming back nor was he resurrected. He was conquered by his Jewish enemies. His death is a confirmation that all those christians who have died have perished according to your bible because their fate lied on resurrection of Jesus. Your Bible says, "And if Christ has not been raised, our preaching is useless and so is your faith. More than that, we are then found to be false witnesses about God, for we have testified about God that he raised Christ from the dead. And if there is no resurrection of the dead, then Christ has not been raised. And if Christ has not been raised, your faith is futile; you are still in your sins. But he did not raise him if in fact the dead are not raised. In that case, all who have died believing in Christ are lost!" 1 Corinthians 15:14-18 This is a clear indication that gbogbo awon ti won ti sun ninu kristi ti segbeeeeeeeeee As for whether he is your God or not, this is one major corrupt doctrine in christendom. Most of you believe Jesus is God. Some of you christians only believe he is son of God. Which one is the correct belief?. This is major doctrinal flaw in your religion and you got the nerve to point fingers at islam? christians will never be able to figure out true identity of Jesus till eternity bcus your Bible has created this confusion in your religion. Majority of christians believe Jesus is God. Very few amongst you don't. Jesus prophesied his own death, he chose to die such death for us so that we could be saved. He demonstrated that he had power over death and that was why he raised up the dead and he also resurrected. Because he's the resurrection and the lifeOh i see that's why he was crying baami baami ki lo de to se ko mi si le (Matt. 27:46, KJV)Second, for agreeing that Jesus Christ died and resurrected, that means you agree that Allah and Muhammad lied that Jesus was not crucified or died. I'm happy that you're getting insight nowkini nwi? oni woroworo ![]() Muhammad died in agony and in his last words he cited that death had its agony.Even if you ask a dementia patient which death he prefers btw dying of food poison in the hands of his wife or violently nailed on the cross, spit on and carry around, I am sure he would choose food poison. I know you feel very shameful for bringing this up now. This is what happens when you post rubbish without thinking. Your Jesus died a violent death on the cross, period. This is why till today Jews in Israel still mock his death. ![]() https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xapPGi3HVV8 |
Camelot65:Version you use is a NLT or the like which means the bible was re-translated to fit thier understanding after so much criticisms and condemnation, especially that of KJV This is what King James Bible says And they that were with me saw indeed the light, and were afraid; but they heard not the voice of him that spake to me. The men with me saw the light, but did not hear the voice of the one who was speaking to me. Good News Translation And those who were with me saw indeed the light and were afraid, but they heard not the voice of Him that spoke to me. KJ21 And they that were with me beheld indeed the light, but they heard not the voice of him that spake to me. ASV My traveling companions saw the light, but they didn’t hear the voice of the one who spoke to me. CED to name a few |
Nigerians were killed by Nigerian police during EndSARS protest but you clowns are busy mourning a b!tch killed thousands of miles away in France. Black people have serious mental problems goodheart02:Fellow below has duly replied you. So count me out compto.n11: |
goodheart02:you African kiriyo will never wake up from your slumber. Your religion is the very reason they keep africans enslaved and you clowns keep falling for it. You think they give a damn about you?. What did they do to solve religious persecution in Gaza? |
Don't you understand my post?. I was pointing out contradictions in your Bible. Did paul and his people hear voice or not?. I didn't say they heard the voice. I said your Bible says they heard voice and at the same time, the same Acts of Apostle said they did not hear voice. This is evidently contradicted lie by Paul. Next time try to read, digest, understand before you reply. And if you don't know what to say I can understand that because no Christian in Nigeria has been able to answer it. It has put lots of pastors to shame for years including Adeboye and Oyedepo. The funniest one was the guy in ilorin who called himself pastor Al-maruf was shamelessly defeated with this question in 1999. If you want I can look for his clip and post it here Camelot65: |
Death is death. He ate the food according to the story but didn't die until years later. Some also ate from the food and passed out right away. Now, tell me exactly what your problem is with this?. Something must kill a man. At least he died without his body mutilated like your god that was violently murdered about his own creation "supposedly". Which one was better? Eat food poison and die peacefully in your room at the hands of your loved one Or Stripped nak3d, nailed on the cross, cried violently for help and died violent death? Your choice advocatejare: |
NaMeAboki:You make sense. Christians love to be portrayed the victims. Christian religion has been used as a tool to achieve their goals and many Nigerian Christians fall for it. Same thing china did in Kenya. Chinese that have very low Christian percentage in china are promoting Christianity in Africa whilst chinese government siphon africa resources. History is repeating itself. They(British and French) gave africans bible and took their land. China is now doing the same thing by playing religious card and African Christians get emotional and sing praises of their lord Jesus while chinese rip them off of their resources.
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advocatejare:smh.... In this Quran context, Hadith means "speech". Just like saying anything including books, fairy tales or itan ijapa ati yanibo other than Qur'an. But six Hadith collections such as bukhari, Muslim, ibn majah etc are collection of stories which falls in the category that Quran talks about in the Ayah you quoted. There are false stories in them and there are valid stories in them. Qur'an is the criteria that distinguishes false stories from real ones. The Qur'an you quoted shot you in the foot. It means those stories about angel strangling prophet etc are Hadith(speeches) that are in conflict with Qur'an. Hence, I rejected them. |
ChoCho54:I guess you are being dishonest like your other fellow Christians. Only 1 or 2 Christians were sincere about it. They (Christians) didn't need to behead before they are called terrorists. Their document was hate speech and terror manual under the constitution. And in case you don't know, Christianity was funded by western countries between 1989 to 2000 to end Islam. Hear directly from former pastor Mathew Oyewole who is now Muslim. And you guys are claiming "persecution"?. You guys must be out of your mind. Christianity was a disaster that befell Nigeria. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywkXoc2ai94 |
Camelot65:we will keep dragging this forever. The question should be, where is your evidence that Jesus brought Christianity?. I asked you who Paul is and you couldn't answerPaul was not israelite. Paul was a lawyer and later travelled, learned about Jesus and deliberately changed his teachings as documented in your Bible (Hebrew 6:1). He also lied in his act of apostle that he/companies heard God's voice Acts 9:7. In another verse Acts 22:9 says that they heard no voice. The dude was a liar. |
Guy, please stop this rubbish and read the thread I posted for you. It is a very serious thing and we will take up the matter in the future. Our fathers in Islam did not take the matter up due to lack of their education but we will. You understand?. That manifesto was a clear violation of UN charter and Nigerian constitution. I don't know why Abacha overlooked such horrific document. It is clear to me that you have partially read it and you know it was wrong but your hypocrisy won't let you admit their wrong. Christians have always felt insecure about their religion. They can not do without tarshish Islam. This is another example below ChoCho54:
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advocatejare:You failed to understand religious obligatory practices from history or story. Qur'an has commanded daily salat and times. Qur'an has hinted obligatory part of wudhu(ablution) which is also found in your Bible. Hadith of the prophet shows us how prophet muhammad SAW performed these activities. It is not complicated at all. So your attempt to create confusion is a complete failure. Qur'an already told us about the incident that took place between the prophet muhammad SAW and Jubril (as) in Sura 96 from verse 1, Sura 74 from verse 1. So we don't need itan ijapa ati yanibo to spice it up. Such stories are usually israiliya to taint Islamic history. Muhammad was not alive to verify the Quran, the Quran was compiled during the reign of Uthman, about 20 years after Muhammad had died and Uthman and Zaid the chief editor destroyed the original manuscripts after they had edited the Quran and helped Allah to 'perfect' it, as Allah did a poor job that only humans could prefect for him.even David Wood that you relied on wouldn't say this. Qur'an was written down and verified by the prophet himself in the last part of his blessed life. In other Islamic school of law or exegesis, Qur'an was compiled in book form in the lifetime of the prophet muhammad SAW. So Muhammad never verified the Quran you have today, and there is no original Quran because it was burnt/destroyed by Uthmanstory. It is very simple. Bring out Qur'an in the time of the prophet that is different from the one we have now if you are truthful? Just like their were additions and subtractions to the Quran by Uthman and the editor-in-chief of the Quran, Zaidseems to me that they taught you guys to much fairy tales in your Bible class |
ChoCho54:@bold is what I expected and you didn't disappoint. Here, click the link below and make sure you read everything including link (s) in the thread https://www.nairaland.com/5737607/christian-association-nigeria-violation-religious Now to respond to your statement, "So you expected CAN to keep quiet?", their manifesto was written in 1994. So who persecuted them in 1994 for them to have written threatening messages and calling for death of Muslim leaders?. Not only this. In 1945 Christians in Nigeria had the gut to print their own version of Qur'an and printed image on it describing prophet muhammad. You guys have been very intolerant for a very long time but muslims did nothing. And not your are screaming "persecution". Below is the cover of their fake Qur'an in 1945.
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BeLookingIDIOT:I am just wondering too. How is Christianity persecuted in Nigeria when CAN a k a christian association of Nigeria published a manifesto declaring open hatred on Islam and Muslims. How's this persecution of christians when they had the gut and freedom to publish a book and called for death and destruction of Islam. Definitely the list is a joke. |
^^^^ Story... We already discussed this on this platform. I am definitely not going back to this. You can say whatever you want. If you have Quran that is different from what we have kindly bring it forward. We don't want to just read hearsays on the internet. Bring forward different Qur'an and let's see. That's all. This is my standing challenge since 2015 to Christians but they have been unable to provide one. |
It is not a about quoting aHadith that suit me. It is about Hadith that is in harmony with Qur'an. It is obvious you can not refute those verses of Qur'an advocatejare: If not, how come Allah said he would protect Muhammad from mankind and the same Muhammad was poisoned by a woman, the same Muhammad had his tooth broken in battle, the same Muhammad was bewitched and was insane and started hallucinating about having sex when he didn't, the same Muhammad had his aorta cut and he shouted in agony, he dragged his foot even when held by two men, he had high fever and lapsed into unconsciousness, he attempted suicide many times and the liar Empir.ee and his book of lies called Quran is telling us that Muhammad was protected from mankind.what you failed to understand is that Qur'an is revelation and verified by God and nabi Muhammad himself. But story about poison or he was grabbed by angels are itan ijapa ati yanibo. Prophet muhammad SAW himself did not verify it the same way he verified Qur'an before he left the surface of the earth. These are stories. In stories, there can be addition and subtraction for personal purposes. |
What is Hadith?. Let's see if you have sense of y what you are saying. advocatejare: |
Camelot65:what question?. That what did Paul do to us?. I have no problem with Paul. His problems are with God for deceiving Christians and created a new religion. He changed teachings and doctrines of Jesus and replaced with his. Go and read your Bible carefully |
I am kinda reluctant to reply you because no amount of other convincing evidence will change your mind because you are on a mission. Whether you listen or more Qur'an is the only superior argument. Qur'an is superior over the Hadith and here is what it says "O Messenger (Muhammad SAW)! Proclaim (the Message) which has been sent down to you from your Lord. And if you do not, then you have not conveyed His Message. Allah will protect you from mankind. Verily, Allah guides not the people who disbelieve." 5:67 Another one "We have not sent down the Quran unto you (O Muhammad SAW) to cause you distress," Sura Tãha O ya, start grumbling again These two verses rebuked you. It doesn't matter whether they are in sahih bukhari or not. Qur'an sits in judgement over any narrations. I notice you don't quote Qur'an. Qur'an is the revelation not Hadith advocatejare: |
Go and and read my posts very well again. Don't cover up for Mr. Paul.. Paul was chameleon. Camelot65: |
advocatejare:if he was, why do you follow Paul, a liar?. Christians follow Paul and his teachings not Jesus.
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advocatejare:I'm not gonna go back to back arguments. I have presented valid points in those screenshots with proofs but I fe da si agidi |
advocatejare:slave trades existed during Jewish reign right?. slave trades existed before and during Jesus, right? Slave trades existed before Muhammad right? So if slavery existed before Muhammad, how come your Bible writers skipped slave trading history in connection with Jesus and then slavery appeared again in the time of the prophet muhammad?. Who was fooling who?. Why are Christian historians being untruthful for skipping slave trades record in the time of Jesus yet, they documented slavery in the Bible?. |
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There's nothing contradictory in those verses, it's only your lack of understanding that caused it , the funniest thing is the more you keep digging, the more you expose your ignorance.....First you claimed Paul isn't a Jew, I shouldn't have taken you serious in the first place
