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Pecuman:
Link the manifesto to me then.

You commented on the thread already. That means you didnt read from the beginning. Here it is
https://www.nairaland.com/5737607/christian-association-nigeria-violation-religious

And please take your time to read it and please click on the link(s) in the thread to other NL thread for more info

solution is "rule of law". Religious hatred and religious bigotry must be subject prison term. Now I believe you read in full or in part Christian manifesto. That's definition of religious hatred and bigotry. Funny enough you said "Churches generally don't teach open hatred,". It seems you live on different planet. Many open hatred that we muslims can point to. How about recent message of Rev. Godfrey Igwebuike preaching hate on the alter?. You missed that?. This is what led to recent killings of Igbo muslims in Igboland in Nsukka.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gu3HZFQaISM

Pecuman:
You know I hear similar things from Christians sometimes when they describe Muslims, at least I know it is mutual dislike.

But fret not, Churches generally don't teach open hatred, even for those they consider abdominable sinners like the Homosexuals.

However, I do find more consistency in the Christians that consider Muslims hateful than vice versa, they are always willing to propose that this problem be solved permanently by letting the Muslim and Christian majority portions of the country go their own ways.

What is your solution to "hateful" Christians. And if it is anything like "Christians should not be hateful", it is a juvenile answer, telling people to "just be nice" has never solved anything.

It seems you have never read Christian manifesto before?. Go and read it in the thread on my profile you commented on.

To brief you, it says Christians must use every means to convert Muslims to Christianity including but not limited to using money to entice Muslims. So I am not a fool. The pastor is a kidnapping terrorist. Christians don't do anything for free.

Pecuman:
Fine except for your later "Christian Conspiracy" part of the post I see your point. I still think MURIC's spokeman's article is horrible shit, the person that talked with LegitTV makes far more sense.

To keep the peace, avoid providing justification for worse actors and promote general societal wellbeing, he should have contacted the authorities as soon as possible, however any prosecution of the matter should be relatively linieant to take the complexity of the matter into consideration.

Pecuman:
Lol, I guess Boko Haram are righteous upon all the girls that they have raped.

Nigerian govt needs to review church curriculum bcus it seems to me you are taught nothing but hate in your bible school.

You see, you are still wrong to support him. In this dangerous world, he should do the right thing by taking her to the authority. I just posted the same story about Christian girl who ran away from her wicked parents who are pastors. Muslims returned her to her parents to avoid issues like this. That's transparency. It happened in the North.

So in this case, if her parents aren't good, pastor should have look for other family members. This is kidnapping in the eyes of the law. Good samaritan is by reporting to the police and let authority handles it. But because Christians have agenda from day one, they take advantage of every opportunity. The same thing they do when they see poor Muslims on the street. They will never do anything for free.

Pecuman:
A girl ran away from her home because of whatsoever unspecified hardship that was there, when she became lost, confused and scares she went to ask the pastor for help, he took her in and provided that her, it was she that initially by herself refused to go back initially because of the hardship of her home.

Like I don't know about the other cases that MURIC referenced, maybe those were justifiably horrible cases but this one isn't.

At least I understand why Nigeria lacks good Samaritans.

Karmatyra:
God do you guys read at all. kai

tell me what I missed, please

Karmatyra:
the girl left home at 13,came back when she was 18. she was not sexually abused or malyreaated in anyway,infact the pator did a good job,giving her shelter,putting her through school and all that,the wrong thing he did was not to report to the police when they brought the girl to him kos she was still a minor. and for that he should be held accountable. that's just it.

obey the law. This is kidnapping regardless of good things he did. How intention was clear, to convert her to Christianity and cover his track with "good deeds". Go and read stories of kidnapping in US how a kidnapper stole a baby in 1998 from hospital and raised her until she was 18. She gave her education and she lives good life too.

But the woman (kidnapper) robbed the baby of her identity. It was still considered kidnapping under the law. She was caught and now serving 18 yrs behind bars. Stop giving excuses. If pastor was Muslim your guys would be different. He robbed this girl of her religious identity.

segun18:
I agree with you M. O. G however, the girl in question should be publicly questioned by the authorities. I live abroad and the authorities here don't shield a criminal pastor. I hope the girl was not sexually abused in any process. It is irresponsible to hide a 13 year old girl. No matter how good intentioned the Pastor is, in UK where I live the Pastor and his associates will go to jail. It may look Biblically right but it is morally and legally wrong. God bless us all

remember similar story of a christian girl maltreated by her pastor parents ?. She's igbo girl. I think the incident happened in Kano or kaduna. She ran away from home to Muslims and muslims returned her to her parents. But see Christians giving so much excuses to the point of shifting goalpost.

wackpoet:
I suspect the girl decided, of her own free will to convert to Christianity and the MURIC folks are trying to pin it as a kidnapping because they don't like that narrative and want to fuel ethnoreligious crises.

just assume the pastor was Muslim and the girl was Christian and converted to Islam. Would you have said the same thing you just said?. The world is watching you SOB. Your hypocrisy stinks.

First sensible comment. They are hypocrites.

Proffwhyhurry12:
Hypocrites everywhere! Look at how everybody diverts attention from the main issue and still instigating Muric as if that pastor did the right thing.

No more conscience, Blindfolded with hatred for Muric.

Be straightforward for once and never be bullied to silence when it comes to truth

Oh I see. Got you now.

IMAliyu:
I don't think TheYoda was referring to BTC as a scam, but that anything/anyone that offers to give you high rewards like 7x on investment in a week is most likely a scam.
Even FX traders trade gold, BTC and other commodities.
Just a week ago a fraudsters was successfully ousted on here, so tensions are still high and no one here wants another case of people falling for any more scams.

TheYoda:
I go carry for handicap lol or go play baba ijebu for 2 sure lol or what is it called.

Thanks Bro,

wetin btc atm got to do with invest 1k and take 8k in 7-14days.

HEHEHEHE Pls sir, invest in it too... but please promise to come back when you get your fingers burnt to gist us.

You see people never learn, MMM, and all scheme and you see people still fall for it over and over again.

Boss nothing else I can tell you oh, well invest what you can afford to burn.

No, you don't understand. Bitcoin atm means you can convert your bitcoin to cash and cash out at designated bitcoin ATM only or sell your bitcoin. I never traded MMM and I opposed that because that was scam for real and I don't doubt bitcoin fake practices either in country like Nigeria. Bitcoin is recognized by govt but unfortunately it is not regulated by govt or banks

Lol... Did I tell you I am trading bitcoin?. I read people on this platform discussing bitcoin and I got more info for them. Afterall there is nothing wrong with trying new things. You fall, stand up and do it again. That's nature of most businesses anyways. I'm not into any forms of online trading. Fact is bitcoin is real and supported by govt. I read about it all the time but I'm not interested in trading it. There are Bitcoin ATM machines too. I don't know which country you live. I have bunch of them where I live. Even just yesterday a friend of mine reached out to me that her father invested $500 and in few days he earned $1200 in return. Still, I am not interested, period. Bitcoin is a speculation, but potentially lucrative.

TheYoda:
With all said and done here, you people will still fall for such a cheap scam? wow, just wow.

$1000 to more than $7500 in just 7-14days. If you guys continue to allow your greed to control you, well I don't know, I just feel bad for you guys.

Well, I have better strategy, bring 850$, in 8 days, I'll be able to get you 28000$. When you're ready, I'll give you details, where to send money to.

peacekante:
The Governor was asked by Dele MOMODU if he is igbo and he gave a blunt reply. "I am not" . He later went on to clarify the misunderstanding about his name and also the ikwere people link to igbo.

Watch video


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3ANmx2mhOU

This is interesting. Did I just learn Dele Momodu said he's from Edo State?. I always thought he was from Southwest like Ogun State.

It is high time Nigerians get over tribal and ethnic differences. It doesn't help us a bit. This interview further proves to us that human beings are one big family. We are the ones that chose to differ for whatever purposes.

IMAliyu:
I don't know.

Making 7k from 1k in a week is super high risk, it down right feels scamy.
Thread with caution.

BTC on the other has a potential of double toping at 18-20k in my opinion. Based on the current liquidity crysis. I can't say what may happen after that.

I'm not trading or investing in bitcoin. I only gather info and share it with whoever is interested.

IMAliyu:
Sure why not.

I just hope it doesn't derail the thread.

I actually just got this update few mins ago... The Link

https://cointelegraph.com/news/3-reasons-bitcoin-price-just-hit-16-000-for-the-first-time-since-2017

Screenshot was conversation earlier today.

IMAliyu:
It was deleted.
Nairaland has it out against crypto currency discussions.

I sensed that. Can I share you a screenshot here?

uruba23:
I don't know why people are complaining, just offer yourself up to be a governor and see how convenient it is to be one..... You are just looking at the benefits; what about the sacrifice made for the state..

Don't worry, Baba. You are one of the reasons Nigerian politicians dey yotomi.

By the time chinese and koreans recolonize you maybe you will receive sense.

https://abiapulse.com/2018/11/25/give-me-nigeria-and-ghana-to-become-first-class-countries/

tonyson010:
Are you directing those insults and abuses to me or to who?

You seem to be lost in comprehending my comment.

whatever rocks your boat.

IMAliyu:
Baba, this your own.

You may want to start learning from the basics.

Babypips.com is a good place to learn.

where is the thread you talked about Bitcoin?. I remembered I commented on it few days ago but I can't find it. Even rilwayne001 click on Like button but I can't find it. I wanted to post interesting screenshot for you to see.

tonyson010:
The development in Kano recently is not limiting itself to Kano. It's fingers still caresses the FG.
After the terrible terrorism and killing in France carried out by Islamic terrorists in the country, they expect France to be praising the events ?
France being a developed and sane country is only fighting the few linked with terrorism.

The fact it is a country where everyone is free to practice any religion doesn't mean that it should open it hands and allow Islamic terrorists to be killing free citizens.

Christians can't go to Saudi Arabia and start killing Moslems just because they don't like the king or Saudi government.

Stup!d comment. Silly slave. How about you focus on terrible situation in your country called Nigeria?. How about you should be concerned about those who lost their lives at the hands of SARS during recent protest instead of worrying about stupid incident thousands of miles away from you?. They don't give a damn about those who died during the protest but you Black West Africa are so much worried about them. You are indeed a glorified slave.

FriendNG:
Actually muslims are doing very little. They have the upper hand when it comes the media.

this is what really got me concerned so so much.

How does this connect with endsars?. Do you not see threads and posts on this platform bashing northerners up and down almost everyday even before endsars protest?. This is equivalent to "omonile" in the Southwest Nigeria where you must pay before you do anything on your own land.

Instead of you to confer reasonable solution you are hellbent on hating fellow humans.

Honestly, govt and citizens of Nigeria are reta.rded. I am sick of Nigeria and Nigerians

dedons:
Imagine the kind of country I am.

God! How did I get here?

In my opinion, I believe the Northerners deserve what they have. Majority of them were all over the media condemning the #endsars protest and calling reasonable southerners all sort of names.

Their leaders are more concerned with silencing the massing through the evil social media regulation bill than face the problems bedeviling the region.

Again I ask, how did I get to share a country with these kind of people?

thebosstrevor1:
The level of illiteracy in Nigeria is high.

Instead of people to argue logically, they will turn logical comments to an abuse match.

The CBN has every right to block those accounts

on what ground and without legal process?

Are there significant efforts by Muslims against this rubbish?. Although I heard that CBN rejected their stupidity. And the so called diplomats should know better. In America and other western nations they have many languages on almost anything especially medical and even programmed in ATM machines. This is meant to extend communication and understandings not religion. Nigerian Christians suffer from hate and insecurities created by themselves.

Another example is what I read on fb ads. The ads says "help spread the bible in northern Nigeria. It is forbidden to be Christian in the North". This is another propaganda but I don't care. My concern is what Muslims are doing to challenge this bastards. They portray themselves as the victims while they systematically promote their gutter religion. Yes, gutter religion.

FriendNG:
And they will be acting as if Arabic is a religion.



They are gradually and stylishly removing Hausa (Written using Arabic alphabets) on our currency. They view Hausa written with Ajami script as Islamic.




And some dumb diplomat will be subscribing to their lies without investigating.

FriendNG:
Wallahi. Arabic is even more important in Kano than French. Who even speak French? None.

they are very stupid. How exactly French helped Kano people?. Bottom line is, Nigeria Christians are very intolerant. Their irrational hatred for Islam and muslims is their problem. This hate has clouded their thinking facility.

In many Nigerian hospitals there are CROSS LOGOS on them. No one talks about removing them. Muslims do not pressured them for removal but they are the ones with religious insecurities and paranoia.

The thing is, I hope Muslims have strong laws firms and civil rights organizations to tackle them. This is very ridiculous. Their game plan is to undermine anything that has to do with Islam in Nigeria while they they progress and promote Christianity.

You must never back down. You both own the country. French is not national language in Nigeria. If they wanna speak French they should go to francophones. I will repeat. Muslims must not take it easy with them. They want to erase traces of Islam in the country whereby next generation will not recognize Islam and it's heritage. Christianity is a slave religion and we must do everything within our capacity to end that stupid religious influence in govt.

I also heard that they reported president Muhammad Buhari to US and UK govts, that Buhari is persecuting Christians in the country. This is why Trump threw it at Buhari's face in their meeting last year. Christianity is a plague in Nigeria. It is the cause of backwardness Nigeria suffers from today.

lanrexlan:
And if you watch your president Trump, he pronounces some words in a funny way and some words of his are just useless.

let him catch you

lanrexlan:
Lol. Yoruba bawo? I graduated with an Engineering degree.

Nice one. You will help me build my vehicles from the scratch. Seriously govt needs to hire locals and engineering graduates for local infrastructures as pointed out by former executive governor of ogun state, Gbenga Daniel. It is a waste of time and resources hiring foreigners to do everything for us. This they have been doing for donkey years to no avail.

Yup, it is close to what Ridwan said. He said spitting (as in saliva) and kelebe isn't saliva and it is harder to spit mucus than saliva. Moreover, mucus is useless while saliva isn't.

Another interpretation is that there is difficulty to spit mucus (kelebe), so when it is said someone speaks as if they spit mucus, it can mean the person's speech isn't clear and the person's words are as useless as kelebe.

indeed.. jazakallahu

lanrexlan:


Do you find it easy to "tu kelebe"? When one talks like "O tu kelebe", it means the person speaks anyhow with useless words and his words are always thrown around like kelebe.

chai... You studied Yoruba in school or what?. I still didn't understand rilwayne's interpretation. That's why I kept mute.

But his still means same as yours.... Just different wordings

TMSMedia:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.thisdaylive.com/index.php/2020/11/10/blasphemy-kano-islamic-groups-demand-sacking-of-french-nationals/amp/

nice move. There are so much "educated illiterates" on this platform

ayinba1:
And that is very human and again, Allah knows best.

I stated what I felt, I have no knowledge of the future. Whomever Allah places in office, my prayer is that they do not oppress the ummah. Trump is not a pleasant individual. Period. My sister said he speaks like "ki eniyan tu kelebe"

naam... That's the most important Dua. Me no understand this Yoruba underlined oo. I need ayan ogbufo (I guess that's what it is called). Maybe lanrexlan or rilwayne001 can help with that.