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najib632:But the dude used to romance the website but now saying they are upon lkhwanmuslimun manhaj and they strayed. But he used to use the website as evidence anytime we debated. He would run there to pull references. Now he distances himself. He used to praised owner of the site, sheikh Muhammad Al-Munajjid. He's a confused fellow. He's remotely controlled taqlidi but he denied being blind follower. ![]() |
tintingz:I know you are being frustrated. I will continue to frustrate you. Your questions derail this thread. ![]() |
true2god:I sensed that
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true2god:so you are now a reformed "moderate Christian"? |
true2god:you no longer remember Finland Igbo lady yrs ago? |
tintingz:why is your focus on gay?. Aren't there other vices that some govt consider illegal and criminalized? |
iamgenius:it is still not her business to worry about free mixing. Stress only hire to bake cake. Period. Bake your cake, present to them, collect your check and bounce. What's her business with free filledsu mixing?. She be police?. Who's About the birthday, brother, don't follow your whims. I won't discuss this.and you guys aren't following your whims by declaring birthdays Haram without proof?. She declared it Haram onset and you and the abdelkabir shared the same view without evidence. Who's following whims? |
tintingz:your question is irrational. I have answered you unless you have ulterior motives. |
true2god:so you are admitting that in the days of ifeann you were dogmatic and hating Islam for no apparent reason ![]() |
^^ How does she determines free mixing of opposite sex at weddings and dinners are not relative?. Is that part of her job? |
^^^ You are wasting your time. Kindly read what she said aysh.a37:Now tell me, what else do you bake cake for besides these major events?. pay attention to bolded part, she didnt make exception. She used plural for WEDDINGS & DINNERS. Now, my question to you is, is baking for weddings where music and free mixing exist have anything to do with her business and how does she aide them in transgression?. Does she has business with free mixing and music at the weddings?. Is that what she is hired for?. Answer this please Also she said birthdays are haram. Her evidence was Sheikh fulan siad it is haram. She did not bring "qola Allah qola rasul". Yet she said she needed "sunnah perspectives". Where in the sunnah it is said birthdays are forbidden please?. I dont think she realized gravity of making haram what Allah did not make haram. So if she is not baking for weddings and dinners, it means she closed down her business. She did not use singular for wedding or dinner. She is wasting her time losing her own business due to lack of knowledge. She thinks she engages in haram. Later she will be online saying she is discriminated against is the reason she can not get a job. |
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abdulazeez1002:You are debating someone who doesn't even understand himself you are in for endless arguments, BELIEVE THAT ![]() Good luck trying to reset him mental faculty ![]() |
tintingz:you and iamgenius sometimes possessed same level of thinking. You don't seem to understand what this thread is about. She never said her baking business is Haram. Her concern was it is Haram for her to bake for a wedding party where free mixing gathering and other vices might exist. She said baking for them is like encouraging free mixing and vices. Because of this she discontinued her business. But I disagreed with her bcus her business was to bake for people. She's is not responsible for what goes on in the wedding gathering. That's none of her business. How does she determines opposite sexes mixing at wedding are not related?. But catering or baking for people is legit business. I don't know how she came about her thoughts. This makes her ignorant of the Sunnah. She would have been correct if her business was illegal and Haram but it is not. Is it right to kill gay?If govt of a country deems it illegal and it is backed by their Constitution, then, it becomes criminal offense to be gay in such country. In that case, ONLY govt has the right to persecute gay. No individual has the right to kill. That's tantamount to jungle justice and perpetrator must be punished. Citizens are only obliged to report such activity but not put law in their hands. You understand?. So asking if it is right to kill gay is subjective. It is unguarded question. If a country however doesn't criminalize homosexuality, then no one has the right to kill them. They enjoy freedom as anyone else but they do not have the right to infringe other people Constitutional rights. Do Not Derail This Thread |
tintingz:no, religion is not at fault here. She is rather ignorant of "Sunnah perceptives" she's seeking. She forgot that her business is about serving the public. Is it right to kill gay?you tell me. People who promote homosexuality now used to frown upon it decades ago. They used to arrest women for indecent dresses decades ago. Now, later generation are essentially atheists who know not right from wrong. |
tintingz:seems you did not read my comments from the beginning of the thread. I don't have problem with it but she does unfortunately. I tried to tell her that her business is sharia compliant but she's somehow convinced that she's involved in Haram business by baking for wedding party where there is free mixing. I disagree with her. What she should be asking is, how she can develop in her business.you can say that again. And stop this fallacy, atheists know what's right and wrong, we don't need any archaic dogmatic approval before we do things.nope, they don't. They only know what they think it's right. You just espoused that in your previous post. Or is killing a gay, apostate right?take your question elsewhere ![]() Lol a fact?, so you know what's in my mind.complete this phrase. Your action speaks LOUDER............ |
tintingz:she does has right to be conscious of what she earns. She has right to ask what she doesn't understand. Problem with atheists is that they don't know right from wrong. This is why you don't care about how you earn your income. You're projecting too much which is fallacious.it is a fact. Your conscience makes you feel guilty |
tintingz:she's just being concious what she earns which is good thing bcus we will account for it. But unfortunately she's not adequately equipped Islamically. How about you?. Don't you think you are deceiving yourself?. Inside of you know the truth is the reason why you keep patronizing this section. Your conscience is speaking to you everyday. You feel guilty inside but satan is pranking your ego. I know this. |
true2god:See this man speaks like muslim lately. You are so close to muslims now than before. You know deep down your heart Islam is the truth. You just trying to hold on to the shell on the other side. Drop that shell, buddy. |
officialteemi:you think everyone is pervert like you ![]() |
AlBaqir:I guess we got "all night" misconstrued. It could simply means long hours at night, not entire night. |
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iamgenius:so you are in agreement with me then?. Abdelkabir passively disagree with me. So what's the point of your wailing earlier? |
iamgenius:Toor. Eyinwi. You are trying to divert attention. Stay in topic. Is she wrong for quitting her baking business or not? |
iamgenius:nope. you and him have indirectly considered my posts to be "misguided". So go ahead and help yourselves. I have my opinion on this and i wont allow you to steal it |
iamgenius:it is only rational if you quotate which part and let's see |
iamgenius:allow abdelkabir to answer you. Direct your question to him see if he can rent his place to these people you mentioned and money he earns from that whether it is halal or Haram. Go ahead Now, I put you on hot seat ![]() |
iamgenius:brother wallahi you don't seem to even understand this thread. Instead of wasting my time, kindly go back and read everything cus you mixing things up. For clarity, she is the one who said she quit her baking business. You and others don't understand anything I posted. It is you guys that are trying to Haram everything. Go back up and re-read, please |
iamgenius:so you don't understand Yoruba anymore?. Gelepawo in this context is pro.stituion. see why I said you people are clueless all the time?. I thought you know what gbelepawo means?. In broad context however, not all gbelepawo are Haram. Some may be doing legit online business like blogger as source of income. This is fair. This is called Home Base Business. But I thought you understood gbelepawo in this context. We all know what gbelepawo is in Yoruba back in the days. Smh I didn't have to be explicit for you guys to understand now. |
See bunch of confused people. She said she quit baking business bcuz of free mixing at wedding. She said baking for them is like "encouraging free mixing". You (iamgenius) on the other hand said nothing wrong with baking cake for the wedding ceremony. Who is confused here? Again, where is evidence that birthdays are Haram?. She said a sheik said it is Haram. She didn't say Nabi (saw) said so. I am wondering what Sunnah you guys follow?. It is obvious that you simply hate anyone whose manhaj is contrary to yours instead of looking for facts. Since you claim you follow sunnah, it only makes sense for you guys to provide proof from the Sunnah where it says birthdays are Haram. Onus lies on you not the contrary. And I guess you guys have stopped romancing Islamqa website bcuz it no longer suits you, but the sister quoted owner of the site that birthday is Haram. Talk about confusion |
aysha37:Your choice maam.. You are on your own sister. May Allah ease your affairs. But know that you are responsible before Him for what you declare Haram or halal. Since you know that according to you, birthdays are Haram, why did you waste your time asking this question here? Where is your daleel that birthdays are Haram?. You said you wanted "Sunnah preceptives". Where is sunnah evidence that birthdays are Haram?. How do you determine people mixing at wedding parties are not related?. Lots of people are invited and obviously you can not control that just like the way ulama can't control Hajj mixing. The only time we can control separation of sexes is salat or organized Islamic lectures. You are a baker and you are patronised to bake for the wedding. Sister, what is your business with them mixing?. Is that what you are hired for?. If you want to keep deceiving yourself or allow people to deceive you, you are seriously on your own. Is this baking business not better far better than working for someone else? You are independent as baker. You know what many sisters go through to find job and you want to allow uninformed people to tell you baking business is Haram?. Seriously?. Is this what Islamic education produced in this day and age in Nigeria or wherever you live?. Let's break it down again. Baking business is halal. Wedding is halal. They patronize your business to bake for them and collect your money. Abeg, what is your business with their gathering, please?. Did Sunnah tells you to go beyond duty you are hired for?. And now later you will be here saying life is hard bcuz you deprived yourself of halal means. I am waiting for your evidence that says birthdays are Haram. Do please provide evidence from kitab and sunnah only. |
You don't understand irukandji89: |
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