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IslamRe: Business Of Baking Birthday Cakes And Wedding Dinners In Islam. by Empiree: 3:15pm On Jan 29, 2019
najib632:
Sister continue to use Islamicqa, they provide evidences from the Qur'an and the Sunnah.
But the dude used to romance the website but now saying they are upon lkhwanmuslimun manhaj and they strayed. But he used to use the website as evidence anytime we debated. He would run there to pull references. Now he distances himself. He used to praised owner of the site, sheikh Muhammad Al-Munajjid.

He's a confused fellow. He's remotely controlled taqlidi but he denied being blind follower. grin
IslamRe: Business Of Baking Birthday Cakes And Wedding Dinners In Islam. by Empiree: 3:06pm On Jan 29, 2019
tintingz:
Ok, is killing apostate right?

Dude, tell us your own morality stance on this and stop this straws.
I know you are being frustrated. I will continue to frustrate you. Your questions derail this thread. angry
IslamRe: Fabrications And Errors In Sahih Bukhari and Muslim by Empiree: 2:50pm On Jan 29, 2019
true2god:
You are right bro.
I sensed that

IslamRe: Fabrications And Errors In Sahih Bukhari and Muslim by Empiree: 1:53pm On Jan 29, 2019
true2god:
Oh I do remember. That was some years back before the Islamic section was moved away from public access.
so you are now a reformed "moderate Christian"?
IslamRe: Fabrications And Errors In Sahih Bukhari and Muslim by Empiree: 1:29pm On Jan 29, 2019
true2god:
What do you mean by the bolded, in the days of ifeann?
you no longer remember Finland Igbo lady yrs ago?
IslamRe: Business Of Baking Birthday Cakes And Wedding Dinners In Islam. by Empiree: 1:25pm On Jan 29, 2019
tintingz:
Ok, the government determines your morality?
why is your focus on gay?. Aren't there other vices that some govt consider illegal and criminalized?
IslamRe: Business Of Baking Birthday Cakes And Wedding Dinners In Islam. by Empiree: 12:57pm On Jan 29, 2019
iamgenius:
It's obvious they can't be all relatives, even there's limit of mixing between relatives like cousins to cousins mixing.
it is still not her business to worry about free mixing. Stress only hire to bake cake. Period. Bake your cake, present to them, collect your check and bounce. What's her business with free
filledsu mixing?. She be police?.
Who's


About the birthday, brother, don't follow your whims. I won't discuss this.
and you guys aren't following your whims by declaring birthdays Haram without proof?. She declared it Haram onset and you and the abdelkabir shared the same view without evidence. Who's following whims?
IslamRe: Business Of Baking Birthday Cakes And Wedding Dinners In Islam. by Empiree: 12:47pm On Jan 29, 2019
tintingz:
This

Again, from your own morality, is it right to kill gay?

What determine what's right and wrong, is it the government?
your question is irrational. I have answered you unless you have ulterior motives.
IslamRe: Fabrications And Errors In Sahih Bukhari and Muslim by Empiree: 12:44pm On Jan 29, 2019
true2god:
You are being delusional. I open my mind to a rational discussion and never again blinded by religious dogma. We are all human beings being artificially separated by religion.
so you are admitting that in the days of ifeann you were dogmatic and hating Islam for no apparent reasonhuh cheesy
IslamRe: Business Of Baking Birthday Cakes And Wedding Dinners In Islam. by Empiree: 6:11am On Jan 29, 2019
^^

How does she determines free mixing of opposite sex at weddings and dinners are not relative?. Is that part of her job?
IslamRe: Business Of Baking Birthday Cakes And Wedding Dinners In Islam. by Empiree:
^^^

You are wasting your time. Kindly read what she said


aysh.a37:
Birthdays are haram. so is wedding dinners involving music n mixture of male n female who are not blood related. ,I think making birthday cakes is haram too because we are helping in trangression.I've decided to stop baking for weddings n dinners.
Now tell me, what else do you bake cake for besides these major events?. pay attention to bolded part, she didnt make exception. She used plural for WEDDINGS & DINNERS. Now, my question to you is, is baking for weddings where music and free mixing exist have anything to do with her business and how does she aide them in transgression?. Does she has business with free mixing and music at the weddings?. Is that what she is hired for?. Answer this please


Also she said birthdays are haram. Her evidence was Sheikh fulan siad it is haram. She did not bring "qola Allah qola rasul". Yet she said she needed "sunnah perspectives". Where in the sunnah it is said birthdays are forbidden please?. I dont think she realized gravity of making haram what Allah did not make haram.

So if she is not baking for weddings and dinners, it means she closed down her business. She did not use singular for wedding or dinner. She is wasting her time losing her own business due to lack of knowledge. She thinks she engages in haram. Later she will be online saying she is discriminated against is the reason she can not get a job.
PoliticsRe: We Recognise Only Onnoghen As CJN, NBA Declares by Empiree: 4:13am On Jan 29, 2019
BeautifulMind2:
The Nigerian Bar Association says it still recognises Justice Walter Onnoghen as the Chief Justice of Nigeria.

IslamRe: There's No God But Allah? by Empiree: 3:25am On Jan 29, 2019
abdulazeez1002:
I'll still continue to give you the answer.

It is impossible to have another god aside Allah
You are debating someone who doesn't even understand himself cheesy grin you are in for endless arguments, BELIEVE THAT cool

Good luck trying to reset him mental faculty lipsrsealed
IslamRe: Business Of Baking Birthday Cakes And Wedding Dinners In Islam. by Empiree: 2:24am On Jan 29, 2019
tintingz:
She doesn't need anyone to tell her catering business is right or wrong, we have brain for reason. She either find interest it or not, there's nothing wrong with catering business.
you and iamgenius sometimes possessed same level of thinking. You don't seem to understand what this thread is about. She never said her baking business is Haram. Her concern was it is Haram for her to bake for a wedding party where free mixing gathering and other vices might exist. She said baking for them is like encouraging free mixing and vices.

Because of this she discontinued her business. But I disagreed with her bcus her business was to bake for people. She's is not responsible for what goes on in the wedding gathering. That's none of her business. How does she determines opposite sexes mixing at wedding are not related?. But catering or baking for people is legit business. I don't know how she came about her thoughts. This makes her ignorant of the Sunnah. She would have been correct if her business was illegal and Haram but it is not.


Is it right to kill gay?
If govt of a country deems it illegal and it is backed by their Constitution, then, it becomes criminal offense to be gay in such country. In that case, ONLY govt has the right to persecute gay. No individual has the right to kill. That's tantamount to jungle justice and perpetrator must be punished.

Citizens are only obliged to report such activity but not put law in their hands. You understand?. So asking if it is right to kill gay is subjective. It is unguarded question.

If a country however doesn't criminalize homosexuality, then no one has the right to kill them. They enjoy freedom as anyone else but they do not have the right to infringe other people Constitutional rights.

Do Not Derail This Thread
IslamRe: Business Of Baking Birthday Cakes And Wedding Dinners In Islam. by Empiree:
tintingz:
Does she expects the world to be like amazon where only female exist? Most business involve gender mix. If she doesn't like it she should do business that involve only female, that does not wipe out men from existence.

Religion actually put people into this ridiculous dilemma, a delusion.
no, religion is not at fault here. She is rather ignorant of "Sunnah perceptives" she's seeking. She forgot that her business is about serving the public.



Is it right to kill gay?
you tell me. People who promote homosexuality now used to frown upon it decades ago. They used to arrest women for indecent dresses decades ago. Now, later generation are essentially atheists who know not right from wrong.
IslamRe: Business Of Baking Birthday Cakes And Wedding Dinners In Islam. by Empiree: 12:47am On Jan 29, 2019
tintingz:
Lol, what's wrong with doing cakes and dinners for events as business? What's wrong with it?
seems you did not read my comments from the beginning of the thread. I don't have problem with it but she does unfortunately. I tried to tell her that her business is sharia compliant but she's somehow convinced that she's involved in Haram business by baking for wedding party where there is free mixing. I disagree with her.



What she should be asking is, how she can develop in her business.
you can say that again.



And stop this fallacy, atheists know what's right and wrong, we don't need any archaic dogmatic approval before we do things.
nope, they don't. They only know what they think it's right. You just espoused that in your previous post.


Or is killing a gay, apostate right?
take your question elsewhere undecided


Lol a fact?, so you know what's in my mind. grin
complete this phrase.

Your action speaks LOUDER............
IslamRe: Business Of Baking Birthday Cakes And Wedding Dinners In Islam. by Empiree: 11:55pm On Jan 28, 2019
tintingz:
It is silly(no offense) to ask questions and approval to this kinda business. This is a business that will fetch her income, something that doesn't hurt anyone and she's concious for what again?
she does has right to be conscious of what she earns. She has right to ask what she doesn't understand. Problem with atheists is that they don't know right from wrong. This is why you don't care about how you earn your income.

You're projecting too much which is fallacious. grin
it is a fact. Your conscience makes you feel guilty
IslamRe: Business Of Baking Birthday Cakes And Wedding Dinners In Islam. by Empiree: 11:16pm On Jan 28, 2019
tintingz:
Lol. grin

Religious people and mentally caged.
she's just being concious what she earns which is good thing bcus we will account for it. But unfortunately she's not adequately equipped Islamically.

How about you?. Don't you think you are deceiving yourself?. Inside of you know the truth is the reason why you keep patronizing this section. Your conscience is speaking to you everyday. You feel guilty inside but satan is pranking your ego. I know this.
IslamRe: Fabrications And Errors In Sahih Bukhari and Muslim by Empiree: 8:36pm On Jan 28, 2019
true2god:
This hadith by Anas Ibn Malik is very fake and must be discarded. It is not possible for a man to sleep with 9 woman in one night. I wonder why they included this stuff in the hadith.

This is to show that sahih Bukhari is not completely sahih; there are many wrong stuffs in there.
See this man speaks like muslim lately. You are so close to muslims now than before. You know deep down your heart Islam is the truth. You just trying to hold on to the shell on the other side. Drop that shell, buddy.
CelebritiesRe: Wunmi Obe: Cossy Orjiakor Sat Beside My Husband, Tunde Obe With Her Boobs-Baring by Empiree: 3:48pm On Jan 28, 2019
officialteemi:
the guy beside her tho...y is he not looking nah
you think everyone is pervert like youhuh
IslamRe: Fabrications And Errors In Sahih Bukhari and Muslim by Empiree: 5:54am On Jan 28, 2019
AlBaqir:
Prophet doesn't pray ALL NIGHT.

# Surah Al-Isra, Verse 79:


And during a part of the night, pray Tahajjud beyond what is incumbent on you; maybe your Lord will raise you to a position of great glory.



# Surah Al-Muzzammil, Verse 1- 3:


O you who have wrapped up in your garments!


Rise to pray in the night except a little,


Half of it, or lessen it a little"


The hadith you have quoted has given clear information that he sleeps, he prays and have time for his women.
I guess we got "all night" misconstrued. It could simply means long hours at night, not entire night.
IslamRe: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by Empiree: 1:13am On Jan 28, 2019
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IslamRe: Business Of Baking Birthday Cakes And Wedding Dinners In Islam. by Empiree: 12:25am On Jan 28, 2019
iamgenius:
I've answered that already.
so you are in agreement with me then?.

Abdelkabir passively disagree with me. So what's the point of your wailing earlier?
IslamRe: Business Of Baking Birthday Cakes And Wedding Dinners In Islam. by Empiree: 11:54pm On Jan 27, 2019
iamgenius:
Your opinion on an Islamic ruling? You're funny, you're not even up to the standard of a student of knowledge.
Toor. Eyinwi. You are trying to divert attention. Stay in topic.

Is she wrong for quitting her baking business or not?
IslamRe: Business Of Baking Birthday Cakes And Wedding Dinners In Islam. by Empiree: 11:46pm On Jan 27, 2019
iamgenius:
You should answer that. It's you and I.
nope. you and him have indirectly considered my posts to be "misguided". So go ahead and help yourselves. I have my opinion on this and i wont allow you to steal it
IslamRe: Business Of Baking Birthday Cakes And Wedding Dinners In Islam. by Empiree: 11:44pm On Jan 27, 2019
iamgenius:
The last part of my post is explaining things to her, when you mentioned that she said she quit the business.

And both parts of my post are telling you that you don't know how rulings are derived. Thanks.
it is only rational if you quotate which part and let's see
IslamRe: Business Of Baking Birthday Cakes And Wedding Dinners In Islam. by Empiree: 11:32pm On Jan 27, 2019
iamgenius:
I understood what you said perfectly. Are renting shops to beer palours and churches also under gbelepawo?
allow abdelkabir to answer you. Direct your question to him see if he can rent his place to these people you mentioned and money he earns from that whether it is halal or Haram. Go ahead

Now, I put you on hot seat cheesy
IslamRe: Business Of Baking Birthday Cakes And Wedding Dinners In Islam. by Empiree: 11:29pm On Jan 27, 2019
iamgenius:
Brother, you do not know how scholars derive Islamic rulings. You need to go learn some things about that.
Why will she quit the business because of the free mixing? Is baking cake for those people the source of free mixing? If there's no cake in the event, will there be no free mixing?
brother wallahi you don't seem to even understand this thread. Instead of wasting my time, kindly go back and read everything cus you mixing things up. For clarity, she is the one who said she quit her baking business. You and others don't understand anything I posted.


It is you guys that are trying to Haram everything. Go back up and re-read, please
IslamRe: Business Of Baking Birthday Cakes And Wedding Dinners In Islam. by Empiree: 11:09pm On Jan 27, 2019
iamgenius:
OK brother, you said :"The only time it becomes Haram is if the tenant is "gbelepawo". you didn't say anything that is Haraam.

Which kind of exposure are you talking about o?
so you don't understand Yoruba anymore?. Gelepawo in this context is pro.stituion. see why I said you people are clueless all the time?. I thought you know what gbelepawo means?.

In broad context however, not all gbelepawo are Haram. Some may be doing legit online business like blogger as source of income. This is fair. This is called Home Base Business. But I thought you understood gbelepawo in this context. We all know what gbelepawo is in Yoruba back in the days. Smh

I didn't have to be explicit for you guys to understand now.
IslamRe: Business Of Baking Birthday Cakes And Wedding Dinners In Islam. by Empiree:
grin grin

See bunch of confused people. She said she quit baking business bcuz of free mixing at wedding. She said baking for them is like "encouraging free mixing".

You (iamgenius) on the other hand said nothing wrong with baking cake for the wedding ceremony.

Who is confused here?

Again, where is evidence that birthdays are Haram?. She said a sheik said it is Haram. She didn't say Nabi (saw) said so.

I am wondering what Sunnah you guys follow?. It is obvious that you simply hate anyone whose manhaj is contrary to yours instead of looking for facts. Since you claim you follow sunnah, it only makes sense for you guys to provide proof from the Sunnah where it says birthdays are Haram. Onus lies on you not the contrary.

And I guess you guys have stopped romancing Islamqa website bcuz it no longer suits you, but the sister quoted owner of the site that birthday is Haram.

Talk about confusion
IslamRe: Business Of Baking Birthday Cakes And Wedding Dinners In Islam. by Empiree:
aysha37:
Trade is permitted in Islam but not all trades.Birthdays are haram so is wedding dinners involving music n mixture of male n female who are not blood related.Selling alchohol is haram,since this is haram likewise I think making birthday cakes is haram too because we are helping in trangression.I've decided to stop baking for weddings n dinners.
Your choice maam.. You are on your own sister. May Allah ease your affairs. But know that you are responsible before Him for what you declare Haram or halal. Since you know that according to you, birthdays are Haram, why did you waste your time asking this question here?

Where is your daleel that birthdays are Haram?. You said you wanted "Sunnah preceptives". Where is sunnah evidence that birthdays are Haram?.

How do you determine people mixing at wedding parties are not related?. Lots of people are invited and obviously you can not control that just like the way ulama can't control Hajj mixing. The only time we can control separation of sexes is salat or organized Islamic lectures. You are a baker and you are patronised to bake for the wedding. Sister, what is your business with them mixing?. Is that what you are hired for?. If you want to keep deceiving yourself or allow people to deceive you, you are seriously on your own.

Is this baking business not better far better than working for someone else? You are independent as baker. You know what many sisters go through to find job and you want to allow uninformed people to tell you baking business is Haram?. Seriously?. Is this what Islamic education produced in this day and age in Nigeria or wherever you live?.

Let's break it down again. Baking business is halal. Wedding is halal. They patronize your business to bake for them and collect your money. Abeg, what is your business with their gathering, please?. Did Sunnah tells you to go beyond duty you are hired for?. And now later you will be here saying life is hard bcuz you deprived yourself of halal means.

I am waiting for your evidence that says birthdays are Haram. Do please provide evidence from kitab and sunnah only.
IslamRe: Fabrications And Errors In Sahih Bukhari and Muslim by Empiree: 8:32pm On Jan 27, 2019
You don't understand
irukandji89:
It should be your business if you will quote me.
This Hadith is portraying our prophet to be hypersexual, sleeping with 9 wives in one night.

And that he does it every night.

And you're saying it doesn't contradict another one that also says he prays every night for long hours till his feet become swollen.

How long will someone stand till his feet become swollen?


How many hours was he spending with his wives or was it an orgy?

I believe the Hadith about him sleeping with all his wives in one night is fake, and should be discarded.

It's a disgusting account.

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