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Jokes Etc › Re: My Hilarious Picture Album by Empiree: 4:30pm On Dec 17, 2018

Rilwayne001:
Now that's really funny

Is it not against the law to be having sex with some else's wife??

here we go

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.rt.com/usa/416687-husband-facing-prison-cheating-wife/amp/

Jokes Etc › Re: My Hilarious Picture Album by Empiree: 3:24pm On Dec 17, 2018*

Rilwayne001:
Now that's really funny

Is it not against the law to be having sex with some else's wife??

her husband wasn't expecting that. The story says he lost his phone or iPad and used GPS to track it to his neighbor's house. His neighbor was his wife's boss. And they didn't close the door and he met his wife in his boss' room naked.

So he tried to take picture as proof so that she can not get Divorce benefits. Instead he was charged for tresspasses and disturbing neighbor. He's facing 15 yrs in jail. Let me see if I can find the article.

In modern Western Civilization, there is rarely criminal charges for infidelity. It is her freedom to cheat. Wallahi, it is crazy when it comes to marriage and relationship. Men are not smiling at all. If you beat her you make your case worst. Police will enough you from the house and have your wife live there. This way she has more freedom. She can bring different men to your house and you can not do anything about it and you still have to pay rent. This happens to many Nigerians in America.

Just happened to a friend's friend a month ago. He brought his wife from Nigeria and his wife, supposedly, ómó eleja etc. She quickly adapted to America lifestyle. During slight argument, e called the police and the guy was sent away to find a place to live but he still must pay the rent where his wife and kids live.

This thing makes many men run mad.

Islam › Re: Signs Of A Good End by Empiree: 3:11pm On Dec 17, 2018

najib632:
I have already come to a conclusion Alhamdulillah, I always try to avoid fitnah as much as possible because these are scholars opinions not that of the rasool if that hadith is really authentic the messenger of Allah S.A.W would have used it for Hassan or Hussein R.A. This my understanding as a Salafi I choose the best opinion from any school of thought.

Not sure if you understood my post. Using taweez on baby or sick person is Hadith of the prophet (saw) in sahih bukhari not scholars' opinion. Unless y want to declare the hadith fake. Please look for the Hadith.

As for using taweez on Hasan and Hussein(ra), Nabi (saw) didn't have to. He's beyond afterall, taweez is not as nowadays as it used to be because conditions changed.

Jokes Etc › Re: My Hilarious Picture Album by Empiree: 6:25am On Dec 17, 2018

Rilwayne001:
Pray that never happens to me, because I'll love my wife to the fullest, and I'll pray she loves me to the fullest too.

this thing is very common here. It is like chess game. They just changed boyfriends like changing clothes.

A husband caught his wife here in bed with another man and he was jailed for disturbing his wife and the other man bcus he stresspassed and disturbed them according to the law.

Jokes Etc › Re: My Hilarious Picture Album by Empiree: 5:33am On Dec 17, 2018

Rilwayne001:
Lol no. I mistakenly clicked 4 oh. But I'd definitely be confused at that particular moment.

Lol, mistake? grin

Honestly, a sincere man who truly loves his wife or girlfriend would be confused at that moment. But hardhead nigga would go straight for either of the 3 except 1

Islam › Re: Signs Of A Good End by Empiree: 5:09am On Dec 17, 2018

najib632:
Sadaqt, and also the six articles of faith and believe in the oneness of Allah. Anyone who uses ta'awiz has committed shirk and he must repent from it, because there an authentic Hadith that the prophet Muhammad S.A.W said it is shirk,
Here it is:
It was narrated from ‘Uqbah ibn ‘Aamir al-Juhani that a group came to the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) [to swear their allegiance (bay’ah) to him]. He accepted the bay’ah of nine of them but not of one of them. They said, “O Messenger of Allaah, you accepted the bay’ah of nine but not of this one.” He said, “He is wearing an amulet.” The man put his hand (in his shirt) and took it off, then he (the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him)) accepted his bay’ah. He said, ‘Whoever wears an amulet has committed shirk.”

(Narrated by Ahmad, 16969)

This hadeeth was classed as saheeh by Shaykh al-Albaani in al-Silsilah al-Saheehah, 492.

Some might try to argue if it contains ayyah from Qur'an or dua from the prophet the it is permissible, this is very dangerous and many usually become kafir without even realising it. Because they use things they don't understand and why wear a Qur'anic verse or prayer of the prophet when you can memorize it. We should always stay away from what the Messager of Allah and sahaba didn't do and always try to avoid suspicious things that the Salaf disagree upon because it's usually this that are dangerous and can lead to kufur.

You can see the commentary you ran below the hadith is opinion and understanding of section of people. Scholars have already divided taweez. But i understand the reason why scholars opposing taweez with ayah of Quran said so. They simply used precautions. Again, taweez containing phrases, names, recitation other than Allah is what the hadith called shirk bcus those arabs at the time used names other than Allah's Names.

It is true that memorization is always the best but not everyone can memorize. So if taweez with ayat of Quran is shirk, then it will always be shirk even if it is used for sick person or baby. There is hadith that say taweez is allowed for baby and sick person and this taweez only contains Allah's Names, Quran or hadith, nothing more. I have told you before that scholars differ on taweez containing Quran or ayat of Quran or God's Names. The only dangerous part is that some people may rely on it as if, if it is not on their body, they not gonna feel safe. This is nonsense. But taweez with ayat of Quran generally is not shirk. Also, it is used if a muslim is at dangerous places like around wild animals, bushes or evil jinn infested area. Areas like these, some people are fearful and forget to recite ayah. There are however conditions for using taweez. You can not enter the bathroom with it while on your body. You can not have it on your body if you are actively part of the undertakers at the jazana (i:e touching the deceased person). You can not have it on your body during intercourse. Although we tend to forget sometimes. That's fine. That's not deliberate act.

So what happens if you have it on your body and you enter bathroom, it will disappear. The same is true of other forbidden places i mentioned. This is haqiqa. This goes to show you that Allah's Names are powerful. It will not remain in filthy areas. So if someone has it on his body, he/she must know that it is Allah that protects him not taweez in itself. But overall, recitation and memorization of Quran is what should be encouraged. So if it is haram to place Allah's Names on the body, there is no difference btw that and memorizing it bcus memorization sinks in the body, too. So this school of thought you posted is most likely Hambali. Check out Maliki, Hanafi and Shafi'i schools. Most of them allowed it with conditions.

Let me give you one practical example to show you how Allah's Names are so powerful. If you have taweez on your body with ayah of Quran or Allah's Names on it and some known enemies are pursuing you or surveillance of you and are close to harm you, they are fearful to reach or touch you by the time they get close to you. It is like magnetic force and they look like dummy. But i definitely discourage those who act if their life depend on it if it is not on them. Example of this was a brother i met in New York last yr. He is from one of these african countries. While we were chatting at a supermarket, he starting patting down his pockets as if he lost money. I asked him if there is a problem?. He said "yes, brother. I might lost taweez given to me from back home. My mind just went there now". I said you should have memorized some of the ayat either for protection or sickness. I don't know which one exactly was taweez he used. He does appeared to be sick from the way i see him. So i told him instead of worrying about taweez, by now he can easily continue with recitation if it is that urgent.

So i dont believe for a second that taweez containing ayah of Quran or Allah is Names is shirk. Do google search and you will see lots of arguments for and against taweez.

Islam › Re: ...... by Empiree: 11:52pm On Dec 16, 2018

LadunaI:
Really? ....

you may listen to this when you have time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0ssejp0aJc

Islam › Re: Signs Of A Good End by Empiree: 11:49pm On Dec 16, 2018

najib632:
If you remember I said I don't really know the aqeeda of Tijaniyya, I will like to know Ibrahim Inyas story please.

Google can better a help some more, not me.

However, when i said belief, beliefs of muslims are the same. It shahada, salat, zakat, saum haj, this is the belief system. Anyone who rejects these is not a muslim. But if you talking about aqeedah in the sense of sect, that's sub-madhab. That's methodology they arrived at.

Jokes Etc › Re: My Hilarious Picture Album by Empiree: 11:29pm On Dec 16, 2018

Rilwayne001:
4

So you can be jealous to this level? cheesy

Jokes Etc › Re: My Hilarious Picture Album by Empiree: 8:22pm On Dec 16, 2018

Rilwayne001:
4

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Jokes Etc › Re: My Hilarious Picture Album by Empiree: 8:04pm On Dec 16, 2018

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Islam › Re: Signs Of A Good End by Empiree: 6:54pm On Dec 16, 2018

najib632:
Alhamdulillah, I understand what you're saying, innovation in belief is kufur 100%. Sects like shia (that curse the sahabah), Yazidi, Ahmadiyya, e.t.c. are kufar, because of their beliefs. But what is the judgement on musaabaqa and science and technology? Also salatul fati and erring sects like deobadi and Tijjaniya?
I am a neutralist Salafi I choose to be a salafi because I don't like the idea of following only one school of thought, because many other Imams and Salaf opinions have been lost due to this.

You are slowly entering brainwash zone. Good luck with that. You should first discribe belief according to Qur'an and Sunnah and then come to your conclusion.

Islam › Re: Signs Of A Good End by Empiree: 6:14pm On Dec 16, 2018*

najib632:
I see his followers playing music and dancing to it, I see them putting his image around their necks, I have heard of one of them that said sheikh inyas S.A.W(wa iyazubi Llah), they sit in circles of zikr which is very excellent but they beat their chests which is highly disliked, some of them say the use of ta'awiz is not Haram as long as you don't commit shirk, these are the ones I know. I usually don't dig into the aqeeda of other sects so these are just some that I know.

initially you said sheikh niyas(ra) was progenitor of innovations but what you said here have nothing to do with him. Here you are talking about people who do stuff after him.

See how you failed first test?. I'm not gonna get involved in what those people do. I have noted your point. I'm only gonna address issue of tawiz. There is ijma that tawiz that contain kufr statement or names other than Allah is shirk. Tawiz that contain Allah's Names is not shirk. There is difference of opinion on the later. Those who dislike tawiz don't say it is shirk. Most said it is makhruh.

Yes I do, some innovations lead to kufur, some are good, but they still have their own lapses.

so far you have failed to prove his innovations. But you made allegation that he's the father of innovations but you can't prove it.

Islam › Re: Muslims: Why Did Mohammed Forbid His Wives From Re-marrying After His Death? by Empiree: 4:48pm On Dec 16, 2018

true2god:
This is what a brainwashed person will say when he has no logical explanation to give. Only an ignorant mofo will prefer a dead Arabian lady, who made zero contribution to his life, over his biological mother.

But your bible said this;

"Anyone who loves their father or mother more than me is not worthy of me; anyone who loves their son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me." Matthew 10:37

also

"If anyone comes to me and does not hate father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters--yes, even their own life--such a person cannot be my disciple." Luke 14:26

These indicate that you must love Jesus that you dont see more than you own biological parents. Not only you love Jesus more than them but you must also hate your parents in addition to that. Woooow

Islam › Re: Muslims: Why Did Mohammed Forbid His Wives From Re-marrying After His Death? by Empiree: 4:41pm On Dec 16, 2018

true2god:
Religion is a really a very powerful tool.

You are closer to atheism than christianity. It seems you are getting tired of christianity everyday. Let's see who you are in the next 12 months. Sounds like you will be a full blown ahteist by then

Islam › Re: Signs Of A Good End by Empiree: 4:34pm On Dec 16, 2018

najib632:
Ok I agree what said was wrong but I just don't like seeing the sahaba or salaf being insulted. Truth to be said I don't know anything about them, I only know the first three names on the list, and that Ibrahim Inyas was a propergator of Innovations, Ahmad Tijani claimed to be an ahlul-bayt and Ibrahim Inyas was his student

do you have evidence of highlighted statement and can you give example?.

najib632:
Bringing about any practice that's not from the instructions of the Qur'an, or Sunnah, or from the sahabah or salaf. That's what I understand.

I hope you understand this has major implication by your definition of innovation?. By your definition you provided, all sects are guilty of innovation.

Islam › Re: Signs Of A Good End by Empiree: 4:23pm On Dec 16, 2018

aril:
Don't waist your time on him. Did you see him present any hadith or prove about his claims all these while. Yet he'll answer you like he knows it all. Watch the video i showed him. That lecture is directly to him, i really like the way the imam put it.

I hope he looks in the mirror at the end.

he will never watch the video. He always have problems with his java phone and always doesnt have data to listen to good lecture. He only has data to talk trash.

aril:
What is your school of thought?

Jabatiyyah school of tot

Islam › Re: See What This Muslims Did To Christians In Blackburn. by Empiree: 3:52pm On Dec 16, 2018

true2god:
You don't have an understanding of the word OXYMORON. In Islam, the kafir are considered dirty and Muslims are not meant to accept give from them. Allah will not like Muslims to collect any gift from the kafir. Do you get that?

smh. you wanna teach me about oxymoron now?. I took your word for you for saying your are "dirty kafir". Go and critically wash your kafir dirty hands and we will accept your gifts grin

Islam › Re: See What This Muslims Did To Christians In Blackburn. by Empiree: 1:29pm On Dec 16, 2018

true2god:
I asked the right question bro! Both of us know that no sane christian will go to Saudi Arabia, Iran or Sudan and distribute gift to Muslims during Islamic festivals without being lynch by state sanctioned terror groups; it can never happen without a consequence. How can a dirty kafir give Muslims gifts with their filthy hands without ablutions to wash off the filth of the kafir?

I will ask you again, can Muslims in Saudi Arabia, Iran and Sudan present Christmas gist to christians when the states had even declared Christmas as being haram?

Since you considered yourselves filthy and dirty, how could a sane muslim collect gifts from filthy, dirty fellows who move their bowel but don't want to their hands and butt?. If this is what you are, then, I seriously encourage muslims to reject your gifts and ban you from giving gifts until you abide by moral and purity code because this is unhealthy for muslims to eat from food prepared by filthy dirty hands that was probably soak and wet with dung during preparation of Xmas meal. grin

Therefore, this is violation of health code.

Islam › Re: Islamically Incorrect Words Common Among The Yorubas by Empiree: 6:15am On Dec 16, 2018

Biodun556:
Sheikh Adam Alilory made the no 5 claim. I have once listened to the audio.

I think i remembered the lecture you are talking about. I have listened to something similar but i am not sure the way op portrayed it. Sheikh Adam's approach is different from what op said. But i will still prefer you post that lecture bcus it was long ago i listened to the audio if you have it. Thanks

Islam › Re: Islamically Incorrect Words Common Among The Yorubas by Empiree: 5:04am On Dec 16, 2018

Biodun556:
The no 5 was confirmed by Shiekh Adam Alilory.

can you post me the lecture please?

Islam › Re: See What This Muslims Did To Christians In Blackburn. by Empiree: 5:00am On Dec 16, 2018*

bashir1451:
What do you have to say about how we relate with our Christian Neighbours here in the North, When ever they are celebrating Xmas they take their animals to Islamic abattoirs for slaughtering just so we can't refuse their Foods as they don't refuse ours?

Yes, i know. You can eat from their food even if it is not for their festival. It is clear this one is halal. Again, the same principle i mentioned earlier applies when it comes to food prepared for their festivals. They want you to eat from their food that's they ask muslim to do the slaughtering.

Rejecting their food may signal negative view. Take the food if you want and give homeless people out there if you don't feel comfortable eating food prepared for thier festivals. You are also free to reject their food prepared for their festivals like xmas etc but pls do so with integrity and love in your heart for them.

Like "I am sorry Mr Johnson, i wish I could eat from your food if it is not for this xmas etc due to my islamic faith, i could accept and eat your food it is outside your festivals. Thank you very much. I truly appreciate your kind gesture" etc

So next time, your neighbor knows he won't bring you food prepared for their festivals except before or after.

But me personally, i have no time for this explanation. Thats why i said, save your time and accept the food and thank them but you dont have to eat it. There are bunch of hungry homeless and orphans out there you can give the food. As far as i am concerned, this is a very simple issue. You do not have to accept my opinion. It depends on how we view things. But make sure that you and your family can discern islamic festivals from non-muslim festivals. Also note that there are christians who are rigid and stubborn. They see muslims as unbelievers and will not eat from eld food. So it goes both ways.

I never ate food prepared for festivals other than muslim festivals. But i do accept their food and gifts and i have nothing to do with the food. The moment i stepped out of the arena, i gave it homeless people on the street. And i do not encourage muslims to eat food prepared for non muslim festivals with exception of what Quran highlighted, that in case of hunger you may eat haram.

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Islam › Re: Adam Abdullah Al Ilory Suffiyun Wa Ashariyun by Empiree: 12:05am On Dec 16, 2018

aadoiza:
I don't know the creed you profess, but you're doing an awful job propagating it.

he's a jahil. Don't think for a second he knows Islam. He doesn't. He's trying to fit himself in position of alim.

See his discriptions below. Don't take him serious.

Islam › Re: See What This Muslims Did To Christians In Blackburn. by Empiree: 9:58pm On Dec 15, 2018

true2god:
That's not a very smart response. Let me ask you again, can Muslims in Saudi Arabia, Iran and Sudan replicate this gesture?

your question is wrong. What you should asked was "can non-Muslims in Saudi Arabia, Iran, Sudan replicate this gesture in majority muslim countries?"

Those muslims in UK live in majority "Christian country"

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Islam › Re: Shaykh Adam Abdullah Al-ilory by Empiree(op): 9:54pm On Dec 15, 2018

Son of Sheikh Daud Mawlid

https://m.facebook.com/latestislamiclectures/?tsid=0.49471805281668213&source=result

Islam › Re: See What This Muslims Did To Christians In Blackburn. by Empiree: 3:55pm On Dec 15, 2018

true2god:
This act is by far better than attacking the kufar. Can Muslims in Saudi Arabia, Iran and Sudan replicate this gesture? I am not sure.

This is how we take over your churches in EU especially UK. So don't worry in months to come, you may hear the church is converted to mosque by kindness act of muslims grin

Islam › Re: See What This Muslims Did To Christians In Blackburn. by Empiree: 2:55pm On Dec 15, 2018

Nafizzey:
If one feels he can eat it the food and he recite bismillah and eat it is it wrong?

Shariah ruling is that Allah's Name is pronounced BEFORE SLAUGHTER. This is what I understood all my life. Exception that applies to eating meat (food) already prepared by Jews and CHRISTIANS is that, even though Quran says their foods are halal for us to eat, scholars said in as much as they follow their sharia (by saying God's name before slaughtering animal.

However, I heard recently that we can eat their food already prepared by saying "Bismillah". Jews seem to follow their halal guidelines though. It is called kosher. Kosher is another word for halal in their religion. They follow halal diets than Christians. So the former ruling is classical and more acceptable. The later ruling is an exception (absence of halal).

#myopinion

Let's get one thing straight. Haram and halal don't apply to non meat like pasta, beans, rice, gari etc. These are halal by default regardless of who prepared them. However, objection by antagonists is that even if their food is not meat but it is specifically prepared for their religious festivals like Hanukkah or Christmas it is Haram for muslims to eat it. I agree with this. But my point is that since they are your neighbors and they offer you food prepared for their religious festivals, this is a good gesture from them because you too offer them eld meals and they accept and eat.

So my concern is you should take their food but you don't have to eat it. And of course you can always eat it if you have no food to eat for survival. In this sense it is halal bcus survival supercedes everything else. Muslims must observe boundaries.

Islam › Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by Empiree: 1:14pm On Dec 15, 2018

*Hear what Prof. Tam David West had to say about Gen. Buhari, unbelievable.!*

*¤ Buhari is one of the cleanest men I have ever met in my life. If anybody wants me to dislike Buhari, such person should give me an example of his corruption. I will run away from him totally. But right now, there is no evidence. On the contrary, the more they attack him on this issue of corruption, the more they are making him Gold bier.*

*¤ I will give two examples:*

*¤ One, Babangida thought Buhari was making a lot of money on counter trading, so he set up two independent bodies to investigate counter trading.*

*¤ One of the bodies was headed by J.K. Randle, while the second was headed by Prof. Aboyade of blessed memory. None of them found anything against Buhari. None. I attested before the two bodies.*

*¤ Great Aboyade commission was digging into Buhari’s counter trading, J.K. Randle, who’s still alive, did the same thing.*

*¤ But both of them produced reports that showed that counter trading was so clean and was making so much money for Nigeria.*

*¤ Then two, soon after Obasanjo was sworn in, there was a social function for him in Lagos or so, then surprisingly, some people tried to praise Buhari, Obasanjo said: ‘don’t praise him, I have not probed him.’ It was after that incident that Obasanjo set up Dr. Haroun’s probe panel of the Petroleum Trust Fund (PTF).*

*¤ Haroun probed PTF inside out. Buhari was discovered to be as clean as snow.*

*¤ You know, why he agreed to be the head of PTF was not to condone what Abacha was doing then, but he saw it as a way of serving the country and he did well. I have the record.*

*¤ Haroun came out and said PTF account was audited every year while Federal Government account was not audited in 36 years.*

*¤ You know Babangida detained Buhari for 40 months after he overthrew him.*

*¤ Buhari’s mother died while he was in detention and as a Muslim, I expected Babangida to rise above politics and allow Buhari to go bury his mother. If he was released, I am sure he wouldn’t have run away.*

*¤ Buhari was not allowed to go bury his mother. But in the night after the woman was buried, Babangida released Buhari.*

*¤ His son died, the same thing happened.*

*¤ Anyway, after Buhari came out of detention, he told Babangida to tell the world about his corruption. The records are there.*

*¤ The same thing happened with the PTF. He told Obasanjo to publish the report of the panel, but Obasanjo could not publish it because it was a certificate of honour for Buhari. If that Haroun’s report had any page in it that indicted Buhari, Obasanjo would have used that to disqualify Buhari from contesting against him.*

*¤ Buhari is clean. He is not corrupt.*

¤ To show how Buhari loves Nigeria, he doesn’t like spending Nigerian money frivolously. When Shehu Shagari’s NPN government was overthrown, as Buhari was assigned to head the Military government of 1983, he never changed any chair or curtain in Dodan Barracks. Buhari used what Shagari was using until his government was also overthrown by IBB and co.

¤ As minister, our total pocket money under Buhari was N200 per month. You could spend less than N200 without accounting for it, but anything above N200, you must account for it.

¤ When he increased the money to N250, we clapped for him at the executive council.

*¤ Now, as a former governor of the defunct north-eastern state, former minister of petroleum, former head of state, former executive chairman of PTF, Buhari has no house in Abuja.*

*¤ If he goes to Abuja, he stays in a private hotel. He has no house either uphill or downhill, apart from his house in Kaduna.*

*Nigerians, We Need BUHARI by 2019.*

*PROFESSOR TAM DAVID WEST, Former Nigeria's Petroleum Minister.*

Islam › Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by Empiree: 1:01pm On Dec 15, 2018

najib632:
please I need evidence of what you are accusing him of saying because I really respect that man.

you mean alcohol allegation?. I was surprised when i watched it. This is first one i watched. Watch the first 1 min.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_O4kZPgPSY

but i thought it was edited and i found this short clip

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugivUSFgip8

I tried to give him excuse but i can't figure it out. "I drink beer and I am proud of it". It is something to brag about in public?

Islam › Re: See What This Muslims Did To Christians In Blackburn. by Empiree: 2:02am On Dec 15, 2018

aadoiza:
I prefer this your method. I have tried advocating it in the past but our brothers were always quick to throw it into the gutters. Some Muslims have lived all their lives amongst non-muslims who are friends and relatives of theirs. So they just shut out relatives now abi. It is very easy for scholars in Saudi to just conjure up fatwas and expect all Muslims to comply with them forgetting it's not in all places their fatwas can readily be complied with.

Usually those brothers that oppose this have never left their comfort zones. They are just reading text theoretically and they conclude in their mind that they have fountains of knowledge. They take Saudi scholar's fatawa errors free not realizing that some of these scholars are programmed to say what they say.

Some of them do not explore the world. So they base their fatwa on rigid interpretation base on what goes on in their region. Sometimes i dont blame them but the moment you suggest opposing view, they should look into it and accept it after review. But no, in most cases, they have made up their mind that they are right just bcus they attached "Quran and sunnah/salaf" to themselves. They dont realize this is a prank on them.

They have closed ijtihad. Sura 29:20 enjoins travels and exploration for knowledge. Say: "Travel through the earth and observe how He began creation. ....

Islam › Re: See What This Muslims Did To Christians In Blackburn. by Empiree: 5:36pm On Dec 14, 2018

aadoiza:
If we all took this route, would it be wrong?

Well, I left the decision to my reading audience to weigh in on my view. I am simply encouraging middle part and it worked well for me for years without conflict with my non-Muslim neighbors and my relationship with Allah.

Islam › Re: See What This Muslims Did To Christians In Blackburn. by Empiree: 2:34am On Dec 14, 2018*

Cases like this is a matter of qiyas depending on region we find ourselves. Qiyas doesn't have to be universal at all.

If you live in Western world and you work for non-Muslims especially white people, during their holidays: Thanksgiving, Xmas, Gregorian new year, your boss will give you double pay or bonus in form of cash and kind as holiday gifts. I am talking about anywhere from $250-$500 depending on your relationship with them.

It is a matter of exposure. They do this even if they know you are Muslim. You can't say that you can not accept non-Muslim food or you can not eat non Muslim food but you can accept non-Muslim money given to you in cash. It is the same. To reject one and accept the other is double standards. Islam encourages flexibility in areas like this by using your God given wisdom.

They will definitely offer you food. They give you whole turkey for Thanksgiving along with cash. Rich white people usually do this for their employees.

Now, a non Muslim who do this and also give you food most likely doesn't know what you believe in terms of diet. I have always stand my ground that you should kindly accept their food. It doesn't mean you have to eat it. You can always give the food to the poor. That's a form of charity from you as a Muslim. I am talking from experience. There is no need to debate them about "I can't eat food prepared for their religious celebration" etc. This is a waste of time.

Take the food if you can and thank them. They not gonna follow you to your house to make sure you eat from it. You do what you have to do with the food. If you can reject their food why not reject their money?.

I worked as a nurse taking care of a white man for 5yrs straight. Every yr, during Thanksgiving and Christmas, his daughter gave me whole turkey and $300 cash. Also brought me cooked food they prepared for their Thanksgiving. She did the same for Xmas every yr until her father passed away 5yrs ago.

What did I do with the turkey?. First, turkey is halal provided it is slaughtered according to sharia. But we know the turkeys sold at the supermarkets are not halal. I always accepted her turkey every yr and took them home and gave them to my CHRISTIAN neighbor but I kept the money grin

So Islam doesn't frown upon this since there is no clear daleel that forbids us from taking gifts from them. Now, I am aware of Ibn Qayyum's statements on this issue. That unfortunately was his sincere opinion but it is not binding. He gave his fatwa to saveguard religion. There is nothing bad in that. However, acceptable opinion is that if you live next to non muslim neighbor and they have been nice to you, they greet you on your eld etc, there is absolutely no reason to reject their food. Accepting their food is not tantamount to agreeing with their religion or religious festivals.

Accept the food to save face and give the food to charity. This is what I do. But those muslims who have not been exposed to multicultures and multiracial environment or diversity, they are gonna have problems with my approach.

It is a matter of hikma when dealing with non-Muslims. Always remember that they greet us on our Elds. There is nothing wrong with greeting them or returning greetings in their festivals, but I don't encourage muslims to initiate the greeting. What Islam concerns about is DO NOT JOIN THEM IN WORSHIP. This is transgression. As for giving them charitable gifts like this one posted by op, I call it "strategy". Islam encourages whatever you can do to peacefully coerce them to come to Islam. They have successfully used this approach in the UK which resulted to having many Churches converted to masajid. This same happens in USA. It is a strategic matter. But I prefer that a Muslim should greet them with generic term like "happy holidays" rather than merry Xmas.

I also condemn extremists who in the name of "peaceful coexistence" attend their Church services on Xmas. These type of muslims have crossed the line.

I also worked for a Pakistani muslim Man 15yrs ago. He had CHRISTIAN employees amongst us. I can still remember them. Tiffany and Danny. On Eld fitr and Eld adha, my boss would give them cash bonus for our muslim holidays. So this is a matter of qiyas, and no position is binding. All in all, muslims must not compromise his religion for worldly gain.

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