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Islam › Re: Wallahi One Of The Best Place I Have Been To Is Nigeria - Mufti Ismael Musa Menk by Empiree: 2:54pm On Dec 01, 2018

najib632:
Don't mind the brother I am also a salafi, the problem with our sect is that we condemn everybody and it's not nice, Allah will never put you into the hell fire because of your sect but he will put you into hell for following falsehood and I innovations without reason. I choose to be a salafi because I don't like the idea of following only one school of thought one should follow what ever he likes from any school of thought. The great Salahdeen was a Sufi and a saint in shaa Allah, but Wallahi there will be some salafi extremists that condemn Sufism even though only a few practice innovations. We're always condemning instead of promoting the unity we claim to be bringing.

Islam › Re: ...... by Empiree: 12:50pm On Dec 01, 2018

Smh for those people. They annoying angry

Islam › Re: Qur'an: Human Rights, Freedom & Equity by Empiree: 12:43pm On Dec 01, 2018

AbdelKabir:
You dey mind the confused individual? He doesn't know the difference....

Don't worry. Time will tell again. So much about "following Salaf". Salaf were not always literalists.

Islam › Re: Qur'an: Human Rights, Freedom & Equity by Empiree: 12:41pm On Dec 01, 2018

usermane:
Victims of Sharia & Freedom of Speech Violation - Aasia Bibi

5 verses have been shown, instructing Muhammad to ignore the blasphemers and trust in God. Let see from the following case if Muslims honor these instructions.

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You have not answer my question on freedom of speech. Why would Germany persecute holocaust denials for expressing their view?. This is why I continue to ignore your nonsense like this. Muslim govt has the right to persecute blasphemers. Just because the prophet (saw) showed mercy or pardoned those who violated him does not mean they should have field day in this day and age. There must be checks and balances. Punishment doesn't have to be death sentence.

Now this just happened few days ago to Marc Lamont Hill. He was fired a day after given a speech supporting Palestinians freedom. CNN portrayed his speech to mean wiping off Israel off the map. They twisted his statement and now he's fired for expressing his view. So you may be hypocritical for speaking only about persecuting anti Muhammad speeches. This is no exception.

So I support govt to punish whoever made blasphemous statement about our prophet (saw) regardless of what you think. This is not fanatism.

Politics › Re: Boko Haram Terrorists Flee On Sighting Troops In Borno State. Photos by Empiree: 1:25am On Dec 01, 2018

Islam › Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by Empiree: 1:56pm On Nov 29, 2018

Some people asked for this sheik's contact in this platform before. Here you can have it

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Islam › Re: Is Mawlid An Nabiy Worth Celebrating? by Empiree: 1:42pm On Nov 29, 2018

Rashduct4luv:
We are talking about Mawlid, wetin concern Saudi Scholars & Qur'an competition now?

He fasted on the day he was born and this was a Monday not 12 Rabbi Al-Awwal!

The Prophet was not born on 12 Rabbi Al-Awwal and he most likely died that day! So you are celebrating his death just like the Christians!

Your Oga at the top deserves whatever abuse he gets! He also abuses Scholars like Albani, Bukhari, etc. He is a confirmed Ahl- Sunnah antagonist who misinterprets texts and sometimes literally translates text inappropriately. So why won't he be abused!

If you need my view on Qur'an Competition you can open another thread but here Mawlid is an innovation in every way!

Mawlid is not celebrating the dead. I have made my point clear that he said he was born on Monday. If you wanna talk about rabiu awwal then you still have more bidiah to deal with. Hijira calendar is one of them which someone opened a thread about and raised the question or in general thread.

You are free not to celebrate it. Unless you wanna be unfair which you are doing, those who celebrate Mawlid claim to celebrate birth, arrival and for blessing us with nabi not death.

As for sheik Habeeb what you said here showed that you people lack understanding. Where did he abuse sheik Albany and imam bukhari?. Subhanallah I don't know what you consider "abuse". Even si.no who disagree with him said a while back that he did not abuse personality but collection of their work. If that's what you consider abuse, I don't know what else to tell you. Stop calling people innovators. It will not get you anywhere. You will achieve zero benefit.

bro, i am done back and forth on this Mawlid issue. You may only talk about ilm Kalam but I stand on ilm Kalam, ilm sharia and ilm haqiqa.

So I'm done. But I will like to have evidence that Sheikh habeeb attacked personality or abused those men. I beg to disagree because I watched most of his lectures at that time.

Islam › Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by Empiree: 7:22am On Nov 29, 2018

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Islam › Re: 8 Good Reasons Why Islam Encourages Polygamy by Empiree: 9:25pm On Nov 28, 2018

olasaad:
Salamualikum warahmatullah wabarakatul. Pls don't misunderstood me, I'm not against polygamy, I am just talking about the way men practice it. May almighty Allah guide us more

walaikum salaam warahmatullah wabarakatuh. Really, aside from abusers, it will still be difficult to satisfy women either way. I read where you said husband should build a house, car etc for his first wife before taking another woman. Not all men can do this even if they have the means. You know another concern pops up which is, the issue of trust and faithfulness to her husband. Some prefer to have all his wives live with him under the same roof but large building and they live in their respective apartment.

Anyway, i dont think i have energy for that. I will rather build house for her separately sharp sharp to make my life easy cuzz, me can't deal with jealous women at the same time before they smash bottle for my head grin

Amin to your dua

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Islam › Re: 8 Good Reasons Why Islam Encourages Polygamy by Empiree: 8:41pm On Nov 28, 2018

olasaad:
And that we never happened in my lineage. Moreover I just used myself as example to relates to what's going on in Muslims women's world.

So don't bring your mouth to issues that doesn't concern you. Amebo

Salaam. Let's be real. It is a condition women have to deal with. There are many reasons a man takes on second wife that neither husband nor wife can control. Isn't this better than your husband use you for prositut!ion?.

Sometimes first wife starts having problems with childbirth after given birth to 1 or 2 babies and doctor advise not to attempt to get pregnant either for yrs or forever but husband wants more children. Do the math. Obviously he will get another woman lawfully or unlawfully. You just have to accept Allah's qadar. I know how you feel but it is just what it is. And dont even think for a second it is enjoyment for men. No, it is fedex to their grave grin

Islam › Re: Qur'an: Human Rights, Freedom & Equity by Empiree: 4:28pm On Nov 28, 2018

Rashduct4luv:
Subhanallah!

How can you compare a literalist with an Ahl-Sunnah?

so you want me to quote you?. Aren't you literalist?. You think I'm a fool?. Don't you people display your literalism here all the time?. Maybe you have another definition?. Opposite of literal interpretation is metaphorical. And many times you and your buddies rejected some of our metaphorical ayah and Hadith. You said "we take the word as it is without question". Why are you backing away after I equated you with quraniyun?

Islam › Re: Is Mawlid An Nabiy Worth Celebrating? by Empiree: 4:21pm On Nov 28, 2018*

Rashduct4luv:
In the name of Allaah, Indeed all praise is due to Him and peace and blessings be upon the best of mankind, our Prophet Muhammad – sal Allaahu alayhi wa sallam.

Due to the lack of authentic evidences, the people of innovation use various methods in trying to justify their innovation. Amongst the methods used, is selectively transmitting sections of the speech of the people of knowledge. Recently, an image has been broadcast selectively quoting the words of Ibn Taymiyyah, challenging the “Wahabis” to “atleast [sic] listen to your leaders.”

Even more strange is that the Soofiyyah would seek to quote the words of Ibn Taymiyyah, whose opposition to them and their innovations is known.

Below is a translation of the words of Ibn Taymiyyah followed by points of benefit from his speech.

He said in his book: ‘Iqtidhaa as-Siraat al-Mustaqeem’ under the Chapter: ‘Innovated Festival Periods – Taking the birthday of the Prophet (sal Allaahu alayhi wa sallam) as an ‘Eid emulating the Christians in the Eid of the birthday of ‘Eesa (alayhi salaam)’:-

((What some of the people have innovated, either emulating the Christians in the birthday of ‘Eesa (alayhi salaam) or out of love for the Prophet (sal Allaahu alayhi wa sallam) and honouring him. Perhaps Allaah might reward them for this love and their striving to come to a decision, but not for the Bid’ah (innovation) of taking the day of the birth of the Prophet (sal Allaahu alayhi wa sallam) as an ‘Eid. Along with the difference between the people with regards to his birth, this (celebration) was not done by the early generations of pious scholars even though factors that would have necessitating [the Mawlid] were present and there was a lack of any factors that would prevent them from doing so if it had indeed been good.

If this [the Mawlid] was genuinely good or the correct opinion then the pious scholars of the early generations (may Allaah be pleased with them) would have been more entitled to it than us. They had greater love for the Prophet (sal Allaahu alayhi wa sallam) and were more honouring of him than us; they were more eager upon goodness.

Indeed, from the perfection of loving and honouring him is in following him, being obedient to him, following his command, reviving his Sunnah both in secrecy and open, spreading that which he was sent with, striving regarding that with one’s heart, hand and tongue. For indeed this is the path of the first of the early generations [who accepted his message] from the Muhaajiroon and the Ansaar, and those that followed them in goodness.

Most of them who you find eager upon such innovations (Bid’ah) despite their good intention and striving – for these two things reward is hoped (i.e. their good intention and striving) – however you find them weak in following the command of the Messenger (sal Allaahu alayhi wa sallam) in that which they were commanded to be energetic and enthusiastic. They are like a person who adorns the Mus.haf (a copy of the Qur’an) yet does not read what is in it; or they are like somebody who reads [what is in the Qur’an] but never follows it; or somebody who adorns the Masjid yet does not pray in it or only prays a little in it; or like a person who takes extravagant prayer beads and mats. Such apparent adornments which have not been legislated and are accompanied with showing off, pride and being pre-occupied away from what is actually legislated – this all corrupts the state of the person who is like this.

Kitab and Sunnah are silent! But who legislated Mawlid for you? Allaah, Muhammad or the Sh'ia?

Moreover there are several evidences for Bid'ia in the deen!

Which Suffis dey quote Saheeh hadith? No be one of your oga at the top abused Bukhari, Albani and co! Where is the evidence that the Prophet was born on that day? And are we even to celebrate birthdays in the first place?

Must people gather to say Salawat? Suffis are fond of innovations! And they are fond of involving Salafy Scholars in their crimes.
To you is your Bid'ia and to us is our deen!

I don't need to be told the hate in your heart. You said Sufis never quote sahih Hadith, really?. You said said must you gather to make salawat on the prophet and at the same time you call it bidiah. Where is authentic narration that forbids gathering of Dua and dhikr?. And again, you people quote twisted narration that suits you from the book of Ibn Taymiyyah. Even at that, he still said Allaah may reward them for their love and intention of honoring the prophet. This is contrary to you people today saying there is no reward in it altogether.

Aside, ibn Taymiyyah was not Salaf. He came much much after them. So again, if I'm to accept his quote from his book for saying Mawlid is immitating CHRISTIAN of Jesus bday, I ask again, why would Nabi (saw) said "it is the day I was born" ?. This is indication of importance of day of birth to be honored. And there were ulama before ibn Taymiyyah (ra) who celebrated Mawlid.

Besides, Quran itself said to honor the prophet which ibn Taymiyyah had no problem with. His problem (according to your reference) is singling out a day. Well, there are still muslims who do Mawlid nabi multiple times a year to avoid being tagged bidiah for choosing only rabiu awwal. Yet you'd still call them "alhubidiah".

I'm really not gonna engage you on gathering of dhikr. I already seen your dilemma to that effect on eld. Eld is gathering of dhikr which some of you tagged bidiah. Let's just say you guys are conditioned to abuse "bidiah" by tagging anyone who goes against your manhaj. I see them on FB all the time. Once they see someone giving lecture and he appears to be Sufi, they don't even listen to his sermons. They quick to leave comments "awón alhubidiah", "awón alawo", awón onijalabi". This is another fitna going on right now. If this is correct to you, then, you guys constitute nuisance in the community. Example of this was video of sheikh Habeeb yesterday speaking on killing of Jamal Khashoggi. Most of the boys commenting did not watch just bcus it is Sheikh Habeeb, all they had to say was "OON - Olodo of Nigeria". This is Sunnah right?.

Mawlid is not reprehensible act. If ibn Taymiyyah said there is reward in honoring the prophet, then, this is another evidence against you people who say gathering of Mawlid is nonsense and not rewardable.

Far as I am concerned, the last time I was in gathering on Mawlid was 1996 and I have absolutely no reason to condemn it because what I learned from there is still in my head today. This is beneficial knowledge. There are some things they dotn teach you in class. You learn then randomly like any religious gathering like mawlid, waasi etc. So it was a stage play about "conversion event of sayyidina Umar ibn Khattab(ra). And i acted 'alfa' who taught Fatima and Sahid sura Toha. This was learned on Mawlid. It was a stage play inf front of dignitaries in 1996. So you wanna tell me we were doing nonsense. I didnt learn this in class, either primary school, ile keu, secondary school, even when i was in college in ilorin. I learned more about islamic history through gatherings and my independent online searches. They are no taught in schools.

So now, since you said choosing a day to celebrate Mawlid is bidah, is it fair to say that choosing a specific period of time for Quran competition which was started by the same Sufi you criticized in Indonesia in 1960 now championed by Saudi Arabia, is bid'ah?. Be sincere?. Saudi wahhabi/salafi nation state hijacked Qur'an competition event from the Sufis. Besides, there is hadith that specifically mentioned 3 occasions(events) which prices are given. Quran competition is not one of them. But upon my research on Islamqa website few yrs ago they said it is a "good deed" despite obvious evidence against it. Isn't this double standard?. If this is acceptable why is Mawlid not?. Is it bcus Saudi do it then it is Sunnah?. Here is the hadith

Hazrat Abu Hurrarah, reported, which has been carried by all the six authentic books of Hadith, the Holy Prophet (peace be upon him) allowed as a prize money in only three cases i.e. races of the camels, horses and spear-playing which is known in our society as Naiza Bazi.

So clearly, this leaves annual Quran competition, championed by salafi today to be bidiah. Is it a waste of time?. No. Is it rewardable?. Yes. Saudi govt or whoever organize this every will be rewarded by Allah for their sacrifices. But it is still bidia but you will be forced to accept it as bidiah hassana contrary to your ideology that bidiah is not divided. Don't be surprised a day is coming when Mawlid will be officially recognized and celebrated in Mecca just as they took credit for Quran competition. It is only matter of time. At that time, you so gonna be sorry.

Islam › Re: Qur'an: Human Rights, Freedom & Equity by Empiree: 2:16pm On Nov 28, 2018

Rashduct4luv:
Is this an oxymoron or a paradox?

A literalist is a person who adheres to the literal representation of a statement or law.

A Salafist/Salafy/Wahabi/Ahl-Sunnah is a person who follows the teaching of the Prophet Muhammad according to the understanding of his companions and their students!

Now, how can a literalist be a Salafist?

if you know you know grin

this guy also holds on to literal representation and he submits to the text as you do. "We hear and we obey" is what he believes.

Islam › Re: Is Mawlid An Nabiy Worth Celebrating? by Empiree: 2:13pm On Nov 28, 2018

Rashduct4luv:
Sometimes you type as if you are a kid! You expect an evidence that specifically forbids Mawlid right? Even the smallest student knows every human is fallible and this does not exempt scholars! Scholars can make mistakes! And this your ascertion on Ibn Taymiyyah is more likely a big lie!

big lie?. Onus is on you

As for celebrating your Mawlid: you can also bring your evidences that specifically mentions Mawlid as an act of worship and the evidences that specifies how Mawlid is to be done!

good. Maybe by now you can now understand. Sharia is the standard of judging act in Islam. Not your whims. Since you have no evidence condemning Mawlid, it means kitab and Sunnah are silent. What does shari'a teaches you about things that Quran is silent on?. Go back and read. Mawlid is not essentially act of worship. It falls under good deed just like annual Qur'an competition where they give prices. What's the issue with you people if muslims gather to send salawat on the prophet, narrate seera, narrate Islamic history, give food and everyone is happy?. So you need Hadith to teach you good deeds again when it is all clear from the books?. Again, the only way you can validly refute Mawlid is you bring evidence since you are all about evidence. I don't want to hear you just talk talk talk.

As for what i said that it is more Sunnah to send blessings on Fridays! Here is the Evidence!

The Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) said:

“Of your best days is Friday. On it Adam was created; and on it his (soul) was taken; and on it is the blowing (of the Trumpet); and on it is the Swoon. Therefore, increase in sending your Salat upon me, for your salat upon me are presented to me.” They said: “O Messenger of Allah! And how will our Salat upon you be presented to you after you have perished?” He replied: “Indeed, Allah, the Mighty and Sublime, has prohibited the earth from (destroying) the bodies of the Prophets.” [Narrated by Abu Dawud in his Sunan #1047, Ibn Khuzaimah #1733 and Ibn Hibban #910 in their respective Saheehs, and Hakim in Mustadrak 1/278 He said, It is authentic on the conditions of Bukhari and Zahabi agreed.]

I know this. I knew you would quote this. It is Sufis that usually quote this hadith. But you don't understand what I meant earlier. When Sufi man quoted this Hadith to single out importance of Friday, one of your shuyukh said there is nothing special about Friday. To be fair, it was one of the audience that asked on al-huda TV and the sheikh downgraded it's importance just because the questioner mentioned that Sufi give importance to Friday. This side. What if Mawlid falls on Friday, would you still have objection?. You talk as if Mawlid falls on solar calendar which is static.

Based on this Imam Shafe’e used to say, “I love to send plenty of salat upon the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) all the time and I love it more so on the day of Jumuah.” [Kitabul Umm 1/546]

it is Sufi that still do this. When was the last time you people gather to do salawat on Friday for the prophet?. I have said before that your problem is "Sufi". That's what clouds your judgement and place hate in your heart for them. And now you would claim Salaf for yourself.

Those are our Salafs and we are Salafys and Ahl-Sunnah...

I said it. Now since you said those are the Salaf. When last did you see Salafi people do salawat as you mentioned above?. Who is now Salaf now?. Sufis or the Salafis?. I never seen Salafis people gather to make salawat on the prophet. Instead, you accused people who do this of bidiah.

Islam › Re: Is Mawlid An Nabiy Worth Celebrating? by Empiree: 1:46pm On Nov 28, 2018

aadoiza:
If we truly believe that Islam is not just a religion but also a way of life, then you'd agree that we all are practising the adulterated form of it in one way or another. And yes, the core as you mentioned above has fairly remained the same. However, Islam encapsulates an awful lot more than five pillars.

Islam, as I see it today, is being run like international politics. The Saudis would rather take as enemies and bomb their fellow Muslims over ideological differences. Flexing their rotten muscles over their brothers, and go ahead to take as allies the unbelievers.

A salafiyah imam that I respect so much, till today, say those with Sufi creed would end up in janam, as in all of'em, to atone for their numerous sins. And on this, I vehemently and completely disagree with him. A whole bunch of Sufi guys say if you don't pray through a revered a sheikh, Allah will never answer your prayers. The Shia have taken as an obligation to curse the Sahaba they deem, to the best of their knowledge, unworthy. Did the prophet (SAW) teach us all these sentimentalities and more? I don't believe he taught all these nonsense, and if he (SAW) didn't, would ask these not have been a culmination of adulteration?

Yes, Islam is beyond 5 daily prayers, zakat, Ramadan, Hajj. There are nawafil activities. Nawafil are not just two Rakat salah. Naflat include all acts of worship and good deeds. They are used to cover holes in our defective obligatory practices.

I have talked to Shia about cursing sahaba. It is a shameful thing to do. Salafis are now doing the same to their fellow muslims. As for Sufi, the idea of praying to God through sheikh, I don't think I heard that. You probably mean tawasul. Tawasul was taught by the Qur'an and Sunnah but some people go too far.

Example of tawasul is buy saying "Ólóhún wo ola anobi" etc. This is allowed because we actually do this in prayers when we recite solati Ibrahimiya before taslim. Solati Ibrahimiya is tawasul. Nabi (saw) prayed to God by virtues of nabi ibrahim (as). So we can say "Ólóhún wo ola xyz sheikh if you believe the sheikh is pious but it is not mandatory. But to say prayer is not answered unless and until you mention name of sheik is rubbish.

One again, if you are confused, just stick to the basics which are 5 daily prayers, zakat ramadan, Hajj and do dhikr as much as you can. That's it. You don't need to involve with anyone after this. Knowledge goes up gradually as we go along. Iman also go up and down.

A man was in New York few yrs ago. He contacted sheikh Daud Alfa Nla in Nigeria that he's confused about Islam. Sheik's advise was that he should stick to only fard of Islam that I mentioned earlier and do nothing else except one dhikr which is he should keep chanting Allah every day and night and cry for guidance. The man did this for about a yr and Allah gave him hidaya. He called nija and informed the sheikh that he's contented with Islam.

The Salafi are gonna call this bidah. They gonna tell you that nabi, sahaba, tabin and tabin tabin didn't chant Allah Allah Allah repeatedly. If they say this to you, just ignore them. That's their level of understanding. Again, don't be confused. Just stick to the basics and you will be fine.

Islam › Re: ...... by Empiree: 12:56am On Nov 28, 2018*

LadunaI:
I know you're the type who can't overlook their outburst without a "fight" lol. Atleast that give alternative opinion, and people reading can make their final decision on their own on many issue being discussed.

I will check the video out.

Just learned a little while ago from a video clip that some Alfas charge fees, hefty fees to give sermons at firdau?. Haba, in my opinion, this is nasty. These are the people that give puritan nerve to speak.

I learned this from conjunction lectures by sheikh muyideen Bello and Ustaz Jamiu Adegunwa. One of the speakers said when Aisha Abimbola passed away, her family called different Alfas. First Alfa called charged heavily almost half a million to give lecture. They turned him down and called others who also charged fee before given speech until they settled for the least fee of 200k.

Haba, this is what some self proclaimed Alhusunnah people antagonized and of course non-alhsunnal Alfas too condemned this practice. Now they go too far all in the name of money. Common now, this is sad moment for the family of the deceased. Well, they should understand that their niyah was for the money. They have no good deeds recorded for this. They shouldn't have to burden family of the dead. This is period of mourning for them. This is not like ikomo. Parents of newborn are happy to spend. That's normal but janaza, firdaus etc, in my opinion, it is wrong.

I don't know what you think about this but this really hit me hard. This is what my sheikh used to condemn back in the days. That's why he doesn't go out with jammah to do anything. I feel sad learning about this right now. Common now. This is not igbeyawo, ikomo, isile or similar events. Besides, hiring Alfa to give speech at firdaus is not fard. It is people that hire such Alfa that I blame. These are usually middle aged Alfas doing this trash. They need to have side business of their own.

This means getting paid to do this, they have earned their reward here and zero up there. angry

I am not talking about alfa or people hired to dig qabr. I am not talking about alfa that wash the body. These people have the right to get paid. But to deliver speech like 8 days firdau and charge a fee?. This is aboherent to me. Family need people to comfort them not burden them. When my uncle died in 1994 my sheikh prepared food for them for weeks to alleviate their pains bcus uncle was the breadwinner.

May Allah set right our affairs .

That side, kindly watch this 13 minutes lecture of Sheikh Habeeb about killing of Jamal Khashoggi. But that's not what I really need. I read comments and they are nasty by these young Ahlusunnah people ridiculing the Sheikh and most of them probably didn't watch the clip. Their comments have to do with preconceived notions about him. But this is not the point either. My point is, see if you can find a video comment. It is a footage of the killing of Jamal Khashoggi. Bro, be careful if you wanna watch. It is nasty. My eyes sore watching how they decimated his body. La hawla walaquwata ila bilah.

I got scared watching this 3 min clip. Hopefully fb doesn't remove it before you watch it. Here is the link

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=2452333988116238&id=1984023931613915&comment_id=2452733048076332&notif_t=feed_comment&notif_id=1543337551456427&ref=m_notif

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Autos › Re: 2008 Nissan Pathfinder For Sale by Empiree(op): 6:24pm On Nov 27, 2018

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Islam › Re: Is Mawlid An Nabiy Worth Celebrating? by Empiree: 12:10pm On Nov 27, 2018*

Demmzy15:
Very laughable post I must say, you say "Mawlid that abide by Shariah", I seriously don't understand that assertion. Were you trying to say "Mawlid that abides by sunnah"? If that's the case, then there's no such as there's no evidence from the Shariah on how to celebrate Mawlid. Stop trying to justify your mis guidance please!

Inna Lilah waina ilai rajiun. It's high time I stop talking to you people. Very simple thing you don't understand. Laduna.I was right. I'm absolutely not obligated to clarify further what is already clear in my post. I know you guys want no peace with your fellow muslims. It is clear

Islam › Re: Kindly Help Clarify This About Khalid Ibn Walid by Empiree: 12:06pm On Nov 27, 2018*

^^

Your are takfiree and you can't tell me otherwise. And sorry bro, you can't tell me what karama is. Have you ever seen a true waliy in Yorubaland came outside and bragged about his karama?. No. It is others who tell about them and there is nothing wrong with that.

Waliy keep their blessings secret. It is those who are close to them that speak out. If you see someone come out and brag about what he got he's most likely bogus. Your hatred is simply for the word "Sufi". That's very shameful and intolerance of you. So far, you have not said anything significantly different from other antagonists. I have noticed that since you critisized mufti menk. It is the trait of some of the people who claim to be adherent of salafiya. So post whatever you want. Allah aided those waliy of His long before you were born in order to protect Islam. You don't go through hell they went through. And you people are here today condemning them. Nonsense.

I will ignore you soon

Islam › Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by Empiree: 5:19am On Nov 27, 2018

This is New York City. Abeg, are Nigerian Christians more civilized than Americans?. Nobody born well dares attack or yank off her Hijab or niqab because of her look. They will be arrested.

usermane cheesy

Islam › Re: Is Mawlid An Nabiy Worth Celebrating? by Empiree: 2:47am On Nov 27, 2018

aadoiza:
I also find that terribly appalling for no one person, group, faction, or sect can lay claim to practising the true Islam that the holy prophet practised; it's all been tampered with.

See, what some don't seem to understand is that by the very definition of Shahadatain which means SOMETHING THAT YOU SEE. What you see is what is called Islam, period. If you believe in what you see and you practice them, you are muslim. That's primary and foundational aqeeda which every muslim must believe and practice. So question is, what do you see?.

To offer daily salat, Ramadan, zakat and hajj. These are minimum practical requirements which fall under antash-hadu anla ilaha ila Allah wa antash-hadu anna muhammad rosulLlah.

You notice that no muslim practice otherwise in any masajid you visit. These are what unify us. Go to any masjid and pray. You have no business with anything else they do. So the above is Islam. Period. It is not tampered with.

So what I do is I listen to all sermons, pray in any mosque, provided they preach and practise Islam as we know it. And I try my level best to incorporate the good they preach in my routines, and discard whatever they preach

That's it. Take what is good and leave what you don't want. This is what mufti menk preaches but our brothers here still critisize him. They said he's not Muslim enough. Check this out to confirm my point https://www.nairaland.com/4836741/wallahi-one-best-place-been

that I'm not comfortable with or i could keep it mind till further clarification. Nevertheless, I reject any form of shirk outright

yes, if you hear something you don't understand, a sincere student will ask questions openly or privately by not being disrespectful to imam etc. Yes, shirk just be rejected.

All I want is for us to find a common ground so we can practise the Deen in unison, in the true spirit of Islam as laid down for us by the best of mankind (SAW)

Common ground is exactly what I have mentioned above. Anything else like group dhik in the masjid, Mawlid etc if masjid committee don't like people to gather for Dua or dhikr in the masjid, they should keep these practices in private since masjid is open to the public. This is about peace. So if people are doing their dhikr, Mawlid, Dua etc in unison in their own home and a fella comes around to criticize them that Nabi (saw) didn't do this and that or sahaba didn't do this and that, that fella is agent of shaytan and should be dealt with.

Perhaps I want it this way because it's not in my element to segregate or discriminate. I don't know how to take sides. If two persons had an altercation, unless I was there from the beginning i'd never judge either of them right or wrong based on their differing accounts.

If you don't want segregation or discrimination, the first thing to do is that you stay out of sectarian differences. If you are out of it you will be able to see and critisize both sides. But if you are in a sect, it will be difficult for you to criticize your own sect if they do wrong. This is why I'm not into any sect. Yes, I share manhaj sufiyyah but I do not belong to any Sufi sect or group. I share manhaj Salafiya but I do not call myself Salafi or belong to their group either but I was there for 4 yrs yrs ago. This is why it is easy for me to criticize some Sufi or bogus Sufi and some Salafi. Just that, it is very common with Salafi brothers to condemn their fellow muslims just by noticing sect a Muslim belongs to.

We Muslims coming together is just a dream, anyway. A dream of mine that will never come to pass. Which of my dreams don ever come to pass self? Abegii.

it will happen eventually. Allah's Decree is what is at work right now. If you understand many sayings of the prophet (saw), this should not be surprising to you.

It's just that whenever I think of how the holy prophet (SAW) would feel about us my heart bleeds terribly.

Saad

I wish you guys could take it easy on castigating and takfeer one another; I hardly learn anything when you do that inspite of the wealth of knowledge you tend share, which, sadly, almost always get lost amidst the squabbling.

I don't takfr no one unfortunately. That's what they do best

Islam › Re: Kindly Help Clarify This About Khalid Ibn Walid by Empiree: 12:01am On Nov 27, 2018

AbdulHakeem44:
I didn't expect something meaningful from you aside twisted evidences like I said earlier. There is karama for the waliyullāh, yes I agreed, who are the waliyullāh, the suffis? joke of the century. No wonder u have a twisted meaning.of karama.

Am sorry I don't listen to imran eleha, he is half sunnah half suffi, imran is not my kitab wa sunnah bifahm salafus soliheen.

I do not have time to reply your long nonsense of suffiya. your answer is here
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imran eleha is half Sufi...half Sunnah. That's funny. You are just like abdlkabir and abdulfatai sarumi. They said the same thing. Awón alainikanse cheesy

Tell us ooo which of your scholars in history had karama attached to them up until this moment?. In Nigeria and most around the world they were Sufis.

Sahaba were Sufis. What you should have said was that Sufi of today are not like those of yesterday. That would have been sincerity on your part. I know most of you got your ideology from Islamqa because that's the only muslim according to you. Anybody else is bidiah and shirk. Nonsense. So what's the difference between you and that plumber guy now?. I have said many times there is no difference between you guys. He's just extraordinarily extreme and sincere about it by making it plain. But you hide yours like your fellow brothers.

Islam › Re: Kindly Help Clarify This About Khalid Ibn Walid by Empiree: 10:25pm On Nov 26, 2018

OladimejiRufai:
Brother calm down

i understand u. i understand hw u feel

The true Islam had been so altered and deviated from so much so it requires strict adherence to Sunnah

but still take it easy

Brother truly there is something like Intuition

Did u not see what the Prophet himself said abt Umar that if there was going to be any Prophet after him, it will be Umar

Do u not know it is because of how much intuition or vision that Allaah used to cause Umar to see or have that caused the Prophet to say so abt him

Have not heard abt an incident where Shaykh Ibm Taymiyyah said something was going to happen in the future and he SWORE to it seventy times or more?

Do u not see that it was because of how sure he was abt it that made him swear to it seventy times?

Brother Karaamah (Miracle) of the awliya is real and it happens. it just that it must be narrated from a trustworthy source for us to believe it

and aside that there are true dreams as well

Proven by various hadith of the Prophet is that there will be dreams that come from Allaah which will come true

An hadith also says that there is a part of prophecy which Allaah left after the Prophet death which is true dreams

another hadith says that when the world is close to its end , hardly will the dream of a believer be false. and this is because the people of that time will be having lower faith compared tp the Sahabah and Allaah will suffice them with true dreams tp keep them firm upon faith

so brother if there are some incorrect things in empiree statement, it is not total nonsense like u claimed

there are correct things there

take it easy bro and educate urself

do research abt true dreams, karaamah and intuition

Thank you. He allows "Sufi" to cloud his judgement. That's what many of them do. Once they realized your ideology is of Sufi they reject everything you have to say. Just because some people do mad things today does not mean we have to throw everything away. The manhaj these lazy muslims profess and preach today is lazy man methodology.

They want to deprive Muslims of Islamic spirituality. They have have this virus injected in them which is virus of superiority over other muslims. And I have not part of any Sufi group. They chose to force it on me. And I have no problem with it any Sufi for as long as they are true to Qur'an and Sunnah. Kitab and Sunnah is not just about reading books. Saying it and doing it are two different things. Sufis do both.

Islam › Re: Kindly Help Clarify This About Khalid Ibn Walid by Empiree: 10:17pm On Nov 26, 2018

AbdulHakeem44:
Lolxxxxx, funniest comment of the year. All what you wrote here is nonsense raise to power ten. Basira ko Nafisa ni. As for Sheikhul Islam and Sheikh Adam, that is prediction, which may or may not happen. When fitna is approaching, the first to sense it are the scholars because of their knowledge not useless spiritual inspiration. Is it Angel Jubreel (A. S) that is been sent to inspire man or who, where's your evidence.
Man can only predict (likely outcome) which may or may not happen, Revelations, prophecies, inspirations are for the prophets. Claiming to prophecy, inspired by ALLāh through his Angels or receiving revelations when not a Nabiy or Rasul is kufr.

Am not surprised, u re suffi, it's part of their creed.

I don't expect better performance from you. Shaking my head. Is it only scholars Allah bestowed be"likely outcome" of event as you put it?. It can be anyone loved by Allah. There are bunch of scholars with zero baseera/firasa.

Obviously you have rejected this Hadith. I decided not to quote so that you can make fool of yourself. You said basira kó nafisa ni which is tantamount to mocking the prophet (saw). Basirah is inner light or light in the heart. This light is not your light bulb in your bedroom. It is important that I clarify because I can sense your low level aql. Light we taking about can not be bought at a stock market. Rather, it is only Allah that can bestow this light on your heart. Obviously you do not have this light. If you do, you would have understood what basirah/firasa mean. Just because you offer daily salat and abide by all fard of Islam doesn't mean you have firasa. Basirat is achieved only by Taqwa

Our beloved Prophet ﷺ said, “Beware of the firasat (acumen, acuteness) of mu’min for he sees through the noor (light) of Allah.” The mu’min has the noor of Allah ﷻ and he sees through it.

The Prophet (SAW) has spoken about it and said, ‘Beware of the Firasah of a believer, for he sees with the light and guidance of Allah’. (Recorded by Imam Tirmizi).

According to the scholars, Firasah is that inspiration which Allah places in the hearts of His beloved servants (the Awliya) through which they are able to recognize and know different states of people. This is based sometimes on a miracle, a correct thought, an insight or a correct assumption.

Firasah also refers to that knowledge which is achieved through the means of experience and experiment, or that which is known by looking at the lives of people and their conduct. (Tuhfatul Ahwazi vol.8 pg 533).

And also happened in Yorubland in case you don't know. One of the Sufi shuyukh I don't remember his name in old days was captured by brutal king who said he would spare his life on condition that he pass this test.

The test was that the king bought a big white cow and locked it in garage. Beheaders were ready to take his head off if he failed e test. King came out and told him about the cow without revealing it's color. He said if this waliy can predict color of the cow correctly his life would be saved but if he got it wrong he would be killed.

This waliy's crime was only that he came to preach Islam to them and they taunted him and arrested him. King said if he got the answer right, he and his people would accept Islam. This waliy did not see the cow. Color of the cow was actually white.

But upon answer the king, waliy said cow is black. The king was happy that "you dead today". He ordered his men to bring the cow to aafin. By the time they got there cow had turn black. They called the king and the king was amazed and he took Shahadatain.

This is called firasatul mumin also known as baseera or similar. This story was not narrated by Sufi. It was narrated by your salafi brother named sheik imran abdulmajeed eleha in Texas few years ago. He narrated this story to bring attention of people like you to Islamic spirituality. If you want to confirm the story, simply go and ask him. I can't tell you title of the lecture but it was done in Texas, USA and possibly still on YouTube.

Do you think Allah was not with those baba back in the days?. You must be joking. Allah aided them against kufar of their time. So yes, we have baseera in Islam. We also have 1/46 part of nabuwat which remains in the world today but hard to come by except to waliy most of whom are Sufis. Like it or hate it. I know Sufi is your problem. Suck it up. Go and look for hadith of nabuwat. That's your homework. It doesn't mean whoever is blessed with this is a prophet. No.

Muʿjiza is to the prophet while karama is to waliy. So baseerat/firasa are karamat of waliy. Waliy don't prophesize but predict. Kufar may also have it.

Islam › Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by Empiree: 8:45pm On Nov 26, 2018

Demmzy15:
Masha Allaah, did you know that the pix of the soldiers are Saudi Soldiers at the border treating the fuckup of Houthis?

you can't get over your sentiment, right grin

My post focused on obligatory salat. Not about xyz country shocked

Islam › Re: Is Mawlid An Nabiy Worth Celebrating? by Empiree: 7:58pm On Nov 26, 2018*

aadoiza:
I don't wanna go grammatical here, but i'd like to make it clear that rhetorical questions do— not may—end with question marks. That's by the way.

Perhaps I haven't said it here before, but I'm saying it now that I haven't got problems with people celebrating mawlid. I was just dumbfounded seeing a party of Muslims chanting their sheikh's name, as though their lives depended on it, when they were supposedly celebrating mawlid.

In fact, I've had to defend the pro mawlid a few times as I thought raising an obectiion against mawlid was petty and needless.
However, its antagonists say it is modelled after Christmas, which is even a contentious issue, and so I thought if that is true then i shouldn't keep putting up a defence in its favour as we're not allowed to copy either the nasarah or theJews. Although I don't criticise those wey dey do am because na them sabi. And I believe even if one were to be critical of mawlid, it should be done with utter moderation.

I, as a Muslim, will never relish the fact that we're, sometimes, divided by petty issues. It always bugs the hell outta me. And it's one of the reasons i seldom comment here in the Islam section.

I am sorry that disagreement on small issues bother you just as much as it bothers me. We have some people who believe it is either their way or highway. They want all muslims to accept their manhaj only bcus according to them, their manhaj is the only correct way. Anyone who has contrary opinion or ideology is "alhubidia" according to them. I try not to engage them in most cases but when they feel like they have the right to throw insults at those men who gave them islam in African or nigeria especially, i can't keep quiet.

That aside. See bolded part, they always say this nonsense. They say birthday is Jews and christians thing and we should not copy them. They always have low aql (intellect). Birthday is about humanity not essentially religious one. Nabi clearly said in the hadith the reason he fasted on Mondays relate to his birthday. How's that copying Jews and christians?. They do not understand the hadith. The hadith simply means dont imitate Jews and christians by calling nabi(saw) God or son of God like those people do. Yet many of them put on suit and tie, shirt and trouser the way yahud and nasara dress, shoes made by Yahud and narasa. Highrise buildings started by jews and christians. Quran competetion by giving prices which is not allowed by sunnah but they see it as "good deeds" and they did not condemn this bcus it suits their narrative, and i dont have problem with it either. Are muslims not copying them in these instances?. Competition and giving prices is well done by yahood and nasara. Birthday has nothing to do with Jews and christian imitation bcus nabi already highlighted this in the hadith. If birthday is forbidden, he(saw) would not have said "it is the day i was born".

Another argument they put forward is, since nabi(saw) fasted on his birthday, why dont you do the same?. Fast is optional and there is no command by him(saw) that we should fast too on Mondays or the day he was born. Carefully read my post please. I said he(saw) did not command or order muslims to fast too. But it is his sunnah bcus it was his action. You can't tell if someone fast or not. Thats why some of the mawlid celebrants do their mawlid at night bcus they fast in the day. This is a very simple issue but they no gree. The only way they can refute mawlid is by bringing forward ayah that haram mawlid. Thats why i said, on issues that Quran and hadith are silent should never be a point of bickering. They should leave people alone. We condemn only people who are doing trash in the name of Mawlid. Every yr they wanna come up with criticisms when they can easily focus on something relevant elsewhere. And i tell those who celebrate mawlid too to mind their business.

Islamic knowledge is broad

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Islam › Re: Kindly Help Clarify This About Khalid Ibn Walid by Empiree: 7:06pm On Nov 26, 2018

AbdulHakeem44:
Yes of course, Abu bakr (RodiyaLLahu an'hu) didn't prophecy because that will means he is claiming to have the knowledge of the unseen which automatically amounts to kufr. We all know he can't do that, So praise is what he meant.

Lol.. "prophecy" automatically amounts to kufr grin

Well, when prophets(Allah bless them) prophesied it is called prophecy. But it doesn't stop there. Sahaba were given basira and firasa(spiritual accume or insight) but we just need to properly choose choice of word. Therefore, after prophet muhammad(saw) there is no more prophecy but there will continue to be inspirations or spiritual insight. In islamic terminology it is called "basira", "firasa". I dont need to quote anything. We know sahaba seen upcoming events. Is this kufr?. But the way christians throw "prophecy" around is off. So "prediction" is more appropriate.

Sheikhul Islam Ibn Taymiyyah(ra) seen future event of the attack on muslims by mongols. Let's come down to our Nigeria. Sheikh Adam(ra) warned Awolowo when the former contested for head of state. Sheikh Adam said if you accept islam you will win but if you dont accept islam you will lose your presidential bid. Awolowo refused islam and lost.

Finally, nabi(saw) himself said there will remain on earth nabuwat(prophethood). The 46th part of prophethood which is true dreams and true vision. All these are kufr?. Obviously in my opinion, statement attributed to Abu Bakr appears to be praise than "prophecy". Even Bees receive inspiration as we speak.

Islam › Re: Kindly Help Clarify This About Khalid Ibn Walid by Empiree: 5:20pm On Nov 26, 2018

OladimejiRufai:
meaning he was praising him and not a prophecy right?

Not necessarily a prophecy. It should be simply understood as a praise. There is actually a book written about him. Khalid bin Al-Waleed was one of the greatest generals in history, and one of the greatest heroes of Islam. about whom the Prophet of Islam (SAW) said:

‘What an excellent slave of Allah: Khalid bin Al-Waleed, one of the swords of Allah, unleashed against the unbelievers!’, [Tirmidhi and Ahmad from Abu Hurayrah, Sahih Al-Jami’ Al-Saghir No. 6776]

And about Whom Abu Bakr (RA) said

‘Women will no longer be able to give birth to the likes of Khalid bin Al-Waleed.’ (Ibn Kathir, Al-Bidayah wan-Nihayah,

The original title of the book, “The Sword of Allah: Khalid bin Al-Waleed, His Life and Campaigns” was written by the late Lieutenant-General A.I. Akram of the Pakistan Army, in October 1969. The author learnt Arabic in order to draw on the earliest historical sources and he visited every one of Khalid’s battlefields in order to draw analyses from the viewpoint of military strategy, including reconciling conflicting historians’ accounts. The book was originally published by the Army Education Press, Rawalpindi, Pakistan and printed by Feroze Sons Publishers in Lahore, Pakistan. The excellence of the book was such that it has been translated from English into Arabic and is currently sold in bookshops throughout the Arab World.

Islam › Re: Is Mawlid An Nabiy Worth Celebrating? by Empiree: 1:20pm On Nov 26, 2018*

Awón alhunonsense tunde oooo

He said:

You can send blessings on the Prophet any time, any day and Friday is more Sunnah to do that.

Double standard people. See that?. We know that they even critisize gathering of muslims on ordinary days or any days. The moment they see Muslim gather to do dhikr they still call them "alhubidiah". We know this unless we wanna be hypocritical about this.

What's even funny is emphasizes placed on Friday while their alhunonsense preacher a k a sheikh salah of al-huda TV said there is nothing special about the day of jummah i:e Friday for Dua or dhikr while the Nabi (saw) said Friday is weekly eld. Confused set of people. If you don't want to celebrate eld, it is okay. It is not fard. But leave people alone and focus on your spiritual uplift. We only condemned those who do nonsense in the name of Mawlid. And Mawlid doesn't have to be done in congregation either. An individual may even do it in private. Don't forget that.

As usual I thought he wanted to bring evidence directly condemning Mawlid but unfortunately it is all rants with zero mustawaa.

It is interesting with some of the Saudi based publishers, as is their general practice, when printing the works of Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyyah quite deliberately leave out certain things they themselves disagree with. Here’s a taste of some the stuff you won’t find in their versions:

To celebrate and to honour the birth of the Prophet (s) and to take it as an honoured season, as some of the people are doing, is good and in it there is a great reward, because of their good intentions in honouring the Prophet (s).” (“Majma’ Fatawi Ibn Taymiyya,”) Vol. 23, p. 163:“

Since this statement of Ibn Taymiyyah doesn't go down with them, they simply hide it from their famous books.

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Islam › Re: Is Mawlid An Nabiy Worth Celebrating? by Empiree: 9:52pm On Nov 25, 2018

aadoiza:
Why so much bitterness, man? It was merely a rhetorical question. Many people, especially christians, on the day were wondering why would a bunch of Muslims be vigorously and continuously chanting a sheikh's name on a so-called prophet's birthday party. It was damn weird and confusing . You'd think Niyas was prophet's second name.

If you know the Hausas very well you'd know they—a number of'em—move around with daggers and they 'd strike with little or no provocation. We all know they can be overly and unnecessarily aggressive. And don't even think me a tribal bigot as I don't do tribalism. In fact I prefer praying in their Masaajid to anyone else's here in Lagos.

No bitterness here bro. I'm surprised you thought that way. Mawlid is a valid practice. Whoever goes against it needs to bring forward straight forward daleel that forbids it.

So whoever celebrate Mawlid should not condemn those who don't. Similarly whoever don't celebrate Mawlid should not condemn those who do. But we all can condemn whoever claims to be doing Mawlid but he's doing contrary to Islamic sharia. They'd still chant "niyas" on the two Elds but it won't invalidate their eld.

People commit sins on eld. They drink and fornicate but eld goes. So I wonder why you people only focus on silly things done in Mawlid while you ignore silly things done on Eld?.

Those Mawlid antagonists today only use charlatans from Mawlid celebrants to criticize Mawlid. This shows that they have no iklas. And those charlatans who claim to celebrate Mawlid but are doing contrary also do not have iklas.

There are Mawlid gatherings such as Oniwasagbaye, Sheikh Daud Alfa Nla among others that abide by sharia. Have you ever watched them?. But they won't look at that. They prefer to use charlatans to judge a practice. So again, if truly your rhetorical question was sincere, you should not have put question mark. Although rhetorical question may have question mark but it is rather left with full stop. It is better understood that way.

Anyways, I believe your were sincere. So no bickering.

Islam › Re: Using Vessels Of Gold And Silver For Eating And Drinking. Halaal Or Harom? by Empiree: 9:32pm On Nov 25, 2018

sarahade:
No wonder i see alfas using clay pot to eat like babalawo.

There is nothing bad in this actually.

Food cooked in clay pots taste great and are healthy for humans. These are the old things we let go in modern time of ours.

Not everything that doesn't for your mental faculty is wrong. Remember back in the days "agbó" that was prepared in clay pots worked faster than prepared agbó in modern pots. Some people wonder why they drink agbó for their malaria but malaria doesn't go away?. This is because we have abandoned the old way. That's, we have let go of our fitra.

So these ahadith quoted by op are credible but what op didn't elaborate reason(s) for forbiddance of gold plated utensils. He's probably not aware where he copied the text from. So bottom line is that, wisdom around this is for our medical benefits. Food may react to gold plated utensils and this may cause serious health problems. Sometimes there are no "village people following" you if you fall sick. You are the one "following" yourself.

We can always submit to the text but we should also endeavor to explain why these things are forbidden if we have credible explanation or negative effects of using these things proven scientifically.

Hudhaifah (May Allah be pleased with him) reported:

The Prophet( :saw: ) prohibited us from wearing brocade or silk and drinking out of gold or silver vessels and said, "These are meant for them (disbelievers) in this world and for you in the Hereafter.'' [Al-Bukhari and Muslim].

See this Hadith above kind of put things into perspective. It means that there must be danger to our health medically was the reason it was forbidden. Just like wine. Wine is forbidden for muslims but unbelievers may do as they wish with it. And QUR'AN teaches us there is great harm in it. But at the same time, wine is made halal for us in the Hereafter if you can wait and avoid it's consumption here on Earth.

Obviously, wine in the Hereafter is not like Earthly wine because we will not be drunk up there, which means wine in the Hereafter has no negative health effect attached. The same is true of gold plated utensils.

It makes good sense to forbid the use of gold, silver utensils. If you used them for water or worse, more acidic drinks you ran the risk of leeching out the lead and poisoning yourself. Lead poisoning is dangerous thing especially for kids. Also you need to note that Silver utensils are divided into at least four categories. Some are permmisibile. Op's text barely tried to break it down for clarity. That's why I believe some people resent his post. Original author probably doesn't have detailed explanation handy.

There are other brands that are halal like brassware.

`Abdullah bin Zaid (May Allah be pleased with him) reported:

The Prophet ( :saw: ) visited us and we brought water for him in a brass vessel for his ablution and he performed ablution. [Al-Bukhari].

This Hadith tells us that brassware can be used for performing ablution as well as for other purposes.

Islam › Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by Empiree: 8:47pm On Nov 25, 2018

tintingz:
What he's saying is Islamic beliefs.

And what has natural environment got to do with any of this? Does connect the dots? Does it prove God? And if you think so, which God and why that God?

since you didn't watch it in full it is irrelevant to argue over it.

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