₦airaland Forum

iamgenius:
Wa alaykum salaam brother. You are welcome onboard.

There are many members with different sects here. There are Sufis, Salafis, Shiites etc here.

vedaxcool:
It makes you nothing more than a hypocrite, a hypocrite is one who twist and turns on similar matter. You blindly support Assad, you blindly stated his murder of innocents with the support of Russia and Iran serves Islam. The issue is simple you cannot choose when secularism is bad and when it is good you simply cannot support secular Assad and at the same time be against allegedly secular MBS, you cannot not support Assad that locks Muslim clerics who criticize him and at same time be against MBS when he does the same thing. It is people like you that make religion nothing more than a cover to legitimise what politicians do and delegimise their opponents. Islam supports integrity and honesty, you cannot continue to display such wicked levels of dishonesty and be asking why people keep pointing you to serial inconsistencies. I advise you look at what you really believe in instead of condemning other people like you are anyway better than them. It is true you climb on the mountain of your own sins to look at the sins of others.

Farmerforlife:
https://followingthesunnah.com/2013/12/14/the-statements-of-the-scholars-regarding-the-reality-of-the-disbelief-of-the-rawafidah-shia/

And thanks for the advice. I like to give everyone the benefit of the doubt and assume that when they ask a question, the intent is to learn. I understand that some people are chronic trolls, but I can't tell who is who until after an exchange or two. The man asked a perfectly valid question, citing a case in Iran where a woman was punished after defending herself from being raped. I simply explained to him that the judgment in question had nothing to do with Islam. I do not believe in a defense using the claim... "you did it first". That is an escapist strategy.

AlBaqir:
That's "al-kitab wa Sunnah" card playing casino faah

vedaxcool:
So Assad happens to be a Sufi saint not a secularist? Everything you accuse the bloke of has been far surpassed by your personal favourite hero Assad. Hence it is nothing short of hypocrisy to defend what one Assad do and condemn a potential copy cat who haven't done a 10th of your favourite dictator does. I know this will bounce off your ear, but you should be told the truth.

Farmerforlife:
Iran is shiite like zakzaky's group. Their creed is not considered to be Muslim by the overwhelming majority of Muslim scholars, so their policies and behaviours are not binding on Muslims, and should not be used against Islam.

I know the sad incident you are referring to, the name of the victim was Reyhana Jabbari, and she was attacked by an officer in the revolutionary guard, whom she promptly killed. She was a sunni Muslim sister; yet another victim of the sectarian victimisation that goes on in Iran; and apparently refused to engage in the institutionalised prostitution that the shiites practise, leading to the officer trying to force himself on her.

They sentenced her to death by hanging and have already executed her as you rightly said. May Allah bestow His Mercy on her.

Again, I was strictly referring to the stipulations of the sharia law. What happens in war torn countries is not representative of Muslim society as a whole, especially since most parties to the war are in fact, made up of deviant sects like ISIS or Hezbollah, who are just out for vengeance.

Demmzy15:
So can you give us other hadith that your scholars use for analysis, all you've been doing here since is jumping all around. From MBS to Najd now again you've jumped to the gulf war. I expect your next step



The Prophet(Sallalahu Alayhi Wa Salam) referred to Iraaq specifically in a narration I posted earlier, I noticed you didn't comment on that. Another narration the Prophet mentioned that Dajjal will emerge from the road between Iraaq and Syria, I wonder how najd became a location between Iraaq and Syria.

Nasty events that have happened in Iraaq:

Murderers of Uthman(RadiAllaahu Anh) were Kufis ie they were Iraaqis
Battle of Jamal was in Iraaq
Death of Aliyy (RadiAllaahu Anh)
Death of Hussain(RadiAllaahu Anh)
Emergence of the first sects(Qadariyyah, jahmiyyah, Mu'tazila)
Mongol slaughter of Muslims in Baghdad(the Ummah is yet to recover from this)
US Invasion to
ISIS Khawarij

And please stop making noise about "Hanafis", those aren't Hanafis but Soofees just like yourself. They're Barawelis from the Indian Subcontinent who are known to hate Salafis. Moreover, I've read from Zahiris, Hanbalis, Malikis and Shafi'i and they all interpret it to be Iraaq. Companions and those after them all knew it to be Iraaq, so who the hell are you?

You've not presented anything tangible, later you'll now come and say years later that you shut me up

Rashduct4luv:
Mr. Afala ta'qilun! Why will you say some just become conscious of deen just 10 years ago? Even someone who started last year can surpass you in. The babas you mentioned tried their effort to be on the right! They were involved in a lot of bidi'a which they thought was right! Sahih Bukhari was abridged and no part of it was expunged! And stop mentioning Imam Albani cos he only said what is obvious as no book can be as Saheeh as the Qur'an!

Some Babas still shake to the left and right while saying amin after reciting Fathia. Was this expunged too from Sahih Empir.ee?

iamgenius:
Baba 80, you read another book, not the Saheehayn. Don't forget that, there are many books then that were written due to the level of knowledge of our Shayks then.

Again, you read another book and you thought it was the Saheehayn.

peace4omar:
I have read from alb.aqir and emp.iree. It's cabbage and mere lies to say that some parts sohihain have been expunged. The copies they talked about are the abridged and concise versions of the hadith. The original copies still remain originals but in bulky and expensive volumes. These guys can't afford one but chose to criticise the hadith. It's the traditional trait and trick of rafidis when seeking to claim relevance. The Shiites are not Muslims as they refute the prophethood of Muhammad blaming Jibril for the colossal mistake. They also claim the Quran is distorted and incomplete let alone the hadith. Their Quran has a chapter called suratu alwilaya.
The best you can do is to read books written by their deviant imams.

Rashduct4luv:
The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Telling lies about me is not like telling lies about anyone else. Whoever tells lies about me deliberately, let him take his place in Hell.” Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 1229. It was also narrated by Muslim in the Introduction to his Saheeh, without the phrase “Telling lies about me is not like telling lies about anyone else.”

And the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Do not tell lies about me, for whoever tells lies about me will enter Hell.” Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 106. And he (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Whoever narrates a hadeeth from me that he thinks is false is one of the liars.” Narrated by Muslim (1).

I think you should think and reflect yourself!

kolawoleibukun:
Muslims claim not to drink any intoxicating liquor but they smoke it. How can one describe that?

They do not allow girls to dress indecently but they watch porn and invite Beyoncé to their cool parties. Is that not hypocrisy?

They are allowed to rape girls but the girls are not allowed to protest against rape. what do you call that?

The men are allowed to walk around in swim suits and exposed chests, while the women are not allowed to swim without covering their hair even under water. No be winch be that?

When a Muslim says inshallah, consider that a 30% a non-commitment. Why lie with Allah to fool others?

Fornication is a sin in Islam, no man has been punished for fornicating but people get short sleeves for stealing maggi and drink tomboh. what is that called?

a religion where no man can challenge the imam or ask serious questions to quench his taste, da one na wetin?

in all sharia countries they build walls as high as prison walls to secure themselves. if it is a religion of peace, why is every man building high walls?

why do Muslims countries always have the poor assembling at the gates of the rich for food? you steal public fund and give stipends for thanks.

why do rich muslims send their kids to western schools and the poor to almajiri?

Rashduct4luv:
So (some or) all the Books of hadith has been edited? By whom? When? And only you and a few others noticed right? That is silly! I never goofed just stating the obvious.

Demmzy15:
You ehn!!! So much desperation, I just pray you don't kpeme from heart attack one day.

Your analogies are weak, so just because a bad guy is from a people, then the whole of that people are condemned abi? For instance, the man that assassinated Umar is a persian, so you're saying all persians who don't agree with you are monsters and have the slyish character? One of the men promised paradise during his lifetime, Talhah Ibn Ubaydullah is from this tribe and many other companions are from this tribe. So what's your fuss?

Musaylama was one of the dajjal(liars), ironic there are other individuals from different places who were also dajjal. Now should we now use that particular individual to judge all the good people there?

This should help you think better:

Abu Hurayra said: ‘I have continued to love Banu Tamim after I heard three things concerning them from Allah’s Messenger (s.w.s.). “They will be the sternest of my Umma against the Dajjal; one of them was a captive owned by ‘A’isha, and he said: ‘Free her, for she is a descendent of Ismail;’ and when their zakat came, he said: ‘This is the zakat of a people,’ or ‘of my people’.”
Sahih Al Bukhari. Book #46, Hadith #719

Demmzy15:
See you!!! So you've agreed that the Sheikh is right abi? And by the way, we were not talking about the gulf war

Demmzy15:
I don't need your rubbish analysis, you're one of the most hypocritical human beings I've ever come across. The video of Sheikh Al Albani which you referenced earlier, I ended up watching the video and he refuted all your bollocks. You ignored all the part he gave proofs that the location is Iraaq and then started screenshot the part he criticized the Sauds for bringing in the Americans (he never said it was wrong by the way). The Sheikh even gave evidence of Saddam's invasion of Kuwait. Why the hypocrisy?!

I seriously don't even know why I'm dragging this issue with you when there's a narration whereby "Iraaq" was mentioned categorically in front of the Prophet(Sallalahu Alayhi Wa Salam):

Ibn Umar reported: The Prophet, peace and blessings be upon him, said, “O Allah, bless us in our Syria. O Allah, bless us in our Yemen.” He repeated it and on the third or fourth time, they said, “O Messenger of Allah, and in our Iraq.” The Prophet said, “Verily, from there will appear upheavals and tribulations and from there will rise the horn of Satan."

Al-Mujjam Awasaat Tibraani, Hadith-4230
Musnad-e-Bazzar,Abu-Bakr Bazzar Pg.292
Musnad Abdullah-bin-Umar Trososa pg.273
Silsilah Sahiha of Shaikh Al-Bani, Hadith number: 2246
Hilya-Awliya of Abu-Nu'aym pg.1/144
Haythami - Source: Zawaa'id - Page or number:3/308
Mundhiri in At-Tarqeeb wa-Tarhib - Page or number: 2/214
Tareekh Baghdad of Khatib al-Baghdadi 1:321
Tareekh Damishiq of Ibn-Asakir pg.571


Now eat dirt!!!!

AlBaqir:
# Unfortunately, there is absolutely nothing in the copy-pasting "reply" you have posted. It only making noise with no factual evidence. Therefore its a waste of time for me taking you through it.


# First our argument is crystal clear and that is, the present Sahih Bukhari which has 9 huge volumes was never the manuscript of Imam Bukhari.

PROBLEM 1: About al-Mustamli

* One connection between Imam Bukhari and his student Yusuf al-Farabri who preserved his Sahih was al-Mustamli (d. 376 H). He claimed to have seen al-Bukhari's own handwritten copy of his sahih with al-Farabri

In his testimony, he confirmed that al-Bukhari actually died
without completing the book. So, al-Mustamli clearly made
changes to the text of the book while copying it, and
effectively completed it. Therefore, the compiler and
completer of Sahih al-Bukhari, as we have it today, was none other than al-Mustamli. If others had also compiled their own copies, we do not have theirs. We have only the version of al-Mustamli.


PROBLEM 2: About Abu Zayd al-Mirzawi

We thank God that your copy-pasted reply affirmed as we have submitted that Abu Zayd al-Mirzawi (d. 371) had the oldest manuscript.

Al-Bukhari died in 256 H. So, this means that the earliest
surviving manuscript – that of Abu Zayd – was written
114 years after al-Bukhari's death. Even then, a Salafi
researcher, Shaykh Dr. Ahmad Faris al-Salum, gained
access to this ancient manuscript and gives this report:

"As for this manuscript – the manuscript of Abu Zayd –
what exists of it are 52 pages."
http://www.ahlalhdeeth.com/vb/showpost.php?
p=524439&postcount=1

How did we come about 9 volumes of thousands ahadith today?


PROBLEM 3: The content

We have given handful example with references from today's "sahih Bukhari" which have for example:

# Imam Bukhari reported to us

# Imam Bukhari said

# And the usage of "Rahimahullah" after the mention of Imam Bukhari.


Therefore, with all these facts (and more), how can anyone in his right sensible mind claimed the PRESENT DAY sahih Bukhari was the book of Imam Bukhari?

Empiree

AlBaqir:
Òrò di ó só sínilénu ó bu iyò si. Isó ni yi ko se gbemi, iyò ni yi kose tu danu.

Alhajijesus:
2.

Two and someone who snapped photo Ahmada tijani and Ibrahim iniyaas and he does sujjud for them anytime he wakes up before doing anything.

Rashduct4luv:
I have never heard a Suffi quoting authentic naration before.

And that Nawaetu was expunged from the Saheehayn that one is a fallacy!

Rashduct4luv:
Nawaitu! If he doesnt get it from from from... as you say where else do you expect him to get it from? I don't really know ur problem bro. Please tell me ur P.

BishopMagic:
The Sultan tells you when to begin your Ramadan fast and when to end it.

The same Sultan is the permanent Head of the Nigerian Supreme Council for Islamic Affairs, the highest Islamic body in Nigeria which so happens to be recognized by the useless 1999 Constitution and fully funded through public resources . The Supreme Council for Islamic Affairs is the only body to regulate Islamic doctrine and also issue fatwas at will. And the supreme head is the Sultan of Sokoto.

Now compare with your Christian brethren, who Yorubanized Christianity to form denominations like the Celestial Church of Christ and other white garment Afro-spiritual churches, why are Yoruba Muslims so slavish to Sokoto?

To even add insult to injury, the first Yoruba Emir formerly Oba of Iwo appointed a Hausa Islamic cleric as his Waziri (Prime Minister) who is expected to guide the new Emir on how to administer and govern under Sharia law. Is it that Emir Akanbi did not see the likes of Ishaq Akintola - a Professor of Islamic Studies- to appoint as his Waziri?

Malctunji can you explain on behalf of your fellow Oyoruba Muslims why you feel so inferior to Sokoto?

Rashduct4luv:
Suffees are to their Sheikhs as the dead is to the person bathing it. Stop that comparison! Bukhari and Muslim tried their best to select the best hadiths in their Books without taqlid common among soofees!

Rashduct4luv:
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The answer is that in his Saheeh, al-Bukhaari did not narrate anything directly from the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), rather he narrated from trustworthy shaykhs, who attained the highest degree of memorization, precision and trustworthiness, who in turn had narrated from equally reliable shaykhs, all the way back to the Sahaabah who narrated from the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him).
https://islamqa.info/en/20153