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Islam › Re: Shaykh Adam Abdullah Al-ilory by Empiree(op): 6:40pm On Mar 04, 2018*

Just seen this

Jamo90:
I didn't want to say this before. At a point I had to pay some money just to make the Alfa give more information about it. He only talked for about 25 minutes and said that's all he could say.

clearly shows he doesnt want to give. They have covenant with Allah to the best of my knowledge.

# If a group of alfas want to recite Suratul Yasin, it's khutba and jabaru for a client with issues, you know there has to be a fixed number of recitations after the hisabi has been done. I mean the Numerology. For example, if the Yasin is recited 313 times, with your experience, how many times would jabaru and khutba Yasin be recited? That jabaru is quite voluminous.

From my experience back then, 313 Yasin is for ram, although big ram (agbo funfun). This is small counts. Used to be about 15 of us and in most cases during the day from 10AM. But there are circumstances sometimes which led to making it at night (overnight). We finished this quickly. But Malu was overnight in most cases and we finished most part (Yasin- body of the dua) before fajr. After praying fajr, we start with khutba and jabaru. This attracted some 30 to 35 congregation. So with 313, and sometimes Jabaru didnt involve or just one recitation. Khutba was usually 7 recited by 7 people.

I wish this could be private. Lol. Make these guys no come start trouble.

don't worry, ignore self proclaimed puritans.

# Seriously, Your Sheikh deserve national award. I don't think I can stand all this family issues. It's the most deadly problem a man could have because you are dealing with people who know everything about you.

LOL, i will tell him this when i have time. Yes, man's problems usually start with family. Thats exactly how his started. They thought he could not make it. But it is all over now.

Islam › Re: Shaykh Adam Abdullah Al-ilory by Empiree(op): 6:24pm On Mar 04, 2018

Jamo90:
These sheikhs don't want to leave anything for the next generation o. It's having a negative impact on Muslims. A lot are being misled while the baton are not being handed over to the guys who are loyal and ready to learn. You'll have to start all over before you become somebody just because a sheikh took all the secrets he was supposed to passed to you to the grave.

To be honest, i dont blame them. Look around you today. See what youth have become. It is very sad. Now you have encouraged me to make one more move to parade my sheikh to give it out. But doing so on the phone is not a good idea. I wanna find time to go to nija and meet him in person again in sha Allah. Such du'a may eventually disappear because i dont think for a second that Allah would allow it to become yeye. So dont blame those baba. These kids today can be very scary. Are they gonna leave such du'a for a child who believes in gay right crap?. That's not done.

Islam › Re: Shaykh Adam Abdullah Al-ilory by Empiree(op): 6:19pm On Mar 04, 2018*

Subhanallah, Jabaru that you screenshot is very correct. You bring that memory. That's how it starts. Maybe other maybe be a little twisted but this is it. See the beginning praising Allah. Tell me why Allah would not respond. The Compeller would respond. Khutba Yasin is correct too. Usually some pages. But Du'a Jabariyya is longer. So Alfa would not give it out if they see you as small guy. He sees you as irresponsible. It is not dua to give out just like that. It is dua of awon alfa agbalagba. In Yorubaland we call it Jabaru - The Compeller. When i said our gate was shaking when it was recited, y'all probably thought i was in dreamland. Tbaba said it was Jinn at work LOL.

Our house was in the jungle back then before current development. How did you think my sheikh secured his building from hired killers, robbers and kidnappers with all kids and wives around him ?. We were so small and our house was the only visible one. We were surrounded by bushes and were so vulnerable yet, not once we are attacked. The Compeller was monitoring the house even in our absence bcus we were not permanent there until 1989.

So from what i think is going to happen is, the man will not give you until you are more mature both physically (age wise) and mentally sound. And you are devot unless if he cares about money more. Either way, you may still have to pay even in maturity to get it bcus those men served their shuyukh to get it. Mine served his sheikh for 12yrs. And youths today aren't ready for that. Another way to get it by paying sum. But the sheikh shouldn't give it out still without you having ability to make du'a. It is not all about money but they have the right to collect money before giving it out. Jabarriya no be yeye

Islam › Re: Shaykh Adam Abdullah Al-ilory by Empiree(op): 5:58pm On Mar 04, 2018

I want you to assess what he said and tell me if there's truly a 'key recitation' that activates the dua. Or maybe your Sheikh didn't share that with you. This is my first time of hearing about a short dua that activates another dua. I'd like to know your views about this. Thanks

Like i said above, very possible. See i said above that my sheikh would recite brief du'a?. So dont rule it out at all even if he was just trying to scare you off.

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Islam › Re: Shaykh Adam Abdullah Al-ilory by Empiree(op): 5:53pm On Mar 04, 2018

Hkana:
Let me hang here. Even if I don't understand everything I may be able to pick one or two out

Lol, you were around 3yrs ago when this was discussed. i am sure you would catch up cheesy

Islam › Re: Shaykh Adam Abdullah Al-ilory by Empiree(op): 5:52pm On Mar 04, 2018*

Yes, it is very possible the need to "activate" the du'a. When i used to read Yasin with them in group (90s), there were 4 levels of people involved. But basically it is 3 levels.

First level are those who don't know sura yasin. They were allowed to join the dua not necessarily for money but to learn as well. Their duty was to only say "ameen" every time but this was not necessary. This included clients) who dont know anything. He/she only said AMEEN throughout the entire program.

Second level are those who know sura Yasin only. I was in this level when i joined. I never for once joined them officially by level 1. I would stand outside reading yasin along with them but was not part of the group until i asked papa if i could join?. He examined me before the next program and i joined at level 2 and recited 40 sura Yasin in one sitting. I caught everyone by surprise and i paid the price (fell sick) the first day. That was my official "initiation" in 1994 but i was aware and was around yrs before then.

Third level are majority. Those in this level also recite sura Yasin but they also recite khutba. But not all of them. Khutba also has specific count. It could be 7x for ram (Agbo). Could be 32x for cow (Malu). Which means 7 or 32 people are chosen even though the rest know how to read the khutba. So basically, this are for selected people and they recited not in group but one after another and the rest said "ameen" including my sheikh.

Fourth level is for my sheikh only and everyone must be seated. Before he starts, we take a little break to renew wudu. He recited Khutba yasin, some tira briefly followed by Jabaru.

So it is very possible there is brief "key" involved to "unlock" Jabariya. So you can see why that alfa may be reluctant. But dont relent. You gotta keep parading him and prove yourself to be gentleman. He is looking for maturity in you. Thats why my sheikh didnt give me too.

Still reading....

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Islam › Re: Shaykh Adam Abdullah Al-ilory by Empiree(op): 5:28pm On Mar 04, 2018

Jamo90:
Do you have a link to the video. Please share with me. What I found on Jabar is beyond me. I told a friend to ask his sheikh about it. My friend came back to tell me his sheikh was just asking him who told him about jabar. The man asked my friend to come back later. I know he he didn't want to tell him anything. Lol

Yes, they have every reason to be afraid to give out. There is "majemu" to it. It is about studies. Lots of sadaqa involved too. You see, if you go to those real alfa and ask them about Jabaru, they know you are not one of these indomie community. They see you as a very thoughtful person bcuz in this day and age, it is rear for kids to do such research

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Islam › Re: Shaykh Adam Abdullah Al-ilory by Empiree(op): 5:24pm On Mar 04, 2018

Ok, i gained access to my email from another source. Yes, Alfa is right that it is for senior men. He didnt lie. Like i said when i referenced Sheikh Ashile

still reading

expect more comments soon

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Islam › Re: Shaykh Adam Abdullah Al-ilory by Empiree(op): 5:10pm On Mar 04, 2018

let me see if i can login from this lap and read over again. If you have listened to Sheikh Mustafa Ashile before, he once said in oe of his lectures that "JABARU, adua awon agbalagba ojoun". It is very deep du'a. My sheikh I was talking abotu 3 yrs ago, thats what he used to subjugate power of his 2 family members who were after his life. He saw them wherever they went from his house. They went from one alfa to another to send ASASI on him but it was all rendered null and void

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Islam › Re: Shaykh Adam Abdullah Al-ilory by Empiree(op): 4:54pm On Mar 04, 2018

Jamo90:
You can talk about it here but I'm afraid it won't look nice if these bidah crooners derail our discussion. We will spend more time trying to search for hadith to counter their allegations rather than passing more information for those who want to benefit.

Personally, I'd prefer private discussion but if you had made your contributions 3 years ago private I wouldn't have benefited. It took me a lot of effort to make this research and I won't like to see people who don't understand these things just start their insult. I'll just hope they don't derail but if that happens, we'll have to go private.

they will be ignored for the most part. I can care less about them now. So yes, it is very correct from what I read. Just that I'm away from that email now. Would be nice to respond accordingly.

As for ikupakuti, i dont have contact with him at all. However, i see USA number attached to email he once sent me. Not sure if the number is his as i believe he lives in nija (can really tell). And the cell number could probably randomly attached to his email without his knowledge

Islam › Re: Pictures/Jinn issue. Is it safe? by Empiree: 3:54pm On Mar 04, 2018

topsyspice:
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Op, it s simple. You do not offer your salat in the direction where those things are. And Jinns are not always in them but they are vulnerable. If you can, clear them from the qibla at the time of salat and pray. If that's not possible, say for instance most of those things are placed in your direction, you can always face other direction that is more comfortable. INTENTION PRECEEDS actions until you can find other means of income.

You can't be losing your job every time you encounter situations like this. You have to work your way around them. The more you are exposed the more you see. Some Muslims work in a much complicated and harder environment than this and they still meet their daily obligations.

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Islam › Re: Pictures/Jinn issue. Is it safe? by Empiree: 12:06pm On Mar 04, 2018

tintingz:
That's her desired audience but does not restrict me from commenting or dropping an advice, it's her choice to take it or ignore it.

you trouble, isn't cheesy

Islam › Re: Pictures/Jinn issue. Is it safe? by Empiree: 6:40am On Mar 04, 2018

tintingz:
Why isn't?

because Op was selective and precised about her desired audience when she said:

topsyspice:
Assalam aleikum warahmotullah wabarakatuh to my beautiful brothers and sisters in Islam .

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Islam › Re: Pictures/Jinn issue. Is it safe? by Empiree: 6:24am On Mar 04, 2018

tintingz:
Don't let religious disorder take over you, your irrational fear is base on what's not real, there's no harm in art works, no imaginary monster will hunt you, kindly appreciate the art works, free your mind.

Cc. topsyspice

this thread isn't meant for you angry

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Islam › Re: Do Not Follow The Tijaaniyyah Tareeqah Of The Sufis by Empiree: 5:11am On Mar 04, 2018

iamgenius:
LOL, empir.ee, what's this?. The man in white is Bàbá Ifá

Kini?. Why are you guys using one deranged individual to justify entire group?. Have you guys not heard of other Alfas in the same Tariqa condemn them?. They have called these type of people "GOOFI" not SUFI. What's the point of calling MODS to send this to front page for?. Be sensible. I am not Tijjaniya. I never told anyone i was. So why called me to defend mentally sick man?.

Besides, why is this new to you guys?. Have you not read ahadith to this effect about sick people like them in the Last Age?. Abeg, free me.

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Islam › Re: Shaykh Adam Abdullah Al-ilory by Empiree(op): 5:00am On Mar 04, 2018

Jamo90:
OK. I'll be expecting your response.

Subhanallah....you are a true student of knowledge.. Since we last talked about it some 3 yrs ago you never relent. That's very good of you brother. That's testimony.

But before i say anything, do you give me green light to talk about it in this forum?. I can only access associated email if i am home or near free WiFi. That's why i no longer take it with me and bought a new phone since. You really made me happy with your research. I like when muslim do research. Thumb up akhi

The thread shows up right under this reply LOL. See it? cheesy

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Christianity Etc › Re: The Bible Disguised As The Quran To See How People React. by Empiree: 3:44am On Mar 04, 2018

ayinba1:
The above statement speaks volume about the intelligence of the one who utters it. In the USA, gun violence is a daily source of sorrow to the families of the deceased and the incapacitated. Any act that results in destruction of human lives/property/ability is an act of terror.
Including, the destruction of civilians in Syria by ISIS, by France, by Russia, by US, by Assad himself and whoever else is doing it.

The killing of Palestinian children by Israeli soldiers, the killing of people by bokoharam, the shootings that have become commonplace in the US due to unfettered access to arms, the Rwanda genocide, need I list more.

Please stop parroting nonsensical ideas.
It takes courage and sense to stand out and speak the truth. Do yourself (-ves) a favor and rise above. There are more non muslim terrorists today than there are muslim terrorists. It is understandable that people have a knee jerk reaction to terror incidents when it is a muslim because a muslim should know better than to terrorize anyone.

Islam › Re: Shaykh Adam Abdullah Al-ilory by Empiree(op): 7:00pm On Mar 03, 2018

Jamo90:
Salam alaykum, I sent you an email. I hope you've seen it.

walaikum Salam

My phone associated with that email is on life support for about 3 months now. I can only use it at home where WiFi is. I will check my email when I reach tonight, In Sha Allah.

Education › Re: Treasures Olawunmi Bayo To Break 113 Hours Reading Marathon World Record by Empiree: 9:29pm On Feb 28, 2018

By the time he reads 20 pages, book will start reading him grin

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Travel › Re: American Street Filled With Potholes You Don't See On TV (Photos & Video) by Empiree: 9:10pm On Feb 28, 2018

Islam › Re: Shaykh Adam Abdullah Al-ilory by Empiree(op): 4:15pm On Feb 28, 2018

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1876490832421598&id=241499339254097

Romance › Re: She Is Not A Graduate, I Don't Know If I Should Marry Her by Empiree: 12:46am On Feb 27, 2018

sexaddict08:
She has been with me for the past one year....faithful n all that...she's almost perfect. 22 and Igbo, and has a good dress sense. Almost anything wey she buy they fit her oooo no matter how cheap. She's got that.

But, she no go school oooo. She can chat n read but not fluently. If i jokingly ask her a random question like 7 x 3...she may not know it ooo, even though she finished secondary school 3 years ago.

She sha love me die, and i actually opened that place...
But what do u think of a future with her?? i need advice folks

Op,

Islam › Re: Shaykh Adam Abdullah Al-ilory by Empiree(op): 8:06pm On Feb 26, 2018

Funny brief lecture by Sheikh Adam(ra)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDk7Y9C97rg

Islam › Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by Empiree: 4:19pm On Feb 26, 2018

Raintaker:
Yes I think.

thought you were regular in this thread cool

Crime › Re: Islamic Cleric Hypnotises Childless Women, Takes Their Money, Sleeps With Them by Empiree: 3:39pm On Feb 26, 2018

WotzupNG:
I'm saying you are the alfa.

help yourself, òdè. Swear by God that's me angry

Please swear that if the report is about me you should not enter Heaven

Now, see what your pastor caused. This is the video sent to me.

Treatment Of Alleged Witch Mother

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5mxfQ4DWhg

Crime › Re: Islamic Cleric Hypnotises Childless Women, Takes Their Money, Sleeps With Them by Empiree: 3:17pm On Feb 26, 2018

WotzupNG:
A screenshot of something you typd is what you want us to believe?

don't forget this

Crime › Re: Islamic Cleric Hypnotises Childless Women, Takes Their Money, Sleeps With Them by Empiree: 3:12pm On Feb 26, 2018

WotzupNG:
A screenshot of something you typd is what you want us to believe?

and why are you so eager?. And why are you pretending as if your pastors aren't doing the worst under the sun?.

That's the name and number of the lady who sent it in a group

Crime › Re: Islamic Cleric Hypnotises Childless Women, Takes Their Money, Sleeps With Them by Empiree: 3:04pm On Feb 26, 2018

Princeofnigeria:
Hahahaha religion of pieces

WotzupNG:
Em.piree AT WORK

what's up?. What's my biz with you, buddy?. I will load the video and tag you soon.

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Islam › Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by Empiree: 9:00pm On Feb 25, 2018

Raintaker:
First time here

in this thread?

Islam › Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by Empiree: 5:18am On Feb 25, 2018*

Demmzy15:
So people that believe that all except 3 companions apostatized are pious Muslims according to you?

I don't know if you deliberately distorted my post. My post is very clear.

Islam › Re: Some Deeds Not Meant For Muslims 2 by Empiree: 2:50pm On Feb 24, 2018

baio:
May Almighty ALLAH increase us in understanding... That hadith read the commentry, sahih bukhari.. Theyre debricated hadiths.

Debricated by who?. You are giving excuses by any means necessary just because you go against it. It is clear now that you brothers are not on solid rock on this issue. Why you do believe ahadith quoted by op are valid but the ones I quoted are not despite been from reported in the same sources?

Islam › Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by Empiree: 2:13am On Feb 24, 2018

Demmzy15:
Millions do it and you know it, in Iraaq supposedly "peaceful" Shi'a priest Muqtada Al Sadr organizes plays which thousands of Iraaqi Shi'as attend that portrays the Sahabah(especially) in the worse of manners. It was due to some of radicalization that made many Shias during the Sectarian War to kill Sunnis for bearing the name Umar.

It's very unfortunate that you still ally with this despite all what he has made apparent. Wallahi, if he has this, who knows what he is hiding. In as much as I hate their beliefs, I don't call to killing and terrorizing, so dont paint me in that light. In many Shi'a cities, just look at how their husseiniyats get filled up when it's about Umar, Aisha, Mu'awiyah or Karbala.

They are muslims. That's sufficient. The issue of cursing sahaba is theoretical one and i dont agree with them. I hope you understand that some of them are just follow follow.

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