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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RrMABzoKveg&t=211s

jimohmustapha502:
There is a question which I want u to put more light to it .

My question is ,

Today on my way back from work I decided to pray solatu ishaa .

There was a man who was laying on the floor inside the mosjid , though the people thought he was sleeping until a man went to woke him up for the solaa .
Subhan Allah
He notice that the man is about to die ,
People were wondering about what has happened to him .
They don't know his father , mother, siblings or any of his relative .
As time goes on the people abandoned the man who was about to die and pray the solaatu ishaa .
My question is was this right or wrong coz later on after the ishaa it was about 5 minutes after they announced to the people to help the man who was about to die .

Pls is this right ?
Salaam aleikum

They are very wrong if your narration is true. Did he later die?. And how did you know he was about to die?. Or he might be sick with stomach bug etc?. Either way, someone in a pain like that needs medical attention and should have been attended to before solat commenced or they should have appointed people to take him to nearby care center while salat is on. They should never abandoned him

Rilwayne001:
It is Nigerian that's actually moving backward.

Sad. Indeed. Even if Nigeria money is deliberately devalued by the big guys, that doesn't stop the govt from investing good roads, standby electricity, clean water, stable healthcare etc.

True but sad. 3rd world are really defrauded

adejaresalami1:
My view is
Revelation makes everlasting truths clear, those who mock it merely undo themselves.

Empires, consider the signs of Allah's gracious kindness around you, and glorify him

Attribute not unworthy qualities nor any companion to Allah

Seek truth in worship more than mere ancestral ways, and.................shut not our revelations light

My views upon ur matter is just too much

And whats all these?. You have a problem. You already decided who i am behind the screen?. You are incredible. So how's this post of yours relate to question i asked?. I simply asked u what's your view about scholars of every sect that claimed beard is not part of the deen and you came up with story

adejaresalami1:
Point is.........virtually all mainstream scholar of your sect claim that growing beards is not part of our deen

And your view of this is..........?

adejaresalami1:
I can't believe you are saying this

Sufism don dey die small for ur body

your point is?

Primary effect of this is overwhelming western influence. They take beard off men, and many of us are brainwashed by that.

God put beard on men, not necessarily for religious reason but for identification purposes. So if your father is beardless, you have two moms

LadunaI:
Pls can you provide the link here to that debate.

Thanks

You talking about this debate?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYRKuquV7_M

Albaqir opened the thread on it here. I have searched his profile but cant seem to find it. But this is the video. I have watched it already

Al Yetiim (THE ORPHAN). First Nigerian Arabic Movie


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQ3M3-yIXGI

Used to listened to this in Ilorin back in the 90s when i was in college. Alhaji Ali Agan used to play it and another one like it. He loved them. It was composed by Malay or Indonesians


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=faxvxCH98M0&feature=player_embedded

See, i feel so reluctant to say much on this. I know you enjoy this type of topic.

Demmzy15:
So you ignored all the articles and statements of how the Egyptians and Saudis condemned the action of Trump and now come up with this bollocks?

I already read articles how they "condemned" trump. That's just a dust in our eyes. I simply did not want to post it the article and ppl left comment. Thats why the article that surfaced on Yahoo few days ago which originated in Swiss called it "secret recognition of Jerusalem"

Here, they can't claim to oppose Trump and at the same time have military cooperation with Israel. What type of trash is that?

https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20180108-swiss-newspaper-reveals-secret-military-cooperation-between-saudi-arabia-and-israel/#.WlLkSHxNW4I.facebook

https://www.yahoo.com/news/israeli-minister-reveals-covert-contacts-saudi-arabia-192237992.html

Demmzy15:
[color=#000099]Why did you also ignore the articles of how Saudi has stood with the Palestinians? What kind of hatred is this? So you're implying yahoo somehow got secrets that Saudi and Egypt have recognized Jerusalem as the Zionists capital? I'm seriously disappointed, are you this gullible? I know my questions are much but I'm baffled at how you do things a times. Remember the Qur'an warned against being unjust to those you even hate.

Help yourself: https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20171208-israel-tv-saudi-arabia-egypt-gave-trump-green-light-regarding-jerusalem/

Israel’s News 10 said Saudi Arabia and Egypt gave US President Donald Trump the go ahead to recognise Jerusalem as the capital of Israel and move the US embassy from Tel Aviv to the occupied city.

The channel said the Arab parties’ reactions and condemnations are not genuine and are misleading.

Israeli journalist and head of the Arab desk at the news channel, Zvi Yehezkeli stressed that the announcement could not have been made without coordination between Trump and his regional allies.

“I am not sure about the Arab countries’ reactions to this resolution,” Yehezkeli said, adding that the responses issued so far were not serious.

On Wednesday, the US President Donald Trump announced his decision to formally recognise Jerusalem as Israel’s new capital adding that the American embassy would be moved from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem.

World leaders, from Europe to the Middle East to Australia, slammed the decision as a “unilateral and outside the vision of a negotiated peace between Israelis and Palestinians,” warning of “heightened tensions or even violence across the Middle East.”

Demmzy15:
This should be the other way around, you should read your post before clicking the send button. The thread was why did Abdullah I use Habbani Jews as guards, but you crept in and went off the points by claiming King Abdulaziz(nothing even concerns him with the issue on ground) and Abdullah I were traitors who betrayed Islam and the Ummah. Who does that?

My post was in line. They have long held such risky alliance which makes me doubt their intention. It is now playing out. Both Saudi and Israel are now working together against Iran. Iran being muslim country, which one should Saudi side with?. If you can't see beyond Sunni-Shia on this, i can't help you. I dont understand how iran is a threat to them. This is crazy. Bottomline is, if Saudi and ISrael are working together, how the heck in the world do you think Saudi would not eventually let go of Jerusalem and recognise it as Israel undivided capital?.

Demmzy15:
At times you seriously need to read your post and see how pathetic you sound, "secretly recognized" you say? So you think Muslims lost Jerusalem when Trump made his announcement? Seriously, I've got nothing on this!

a simple google or yahoo search could have helped you straight up in this day of INFORMATION. And I did not say "secretly recognized" . I said media reported in on Yahoo yesterday or 2 days ago. You did me disservice by putting that in my mouth.

Demmzy15:
so you support his assassination?

I don't know if you read to understand or not. This statement of your suggest you did not understand my post. I simply stated how he died. How did that suggests I "supported" the 21 yr old assailant?. Bro, cool down and read before you click 'send' button

Demmzy15:
You seriously need to study history objectively not from some Sheikh who will twist it for you. King Abdulaziz knew what he did as he didn't make any mistake as regards Palestine, while Abdullah I of Jordan, the problem started entirely with his father not him. Whatever he did, he thought it was the best, in fact he proposed that Jews be given 20% of Palestine, while he will rule the entire 80% in addition to present day Syria, Lebanon and Jordan. The Jews actually accepted with other world powers.

He was assassinated in the mosque on a Friday, you say he betrayed the Ummah and Islam, which translates you support his assassination. I see no difference between you and extremists!

Now media reported earlier this week that Saudi and perhaps Egypt secretly recognized Jerusalem as the undivided capital of Israel

Mistakes they made is now playing out a decades later.

tintingz:
I'm agnostic about the beginning of the universe.

The question that need to be answered before this your question is, what is this creator, who is this creator and where does this creator came from?

If I must have a creator, shouldn't this creator also have a higher creator?

Your daddy is your creator while his Creator is the Highest Creator, God. The uncreated Creator.

habbey99:
All praise is due to Allah, we send blessings and salutations upon our beloved prophet Muhammad his household companions and those who are on path of Islam till day of accountability.
Aje in Yoruba simply means money,
and when people are supplicating to one another that "Aje awa oo" our role as a Muslim is to add for the them,Aje awa oo and with the help of Allah,As Allah is the sources of money.
may Allah be pleased with us all
Ameen.
Asalam alaykm warahmatullah wabarakatuhu.

This is what i was trying to say. To PURIFY the meaning, even though they had questionable attributions to it.

tintingz:
Not that I don't want to believe there's a God, How i wish there is a big daddy up there watching over us but the thing is there is no sufficient evidence to prove God likewise we cannot disprove existence of God just the same way we can't disprove the existence of unicorns and fairies! The burden is left for the person who claim.(This is what I'm trying to make Emp.iree understand but he's not getting it because he's too dogmatic).

So, can you define God and which God?

Answer him

Harbioye:
I just need to know your perception of how a supreme God should be?

Demmzy15:
Later you'll accuse others of extremism, so you support his assassination? From this post, I can deduce that you consider both of them to be Kufar but Iran and it's leaders to he pious Muslims.

**spits**

what are you talking about?. Don't support them blindly. Admit they made mistakes, that's all. You can't change the history. Mistakes they made is now playing out a decades later. It was the same mistakes that led to truce btw them and Israel after 6days war.


You'd better not waste your saliva. It takes a while to reproduce

Don't worry buddy, you have answered yourself. But in case you don't know, let me point it out.

tintingz:
can there be sense or conciousness without the brain?

can there be tintingz without his Creator(God)?

Why are you being dishonest to yourself?

same question back to you

And your analogy is kind of flawed, since our sense relies/depend on our brain, you mean Allah is dependent in this universe, he is limited to this world that anything we destroy, destroys part of Allah?

you don't need to switch with around. Your body organs can not function without these senses. Hence, you can not function without God. If someone is paralyzed it means his senses are gone and the body can not function. In another word, if there is no creator, you can not function. Simple isn't?

tintingz:
SMH, I will close your ignorance on this.

Like I said, every part of the brain works together,

The Frontal Lobe is located just behind the skull of the forehead, and it governs our ability to reason, make judgments, organize information and control some motor/muscle functions.

The Parietal Lobe is near the back and top of the head. It’s involved with visual attention, sensation (touch and pressure) and integration of senses.

The Occipital Lobe is located at the back of the skull and controls vision.

The Temporal Lobes are located on each side of the head above the ears. They control hearing and are related to smell, taste and short-term memory (especially visual and verbal).
Source

All these you mentioned are TANGIBLE. Sense however is ABSTRACT. Everything you mentioned are controlled by sense; without sense, they are useless. So i ask you again, where your sense located?

tintingz:
Every part of the brain is the sense, they all function together as the sense, conciousness, thoughts etc, any damage in any part of the brain is a problem.

So I don't understand this your analogy.

You said God is not actually present in this our natural world, then where is God, he must be sitting on a throne somewhere.

See, you can't see your sense nor can you pinpoint where it is. That's the point. This case is closed.

The word is the point, can I recite the Quran passages in the toilet intentionally?

Why would you deliberately go into the public bathroom just to read any book for that matter?. No one beheads you for reading in the bathroom. Stop exaggerating. Next person to use the bathroom alone could beat you up for holding them up to begin with.

tintingz:
Ok, since Allah presence self is not everywhere, where is he actually?

dragging this with you will be endless cycle. I will just give you just illustration. Where is your sense?. If it is in your head, where exactly it is lodged in your head?. When you answer this, only then i can see you have sense.

I decide to run to a public toilet due to a circumstances and i brought out my phone reciting the Quran from it, what do you say about that?

Oh well, you seem to have change your original plan. Here you mentioned phone. Yes, phone may automatically play or replay the app if it already installed. There is no problem with this. Mine acts this way sometimes. What's your point?

tintingz:
Your fellow Muslim above said Allah is not everywhere "physically" but only his knowledge, do you agree?

I know this is where you coming. Thats the verse of Quran and many related verses like that and those verses which attest to His Might, Knowledge, Wisdom and Closeness to us. Therefore, Allah is close to us by His Attributes not His presence Self. So i agree with him. Thats the correct meaning of those verses.

Will I be beheaded if I take the Quran to the public toilet to read, can you do that?

Again, i knew you wanted to mention toilet. You will always find me ahead of you. So what cause do you have to read Quran in public toilet where everyone defecates?. How do you feel comfortable reading there?. Even one feels uncomfortable reading ordinary book in the toilet. So i ask again, toilet is meant for relieving your and leave. It is a temporary uncomfortable place. That's why they build libraries.

you are just perambulating as i said before. I dont know if yiu take pleasure for doing this. They have answered you, isnt?

tintingz:
Two questions you need to answer,

# Is Allah everywhere?

"There is no one to share His dominion, nor does He take an aide or supporter from His creatures. He is nearer to man than man's own jugular vein." Al-Qur'an 50:16

# Can the Quran be recite anywhere?

And is there anything stopping you ?

tintingz:
This is my first discussion about the limitation of Allah's word.

Allah does not have limits.

tintingz:
I'm not derailing this thread and it's not irrelevant, every discussion, argument are relevant except you're not ready for critical thinking.

My discussion here is still about the unlimited and limited of Allah's word a.k.a the Quran.

if I count how many threads you have been saying this, it is probably ten. And you are duly answered

Why is tintingz keeps derailing this thread with the same irrelevant topic?. You are derailing this thread again like you did to the other one.

If you want to be Atheist that's your problem

Was he not the same king that took bribe from the British in the name of 'jizya', he and king Abdul aziz ibn saud.

They betrayed Islam and the ummah. He was gunned down by a 21 yr old Palestinian at aqsa masjid on jummah at a janaza.