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Properties › Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Empiree: 3:32pm On Oct 03, 2017

AngelicBeing:
I hope they sustain it and that it actually gets to those who really needs it to setup SME's, and not for some people to use it for parties and marrying more wives

Good to know. Thanks for heads up. Now this is the problem you highlighted up there. Whoever does that doesn't deserve good governance in Nigeria. Such can blame govt all they want.

This is like "bailout package".

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Politics › Re: Nairaland Says No To Secessionists by Empiree: 3:28pm On Oct 03, 2017

ikpummadu, ^

I don't even understand what you said up there.

Islam › Re: The Lessons To Learn From Prophet Musa (pbuh) And Prophet Khidr(pbuh) Meeting. by Empiree: 2:54pm On Oct 03, 2017

ShaheedBinAliyu:
SHIA AND SUFI = Horror show .. kaafirs..

You have never made any sense undecided

Jokes Etc › Re: My Hilarious Picture Album by Empiree: 1:57am On Oct 03, 2017*

[quote author=Rilwayne001 post=39171214][/quote]tola9ja sent me this video. It reminds me of "beske" from ilorin.

See mouth cheesy

The guy feel do radio presenter. He got the swag and quality voice

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOTADArCci0

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Foreign Affairs › Re: Picture Of Stephen Paddock, Las Vegas Mass Shooter by Empiree: 11:40pm On Oct 02, 2017

Nigerian Christians Are The Most Brainwashed Brainless Anti-peace Elements.

Majority of Them Are Clowns

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Islam › Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by Empiree: 9:30pm On Oct 02, 2017

Chai

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Islam › Re: Ashura Day 2017: Shia Slash Themselves (Viewers Discretion Advised) by Empiree: 8:59pm On Oct 02, 2017

Properties › Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Empiree: 8:18pm On Oct 02, 2017

EgunMogaji:
I’m really moved and truly hoping it’s true.

But I just don’t see how any one will make such an offer of loan, unless I’m not reading it correctly.

Now, I can see an entrepreneur setting something up and then hiring folks. But to just hand out money? Okay o.

No doubt there MUST be hefty conditions behind the screen. I have watched many yoruba movies to understand that cheesy

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Foreign Affairs › Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting: Gunman Identified As A 64-Year-Old Man by Empiree: 8:14pm On Oct 02, 2017

Politics

Properties › Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Empiree: 8:02pm On Oct 02, 2017

EgunMogaji:
For me it reads like a scam but hopefully it’s true so folks can take proper advantage of the opportunity to better themselves.

Everything is SUSPICION in nigeria from its very creation. Just so hard to believe even truth cheesy

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Foreign Affairs › Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting: Gunman Identified As A 64-Year-Old Man by Empiree: 7:57pm On Oct 02, 2017

Edu3Again:
Na Muslim terrorist
Na only Islam that is a terrorist based religion

ISIS will never claim Christian.
They only claim their fellow terrorist Muslims.
https://twitter.com/GuardianNigeria/status/914885746036740096

LIAR. LYINING TERRORIST

He is not less than christian terrorist.

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Foreign Affairs › Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting: Gunman Identified As A 64-Year-Old Man by Empiree: 5:55pm On Oct 02, 2017

ivolt:
Yes check the definition again.
Mutallab is not a pick pocket, robber or kidnapper, he intended to spread terror, so
the tag is deserved.

And the terrorist in recent Las Vegas shootings INTENDED to spread terror. Fair enough?

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Foreign Affairs › Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting: Gunman Identified As A 64-Year-Old Man by Empiree: 5:53pm On Oct 02, 2017

Edu3Again:
Na Muslim terrorist
Na only Islam that is a terrorist based religion

ISIS will never claim Christian.
They only claim their fellow terrorist Muslims.
https://twitter.com/GuardianNigeria/status/914885746036740096

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Foreign Affairs › Re: Mass Shooting In Las Vegas Concert by Empiree: 4:01pm On Oct 02, 2017

Generalkaycee:
The Muslims refuse our culture and try to impose their culture on us. I reject them, and this is not only my duty toward my culture-it is toward my values, my principles, my civilization.

Promismike:
Its like the religion of peace is on evangelism.

Allahu alkuba!!!!

But your BIBLE says PROOF ALL THINGS AND HOLD FAT TO WHICH IS GOOD.

What do you all have to say now grin

A 64 year old fool CHRISTIAN TERRORIST kiss

Now they gonna say he has mental issues

Foreign Affairs › Re: Mass Shooting In Las Vegas Concert by Empiree: 3:54pm On Oct 02, 2017

chynie:
I hope is not them o
trying to convert ppl to allah by force by fire

He's a Christian terrorist undecided

You said you hoped not and it is not grin

Foreign Affairs › Re: Mass Shooting In Las Vegas Concert by Empiree: 3:53pm On Oct 02, 2017

Joephat:
I won't be surprise if he happens to be a Nigerian Muslim.

Us should have stopped all the Muslims from entry us.

Islam is a murderous religion

You are a disgrace. What do you have to say now?

Islam › Re: Which Islamic Sect Do Prophet Muhammad Belongs To? by Empiree: 1:57pm On Oct 02, 2017

AlBaqir:
# You love making fun of your ignorance. I have bolded the huruf for you in Arabic.

Emp.iree please how do you "mark" in screnshots?

like attachement?

Click on 3-dots at the upper right corner on your screenshot object. Click on Edit. Click on Decoration. Click on Drawing.

Your phone may have different procedure

If it is on the computer you have to use Paint

Islam › Re: What Is Wrong With Tintingz? by Empiree: 2:57am On Oct 02, 2017

AgentOfAllah:
You practically just evaded my thought experiment and questions, and then started alleging that I alleged; and prescribing my supposed position to me. For the record, I never alleged anything, you've just completely made up nonsense in my name, nor am I positioned with the Jabarites, Qadarites or parasites...this is your just your invention.

Oh well, at least it cannot be said that I did not try to have a meaningful conversation with you!

no problem. It is not too late. You can make up the third extreme misguided angel you called "PARASITE" to configure a triangle. We already have Jabarites, Qadarites and now PARASITE cheesy

Islam › Re: A Peek At False Manhaj Of Muhammad Awwal Jabata Al-haddaadee At-takfeeree by Empiree: 2:40am On Oct 02, 2017*

Demmzy15:
I never said so, but why won't you know the meaning of "athar"?

You are too much. Why are you dwelling on this?. Just like some who adhere to Asharites school, but have no idea what is Ashariyyah or who is Imam Abu al-Hasan al-Ash'ari . Myself didnt know all these terms: Athari, Ashari, Maturidi, sufi, salafi etc until 10yrs ago.

The only ones i knew besides just Islam and muslim for first time in 1998 were "SuShi" i:e sunni and shia. However, i would expect the guy to know "Athariyyah" due to his zeal. This goes to show you that he only learned keu under Jabata cheesy

Islam › Re: A Peek At False Manhaj Of Muhammad Awwal Jabata Al-haddaadee At-takfeeree by Empiree: 11:57pm On Oct 01, 2017

Demmzy15:
how on earth does an adherent of Salafiyyah be ignorant of the term "athari"?

Is it a must for a salafi to say "I follow athari creed"?.

Family › Re: I Want To Get Married But My Family Is Insisting I Must Settle Everybody First by Empiree: 9:30pm On Oct 01, 2017*

hdeeman:
i have always have a very close relationship with my siblings while growing up, which i have tried much to see that everyone is comfortable. i don,t based in Nigeria, but my family has always been my first priority. but everything changed immediately i want to get married. that i have to settle everyone first before getting married. they automatically ganged against me, that if i don,t settle that no one will come for my marriage. this really pissed me off cos this is the same people i have been struggling for over 10 years now. am no longer a kid if i start to settle i will never get married. this is really disturbing me, they only call you on phone when they need something. it really hurt when people you love dearly treat you like this. how do i go about this cos i have decided what ever will happen let it happen, let me look for my own life. i owe no one a dime, every struggle is me and me alone,

Sir/ma'am, you owe none of them except your parents. I would imagine (at least) your mother should pushed you to get married regardless of circumstances.

They don't have to attend to your wedding at all. If you have to take care of them until they are "comfortable", it is not gonna happen. There is no time they get comfortable. Just tell your parents about your potential spouse on the phone ( if none them is with you in diaspora). Get friends, Imam or pastor. Hire photographer and go ahead with your wedding.

This is 21 century. Things have changed. It may cost you lots of $$ to bring your family over for your wedding.

Do what you have to do. They know bcus you are single is the reason. You are getting married is a threat to them. Once you are married, whoever is lazy to find a job will get off the couch and work. I am not saying to cut family ties. Just keep them at arms' length. And no matter what, you owe your parents. Never forget their monthly allowance. They are the ONLY folks you are obligated to. NONE ELSE. And be sure you clear your debts with whoever sponsored you from your family so that they don't get to hold it against you.

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Islam › Re: What Is Wrong With Tintingz? by Empiree: 7:20pm On Oct 01, 2017

tintingz:
^^^ Empi.ree,

You started your post by saying " you understand our misunderstanding and frustration" no one is misunderstanding anything and frustrated, i think you guys are the ones that doesn't know what destiny and freewill means or maybe your religious manuscript is confused and contradicting, non of you as been able to define destiny and freewill to us.

I was expecting you to define destiny and freewill instead you were contradicting more on your statements.

I think is is better you define destiny and freewill to us instead of writing down baseless epistle. By the definition we can reason out how both works.

And lastly, court don't rely on destiny, court base their judgment on evidence, there is no evidence for destiny nor freewill, it is only an illusion spread by religious folks.

Definitions?. You confused?. And whats court has to do with this?. We are are dealing with free will and destiny here. If you want to talk about crimes, it is a different topic entirely.

destiny and free will are self defined. You never asked for definitions undecided

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Islam › Re: A Peek At False Manhaj Of Muhammad Awwal Jabata Al-haddaadee At-takfeeree by Empiree: 7:02pm On Oct 01, 2017

Demmzy15:
If he doesn't know the meaning of small "athariyyah", why do you guys now brand him a "salafi"? Why?!!!!

Even though the phrase was around for a very long time, he is not obligated to know the word "athariyyah" bcus it is not in the Qur'an and sunnah. It is innovated word used to describe those who subscribe to strict textualism in interpreting the Quran and sunnah. There are those who adhere to salafi manhaj but may not know some of the salafi terms. Same applies to others

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Islam › Re: Muslim Rulers And Ties With Non-muslim Governments by Empiree: 6:25pm On Oct 01, 2017

Demmzy15:
Then what exactly?

Answer is in this thread of yours shocked

Islam › Re: Muslim Rulers And Ties With Non-muslim Governments by Empiree: 5:34pm On Oct 01, 2017

ShaheedBinAliyu:
Nice one OP . . as long as its business. .kosi wahala

We not talking about biz here. Islam for does not forbids trade with non-muslims.

Islam › Re: A Peek At False Manhaj Of Muhammad Awwal Jabata Al-haddaadee At-takfeeree by Empiree: 5:08pm On Oct 01, 2017

ShaheedBinAliyu:
Who be athariyyah o. . mi o gbo ri

It Is the aqeedah of Imam Hanbali, Shaykh Sayyidina Abdul Qadir jilani, Ibn Taymiyah, and majority of salafi are of "athariyyah" aqeeda

Olodo ni e shocked

Islam › Re: What Is Wrong With Tintingz? by Empiree: 4:49pm On Oct 01, 2017*

tintingz docZeey agentofallah:
^^ Empir.ee.

# Why does God command? Does he command because it is good for humans or he command because he feels like commanding?

# Are humans actions base on freewill or destiny? You said what will happen will happen and it has been known and written down, does our actions depend on what has been written down, known by God?

It is either destiny doesn't exist or freewill doesn't exist, mixing the two will always clash.

I can understand all your misunderstanding and frustration. I believe in Qadr 100%. it is part of articles of faith. It is backed uo by both islamic sources. This issue of predestination and free will s historical long debate. It led to one of the earliest sectarian schisms in the Muslim community, between the Qadarites, who believed in absolute human free will (Allah has no control over us), and the Jabarites, who believed in absolute determinism and fatalism (we have no control over our actions). Each of these groups developed an extreme and misguided theology. If Allah has no control, then why call upon Allah in prayer? And if we have no control over our actions and fate, why do any good deeds at all?

The Quran and Sunnah take a middle path between the two historical extremes, upholding both the sovereignty of Allah and the responsibility of humankind. From a purely rational standpoint, these two aspects seem mutually exclusive; in other words, it seems they cannot both be true. However, we have to remember that Allah exists outside of time and space, beyond the cosmic veil in the Unseen. By contrast, we human beings can only conceive of realities within the framework of time and space. Divine providence, or predestination, is a reality that exists beyond time and space, which means we are simply incapable of conceiving it with our limited rational faculties.

For this reason, Allah communicated the reality of providence using the tools of language, in particular, literary imagery which in Qura’nic science involves “expressing a mental meaning by use of sensory and visualized pictures.”

Miss docZeey quoted a hadth up there about human creation and destiny in our mother's womb. This means we are set upon a path, with our fate ahead of us, as soon as we enter this world. Yet our will and our actions are meaningful because, by Allah’s will, they are the causes of changing course. Since Allah is in control of destiny, the only way to secure a good fate is to appeal to Allah through worship, prayer, and good deeds. We have no absolute control by ourselves. In this sense, the “pens have been lifted and the pages have dried.”

The Prophet ﷺ said:

"Be mindful of Allah and He will protect you. Be mindful of Allah and you will find Him before you. If you ask, ask from Allah. If you seek help, seek help from Allah. Know that if the nations gather together to benefit you, they will not benefit you unless Allah has decreed it for you. And if the nations gather together to harm you, they will not harm you unless Allah has decreed it for you. The pens have been lifted and the pages have dried."

AgentofAllah, remember i said earlier that the most important thing is knowing God, worshipping Him and making istighfar?. The above hadith reiterates that fact. Notice that in this hadith, the Prophet ﷺ informed us, through his companion Ibn Abbas (ra), that the decree has already been made. The pages have been dried. Even so, the Prophet ﷺ prescribed action: to be mindful of Allah and to seek help from Allah.

The important point to understand is that everything happens by the will of Allah, despite Allah not being pleased with everything that is allowed to happen. There are two ways in which “the will of Allah” is understood: the universal will and the legislative will. The universal will encompasses everything that is allowed to be, both good and evil. The legislative will consists of what Allah wants from us of good deeds.

One of the early scholars in the creed of Al-Tahawi, writes:

The researchers among Ahl al-Sunnah say that ‘will’ in the book of Allah is two types: a will that is preordained, universal, and creative, and a will that is religious, commanding, and legislating. Thus, the legislative will includes what Allah loves and is pleased with, and the universal will is what is willed, including all things that occur. The confusion that led to sectarianism in early Islamic history was due to the Qadarites’ and Jabarites’ failure to understand this point.

Ibn Abi al-‘Izz writes:

The origin of the error is from equating between the will of desire and the will of enacting, and between love and pleasure. Thus, the Jabarites and the Qadarites equate them both, then they disagree. The Jabarites said all of existence is by decree and measure, so it is loved and pleasing to Allah. The Qadarites said sinful disobedience is not beloved and pleasing to Allah, so it cannot be ordained and decreed by him; it is outside of His will and creation. Yet the distinction between what is willed and what is loved has been made in the Book, the Sunnah, and sound instinct.

To sum this up, the Jabarites said Allah decrees good and evil and therefore loves them both, while the Qadarites said what is evil is not by the decree of Allah—which means it is created by some other power. The Jabarites denied the moral responsibility of humankind; the Qadarites denied the full power of the Creator.

So AgentofAllah, the above answers your post up there. You seem to alleged that everything is decreed and we have no free will therein. If i get you right, your position is that of Jabarites. Every muslim is required to take middle part. The Quran and Sunnah are clear in expressing the moral responsibility of humankind.

Allah said:

Each soul is responsible for its own actions; no soul will bear the burden of another. You will all return to your Lord in the end, and He will tell you the truth about your differences.

This is the whole purpose of life; the great test culminating at the Day of Judgment would not make sense unless the judgment was just and meaningful. Hence, Allah delegated will to humankind to be used in the service of good. Our will is “free will” in the sense that we are not forced to do what we do. We are rewarded or punished in the Hereafter based upon what we did with our God-given will.

If you disagree @ "agentofAllah", then, there is no need to chase, arrest and imprison robbers, fraudsters, scammers, BH, thieves etc bcus they are destined to do what they do and have no free will. Sorry buddy, there are checks and balances.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Says "Love Your Enemy" Christians Say "Enemy Die By Fire" by Empiree: 1:46am On Oct 01, 2017

geoworldedu:
I keep wondering while Christians hate satan instead of loving him. Afterall, Jesus says, LOVE YOUR ENEMIES. I think christians should stop condeming the satanists who love Satan the enemy.

This should be directed at plainbibletruth. He and his fellow christians don't love this great enemy in direct conflict with their biblical injunctions.

But in is islam, we call a spade a spade. God says in Quran "take not My enemy and your enemy as friend".

Christian version of "love" is only in the Book (theory). When when it comes to practical aspect, they hate their enemies like kilode cheesy

That's why i don't take them serious.

Meanwhile, some funny bizarre church names cry

Islam › Re: What Is Wrong With Tintingz? by Empiree: 1:18am On Oct 01, 2017*

AgentOfAllah:
This is not the question I asked. Why can't you just be direct? I asked if Allah knows for sure whether I'll be going to heaven or Hell? Does Allah 100% know my destination? It's really a yes/no question., not that complicated

You have actually displayed your free will here right now. Depending on how you utilize your free will determines your abode. Allah's knowledge encompasses ALL Things. Nothing is written against you unless what your deeds brought forth.

What you are asking is like Atheist asks theist: Can God do anything?

Theist: Yes

Atheist: Can He(God) make the rock so big and nothing can move it?

Thesit: Yes

Atheist: That means He(God) can't move it?

This last question is technical. This is where you need not just knowledge to counter but logical reasoning. So the logical answer is very simply. God is not a superman but creator. All he does is to command. God doesn't do anything that no longer make him God. He is above that.

Now to the issue of your free will, we all know God is all-powerful, and He is all knowing. Now if God possesses these attributes, and possesses these attributes to perfection, which is what we would expect from God, then He would naturally know everything that happens before they happen by virtue of His all knowing perfect knowledge. God does not need to wait until you do something for him to learn about it, if that were the case, that God didn’t know what you would do until you do it, this would then mean that God is not all knowing, and if God is not all knowing and is not perfect in his knowledge then he cannot be God. So again, based on the fact that God’s knowledge is perfect, that he knows everything, this means he also knows what you will do before you even do it because his knowledge is perfect.

So for example, God knew you would read this thread before you ever read it based on His perfect attribute of being All knowing, however so he didn’t force or compel you to read this thread. You by your own free will and choice, decided to come and read this thread, God simply knew you were going to read it before you read it, because he is All knowing, God didn’t need to wait until you read this thread to learn about the matter. Now even though God has already recorded everything that will happen, again this is based on His perfect attribute of knowledge, you yourself are not privy to that recorded document. So while God knows what you will do today, tomorrow, and next week, you yourself do not know. Hence people cannot use this as some excuse that their free will is somehow determined and they can’t really do anything because what will happen will happen, indeed what will happen will happen, but you don’t know what will happen now do you? Hence what happens is based on your choices, you can’t simply put your hands up and say ‘well hey my actions have already been recorded so who cares’ because you have no idea about your future actions, at the end of the day it’s your choices that are being made that lead to the actions you are doing. Paradise and Hell are created for a purpose. You choose which one you want base in your free will and actions. Nothing is written against you. The most important thing is Knowing God, Worshipping God, Thanking God, and making istighfar (ebe) rather than fill your heart with arrogance and ask silly questions undecided

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Islam › Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by Empiree: 9:36pm On Sep 30, 2017

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Islam › Re: Muslim Rulers And Ties With Non-muslim Governments by Empiree: 4:08pm On Sep 30, 2017

Demmzy15:
Seriously, you're too funny! So because some Americans or British inaugurate and visit centers in Saudi Arabia, it automatically means they control the printing press? What are you even saying sef?

Since when Saudi and the West have had relations, the public life of Shariah compliance hasn't changed, in fact it's even better which shows you that the Americans and the rest don't really have an influence on the country's religiosity. So how can they now control the printing press? And if you're still persistent on this assertion, we need you to provide the addresses of the printing press under America.

I don't know how this relates to my comment. Smh

Besides, if anyone should follow the Dajjal(in reality the Shi'a Mahdi), it'll be Iranian Jews. We already see that Iran is hypocritic to have dealt with Israel during the Iran-Iraq War. Even Saddam fired missiles into Israel, you can't chase out the Zionists by chest beatings!

this is why I quoted hadith to show you that Iran ain't 100% free. The hadith shows some iranians would have ties with zionists, but doesn't necessarily mean their govt. I don't even think you understood my post cool

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