About "seeing" God, i dont think you understand that yet. No human can see Allah with our naked eyes. The phrase is more like metaphorical but it is okay if you dont feel comfortable with it. Allah says in the Quran that vision comprehends Him not but He comprehends all visions.
However if someone says he actually sees God with these material eyes is a liar. Like self made "sheikh" Jabaru did in the 80s 90s. He blasphemed. But if Angel needs to communicate with waliy, a waliy may have to be in the state of "malakut" to be able to balance up
Sad, really sad. This is what i was telling brothers some times ago that ruling class would definitely influenced various fatawa and especially that of Sheikh Bin Baz(ra) allowing foreign troops to have their bases in the land of nabi(saw). But their murid support his verdict regardless by given silly excuses. This is what they claim "pristine Islam", by takfring Muslims but submit and surrender to other than Allah, but they would tell you this is "mundane"?. smh
When Sheikh Imran insists Saudi was funding !s!s he was right.
true2god: I, upset? What qualities do Islam have? Is it religious intolerance (Quran 9:28)? Is it the sanctioning of pedophillia (Quran 65:4)? Is it the promotion of enmity and hatred (Quran 5:51)? Is it the sanctification of terror (Quran 2:171-2, sahih Bukhari 4:52:220)?
If the above are good qualities then Islam is a stupid religion for the early men.
A truth seeking christian can see through your gimmicks. I dont have your time. sura 65:4 is pedophilia? You further proved to me how unqualified you are.
And i am sure that i explained 5:51 to you all over 2yrs ago. And there is no need to waste my time going through that again knowing too well you aren't interested in what we have to say.
true2god: You can't choose what you want in the hadith, you either reject the entire hadith or accept it in totality. Some Muslims have rejected the entire hadith.
Even your Koran is not reliable hence the tasfir. It is the most poorly written document I have ever seen.
Let's just say you upset bcus your religion does not have qualities that islam has. The reason I am even relunctant to respond to you is that, you have long been with muslims here and you can not effectively defend your religious practices and creed. Hence, you are not qualified to point accusing fingers at islamic text. Your partner plainbibletruth already messed up. For that reason, none of you qualified to reprimand islam.
The only favor i can do for you is that, you need to first all study your religion. You have no established and obligatory way of worship prescribed by Jesus you claimed to follow. In that case you are wasting your precious time with me unless you want me to keep takingyou for a ride which i am good at.
This reminds me of a brother who called himself draggnet. He said "the so called friends of Allah are mad people". He was actually referring to Sheikh Jamiu Bulala(RA) in that thread
plainbibletruth: This is the religion of Jesus Christ: "Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14: 6
So someone asks you whats Jesus's religion and you say "Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me."
Interesting!
And you want to teach me islam?. You are a joke. You make NO SENSE
true2god: If you dnt believe in sira rasul allahh by Ibn Ishaq, where did get the information that an Angel appeared to him, in a cave, from? Where did you get the story of his Inlaw, waraqa, from?
Who told Mohammed he was prophet, angel Gabriel, khadija or waraqa? Where can we get this answer, the Koran or the sira?
did you miss where i said this?
Empiree: However, any hadith or stories written by anyone that in not in harmony with revelation(Qur'an) is rejected. Qur'an is criterial with which everything is scaled.
true2god: They are ashamed of the history of their prophet. Instead of facing the truth, they will rather attack the messenger, Ibn Ishaq, who wrote the biography long before bukhari compiled the hadith, and long before the oldest tasfir were written.
Muslims will rather reject their own books instead of accepting the truth therein.
true2god: [s]Then why did you falsely claimed that Ibn Ishaq said he wrote falsehood about the prophet of Islam in order to sustain himself? You gave me a reference, that is page 321 of Ibn Ishaq sira rasul Allah which turned out to be a lie. Don't you know I have the complete works of Ibn Ishaq on my laptop to confirm any lie you might tell me? Bros respect yourself.
You said Islam is not bases on stories written by human, that is funny. Who wrote the Koran? Angel Gabriel or allahh? Who compiled your so-called hadith? Angel Gabriel or Bukhari? Bros, you know nothing about Islam.
The quran and the hadith, in your house, are written by men, long after the death of your prophet. There was nothing like the Quran when Mohammed was alive. The Qur'an you have at home was compiled by the instruction of uthman, the 3rd khalifa, after he ordered all the surviving sahabas to start penning down what they memorized from the alleged 'revelations' Mohammed received from one entity whom he called allahh. The Quran is the compilation of what the sahabas claimed they hear allahh's messenger got as a revelation and there is many variance of the compilations. Some of the 'revelations' were either forgotten or eaten by goat. See Aisha's testimony below:
Sunan Ibn Majah, Book of Nikah, Hadith # 1934:
Narrated Aisha 'The verse of stoning and of suckling an adult ten times were revealed, and they were (written) on a paper and kept under my bed. When the Messenger of Allah (SAWW.) expired and we were preoccupied with his death, a goat entered and ate away the paper."
Sahih Muslim 3422—Amra reported that she heard Aisha discussing fosterage which (makes marriage) unlawful; and she (Aisha) said: There was revealed in the Holy Qur'an ten clear sucklings, and then five clear (sucklings) .
Sahih Muslim 3417—Allah's Apostle said: Being suckled once or twice, or one suckling or two, do not make marriage unlawful.
Sahih Muslim 3421—Aisha reported that it had been revealed in the Holy Qur’an that ten clear sucklings make the marriage unlawful, then it was abrogated by five sucklings and Allah’s Apostle died and it was before that time (found) in the Holy Qur’an (and recited by the Muslims).
If you look at all the above hadith and sunnah, you will discover that, going by Aisha's own words, the revelation of stoning and suckling was not included in the Koran. It is not my word, it is Aisha's own testimony. Who do I believe, with respect to Islam? Your claim or Aisha's testimony?[/s]
true2god: You need to understand a simple comprehension. What the guy is saying is that Mohammed, going by what th Qur'an and the hadith say about him, can never be a moral example to follow.
My earlier post quoted from Quran sums my point and it stands.
Sorry,buddy. Islam is not based on stories written by humans. Islam is base on Quran and valid or authentic ahadith. However, any hadith or stories written by anyone that in not in harmony with revelation(Qur'an) is rejected. Qur'an is criterial with which everything is scaled.
Quran does not proclaims virtues of nabi Muhammad(SAW) with tenets of faith or anything else EXCEPT good character.
Indeed in the Messenger of Allah (Muhammad SAW) you have an exalted standard of character to follow for him who hopes in (the Meeting with) Allah and the Last Day and remembers Allah much.
I have no choice but to give you the whole thing bcus there is no credit amount for intended credit of yours. You only got a question wrong and by my calculation, you should get 9k but there is no 9k credit available from my company here. Thats why you get the whole thing, in case you're wondering. Enjoy
Islam › Re: ...... by Empiree: 6:12pm On Jun 25, 2017*. Modified: 6:40pm On Jun 25, 2017
FNG1: No. How are we sure you're the one? Lemme call mynd if she ban dis account we will be rest assured you're the same person with 2 account.
What do u suggest?
Me too encountering NL error messages. Says i sent too many anonymous messages but i got your number. @FNG1, i cant reply u unfortunately bcus of NL errors. Hola at me here and ID urself so that i know it is you c*****dotcom