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ikupakuti:
No, it was 1989 I think feb or march.

Emp.iree:
Still on it

plainbibletruth:
It is interesting that when you are unable to defend the quran you resort to DEFLECTION – you shift to the Bible, confuse issues by bringing up different matters at the same time and excite yourself that you have done a good job.

In reality what you have succeeded in doing is behave like the Ostrich – bury your head in the ground and hoping that the ISLAMIC PROBLEM goes away. You prefer FANTASY LAND to the real world.

My comments about the Bible remain. The Bible is on a much higher class than the quran. You just have to live with that TRUTH.

When I said that the quran is different it was not a compliment but the opposite; but maybe you need to take some English comprehension lessons to improve your ability to know simple contrasts.

Quran makes claims that can be proven to be wrong. E.g. that the earth is flat Q.88:20; that sperm is produced between the backbone and the ribs Q.86:6-7, etc.

Quran advocates VIOLENCE against those who do not believe in islam.

The quran CLAIMS to be a copy of a book that existed in heaven and then revealed to Mohamed; how come then that portions of it were later ‘abrogated’ – did the abrogation take place also in the copy of the book in heaven? In which case Allah did not quite know what he wanted and even before creating man and was already changing his views on matters affecting man.

Is it about Adam’s creation, who the first muslim was, whether there is reward for unbelievers, the food people in hell eat, on whether there is compulsion in religion or not? The list is endless.

So on what basis do you believe that the quran is really the word of (a supreme?) Allah?

Have muslims been sold a LIE which they have swallowed hook line and sinker?

Jesus said “I am the way and the Truth and the life; no one comes to the Father but through me” John 14:6

truthwins:
Next !!!

plainbibletruth:
A man may be muddled up and do odd things. That may affect only him and no one else.

But when a religion’s holy book, the Quran is a confusing and a tedious book then that affects untold number of people.

You may or may not agree with the content of the Bible, but one thing you can agree with is that it is a readable book. Its stories are appealing and what it teaches are thought provoking. Its language is clear and makes for most people to understand it.

The quran is very different. The author(s) of the quran seems to be very confused, unable to communicate their thoughts sensibly and often jump from one subject to another in the same sentence.

Every other thing is confusing and needs interpretation.

You don’t need a book of interpretation to make sense of the Bible. Even though it claims to be a clear book, easy to understand, clearly explained, and with no doubts in it, Muslims know that without interpretation the quran cannot be understood. Hence the several voluminous books of interpretation written to help Muslims understand it.

The irony is that this has worked to the advantage of Islam. Because the quran is confusing, Muslims can twist it whichever way they want. They can literally talk from both sides of the mouth on any single issue quoting the quran as their source.

Consequently that single book has become a source of problem for both its adherents and others more than one man’s innocent odd behaviour can be to anyone around him.

emekaRaj:
Subhanalah Dude am a Muslim, a friend of Allah

Kul Inna salat WA nusuki WA mahayaya WA mamati lilahi rabil alamin.

Kashf Ko Kashf ni

Well theirs alot we need to learn, but how do we learn? by sharing our stories, I hav shared mine
But I think I hav said anough here, I will like someone else to come in an share their stories too so I can learn too

Salam

LadunaI:
Thanks @emp.iree for this . Please would you kindly concentrate on this type of educative post, rather than engaging or replying some posts of no benefit.

Please post more on above subject matter for people to learn more. Those are things that enable us to solidify our understanding of these experiences. Pls continue with rest of the book...

Thanks