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annunaki2:
You must really feel pained, ashamed and betrayed that the religion you were erroneously brought up to believe is from God turns out in reality to be a fake satanic religion that was started by a psychopath. I really feel your pain.

Start gasping on this fella





Chancellor Angela Merkel said that Germans have failed to grasp how Muslim immigration has transformed their country and will have to come to terms with more mosques than churches throughout the countryside, according to the Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung daily.

“Our country is going to carry on changing, and integration is also a task for the society taking up the task of dealing with immigrants,” Ms. Merkel told the daily newspaper. “For years we’ve been deceiving ourselves about this. Mosques, for example, are going to be a more prominent part of our cities than they were before.”
Germany, with a population of 4-5 million Muslims, has been divided in recent weeks by a debate over remarks by the Bundesbank’s Thilo Sarrazin, who argued Turkish and Arab immigrants were failing to integrate and were swamping Germany with a higher birth rate.
The Chancellor’s remarks represent the first official acknowledgement that Germany, like other European countries, is destined to become a stronghold of Islam. She has admitted that the country will soon become a stronghold.
In France, 30% of children age 20 years and below are Muslims. The ratio in Paris and Marseille has soared to 45%. In southern France, there are more mosques than churches.

The situation within the United Kingdom is not much different. In the last 30 years, the Muslim population there has climbed from 82,000 to 2.5 million. Presently, there are over 1000 mosques throughout Great Britain – – many of which were converted from churches.

In Belgium, 50% of the newborns are Muslims and reportedly its Islamic population hovers around 25%. A similar statistic holds true for The Netherlands.
It’s the same story in Russia where one in five inhabitants is a Muslim.

Muammar Gaddafi once stated that “There are signs that Allah will grant victory to Islam in Europe without sword, without gun, without conquest. We don’t need terrorists; we don’t need homicide bombers. The 50 plus million Muslims (in Europe) will turn it into the Muslim Continent within a few decades.”
The numbers support him.
http://spinzon.com/muslim-immigration-has-transformed-their-countr/

tintingz:
Was gay bible revealed to the Jewish prophets?

You should rather ask which of the Bible today was revealed to Jesus and i will gladly tell you none of them was.

tintingz:
They differ in Quran reading which means, they read different types of Quran(whether dialects or version) just like the Jews and Christians,

That's clearly you view not the view of ENTIRE muslims.

so Uthman sent for Quran with Hafsah(which ever version it was), appointed some folks to rewrite the Quran and burn other copies(am yet to know what this copies are).

YOu keep saying "version". It is OBVIOUS you appear to have your ulterior motives. What is being discussed here is "Mushaf"


What is Mushaf?.

The Islamic term al-Qur'ān means 'the Recitation', denoting its content. When referring to the physical bound volume, some use the term mushaf. ... The literal meaning of mus'haf is "The manuscript bound between two boards".


Again, no question of "version" here. Thse different "mushaf" exist today but Quran is standardized with one whihc is Qurayshi.

Quran's challenge stands, produce those "other versions" of Quran and let's see.

tintingz:
The burnt six Quran style.

With respect to burning copies,


Imam al-Bukhari narrates in his Sahih (6:183-184) from Anas ibn Malik (RA) that Hudhayfa ibn al-Yaman came to `Uthman at the time the people of Sham were battling for the conquest of Armenia and Azerbaijan [~year 25H] with the people of Iraq. Their divergences in Qur'anic reading had alarmed Hudhayfa, so he said to `Uthman: "O Commander of the Believers! Rescue (adrik) this Umma before they differ over the Book the way the Jews and Christians differed." Whereupon `Uthman wrote to Hafsah: "Send us the folios (suhuf) so that we copy them then we shall return them to you." Hafsa then sent them to `Uthman who ordered Zayd ibn Thabit, `Abd Allah ibn al-Zubayr, Sa`id ibn al-`As, and `Abd Allah ibn al-Harith ibn Hisham who copied those folios into the volumes (masahif). `Uthman said to the group - the three Qurayshis: "If you find yourselves differing, [the three of] you and Zayd ibn Thabit in anything of the Qur'an, write it in the tongue of the Quraysh. For it was not revealed but in their tongue." They did [as instructed] and when they finished copying the folios into the volumes, `Uthman returned the folios to Hafsa, sent one mushaf to each region from those they had copied, then ordered that all other [copies] of the Qur'an in each and every folio or volume be burnt.


So clearly, their is no question of version here. You simply made up your own. It is rather dealing with dialects

tintingz:
The Al-furqan.

The burnt six Quran style.

Sorry, the so called "al furqan" is not Quran revealed to nabi(SAW). It is a complete different content. The evil book "the true furqan" was written in the way of the bible and it will never be acceptable by those whose heart are immersed in Iman. Imagine the book was in existence since 1999 but in 2017 it is not even recognized.

Version ko fashion ni

tintingz:
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I keeo telling you that translation(tafsir) and interpretation(tawil) are not versions of Quran. Quran is in Arabic. So Yusuf Ali, Musin Khan, Pickthall etc are translations of the meaning. For example

Yusuf Ali

In the name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful


MUhammad Pickthall

In the name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful.


Sahih International

In the name of Allah, the Entirely Merciful, the Especially Merciful

These translations are CHOICES used by translators. They are not versions of Quran



But original arabic Quran reads Bismillah Rahman Rahim


That arabic ^ is the same in ALL Quran worldwide. So bring me evidence otherwise if any. As for interpretation, Quran itself speaks about methodology in sura Imran. It says some verses are PLAIN and CLEAR which many of us can understand. The other verses are tobe interpreted by well grounded and firm believers. They are called "MUTASHABIAT" i:e not entirely clear. These verse need tawil (interpretation). Doesnt mean it a version of Quran.



For instance in sura 41:30, Indeed, those who have said, "Our Lord is Allah " and then remained on a right course - the angels will descend upon them, [saying], "Do not fear and do not grieve but receive good tidings of Paradise, which you were promised.


You see where it says "saying" in parenthesis?, some people understand the verse and place in bracket "at the time of death". Some say both at the time of death and in haqiqa. These are interpretations. They are not versions.

So in order to substantiate your point, you will have to bring evidence that there other versions of Arabic Quran. You can't provide "evidence" in the absence of evidence itself. Thats not acceptable. As for why Sayyidina Uthman burnt other dialects if nabi(SA) did nt have problem with it, thisis simply part of wisdom Allah bestowed on him. It is part of protecting Quran which Allah promised in sura Hijr 9. Those different dialects exist today as I pointed out to you earlier.

AlBaqir:
# First Salat is more than 1 reward, 25 rewards or whatever stuff. Salat is said to be Muslim's miraj to Allah.

I like to see reference for this please

# Second, what do you think is the essence or purpose of creation? Some will quickly say to serve God, and immediately cite the popular verse, " We have not created Jinn and Man but to serve Him". Is that really it when the next verse that follows says Allah did not need our worship. Purpose of creation is perfection and if you reflect clearly, Salat, Sawm, Zakat, Hajj etc are established to refine and purify the animalistic side of us. If Salat does not have effect in our life, am afraid....

Allah knows that we all can not maintain Ihsan. We are different. We are weak. Barely in today's world we can find a muslim to pray like sahabt. Sayyidina Umar and Ali come to mind. Today, the moment we make takbiratul ihram, we start thinking baout what need to to do next after salat, we start thinking about money we make or want to make, food, children and the list goes on. The reward is there as you said but of different level. That's not my point. My point is obligatory duty is fulfiled by offering the salat simply bcus it is FARD

# Third, Allah is merciful and He is Just in his dealing. Saying praying in congregation attract more reward than being individual needs to be understood clearly, my friend.

I understand. Some congregational are faster than federeal express but still obligatory duty is fulfiled when they offer it (in congregation or not). But we can't be sure if it accepted or not. Thats the reason we keep saying "olohun a gba o". But salawat on the prophet is no doubt according to ahadith. Fuqaha (all 4 schools) even said salat is not valid without salawat after atahiyat. That's how pretty salawat is.

Just any tom, dick and harry congregation? Those babalawos can never be an Imam for congregation and you expect reward. Besides, in my little understanding of fiqh, even every individual of congregation has different reward depending on the state of his connection with his Lord. A follower at the back might have more reward than Imam.

Again, saying babalawo is derogatory statement in order to castigate them. If i happen to visit his masjid in time of salat and he leads prayer, i will join the congregation. It is none of my business what he does so long as he prays the way it s established.

# Fourth, somebody that drinks alcohol, adulterer, fornicators, visiting soothsayers or te yanrìn etc and his a regular prayer. Obviously Salat does not have any vital impact on his life. In my opinion, he will surely be rewarded with his effort of praying or fasting but definitely not like he who has abandoned those things.

Exactly,because they fulfilled Fard. That's my point. Bold, is there any known Sheikh who preaches "abandonment of salat" to his people?. I am not talking about mureed. Mureed do whatever they want. And i am not talking about few mins clip you sent me before because that's not evidence

I think i know why you detest him. I remember watching his lecture a yr ago i think where he said "a je eyan ka to je eyan". I considered this mistake and slip of tongue and not to be used against him. He later stylishly corrected himself few minutes later in the same clip. So thats now evidence of him being babalawo. His recent lectures i watched show that he go against such things. He was simply advicing people from using "ewe ati egbo" for haram, human sacrifice or money rituals. He frown at these things.

yetseyi:
I think the biggest is New market (Its quite large and well built) also ca'led ita osun, then oke aje.

Very beautiful market built like Mall sytle but inside is not built that way.

vannessa7:
there is also ita ale, evening market

I think thats the one opposite King Palace (Oba Awujale). Am I right?

AlBaqir:
^^^
According to Quran, part of the establishment of Salat is to eradicate our evil sinful ways (small or big).Sign of acceptance of Salat is this. If you pray 24/7 and you continue in sinful, evil ways, obviously you are just doing exercise.

Yes, Quran clearly states that but many of us still do evil regardless. But that does not mean it is or it is not accepted. What you don't get is, a Muslim already fullfils obligation once he prays.

Like a hadith says that salat of a man is not accepted for 40 days for seeing soothsayer. Does that means he shouldn't pray because hadith denies him of the reward?. No.

If he doesn't pray because he's deprived of the rewards for seeing soothsayer, that's effrontery. But if the person prays anyways regardless, Allah may give him back the rewards for fulfilling his duty. I never read or heard of any known Muslim shuyuk preached abandoning salat but I have heard some people do. I am not aware of any known figure said that.

AlBaqir:
^^^ Em.piree, which one is "black soot"? Garri is poor man's only available delicacy o.

I was wondering what it is too. Will asked the lady that sent it to me

And concerning him being a "confirmed babalawo", I don't know what criteria you used to arrive at this conclusion. The only thing I can point out is where you talked about his omo kewu might involved in dubious business like harvesting human flesh. That's haram obviously. I listened to his lecture about this just last week and he condemned this type of things but he's not against using Allah's creations (leafs, roots ) as means of livelihood. This is why I find it hard to really reconcile what you said about him with what I heard him say.

Now, in Yoruba land, we tend to assume that whoever uses Ewe atI Egbo is a babalawo. This is very wrong concept. Ewe ati egbo are Allah's creations for believers and non believers. The ONLY clause is how they are used and what it they are used for. That's the only difference between us and them. There is absolutely nothing wrong using these things. They aren't created for fun. They are there for our use including sacrificing animals. Again the only difference is a Muslim sacrifices animal only according to sharia not by strangling, cutting off the throat with teeth or mentioning other than Allah's Name. These activities (of animal sacrifice ) are embedded in the Quran. For instance, some Muslims today condemned the practice or idea of making dua and sacrificing animals. It is rather their limited understanding of Quran.

In sura Kawsar ayah two, Allah talks about making dua and making sacrifice. So there is nothing wrong doing this. This is what I was trying to say in "Jinn Stories" thread few years ago but I didn't think about references much. If they are babalawo for using ewe ati egbo, what do we call a medical doctor and scientists who formed these capsules and tablets everyone use in modern day. Some of these sufi practices are okay for as long as they are within the boundaries of Sharia. It is not sharia to kill human and use him for money ritual, this is haram and kufr. And whatever dua, ewe, egbo and sacrifices we make must be submitted to Allah.

And I said before, Quran is very rich in meaning and you understood this. Not everything nabi (s) and his sahaba didn't do is bidah or haram. Shirk is clear.

As for occult, Quran itself enjoined having groups that command khayr and forbid munkar. There is nothing wrong in groups. I hate to use "occult" or cult as some translations of quran do sometimes. So there is nothing wrong if shuyuk are together upon all that is good and by helping one another. I want to believe that you are being sentimental for saying his omo kewu publicly involved in dubious means and he his aware and support them. I would argue otherwise.

Matter of fact, I read on naijagists website last week that one of his boys duped someone for millions of dollars. I'm yet to read his statements about this. I can only judge him by what i heard from his lectures on YouTube which are in many occasions in conflict with what you said here.

From everything you have be been saying about him @albaqir, I don't know if you have personal beef with him or not. So I can't really take your words as sahih. I will take them as daef for now.

I know he's controversial man and very articulate. He says things that are out of this world that I dont think he should say. Some of them are right but the matn are wrong. For instance where he said solatih fathi is greater than obligatory salat, from few mins video you sent me before, I had to interpret his statement properly to understand him.

It is common knowledge that praying in congregation is more rewarding than alone. It is said that if you offer your salat alone you get one reward. We learned this growing up, isn't?.

And whether or not we pray in congregation we can not guarantee if it is accepted or not until we reach Hereafter. But what is guaranteed is if you send salams on the nabi (s), it is guaranteed that is accepted with multiple rewards. This is confirmed in sahih ahadith. This is where sufi emphasized on solat ala nabiy but this doesn't mean it is greater than obligatory salat. Five daily prayers are simply FARD whether the reward is big or not. So I believe this is what Sheikh Onikijipa was saying but he didn't phrase it properly.

Again, it is guaranteed that one salam on the prophet (s) attracts times10 of the reward. So how about making multiple salams ala nabi?. See much reward you harvest and this is guaranteed as recorded. But doing this alone does not guarantee Janna without fulfilling obligatory tenets. This is what I can deduce from him for saying salati fathi is more rewarding than obligatory salat. I have heard him say that you can't get close to Allah through nawafil and abandoning obligatory salat. You enter into Allah's camp through fard followed by naflat. That's what he said

AlBaqir:
Four years ago Onikijipa and some muslim public figures were awarded at Spring hotel and resort in Osogbo. I was there at the lecture. Governor Aregbe too was there. My Ustaz was the guest Lecturer that day. I was ashamed to be present in such a gathering where Onikijipa is being honored. What he and his thug omo kewu displayed was shameful. When he finally seated, we thought the crowd had gotten its peace back so we can continue listening to the lecture. To every ones surprise, about 20-25 ladies came out from nowhere with same transparent clothes, no hijab, with make ups, and display of jewelries etc, praising their master and moving up to the podium. They all arrived where he seated, and knelt down shouting his praise. [b]I was told those are his "al-Misqeen"[b].

Lol....is that where he got "al-miskin billah" from?

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BREAKING!!! :-XBAD NEWS.

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Keep on sharing till we save our dear ounce.

Black soot has affected southern part of the country, and people are dying by the day.

It will be evil of me, if I fail to share what happened at Oyigbo in Rivers state, where family of six are struggling with their lives as you're reading this.

Please, Please and Please! For now, don't dear buy yellow garri (garri with oil). Once this garri is colored, you can't tell which is affected according to Dr. Deji Afolabi.

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If we were able to fight Ebola, together we can do this.

And please, pray for Tamuno James , Uniport 300 level student who is in between life and death just because of garri.

Share to not less than ten people in your contact list if you have an atom of humanity left in you
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Please don't stop sharing till this message gets to your friends and family.


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AlBaqir:
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Well, you may know him more. I have no idea of him beyond YouTube lectures and that's what i base my judgement on

emekaRaj:
I believe There are thousands of Muslim's with the same gift, just that Muslims dnt welcome them Becos we like to narrow everything to Quran, so most of us believe what's nt in the Quran is bad. I hav had about two pastors try talk me into believing dat Dis gift is for Christians, so I should join Islam, Wen one sheikh explained to me about MUWAKIL he also told me to keep it a secret as many Muslims will nt understand.

When I started this thread I almost gave up on the thread because ppl were makin some ignorant comment, if not for IKUPAKUTI I would have forgotten about the tread long time ago, but in him I found someone who hav d understanding so I held on.

Am sure many are viewing this thread but scared to comment. Let us welcome them so We can learn.

Yes, it is usually kept secret bcus they dont understand. The only thing they know are Jinn and Malaika as we know them. They dont believe in anything else that neither Quran nor hadith explicitly mentioned. That's bcus they are theoretically reading Islam.


I got this some place

Khodam/Muwakils are extremely strong. But to some, a jinn is stronger, why is this ? Because a Jinn will do pretty much anything. It is like a human, it does good and bad, where a Muwakkil/Khodam will do NO bad, they are the guardians of the Holly Letters of the Quran and the 99 beautiful names of Allah Subhanawa Ta’ala

See highlighted part, that's what i know about ruhaniyun that iw as telling them few years ago. They dont believe me


If one is compare power to power, not what one is willing to do for another, A Muwakil/Khodam is unlimited time more powerful than any jinn. It has been known and proven that when A Dark Magician who has A Jinn King at his disposal, who allows the Dark Magician access to his army, thus causing the dark magician to be able to send tens and thousands of jnnns to its victim, BUT ONE Muwakil can kills hundreds if not thousands of Jinns within seconds.


A Muwakil is something like a Jinn but made of light (Nur). But it has free will so it is not an angel (my opinion, if you don't like it, sorry, Angels only serve GOD). I have seen, yes seen one Muwakil kills 500 demonic entities under 25 seconds. The power that Muwakil has is “out of the ordinary” and what they can do is “awesome”, to say the least. Many black magicians will say, I’m not going to harm this or that person because they are familiar with someone in this person’s family has a Muwakil.


To even bring a Khodam forward requires MINIMUM 40 days of rituals and fasting with "NO guarantee" and the riutal/Amal can only be done by one has full knowledge of the Quran, can read it with perfection and ease.

Khodam/Muwakil is extremely pious entity. So in order to use such entities (it is not an easy task and such entities will not come 10 feet near you if you are not a very pious individual), one must not miss any of the 5 obligatory prayers, doing dzikirs throughout the day is a necessity, staying in the state of wudu (ablution) at almost all times is a must, eating nothing unlawful, watching nothing unlawful is something one must do. Only then when a person has reached a spiritual level so high and pure, he can ask for assistance from Muslim Jinns and even Khodams (ONLY if Allah wills).

http://www.brotherrahman.net/difference-betweem-khodam-muwakil-and-djinn-jinn/

AbdelKabir:
sarcastically speaking egbon, are you hoping she would offer herself in marriage to you? this one you are egging and quoting her "upandan"..... make no mistake, i could imagine the swollen faces your first two wives would be having daily because that girl is reckless. no you miss something, you missed the part where she called you insane for not hating polygamy, may the hand she used in typing that be despised if she dont repent to Allaah for such a reckless statement, that statement has lots and lots of implications.

well, i had to defend myself, if i kept avoiding her like i did in other threads, she would continue following me about.....Its known that i dont give ad hominem attacks.... well i was still being gentle with all that, sincerely...

I didnt notice that at all. besides, i didnt take her serious bcus I simply see her as one of those women i used to talk about. In another minute you would see her talking nice and you would be surprise. Thats why i dont take women that serious when they speak

emekaRaj:
Which one is Alhu la ilaha ila Alahi again is dat their name or Wat.

No, that's not their name. That's just terminology used for them bcus of people that do lots of shahada or lots of dhikr

Anyway I see them often dat period but since the day they chose me as their leader, an I organized them, I haven't been seeing them.

Better...you may just hear their voice(s) now

I believe if you do zikr alot, they may come close to you, is just dat not everybody God gave the third eye to see them. But they may always be with u.

Certainly, they are very close to zikr places. Thats what they are assigned. The "third eye" is what Quran termed "internal eye" that's, eye of the heart

AlBaqir:
First, Quran and Islam and Nabi have absolutely nothing to do with IFA. Saying IFA says something about them is nothing. Who exactly does IFA wants to convince?

Second, orunmila, obatala, osun vis-à-vis IFA is nothing but Yoruba legendary formulation. None of Yoruba's theories passes the search of research, science and rationality.

Third, Onikijipa was not saying whether ifa says something about Nabi. Rather he says ifa is in Quran.

Onikijipa is said to be a pure alawo belonging to several occult societies. And he too with his several unimaginable declaration had indirectly confirm it.

Trust me bro, the man is crazy.

But i have listened to his lecture where he speaks against joining occult. Bold seems to be assumption not certainty.

Hkana, this is what you looking for

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0b2H8xz9-Xg

emekaRaj:
I trust you now say u must hav some knowledge about them, u didn't lie at all that was exactly Wat I heard about them,

The first time I came across them I was using Surat noor 24 verse 35. Allahu nuru samawatil wal ard, just this..... tho I didn't know about this theory about that time. I was always reciting it plenty after the nawafil I always do b4 going to bed, one day they just surrounded me going round and round in circles around me repeating Allahu nuru samawatil wal ard with joy. Then they put hand on my head an pray for me.

The second time was January, dat period I was always doing Surat ikhlas 1k after ishai, then I started seeing this biengs everyday in a mosque doing zikr all the time an I will join them, but they never talk to me an I never talk to them, Everytime I say I want to talk to them, wen i see them I won't be able to talk do it.

One day God gave me the strength wen I enter d narrowed looking mosque I met them doing zikr, I stand an I was looking at them, an they became quite an was looking at me back. This was d first time I talked to them.

I ask them, Dnt u ppl talk, they didn't Ansa, they continue looking at me.

I now ask who is ur leader, all of them now point hand at me at the same time, like its you now, I now said OK, but u have to protect my family an everyone close to me they said ok. They all lift me up in the air an were celebrating with joy as their new leader, I started giving them instruction on Wat to do, I chose two heavy men to always be behind my back and never leave, an they station themselves immediately, I selected another 10 to surround somthin and guard it. I dnt even know Wat the tin is, like is tudlers dat r their or so am nt sure. So they surrounded it immediately, we had a battle dat night with shayatin, the two I ask to guard were just blocking attack in d battle.

Guy no be as I dey tell u so, its crazy men. And this is truth nothing added

Subhanallah!....you are dealing with Alhu la ilaha ila Allahi. Brother, you great man. I believe you bcus i lived with someone like that. But what i dont understand is how you see them. In their true nature or in human form?. My sheikh told me it is not good idea to see them often. Seeing them constitutes shortening lifespan. I want to be believe that's what happened to sheikh sasili Sambo (ra) but it doesnt mean it is bad thing. They live by Allah's Command. You may eventually have one of them as agent if Allah wills but you gonna have to keep up with faith and taqwa. They will help with lots of things. Man, you are gifted. Now i am interested in your story.

ikupakuti:
@EmekaRaj,

YES, I know the MUWAKKALUNA (ASSIGNED AGENTS).

They are also called A‘WANUL A‘MAAL (AIDS OF ACTS).

Every haraf, ayat & surat has legion of them. Some are Malaikats who has legion of Ruhaniyyas under there athourity as subordinates who in turn has legion of chiefs of jinns beneath them who in turn controls there subjects....like that in hierarchical order.

There are various ways of extracting there names, some ways are deeper than some & it all boils down to numerology i.e through the numerical value of the ayat etc sought.

They are the agents through whose medium the utilization of those ayats etc comes to effect but they only act when they recieve order from above.

The powers & lights imbeded in those ayats etc fecundate & empower them.

Did you come across any of them ? Which ayat ? Sura ?

SubhannAllah. You hit the nail on the head. Some people did not understand me when i narrated my experience about ruhaniyun 2yrs ago. You can search the thread created by tbaba titled "Jinn Stories" where i contributed. I told them that every araf, ayah etc of Quran have khadim that evolves from them. But they think islam is all about just reading texts. They kept saying they are jinn bcuz Allah only mentioned Angel, Jinn and mankind and nothing else.

But then, i forgot to cite this ayah as evidence 41:30

Lo! those who say: Our Lord is Allah, and afterward are upright, the angels descend upon them, saying: Fear not nor grieve, but hear good tidings of the paradise which ye are promised.

In some translation, they put in parenthesis (at the time of death) to think that only at that time malaika descend. That's translator's opinion. That's not practical. Experience comes through practical which i lived with for 20yrs under my Sheikh back then.

JazaKallah khairan for this

AlBaqir:
^^^

# He said and I qoute: "Ifa wa ninu Qurani....Fatiha ni IFÁ inu Quran", ti o ba jé eyan, o gbodò je eyan na....

# He usually talks, praises and boasts of juju publicly.

# Faruq once declared salatul fatih to be more important and rewarding than praying namaz/salat.

I don't want to waste my time recounting this man's evil thoughts and preaching.
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Are those not acts of Shrik?

Em.piree, this man is worse. I met him some years back, he's worst than you can imagine.

I am only going to address IFA stuff. A scientist sheikh, Fadilat Sheik Abdul Fatai Muhd Raji i once told you about who authored "Science In The Quran" once said something like this. I dont know how Sheikh Onikijipa said it but from what you just said seems to me he said what this sheikh said. That for Muhammad, Islam, Quran is mentioned in "oriki ifa" the same way we say nabi (S) is mentioned in the Bible. If i see the video of the sheikh I will post it.

abunafiu:
Kindly take time to study this thread.
You have a lot to learn.
Then u can now ask about the cost.
Except if you want to give it out as a contract.
We can help with that as well.

I know right. First all, I'm not in this field but it is good thing you encourage people to go through and learn themeselves. I will try to read as much as I can in my spare time. However I would need average cost of it. Are panels i need depend on size of my house?. I would probably need 4 to 5 panels.

I may not be able to read everything in this thread but definitely I should have an idea what you do. I have preexisting idea from other threads from 3yrear ago actually.

sathob:
Well, great people of FTA, I think I should start this on behalf of George_D because of the request made by others who have expressed interest in alternate electricity, especially solar energy. Our FTA independence is not complete if we are to suffer frequent power outages and been dependant on the nation’s electricity grid system always. I have read in this house many times, from members “PHCN don go off, so I will track later when they come back”. No one can run away from power outages in the main electricity grid – not even the west, it happens. Hence, we all should have alternate electricity and using renewable energy is, to me, the best. This means one can enjoy their FTA fully by being totally free and not “dom” (dominated).

Look at some advantages
• Lower or no electricity bills
• Compared to generator users, there is no fuel cost and stress of getting it and no fumes.
• People living in the remote locations where power is unavailable or too expensive to hook-up too can have electricity.
Just to mention but a few.

Without going into detail, one can enjoy electricity by means of using solar energy (energy from the sun), wind mill (using energy from the wind). Don’t forget, where there is frequent electricity supply from the utility company, you can store some energy for back up.

You will need the following to complete a solar project or back up.

1. Solar panels
2. Power Inverter
3. Charge controller
4. Batteries to store energy
5. wires and cables
6. Monitors/meters

The solar panel consists of cells called photo voltaic cells and these, covert the energy received from the sun to electricity in simple terms (this electricity is a direct current
d.c). The panels can last up to 20 years plus. The panels can be fixed, adjustable or of the tracking type. You can decide to go for a complete panel from manufacturers (already made) or build panels by yourself using solar cells- the latter is for the hobbyist. The panels are rated in watts eg 80w solar panel supplying 12v continuous at a given time

The inverter
Power Inverters are available in 3 basic designs, two of which I remember very well now – the one that out sinusoidal waves and those that are modified sign wave type (meaning not pure sine waves and do have limits when it comes to its application) . The power inverter converts your storage battery power into the 240 volts AC that runs your appliances. It is the heart of your solar energy system. Unless you only run 12 volt DC appliances you will need a power inverter to supply your AC. This is just the basics.

The Charge Controller
A Charge Controller is necessary to protect the batteries from over charging and supply them with the proper amount of energy to promote long battery life.

Batteries
Without Storage Batteries to store energy you would only have power when the sun was shining. There is a lot more to batteries than just the ordinary car battery. Yo may need to change batteries over the years.

Wires and Cables
Without the right size of cables, you are likely to experience inefficient transfer of power (greater losses) and overheating.

Meters
This is required to monitor the performance of your solar system.

Firstly, it is very necessary to know what gadgets you will be using (eg.tv, sat. receiver) and how long you will use how long you would have them on the solar power and how much energy your battery can store and which solar panel (rating in power) will supply the required energy.

A lot goes into calculating the cost of setting up a solar system. First one has to consider the period of usable sunlight available at their location to do this calculation. For us here close to the equator, we get about 7 to 8 hours or more of sunlight during dry season, just a rough estimate.

How do I know I need 100w or 80w or 300 watts solar panel for my project?

The power consumption of appliances is given in Watts. To calculate the energy you will use over time, just multiply the power consumption by the hours of use.

Eg. If I have 90W tv set which I want to use for 6hrs, 25W satellite receiver for the same period, and a 50W fan for 3 hours. What will be the energy required from the solar panels for the period?

1. the energy for each appliance is Watts x time (hours) = Wh

So, the watt hours for the tv = 90 x 6 = 540 Wh (watt hours)

Watt hours for sat. receiver = 25 x 6 = 150 Wh

Watt hours for fan will be = 50 x 3 = 150 Wh

2. sum the watt hours for the individual appliances ie. 540 + 150 + 150 = 840 Wh (watt hours)

This means that the solar panel will need to supply 840 watt hours of energy to the battery each day to cover the total power required by these appliances.

3. since there are bound to be losses in the system However, to account for natural losses, we multiply the result by 1.2 (this factor allows for natural system losses, assuming 85% efficiency). Therefore, we will assume the panels will actually need to be able to supply a total of
840 x 1.2 = 1008Wh

4. so, to supply 1008Wh of energy the panel we assume to receive 7 hours of sunlight will be rated at 1008 Wh / 7 h = 144W
So, I will need 144W solar panel to supply energy to my appliances above at the given time.

Regarding point 3, it also means, if I have a solar panel rated at 100W receiving sunlight for 7 hours a day, the total energy supplied considering 85% efficiency will be 100x7x0.85= 595Wh and not 700Wh

5. Your battery should be able to store 1008Wh of energy. Since batteries capacities are rated in Ah (Ampere Hours) you need to multiply Ah by the Volt rating to know the Watt Hour. Power(W) = Voltage (V) x Current (I) ; Watt hour = VxIxHour

Therefore Ah (which is I x h) = Wh / V = 1008 / 12 (the number 12 represents a 12v battery)
= 84 Ah

So it means you will need not less than a 84Ah, 12V battery (deep-cycle batteries, not ordinary car batteries) to do the job.

NB. Another way of calculating battery capacity is explained in this example. Should my battery be rated at 84Ah, 12V the watt hour (energy) will be 84Ah x 12 V = 1008Ah

It implies that the battery can supply a 150watt appliance for 1008/70 = 14hours

Pls don’t just play around with batteries they are dangerous.

I need some guidelines to go about this please. THE COST

AlBaqir:
Subhan'allah! Sule? Sule? Sule is talking about Bid'ah when he himself is a Bid'ah.

I would disagree with you actually. I don't think he is as much as you might portray him. Yes, he does seems to do some stuff but definitely not shirk. He backs it up from Quran itself without even going much in hadith. Quran is loaded. It is up to us to explore it.


For instance those who insist on "STOP where Sahaba STOPPED" would have limited approach to Quran. Those who use scientific, spiritual and philosophical approach would have more to explore in Quran. I do not expect the sahabi to do many things we do today because the presence of Nabi(S) alone was sufficient for them. But Quran will continue to function till eternity. I really grasped his message actually even though he is somewhat controversial fellow.

Daninya11:
One major reason I don't contribute much in this religious section is the high number of ignoramus claiming to be authorities in religious matters and they don't know a jerk about it..
Islam started around 620 bc when we have had great Greek scholars like socrates, aristotle, Plato who were men with brilliant minds..
The bible is infallible - without errors..

plappville:
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What have you to say?

You have been released from zoo or rehab?. Which one?

snapscore:
My 'wow' wasn't because of your comment but it was funny.

Lol...you got sense of humor

snapscore:
Wow.....

Don't worry, you are still his first wife. I am not trying to break you up. He's just trying to add another one