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@ikupakuti, you are very smart man. This numbers you keep talking about shows where sufis got the idea of reciting dhikr xyz number of times. Obviously from the way you analyzed shows it is sunnah contrary to what those who argue against it say. They said if nabi (SAW) did not place specific number it is "bida and it becomes problematic".

Your explanations really enlightened me more.

annunaki2:
Muslims and al taquiya, the woman used her right leg on the quoran but it's the left leg that got diseased. Arrant nonsense, this is a classic case of elephantiasis. I know people who been using pages of the quoran as toilet paper for years and nothing has happened to them.

right leg she used? ??.. I guess Uncle Paul blinds your eyes too

check this dude out

http://naijagists.com/meet-rotimi-williams-lagos-boy-turned-millionaire-rice-farmer-nasarawa-state/#comment-603931


This is a very hardworking nigerian

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wywj03iXU0Q

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annunaki2:
I don't need to do that, Trump and other incoming Western leaders are already dealing with it.

Here is your brother trying to blow up a church. If he succeeded, it would have been tagged "muslim terrorists" did it.

NonSense !!!

EgunMogaji:
My design from the beginning is Mediterranean structure due to the weather in Nigeria.

There were four things on my mind.

1) Passive cooling - a giant hole in the middle of the structure guarantees air flow without active cooling.

2) Privacy - with the internal courtyard I can entertain to my delight in private. It's also zone into private, semi private and public areas on the inside.

3) Security - it is my opinion that this is a very safe design and it even has a safe room.

4) Single Level - thinking ahead to old age, it had to be a bungalow.

From the onset I had solar on my mind.

I'm not in any particular hurry to finish the house though I need to seal it sooner than later. I still have another 15 years in the US.

The apartment garage is completed but needs pain painting so I have a place to rest my bones for now and the gateman house is almost done.

You really planned ahead. That's great. I want to believe your land is wide to accommodate this structure. God bless your hustle. Seems you gonna enjoy your old age in that crib you called courtyard. 15years is pretty enough to save towards whatever you want.

No hurry, I'm good with laying one block per year

Lol, you are known for your kobo kobo snail moving project

plappville:
Today Muslim refugees, tomorrow terrorists

Muslims are heartless and Backward.

Those who mess with Islam end up like this.

Becareful....you next

tintingz:
Hadith said the Quran was rewritten.

So now, why do you believe in this "hadith"?.

From what i gathered, you have not even agreed with any hadith across the board. How come you bite this hadith tightly with your molar?. I am just curious

EgunMogaji:
Yes it's my ongoing build.

There's a 500 square feet central courtyard.

Fear just dey catch me for the roofing estimates I've been getting

Brother, no be only you fear dey catch. Just when i set my eyes on your structure my heart starts to beat faster than federal express

Looks like palace. Did you have the idea of installing solar panels before you came up with this structure?. I have no idea where solar panels could seat out of view on mine. I have roofed mine before i got the idea of solar system. You have the chance but i de fear the cost for you man. You seem to be taking your time with your project.

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plappville:
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Ignoramus !!!

*How to make your children pray on their own without arguments or reminders - Here's a narrative from a sister:*



My Daughter was 12 years old and prayer was like a heavy burden on her. So I told her to pray one day and I monitored her. She took the carpet and threw it on the ground. I asked her if she prayed - she said yes - Believe me, without feeling I slapped her face - I know I made a mistake. The situation has troubled me and I cried and I repent to God to forgive me.. The slap, the talk, the reminders did not make a difference to my child.

One day a friend told me a story. She went to one of her friend for a visit. Her friend was not very religious, but when the Adhan prayer was called, her children rushed for prayers without reminders or quarrel. I said to her how do your children pray by themselves without quarrel or a reminder? She said, before I got married I used to pray this Dua and still pray it today.

After she told me the Dua, I began to recite in my prayers every time I could. Since I began to recite the Dua' my daughter is now the first to pray without me reminding her. She gets up for Fajr prayers without an alarm. And all her brothers are now eager to pray without any difficulties.

I know You are now eager to know this Supplication Dua..

The Supplication is in Surah Ibrahim 14:40.

And the Supplication is...

( رَبِّ ٱجۡعَلۡنِى مُقِيمَ ٱلصَّلَوٰةِ وَمِن* ذُرِّيَّتِى‌ۚ رَبَّنَا وَتَقَبَّلۡ دُعَآءِ (٤٠

*"Rabbi-Ij'alni muqeema salaat, wa min zurriyyati, Rabbana wataqabbal dua'*

O my Lord! make me one who establishes regular Prayer, and also (raise such) among my offspring O our Lord! and accept Thou my Prayer.

Aameen

Spread the knowledge so it will be Sadaqatul Jaariyah for you and for me... ان شاء الله .

The Messenger of Allah Muhammad (peace be upon him) said: “Whoever directs someone to a good, then he will have the reward equal to the doer of the action.” [Muslim 1893]

EgunMogaji:
That's one of the things that drew me to my floorplan.

I can hide my panels easily from prying eyes, and I can frolick outside while still being inside.

Shout out to me Architect, Darenyx @ https://www.nairaland.com/darenyx, I recommend him without any hesitation.

I know Oga KolaShangOne doesn't favor black roof but it helps blend in solar electric panels and solar water heaters. There really is a method to EgunMogajis madness

truly this is your roof design?
That conviniently hides the panels

annunaki2:
I don't need to do that, Trump and other incoming Western leaders are already dealing with it.

bye bye Christianity


DeAl wiTh iT

tintingz:
After Uthman has distributed the copies of Quran to lands? Years and years after Ali became caliph?

Then why are Shia and Sunni not in unity?

This is irrelevant. Do you have evidence that Abu Bakr confiscated Ali's compilation?. If he didnt, then Ali MUST have it in his possession. Regardless of how long it took him to become Caliph, he had the power to restore his

tintingz:
Yes.

The burnt 7 style Quran and Al Furqan.

Version is version, you claim bible has versions then you have to accept Quran has versions.

Give a non-arab an arabic verse of Al-furqan like the yorubas, he-she will think it is Uthmantic Quran.

"Al Furqan" is OBVIOUSLY Bible in disguise

ikupakuti:
Just buy that N30 القاعدة booklet, you‘ll see the 28 abjd characters along with there numerical values.

But for that word, here is the NV of its characters:-

ج= 3
ع = 70
ل =30
ن = 50
ا = 1 :

Which totals - 154.

Thats how the amount for recitations of certain names etc are derived.

This is science if tassawuf. You just taught me something now

annunaki2:
Dunce, this is why Merkel and other liberal western leaders will be voted out this year and will be replaced by hardliners who have zero tolerance ffor the spread of the virus called Islam.

PS: meanwhile the website you are quoting from lacks credibility and the story is most likely exaggerated.

dEAl WiTh It

plappville:
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Is that all you can say ? Oh lala you truely have no shame?

This Arab man shot a police and announced he did it for Allah and you are here talking garbage.

These are the true Muslim's. Islam is a big problem to Europe today. All in the name of accepting Refugees, Europe has eventually welcomed Islamists terrorists.

Islam is Evil, no doubt. It obvious, We can see the evil spreading live a virus. The main objective of Muhammad was to kill All none Muslim. Thats what Allah's army is doing. Practice the quran to its letters. Arabic has become the only known terrorist language. And allah is the only god these terrorists call on whenever they are in operation.

Common, Terrorism is Islam. Islam is Terrorism. You cant separate both. Deal with it

DEAL wITH iT

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_Bj0nED85A

AlBaqir:
# It was Umar Ibn al-Khattab that prevented Nabi and not Abu Bakr. The later was not even at the scene.

# The word of prophet at his sick bed was, " Bring me pen and paper so I can write a Document for you which if follow, you will NEVER go astray". And Umar said, "The prophet has been possessed by the illness he is suffering from; we have the Quran with us and it is sufficient".

* In another narrations, some condemned Sahabah present there said, "He (the prophet) is mentally derailed".

# Shia are of the firm opinion that Quran was compiled at the time of Nabi.

* The fact that it was revealed in stages for 23 years and after every revelation, there are scribes who write it down under the guidanceship of Nabi himself.

* There are ahadith which say Jubril came to review Quran twice at the last year of the Prophet on earth.

If you sum the two point above, definitely Quran must have been written and arranged in a particular order and style.

* Between the last revealed verse and the death of Nabi, there was at least 6 months gap. His sickness was just couple of days (4 days) till he breathed his last. If Quran is the utmost message he brought, why will he left it unarranged, in pieces, one parch with Mr A, another with Mr B till he died? What exactly will be the completeness of his work?

* Part of Nabi's last speech in Arafat says thus, " O mankind! I have left over you two weighty things that so long you adhere to it (both), you will never go. astray; the BOOK of Allah and my progeny, my Ahl al-bayt. The two will never separate from each other till they meet me at the hawd (on the day of judgment)".

The above hadith is widely reported in various versions.

# If Quran is not yet compiled and arranged, why would the prophet refer to it as "Book" when he can easily used other fitting phrase denoting unarranged book?

# Besides, at his deathbed, Umar himself equally refer to "Book of God". And we expect the prophet especially at his sickbed to give direct order for the compilation and arrangement of the Quran had it been that it has not been arranged and compiled.

# Sunni stories on the compilation and arrangement of the Quran if it is true cast a huge doubt on the intention and action on those who said to have rearrange and recompiled Qur'an.

* Abu Bakr and Umar had said to have compiled Quran and used for around 16 years of their combined reign. Perhaps they still preserve the 7 styles of Quran revelation and reading just as Nabi left it (altogether).

* Uthman came to the helm, review the work of his predecessors and was not satisfied obviously, dismantled their work, destroyed all the styles of the Quran except that of the " Qurayshi style".

Alas according to Sunni authentic hadith! Even after this, a Qurayshi (Abdullah ibn Abbas) who no doubt was more knowledgeable than Uthman cast doubt on a verse of the Quran saying that was not the way it was revealed.

There is a huge problem in those so-called stories of compilation. And I personally believe that those stories were fabricated to give huge credit to the first three caliphs (as you can read part of what s.ino posted). Unfortunately the fabricators were not smart enough to close all doors of suspicion.

I read on Shia's view on compilation before and it is noteworthy. But here, tintingz is question authenticity of Quran itself by saying it has version(s). By versions, he meant CONTENTS of the present Quran is different from revelation. No Muslim sects would agree with this. I dont have problems with Shia's view on this. It is just normal for sunnis to defend what they are taught and I learned "compilation of Quran" from high school. Still tintingz can't really find holes because there is no record that sayyidina Ali(ra) kept different quran. If he did, he would have restored that when he became caliph. That was my question to him in my last post and I am waiting for his answer for that.

Now, my question to tintingz is, taken shia's view into consideration, do you believe Quran has version still?. That's, this current Quran is different from what was revealed to nabi(SAW)?

mavverick:
yeh, hide from view.
if u got a hip roof, then its almost impossible to hide from view, but the beauty with nija is that no regulations on how roof needs to look like, so u can design in such a way that maybe have a roof gully that dips, there u put your panels. You know nija, before u know am now people go describe ur house as that house wey get black thing for roof, and those kind of descriptions stick with thieves.

I knew that was your scare . You become a prime target. Thieves no go look twice before you are identified

mavverick:
You read my mind, i see them a lot for sale and if one has a eye for a bargain, not too expensive. IF I can compliment this with Nepa, and also have something that will also be charging my solar battery when NEPA is working (if such exists), then that would be the ideal situation. I am also considering that solar panel for my house, but only if it can be hidden from view.

I thought about that too. But i dont think there is a way around it. It needs sun isn't?

@ Hajj mufutau55, how did you and spyder880 achieve drone view?

ikupakuti:
Just gone through the thread, so pathetic how some of our muslim brothers allow rustic mentality becloud their sense of reasoning!

How can someone expect everything to conform to his own level/kind of understanding? How can one then learn new things ?

Thats why the evidences are so glaring in the Quran & hadiths, still they cant see through.

God said و يخلق ما لا تعلمون that he created what we (would never) know not. Thats if the processors of our brains should be running & processing @ the highest velocity obtainable from now till forever, that he still has in creation what would never fall into our imaginations talkless of in reality...and someone said b‘cos only angels & jinns were mentioned in the Quran so their are no other occupants in heaven, like seriously?

So we should deny all what we know if they are not specifically mentioned in the Quran ?

Abeg, tell them. Highlighted part shows that you indeed went through the thread. I probably know who said it. It was crazy time in 2014 even though i was not mentally prepared with much references back then. This goes to prove the hadith which speaks of spiritually essence of Islam will be lost in akhir zaman. That's what we are witnessing now. They now read Quran mechanically.

tintingz:
Bla bla bla... .

Now this is going to be a knockout.

Let's see if you can refute this.

From what you have said earlier, that why Abu Bakr rejected Ali's "version" of Quran, let's assume Abu Bakr did reject it. If he rejected Ali's, do you have any evidence that he seized Ali's version and banned it?.

If not, the implication is that Ali MUST have his copy in his possession until he gained power after Uthman. So why didn't Ali get rid f Uthman and replace it with his version if it was different from what was revealed to nabi(SA) and standardized by Uthman?.

tintingz:
Bla bla bla... All i know is that there were various versions of Quran that existed. Whether dialects or versions. If not there won't be clashes among those ancient Arab folks.

Now, this is becoming blind argument without any proof. "All I know is". That's not scholarship at all.

@uunderlined does not relate with @bold.

tintingz:
There is nowhere Jesus called himself God in the bible, son in Jewish people means friend of God. There is nothing like trinity in the bible. Some Christians don't believe Jesus is God, while some believe he's God from that same bible. You have seen how interpretations differ?

There is no gospel in the Quran, Quran only mention Gospel and narrate some stories. The gospel of Jesus were accounted by Luke, John, Mathew, Mark, Peter and Paul and these are found in the bible, you can provide your gospel for us if you have another.

Obviously you are confused. Dont let trinitarians here @bold. That's no longer interpreatation. That's believe system if some one believes a man is God and nother one says no he is not. That's complete different doctrines.

And you said Bible didnt call him God?. Maybe you have been reading very well. Those who believe Jesus is God gave their references


Isaiah 9:6 - For unto us a Child is born, Unto us a Son is given; And the government will be upon His shoulder. And His name will be called Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.


Revelation 1:17-18; Revelation 2:8 - (Jesus is the First and the Last)


1 Timothy 3:16 - And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifested in the flesh,


These are few of the references of those who believe in man is God.


And you open the same book, you see unitarian who believe otherwise.

Does this happen with islam that nabi is God?. Stop deceiving yourself my friend

tintingz:
The gospel was revealed to Jesus and we can only find it in the Jewish book called the new testament bible or where is the gospel revealed to Jesus in the Quran?

Oga, me no know which Gospel you de talk. Too Many of them but they ALL have one thing in common and that is confusion about Jesus identity. Being God, Son of God and the Holy Spirit at the same time. If that is the Gospel you believe was revealed to Jesus, then Bible or Gospel's message about Jesus is in conflict with Quran's message about him. You either stick to Quran or tell us who Jesus is accordiing to ay of those Gospel

Lobatan

tintingz:
We will Keep going in circle.

There were various versions of the Quran, if there wasn't Abu Bakr wont reject Ali's compilation, Uthman won't bother rewriting and burning other copies of Quran.

Very simple question that will bring this to an end is DO YOU BELIEVE THAT QURAN WE HAVE TODAY is NOT thw WORD OF ALLAH and it is DISTORTED?


The above ^ question ^ kills thw whole back n forth one time so that i can get where you stand. But for record, you seems to want to interject "SuShi" differences into this but unfortuantely, there differences are SECTATIRIA and historic hatred that has nothing to do with Quran compilation. So i see nowhere Abu Abkr reject's Ali's unless, perhaps some nutjobs write whatever they want on internet


The Period of Abu Bakr 1st Compilation:

Ali ibn Abi Talib compiled a book arranging the verses of the Quran, which was completed shortly before the death of the Prophet, in the order that they were revealed. [33> He did not go out until he finished writing that book except for prayer. That narration is present in the answer when Abu Bakr summoned Ali to ask why he had not given allegiance to him: ‘I thought something might be added to the book of Allah and I decided not to put on my clothes except prayer until I finished writing it. Abu Bakr said, ‘You thought very nice.’




The Period of Ali ibn Abi Talib:

If the Quran that Uthman duplicated had been different from that of Prophet, the successor of Uthman, the Caliph Ali, would have made his private Quran the official Quran. The difference of the Mushaf of Ali is that it is arranged in the order of revelation. There is no difference except the use of a few synonyms, which does not cause any change in the meaning.

Do you know this was exactly what Constantine did to the bible?

Whether or not Bible corruption and distortion is feasible today and there are physical evidences for this.


Dont forget to answer the question o oga tintingz

annunaki2:
You must really feel pained, ashamed and betrayed that the religion you were erroneously brought up to believe is from God turns out in reality to be a fake satanic religion that was started by a psychopath. I really feel your pain.

annunaki2 MUST hear this.

Germany is falling hands Now do exactly what Judasicariot did. That's, Hang Ya Self and FALLON