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plappville:
The Ishmaelites are curs.ed or what? Blood keep flowing everyday. ..

Your Christian brother PRETEND to be muslim to get muslim charity if they can do this they can as well fake muslims and bomb places


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfXqwUk4mJM&t=69s

Getting deep man.

Nice observation and admonition from ikupakuti

Hkana:
Empiree, I saw your work on the soffeeyah thread and although I have questions I couldn't post them so as not to derail it.

I'd like to know what suffiyah is about plus tell me about karamat (of Al Hallaj and others)

Ok, will get back to you on this but I have no idea of Al Hallaj. Just heard of him first time from the other thread.I can only talk about famous Nigerian sufis and my sheik

more on the video

Attached is a comment left on a Youtube video titled "History of Sufism"

As for me, I abide by the very simple definition and ESSENCE of tassawuf which is, in fact, kitab wa Sunnah. This is what I have been telling these brothers. Although things could have been easy if the word "Sufi" was not invented.

Anti-tassawuf folks should rather focus on the essence rather than what XYZ folks do that may be considered reprehensible.

What anti-Sufis dont understand is that SUFISM is the very spiritual ESSENCE of Islam. You can not separate it. For the fact that these brothers dont understand this very simple thing means they are not as knowledgeable as they claim. It shouldn't take them Phd to figure out this simple mathematics.

ikupakuti:
But sincerely many of them want to return.

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I sensed this lately the way Sheikh Abdul Mojeed Eleha sounds in his lecture delivered in Texas. Their rejection of superiority of Awliya is hunting them gradually. Allah himself recognize Awliya but these people reject it. Although i personally dislike "sainthood". I choose my word properly. So I rather stick to what Quran and Sunnah call them which is Awliya not sainthood as in Christianity. BIG Difference.

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Dear brother & sisters, please pray for me, my name is Yusuf and I'm 25 years old I beg you as a Muslim that you send this letter to all your friends and acquaintance to reach as many people as possible, I want Du'a/supplication of you because I'll be operated with a very low chance of recovery I've a brain disease. Pls don't' close this message until you've forwarded it !!! Say "Lailahaillallah Muhammad Rassoul Allah I beg u with the name of Allah al Aziz, al Jabbar that u send it to as many people as possible.. Pray that may Allah heal me. Ameen


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Some relatives (cousins) are too close to the point that there is zero sexual attractions BTW them. This is common in Yorubaland.

I think reason yorubas consider it taboo is bcuz of chances of them having birth defects. Unfortunately, marriage to cousin is not mentioned amongst those women forbidden to marry. It is pretty much MUSTAHAB as stated in the Hambali school.

There is another case of Kalif Umar (ra) instructed a man to marry outside of his family bcuz they are thin and sick. This is exceptional case. Fact is, it is not haram but it doesn't go down well with yoruba and that's understandable.

Myself can't bcuz we are so close and no such feelings. And we don't even use cousin, nephew, uncle, aunt etc. You are either daddy, mommy, brother mi, sister mi regardless.

Other families may be different.

Do you know that: 5 things are gifted to us by Allah Azawajal?


1. Do you know that Prayers are never refused when done immediately after athan before iqamah? Ask Allah all ur needs during dis time, for, prayers are automatically accepted!

2. Do you know where our sins are kept while in salat? Sins are kept on our necks and shoulders and when we bow down to make the ruku' and sujud, they fall like how leaves fall from trees. So stay long while in ruku' and sujud!

3 Have you heard that a woman died and when her relatives visited her grave they felt an awesome fragrance coming out of her grave? They asked her husband and he said she recited suratul mulk every night while she was alive!

4. Do you know that if u recite ayatul kursiyyu after every congregational prayer that there will be nothing that prevents u from jannah except death?

5. Do you know that angels ask Allah to forgive us whenever we finish salat? So please stay long after salat, don't leave immediately! May Allah make this as sadaqatul jahriya for me and may Allah accept my prayers in tawassul with this act. May Allah also do the same to whom so ever forward this and benefit others as much as the number he forwards it... Ameen...Juma'ah Mufeedah .

Assalam Alaykum Waramotulahi Wabarakatuhu.

plainbibletruth:
So you need to see the story from the standpoint of the whole narrative and not just from a single verse.

But you singled out verses from Quran to claim it preaches violence and you unlike your cohorts are not willing to accept explanation but you want muslims to listen and accept yours. How fair is that?

Jesus Christ paid for the sins of the Jew and Gentile. So as the Bible says: "But to as many as did receive and welcome Him, He gave the right [the authority, the privilege] to become children of God, that is, to those who believe in (adhere to, trust in, and rely on) His name--"
JOHN 1:12

I rather eschew here cus if i should go further, you know other verses are in conflict with what you just said here. shaking my head

Therefore the issue is the same for all (you inclusive ):
"Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved ..." Acts 16:31

Jesus is God or a man (God's servant, prophet, messanger and slave of God?

sino:
Going further, her remarks about the Qur’an is not appropriate, when she herself acknowledges the fact that their knowledge about evolution may change with new discoveries (as it has always been changing), and she wants the Qur’an to also follow suit, changing the interpretations after new findings?! I don’t even understand how that is possible. I have asked AlBaqir, to explain some Qur’anic verses, perhaps in the light of new discoveries, but he has been “speaking in tongues” ever since…

I disagree with you. I think you misunderstood her. Scholars have said what she said as well. It is not about trying to fit Quran in to her theory. Not at all. Quran says it is for past present and future. it says it explains ALL things.

وَنَزَّلْنَا عَلَيْكَ الْكِتَـبَ تِبْيَانًا لِّكُلِّ شَىْءٍ "And We revealed the Book (the Qur'an) to you as an explanation of everything,"


Ibn Mas`ud (RA) said: "﴿Allah﴾ made it clear that in this Qur'an there is complete knowledge and about everything.'' The Qur'an contains all kinds of beneficial knowledge, such as reports of what happened in the past, information about what is yet to come, what is lawful and unlawful, and what people need to know about their worldly affairs, their religion, their livelihood in this world, and their destiny in the Hereafter


So the implication is that Quran MUST have talked about current and future discoveries not known to man yet. That's why we should not shut the door on everything. Quran (also) goes further to say:


وَهَدَى (a guidance) which means whatever it is discovered in the near future MUST and WILL NEVER contradict this ultimate criteria (The Noble Qur'an)


And after we scaled new discoveries with what Quran says (which by the way might be understood differently in the past), then Quran says give yourself good news


وَرَحْمَةً وَبُشْرَى لِلْمُسْلِمِينَ a mercy, and good news for the Muslims.


So I believe that knowledge moves forward in every aspect of our lives. The whole thing is in the Quran already but ONLY TIME will tell and Quran itself is TIME. The ayah below proves that Sahaba and people of the past could not understand many things yet to come. Like for instance, they could not imagined aircraft, computer and technology etc but Quran already speaks of these things.


"And (He has created) horses, mules and donkeys, for you to ride and as an adornment. And He Creates (other) things of which you have no knowledge." Surat an-Nahl, 8

So it not what you think she meant.

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shawl:
Please brother can you share with me your experience especially if it was spiritually uplifting.

It's been quite sometime I hear spiritually uplifting anecdotes. These days it seems to be more of arguments and conflict resolutions.

You may decline if it was some trials or something.

Indeed, long gone those days. Reason for arguments today is sign of gradual disbelief in unseen. But I think mister emekaraj needs to try some ruqya for precaution purposes the way he sounds

plainbibletruth:
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I think someone has explained Luke 19:27 to you before now. BUT you appear not to carefully read posts, rather you skip over them or skim whatever you want from them.
Let's help you understand it better.
[s]First, it is PART OF a PARABLE that started from Luke 19 verse 11.

Therefore you cannot take that single verse out and try to weave your meaning into it: THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT.

I trust you KNOW what a PARABLE is.

So when you come to verse 27 the issue is HOW do you apply the parable.

Jesus was not telling the listeners or readers to go and kill your enemies. It is the king in the parable who when he returned home said "But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them—bring them here and kill them in front of me.’"

So can you apply the PARABLE now?[/s]

Oh I see, Now you could tell me it was "explained" before?. Nonsense. Were those Quranic verses not explained to Christians here before?. Did you people care to listen and admit?. Now you are telling me it is "Parable" and you want me to accept it but reject our explanation?. For as long as you reject muslims explanations, then, your attempt to curry flavored Bible violence verses are null and void

Are you sure you are amongst those who killed our God?
Even if you were there's a way out:
“Therefore, my friends, I want you to know that through Jesus the forgiveness of sins is proclaimed to you. Through him everyone who believes is set free from every sin, a justification you were not able to obtain under the law of Moses."

Ask majority of Jews today if they believe in Jesus and get their answer. Then come here to tell me he forgives them

plainbibletruth, plappville your case is EXACTLY like this

^^^

All you have to do is refute my posts with EVIDENCE only. That's all. The way you all behave PROVES that you're not that knowledgeable. If you do, you would have understood what it means by Sufi without jumping of the couch. The word SUFI is an English word for At-tasawuf. Tassawuf is Science Of "Purification of Soul". This is simply Quran and Sunnah's Command. I am not done yet actually on Sheikh Islam Ibn Taymmiya.

emekaRaj:
This was the first time I saw them, since then wenever am fighting in my dreams they always come and fight with me.

Wallahu ta'ala alam. I am not going to dispute your claim for what you saw. Allah does has He pleases. But what I do know is that, from what my Sheikh told me few years ago, the day you see malaika(Angels) in their TRUE form, start preparing for your transition to alukiyamo i:e DEATH would be very close. The least i can say is hearing voices which very possible.

Some people have argued that humans can not see Jinns in their true forms but this is due to them reading texts only. In reality, if a Jinn decides to display himself, you will see him/her in their true form and I believe this to be true. Back in the days (in the 80s), my father and his elder brother were first to establish in the hood they are now. The entire area was bushy back then (now developed). So early morning for fajr salat, my dad's sister and her son who live less than quarter mile away arrived at our house and the guy collapsed just at the door step and his mother fled. We rushed out upon hearing noise. The guys said I see him, the jinn tall like palm tree with something like lamp on his head. His mom also said the same thing was the reason she fled but the dude fell unconscious.

But reading text however indicates you can not see them. The Islamic text NEVER said we can not see them as far as i know. It says they are seeing us from where we cant see them. But what if they choose to make themselves visible?. Absolutely you can see them but it is not healthy at all. Another confirmation that you can see Jinn is only through practical like people who do zikr and those who do ruqya. Sheikh Salahudeen Akindele narrated his experiences on two occasions about a Nigerian guy that lived in USA, who denied existence of Jinn and he did not hide this. He is a Muslim but denied them. One day in his apartment alone just after he returned from work, he was seeing legs from waist down, seeing chests but no head and legs etc and they started making noises that "you denied us?". Being Muslim and was aware of reciting sura baqara, he quickly turned on his stereo and played sura baqara. The jinn said to him it is too late and they would not leave his house regardless of how many times he plays the tape or recite baqara. The man realized he don entered one chance. He took the next available flight to Nigeria for ruqya. That's how Sheikh Akindele got to know. His second story was Sheikh Akindele himself is a raqi and he saw them. He said they can be tall as palm tree with a lamp on their head. They could have multiple heads etc. This goes to show you that experience is the BEST teacher. That's why people who are denying unseen need to be very careful bcus if Allah decides to set them on trial, them no go find it easy.

As for seeing Angels, either Malaika or ruhaniyun, I am yet to see that. If you said you hearing voices, i can relate to that. What i understand from that is we cant see them and the day you see them you dont live long. They usually appear in human form to deliver msg if Allah is pleased with you so that they dont scare you. Their true form is scary faah when the prophet (SAW) saw Jibril(AS) in his true form. If you had said when you do dhikr and strange being appears to you like a man, i can relate to this. They can enter from anywhere even if you lock your doors and windows. You will see him and once he finishes his assignment he lives. This usually happens to those who mention Allah's Names and attributes very often. A Sheikh narrated his ordeal to me. Said he was given some of Allah's Names by colleague Sheikh of his. But the Sheikh made mistake in pronunciation when he wrote the names down for him. He was supposed to recite the names for 7 days in seclusion but the 3rd day, a man entered from nowhere (doors and windows were locked). He was standing in front of him and sheikh asked him what he wants?. He said no word. He only bent down to correct the spelling and left. Sheikh did not know until he looked down. He said "Allahu Akbar..so i have been reading it wrong for 3 days".

My point is some muslims are denying Allah's Power indirectly by condemning what they know not. There is a lot in Islam and this is not about emotion. This is reality. If they dont believe it, fine. My advice is dont try seeing them often. You may not live long but doesnt mean you are doing anything wrong. It is just what it is. And I will also advice you to keep your experience private bcus people are going to call you a madman very soon.

As recorded by islamqa website, "And there is other saheeh (authentic) evidence from which it is clear that the angels can be seen, but only in the form in which Allah commands them to appear; and then everyone that Allah decrees should see them will see them."

JazakaAllahu Khayran for sharing your experience with us.

plainbibletruth:
The Christian does not belong to the Old Testament.
Nothing in the portion of the Bible you quoted even suggests that Jesus was saying "Kill your enemies" It is you that is trying to infer that.

So why do you carry it today by your arms?. Is old Testament God different New T. Since you said Christians have nothing to do with old testament why do you support Jewish people and Jewish state?. Don't run from the bible verse. Luke 19:27 talks about killing those who would not accept jesus to be king over them

Viewers of this thread can CLEARLY SEE that you are unwilling to face up to the issues of the shortcomings and defects of the quran.

You are also unwilling to do the same with your hero prophet - mohammed.

You cannot refuse to face facts and still hope to arrive at the TRUTH.

yes, I'm unwilling bcus no amount of explanations make sense to you. Just as you are unwilling to accept Bible violence. You try to distance yourself from Old Testament but you support the same people who killed your God

plappville:
All of them dey hid...

Where are the defenders of islam. Aminusate, empiree, udatso,sissoko22 ? You people claim islam is peaceful and that islam is growing? How can you prove that with all the daily killing of yourselves in the Middle East?

do you have a job at all outside of nairaland?. What's going on is more of political than religious one. Get a life

plainbibletruth:
I said "holy books". You're trying hard to TWIST it to "holy BOOK". All because you simply DON'T want to admit that you were WRONG in the first place

When i said earlier "You Are Not My Teacher" , I was simply referring to your language twist about "LOVE YOUR ENEMIES" because you are looking for the exact phrase in the Quran. So i cornered you in my last post. Now concerning "holy books", indeed i did not see the plural you added to it. So fact is we have One Holy Book which is Quran. We do not have Old and New Quran. Hadith you referred to however is not 100% holy. Hadith contains words of Nabi Muhammad, his companions, his wives, and countless other people including words of scholars. When you said holy, it means revelation from God transmitted to us by Muhammad. So the hadith of Aisha you cited does not meet that require. It is rather story or history but not divine revelation. The only thing Divine about it is their union itself bcus it was God Himself that revealed to the prophet about their marriage and their was no marriage ceremony of theirs on this planet.

You couldn't disprove that story on Aisha & mohammed. All you've done is resort to: " You are NOT my teacher and you can NEVER ever be. I know what Islam teaches So dont play yourself"

Is that story TAUGHT by islam or not?

What was the age of Mary the mother of your God when she gave birth to him and at what age she betrothed to Josef?. Your history shows that Josef was 99 yrs old and catholic said Mary was 12. So what's your fuss about Aisha and Muhammad?

We're talking about love for fellow HUMAN BEINGS and suddenly you bring in Satan. Does that make sense to you?

Yes, it makes sense. Show me in that Bible verse where it says ONLY humans you are to love?. According to you, the verse talking about "love" means unconditional love. So you MUST love Satan too. Otherwise, you are a joke and hypocrite.

If you claim that those are love verses from the quran, the QUESTION then is how do you RECONCILE them with these: [/b]
" Fighting has been enjoined upon you while it is hateful to you. But perhaps you hate a thing and it is good for you; and perhaps you love a thing and it is bad for you. And Allah Knows, while you know not." - quran 2:216

Why did God of Old Testament committed to wars against humanity?. Why did Jesus say to kill enemies who would not bow to him?. Why did Jesus say he did not bring peace but he came to divide people?


Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I have come to turn “‘a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law— a man’s enemies will be the members of his own household ~ Matthew 10:34-36


Does the above sound peaceful to you?. How do you reconcile the verse above ^^^^ with so called "peace" and "loving" your enemies?. I know you are not ready to listen for explanation of the Quranic verse so i wont waste my time unless and until you slow down your ego.

These are from only the quran and are not exhaustive. If we are to add those from the hadith and other Islamic literature then one can imagine the extent these verses of violence and hatred goes.

So, can you reconcile these with what you quoted?

Have in mind that you people claim that Allah's words do not change.

You can quote Quran verses all you want. I have nothing to explain to you. And dont pretend Muslims have not quoted Bible's violence verses all the time from both Old and New Testaments. So your claims here is null and void. Your case is like kettle calling pot black.

DEAL WITH IT or LEAVE IT

This is serious


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FastShipping:
The crime going on in some of our banks is mind boggling. This your experience reminded me of what happened to my mother few years ago. I had some naira sitting there for a long period of time. One winter period I asked my mother to come over to the U.S and help me take care my kids for about six months. My Naira sitting there was couple of million naira. I asked her to change it to dollars and wire it to me before jetting out of Lagos. 24 hours before her departure, she went to bureau de change and changed the Naira into dollars. She paid it into her dom account and flew to the U.S next day. By the time she got to the U.S, the money never reflected in my account. For over two weeks the money never showed. Luckily for her she has always known the lady who "did the transfer". She had her phone number in her diary. I rang her from the U.S with my land line phone and my mum asked why the money never showed in her son's account. Before you knew it, the lady started begging and apologizing that she used the money. My jaw dropped right there as I was listening to everything on speaker phone. She said she was short by few thousands and promisef to effect the transaction before the end of the week. Luckily, I eventually got the money in my account.

This happened at Union Bank.

My God.....I cant even imagine this could happen. What the heck is going on in nija?. It is like the country in in auto-pilot

plainbibletruth:
[s]There you go again!
I DID NOT say "holy book".
I said "holy books" - as in plural. Books not a single "book".
Are you so quick to comment that you don't take time to carefully read what is presented to you?[/s]

Can You LOVE SATAN YOUR enemy with ALL your Heart and Soul since you have unconditional "LOVE"?

You are not my teacher PLAINBIBLETRUTH.

When you LOVE SATAN with all your HEART & SOUL UNCONDITIONALLY , then I can take your bible quote serious. If not and if you can't pray for devil instead of raining curses on him, then, your bible "Love" is superficial.

More love love and love in the hadith

Sorry buddy. You are NOT my teacher and you can NEVER ever be. I know what Islam teaches So dont play yourself

plainbibletruth:
Look at this for example:
“Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you”
Luke 6: 27, 28
Can you give us anything near this in your holy book?

We do not have superficial "love" in Islam. We love for what God loves and we hate what He hates. Since you have so much "love" for your enemies, why dont you love SATAN?. Satan is Christians nightmare and you rain curses on him everyday. Why dont you love him?. Can you sincerely love Satan and pray for him as well?.

I cited these Quran verses before. If that donest rign the bell in your ears, then you might be deaf, dumb and blind -Bible

Below are the verses again....


"God does not forbid you to deal kindly and justly with those who have not fought against you about the religion or expelled you from your homes. God does not love the unjust people." (60:



"Virtue and evil are not equal. If you replace evil habits by virtuous ones, you will certainly find that your enemies will become your intimate friends." (41:340

And there are bunch of love love love love in the hadith. See attachments for tiny ones and i owe you no explanation unless and until you ready for LOVE the DEVIL himself. That's when your love becomes real

Why should YOUR quote from some untrusted source move me? Do you get angry when a dog barks at you?

The website speaks fact. Can you tell us age of Mary when she married?. Catholic said she was 12 years old and married 99yrs old great grandpa.

Don’t state what I NEVER wrote and try to pin it on me. Ok? You made the above statement yourself not me. Let’s get that straight. I didn’t say that the quran said anything like that. You must be trying to TWIST things again.
BUT:

This is what you said:

plainbibletruth:
On the other hand, if we are to STICK to your “holy books” we can unearth much ROT (which are FACTS for that matter) about the life of your hero prophet – hard nut for you to handle?

So you said our "Holy Book". Holy book in islam is Qur'an. You could not find the "rot" you claimed. You had to go to hadith to bring up narration. Just like I go outside of your Bible. So you either stick to Quran or not. If not, my article posted earlier is valid about "Age Of Consent" in the Bible

Ubenedictus:
I'm still canvasing for opinions. Do you think islam teaches violence?
How do you reconcile the verse that says no compulsion in religion to those that says convert or die\pay.

As a Christian, don't I think it is time to focus on your religion and work on your relationship with God rather than wasting your precious time sniffing around? A Muslim can also bring conflicting verses from your book and ask you to reconcile them.

Kaysalas:
I av only expressed an honest opinion why the insult? Not surprised anyway, unintelligent people result to insults verbal or physical when lacking intelligent points to back up their claims..... Hahaha... I am waiting for the next round of insults....shoot!

we know ur type. Have a good day

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