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Ubenedictus:
yeah,

Kaysalas:
Let me read both books and form my own opinions about them. I will be expecting the links soonest. Thanks bro. Gd nyt n a nice week ahead

RABIUSHILE04:
Even Shaytaan will claim he's ahlul sunnah. sufis and co who don't differentiate btw haqq and baatil.

BTW, ur post above r so 'akbaqir' of you. Seek Allaah's guidance, for I see u in 'ona anu'

Salafs r not elegbe,

lastpage:
Electric Fence?

That is a common thing nowadays!

What if they dont scale the fence (where you have 'danger') but just bulldoze a hole through the non-conducting part of the fence?
What if they first disconnect your Power Source (or do you use it on an Inverter/Solar Array?

You cant really prevent a robbers from coming to your house, if they are really determined to come.
But you can determine what happens to them, when they come and before they leave..... if they can leave.

Too many variables come into play such that there is no 'one-cap-fits-all' rule/method.



Lastpage!

tintingz:
If you say Adam and eve location and skin color don't matter to you then logical they never existed. You can't believe in something you don't know details about them, well it is faith they say.

From Africa.

Earliest human migrations and expansions of archaic and modern humans across continents began 2 million years ago with the migration out of Africa of Homo erectus. This was followed by the migrations of other pre-modern humans including H. heidelbergensis, the likely ancestor of both modern humans and Neanderthals. Finally, Homo sapiens ventured out of Africa around 100,000 years ago, spread across Asia around 60,000 years ago and arrived on new continents and islands since then.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Early_human_migrations

From my research so far it shows pre-mordern humans or pre-adamite existed.

It is possible they practiced incest and it is not possible, reason it is not possible is because scientifically the DNA combination is abnormality, a child born out of incest will suffer severe birth defects and early death. Then how did procreation happen?

And secondly there are no Hadiths backing it up, if there is you can present it.

Thank you.

plainbibletruth:
If you're man enough why not comment on the table presented. What are your views on the comparisons?

plainbibletruth:
You run away from looking at FACTS about your prophet maybe to assuage your conscience.

I guess you cannot TRUTHFULLY confront issues about the INTEGRITY OF LIFE of your 'hero' without having to take an OBJECTIVE stand; which will be for you to choose against him.

plainbibletruth:
So, what do you understand about what you posted?
Tell us so that we can begin to see you for who you are.

Ioannes:
Another classic evasion tactic. Throw in a red herring to distract us from the main point we're talking about.

We're talking about Mohammed and how he loved underaged puna and how he slept with his daughter-in-law, and how he wrote the original Satanic verses that told people they can worship many gods and then later recanted and said it was the devil that appeared to him to deceive him,

And how he encouraged the subjugation of women (till today women are forbidden to drive a car in Saudi Arabia and you can't enter Dubai if you're an unaccompanied female of less than 25years old (or maybe 21, I forget now).

You only need to ask around. The perversions of your prophet are so well documented in history it's difficult to miss them.

That's what this thread is about. Oya, defend your prophet.

tintingz:
A supreme being, a creator, a God.

tintingz:
Can you provide any authentic Hadiths that talk about Cain wife?. The assumptions that Cain married his sister is from Jewish books, some early scholars like ibn kathir copied it and used it as Quran narration.

There is Y-chromosomal Adam and Mitochondria Eve, this are scientific Adam and Eve that lived in Africa, they are blacks, it is different from the white middle eastern looking Adam that Abrahamic religious people paint them.

The earth got populated through migration by early humans,

I also believed in pre-mordern humans aside from Adam, something some people called pre-adamite which the bible almost fall into the trap when it says "Cain went to the land of Nod and sees his wife" it shows people must have been existing in the land.

Ioannes:
Classic evasion tactics. Insult me so that we can forget the truth staring us in the face that you're too ashamed to confront.

Nothing is more despicable than someone who lies to himself.

You'll help yourself by telling yourself the truth.

Start by studying the pix I posted and stop avoiding the truth they convey.

Ioannes:
Lol. Over 1400 years you say. Do you know how old Christianity is? How about Judaism? What about Buddhism?

Those who convert to Islam are in Syria fighting a needless Jihad. Or they constitute themselves to a nuisance popularly referred to as homegrown terrorists.

Just check out these facts below and tell me your conscience isn't nagging you, that is if you haven't killed it:

tintingz:
I believe an intelligent design created us with the process of evolution.

Ioannes:
I don't understand how people can read about the life of Mohammed and still believe in him. I just can't process that at all.

It should get to a time when your mind will be disturbed by your conscience and you'll feel an urge to truly consider the path you are treading instead of following a religion just because you were born in it.

If there's a nagging doubt in your mind, you'd do well to listen to it.

Ubenedictus:
Insult for insult no help anyone.

Kaysalas:
Hey empire! Kindly send me the links to the people vs Mohammed AND the refutal book if you have that too. My mail is my naira land handle @ yahoo dot com. Thanks in advance. Na wa o, I have bin asking for this book since 2 days ago una nor gree gimme. Pls be ur broda keeper na

annunaki2:
You think you are smart but in reality you are betraying how daft you really are. No amount of al taquiya stated by mohamed in the quoran can change the fact that the jewish prophets claimed by mohamed practised the jewish religion as clearly depicted in the torah and not a religion that was invented by a criminal thousands of years after they existed.

tintingz:
- Both the Bible and Quran never mentioned who Cain married.

- The story of twin sisters born with Cain and Abel or they married their sister is a Jewish myth, legend, it doesn't have any back up with the scriptures.

- To fill the gap, they(Jews) had to cook up some fairytale story, which one ibn kathir also copied as Quran narration, there are even no Hadiths backing it up(the reasons i don't take all these narration serious anymore). Seth was mentioned in the bible as the third son, where is Seth in the Quran?

- In the bible Cain went and dwelt in the land of Nod where he sees his wife and impregnated her.

(16) Then Cain went away from the presence of the LORD, and dwelt in the land of Nod, east of Eden.
(17) Cain knew his wife, and she conceived and bore Enoch; and he built a city, and called the name of the city after the name of his son, Enoch. (Genesis 4: 16-17)

Some Christians accepted that people were living in land of Nod(this already contradict Adam being the first man) some said bible didn't mention that, and this is where confusion started with different assumptions like cain married a woman in Nod, cain ran with his sister, the people of Nod are adam's children, like WTF i thought Cain was the first born?

- And please don't tell me Cain killed his brother Abel over a woman? Was this planned by God? I thought it was about the sacrifice.

You can see why things are not adding up. And one brother said Cain marriage does not matter/irrelevant.

annunaki2:
The question has already been answered, it's not my problem if your brain is not capable enough to comprehend it.

annunaki2:
You don't even know how to spell SHUT UP. When instead of going to proper schools, your life was being wasted in madrassas (ìlé kêwú). See your life.

madridguy:
WHY WE HAVE RECESSION:

* Tompolo was paid 13Billion.
* Ex-CDS,Alex Badeh dug a pit toilet to hide $32m.
* Patience Jonathan is claiming $31m, she has sued the Nigerian state.
* Femi Fani-Kayode took 740M.
* Dasuki used trucks to load over $35B from the CBN.
* Olisa Metuh took 400M.
* Aziboala, GEJ's cousin took 6B naira.
* Nenadi Usman took 3.5B naira.
* Fayose took 3B naira.
* Obanikoro took 4Billion naira.
* Olu Falae took 100M naira.
* Tony Anenih - 400M naira.
* Oritsejafor - $35M
* Former Air Chief Amosu - 2Billion naira.
* Lucky Igbinedion-16B naira.
*Bode-George and Dabo -100B naira
* Jolly Nyame-2.4B naira.
* Joshua Dariye-700M naira.
*Nyesom Wike stole #4b.
* Diezzani with $20 billion missing oil money?
15 billon dollars missing from arms fund, 10 billion naria, converted to dollars and given as gift to delegates of PDP Nation convention, Bafarawa collected 3 billion for spiritual purposes , 12. 7 billon naria for deceased NEPA staff grew wings and disappeared, 20 billion dollars missing from NNPC accounts, 23 billon naira as bribe to INEC staffs to rig the general election. The list is endless. They only left what they can't carry or unable to lay their hands on. The list continues.....
Recession didn't just happen, people looted Nigeria into RECESSION happening....

NOW HEAR THE THIEVES:

1. I acted based on Jonathan's instruction - Dasuki

2. I didn't give order - Jonathan

3. I collected 350M from Dasuki for consultation - Iyorchia Ayu

4. I only collected $30,000 from Dasuki not N100m - Bode George

5. I got N4.6b from Dasuki for spiritual purposes - Bafarawa

6. I got N650M from Dasuki for my Abuja burnt office - Thisday Obaigbena.

7. I got N2.1b from Dasuki for publicity - Dokpesi

8. I got another N100m from Yuguda he didn't tell me from where - Bafarawa.

9. I gave N100m each to Odili, Jim Nwobodo Bode George and others - Yuguda

10. The president asked me to change N10B to foreign currency for PDP delegates - Dasuki

11. My boss asked me to get $11M from the CBN - Dasuki's account officer.

12. I got order from above to pay Tompolo N13B for Maritime university land. - Nimasa DG.

13. 950m was shared in my house -- Shekarau

With all this looting and many more revealed, some people are still shouting no sign of change yet, they even say it's political persecution.

But I believe, it is the right thing to do.
If you believe too, send this to other people to garner more support for the fight against corruption and looting in our nation. There must be consequences for such crimes otherwise Nigeria will not develop.

annunaki2:
Unfortunately the source of your evidence has zero credibility and we all know that the jewish people practised judaism based on the old testament thousands of years before Islam was invented by that seventh century criminal. The fact that mohamed made an al taquiya claim in the quoran is no evidence neither does it make sense. It's clear from even your useless quoran and hadiths that the Jews practised a separate religion from that which mohamed invented and mohammed hated the Jews because they refused to accept him as a prophet.

AbdelKabir:
of course i wasnt telling you, i was telling unsuspecting Muslims so they wont fall for the name of the website.

ikupakuti:
@ empiree,

Slm,

To my own understanding, al-ghaib is what is unknown, unparcieved etc...which is objective

In the Qur‘an GOD has‘ through illustrations expatiate & categorized it into 3

1- What is unkown to one, be it at a particular time or at all times but known to some is regarded to as ghaib to the ignorant...viz- qur‘an 3:44

..in that vs GOD refered to the story of the debate on whos gonna train Nana Maryam as ghaib, which is unknown to the holy Prophet and his companions b4 then but known to the contemporaries of the time. Can we now say the actors of that event are aaliml ghaib? No! Why ? Becos ghaib ceases to be immediately it becomes known (for ghaib will 4eva remain the unknown)

This type of ghaib can be known through the appropiate means which conforms with that field whose “ghaib“ is sought

2- The one thats not revealed except to some choosen few (anbiya, their heirs ) based purely on merit , access to which is offlimits to the laymen, was also refered to as ghaib by GOD, viz- qur‘an 3:45, 46..., 18:65...82, 18:83...98 etc

3- The one thats unknown to all at all times except to GOD alone is also refered to as ghaib viz- qur‘an 6:59, 31:34, 74:31 (knowledge of the hour, sum of his creatures etc.. )

So, in conclusion, if a layman says to you that he has ilmul ghaib, hes only refering to whats khown to him and unknown to you @ the time

...if a prophet or an heir claimes knowledge of ghaib, you know what hes refering to

....if GOD calls himself aaliml ghaib, hes telling you hes in possession of all the three categories of it afore mentioned which makes him the only absolute knower of ghaib

...and as ghaib is classified into 3 so is alqadar too...for it being the flip side of ghaib.

AbdelKabir:
ok, this last part is the only thing that brings up what you sufis claim, that Allâh allow other tthan some messengers of Allah the knowledge of the unseen.

you quoting ibn hajar(and he quoting qurtubi), firstly would need it's reference so i can see the proof he provided.

BTW, dreaming is part of prophethood and still remains till this day, this has nothing to do with ilm ghayb, "inspiration while awake"?? what a lousy joke, sounds like some Christian nonsense to me.