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LouisBERG:
Is this real?? I don't think so.
Funny peeps
#caLLmeBERG

Sunnycliff:
But does this call for celebration

gabbytabby:
Your friend lost a good opportunity. I would say he should have collected the document and not just that but also sell it on and buy or build elsewhere.

babalose:
@ Empiree.....I am thinking about you standing in front of the mirror and seeing your hypothetical friend. You seem to have so much detailed information about this event like you are talking about yourself as a third party.
I doubt if anyone is learning anything from the story but rather making an input out of boredom or approach to pity.
As for me, I think this will make a good script for a home video but I doubt if their isn't any movie like this in the market.
Anyway, I still believe this belongs in the Family section but in all reality, it's keeping this thread active since no new construction idea or comment to deliberate for a few days now.

mufutau55:
Do the electrical piping first o, you don't want your window hammered.

Hajji M.

mufutau55:
We are talking about Nigeria here... what is actually legal in Nigeria?
You never hear about all the land palava in Nigeria... even with your C of O, people will still fight you for the land.
I will need the papers in my hand wheiter it's genuine or not... better than nothing.
I hope he does not have problem with it in future... but just saying.

Hajji M.

mufutau55:
You truly understood me without me saying all in my mind... Thank you for taking this to the highest level.
Polygamous family is a disease no matter which way you slice it... (The younger wife calling you and appealing to you about your father, for what; if not for her own benefit?)

@Em.piree
Your friend missed a good opportunity.. (Collect the damn papers and be done with it...)

Hajji M.

4nobody4every1:
Yes, his name can be changed / forged & the building / land will be sold without much ado, this is Nigeria where dog chop dog, you/your friend seems to be playing too cool with the Dad/family members/step mum.

Have you not read stories on Nairaland and other social medias where a wife or husband will kill just to inherit or take over a land or house?...my friend this is Nigeria, dont trust anybody, the heart of Man is deceitful & wicked, the love of money and the desperation to acquire wealth at all cost has made some people to have a dead conscience and they are ready to sacrifice anything to acquire wealth, you / your friend have all the signs already about his Dad, it is enough clue to take over the land/ building from his Dad and have his peace, Na person wey dey alive dey fight for property, well, l guess we are all wired differently.

If l am in your friends shoes, l dont need a herbalist / prophet/ Imam to advise me, with all the traits the old man has exhibited is enough for me to take over my investment without looking back, l have no apology for whatever decision l take, Like @ Hajj has said, your friend is on a long thing except he takes the bull by the horn

mufutau55:
Too much sympathy causes a lot of wahala. This is business and it should have been treated so.
Taking away the docs from the father does not mean they will not amend son/father palava later...
In a polygamy environment, never trust a step mother... too much jealousy. Personal experience speaking sir.
But all in all good luck to your friend, but please mark my word, this is not over o.

Hajji M.

mufutau55:
Very bad decision... the documents should have been taken away from the old man...
I am surprised the Lawyer is also suggesting to leave the docs with the Dad.
New stories will emerge later...

Hajji M.

babalose:
@Em.piree.....this is fast becoming a soap opera that belongs in the Family section. This thread is for Off-topic Thread - To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Constructions. I keep asking myself how this relates to the title of this thread except I am looking at it from a different perspective, even though I stand to be corrected.
I don't see how anyone here can help you in this matter neither do I see how you can also help in the matter.

lastpage:
[size=5pt]I have a conviction that guides me in all dealings: At the end of the day, THE TRUTH ALWAYS WINS!
You may go through hard and difficult times, but if you remain Honest and truthful, eventually, you will WIN and God will vindicate you.

Honestly, the world these days, is full of TREACHERY! It can come from the most unexpected quarters.

Let your friend continue to be honest and truthful. let him continue to do his duty, "as a son" to his father! Respect his father, fund his father as much as he can afford. There is much blessing in this.

But there is a Biblical cliché which l also believe-in: CURSE WITHOUT REASON, SHALL NEVER LAND!
irrespective of what EVERYBODY in the family thinks of him, as long as he is honest, truthful and does his duties as a son, to his father, l tell you, they are just ganging up on him for nothing!

Yorubas say: "Oko'baba ati omo ki'nwa, ko ma la'ala!
(A father and son's farm however adjacent they are, must have a line of demarcation...literally translated)

He can love his dad, be a good son, without holding property in joint custody with him.
His greatest problem wont even be his Dad, as time goes on (Dad will eventually come around but he must always ensure things are documented and well spelt out between them! No more transactions in-between).

His bigger problems will come from his siblings (younger and older). mark my words.
He needs to be very alert, pro-active and pre-emptive.
Let him also tidy up his "affairs" and house properly (Wills, Power of Attorneys, Next of Kin, e.t.c) because "The Dead stay Dumb" ! (James Hardly Chase Style).
I pray God will give him more blessings and long life to enjoy it, in good health.

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AlBaqir:
JABATA AND “SHAYKH AL-KILINI”


"They do not believe in aḥādīth. Both al-Bukhārī and Muslim are kuffār, according to them. But, they have a book which they believe.

Interestingly, Shaykh Jabata gives the name of the author of Kitāb al-Kāfī as al-Kilīnī. Alas, [color=#990000]there is no one with that name among the Shī’ī ‘ulamā! [size=17pt]The actual name of the author was al-Kulaynī, not al-Kilīnī. Kilīnī koo, cleaner ni.[/size] This fact is very telling about the Shaykh’s deep ignorance about the book and its noble author, may Allah be pleased with him.

lastpage:
I have a conviction that guides me in all dealings: At the end of the day, THE TRUTH ALWAYS WINS!
You may go through hard and difficult times, but if you remain Honest and truthful, eventually, you will WIN and God will vindicate you.

Honestly, the world these days, is full of TREACHERY! It can come from the most unexpected quarters.

Let your friend continue to be honest and truthful. let him continue to do his duty, "as a son" to his father! Respect his father, fund his father as much as he can afford. There is much blessing in this.

But there is a Biblical cliché which l also believe-in: CURSE WITHOUT REASON, SHALL NEVER LAND!
irrespective of what EVERYBODY in the family thinks of him, as long as he is honest, truthful and does his duties as a son, to his father, l tell you, they are just ganging up on him for nothing!

Yorubas say: "Oko'baba ati omo ki'nwa, ko ma la'ala!
(A father ans sons farm however adjacent they are, must have a line of demarcation...literaly translated)

He can love his dad, be a good son, without holding property in joint custody with him.
His greatest problem wont even be his Dad, as time goes on (Dad will eventually come around but he must always ensure things are documented and well spelt out between them! No more transactions in-between).

His bigger problems will come from his siblings (younger and older). mark my words.
He needs to be very alert, pro-active and pre-emptive.
Let him also tidy up his "affairs" and house properly (Wills, Power of Attorneys, Next of Kin, e.t.c) because "The Dead stay Dumb" ! (James Hardly Chase Style).
I pray God will give him more blessings and long life to enjoy it, in good health.



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GreenWhiteGreen:
History won't forget the atrocities Bola Ige caused in Osun State. The 29 million is useless. How about the civil servants that died during the retrenchment of workers in early 2000 under AD political party. Some children lost either their mom, dad or even both.

Bola Ige, you left no good legacy, So rest in pieces wherever you are.

asscb:
where are you brother?

rexben:
[size=16pt]Jesus never left heaven to come to earth to come and establish another religion called CHRISTIANITY.[/size] Christianity was founded by Paul. At antioch,after Paul taught those believers for a year,then they came up a name for them. In summary,Paul's disciples are first called CHRISTIANS,they were not disciples of Jesus.

AlBaqir:
@bold, that's why we challenge him and whoever hold his view that he should show us sahih hadith where the holy Prophet ever introduced his Ahlulbayt as "Jafar, Aqil, Abbas and their offspring". Just one hadith reported from the lip of Nabi. What is clearly proven is his introduction of Ali, Fatima, Hassan and Hussein, and his offspring as his Ahlulbayt.

His understanding of hadith Thaqalain (just like majority of the so-called salafiyyah) is that Nabi only commanded us to follow Quran but not his Ahlulbayt. On the contrary, they argued we are only commanded to "love" and "respect" them not to follow them.

Jabata is worse. He's a full blown heretic. Even the rest of his Salafiyyah compatriots have labeled him Khawarij. Obviously you have not hear anything from his lectures. Though he talks sense sometimes.

AlBaqir:
It seemed I missed something faah. What was Ibn Taymiyyah (the Mujassim)'s Tawil of the hadith? I will love to read it please.

AlBaqir:
[size=2pt]The hadith is clear as you have said. Your conclusion was just influenced by your firm belief that Nothing could be liken unto Allah. Your conclusion was not from the text. And I understand the urge to defend. "KhalaqaLLAHU Adama ala suratih...Allah created Adam in His image". You said, "Allah created Adam in Adam's image" Does that make any sense akhi? Adam was the first human being created by Allah. How then he was created in his own image? What was his (Adam) image before he was created?!

# Again, Some have tried to interpret the tradition by ascribing the pronoun (his image) to Adam himself not to Allah. Then the meaning would be that Allah had created Adam in Paradise in an image same to that when he descended to the earth. That Allah had completed him in one time and made him sixty cubits long and seven cubits wide, the same image, which his offspring on the earth saw, and he did not advance from a state to another. Adam was not a seed then became a clot then a lump of flesh then bones clothed with flesh then a fetus then a suckling infant then a weaned child then a teenager then a man with the normal length and width.

But it was narrated by Abu Hurayra in these words: “Adam had been created corresponding to the image of the Beneficent (Allah (S.w.T.)).” *Abu Hurayra had another tradition saying: “Prophet Moses (a.s.) beat the rock with his stick for the Israelites and water gushed out. He said to them: “Drink water, donkeys.” Then Allah revealed to him: “You intended to compare the human beings, whom I had created according to My image, to donkeys.”•

Ref: *^ Al-Qastalani mentioned this tradition in his book Irshad as-Sari, vol.10, pg.491and said that the pronoun (his) in Abu Hurayra’s tradition (Allah (S.w.T.) had created Adam according to His image..), referred to Allah (S.w.T.) and not to Adam.

•^Ibn Qutayba mentioned this tradition in his book (Interpretation of different traditions) pg.280, and made it as evidence that the pronoun (his) in Abu Hurayra’s saying: (Allah (S.w.T.) had created Adam according to His image) referred to Allah (S.w.T.) and not to Adam.

# Some also interpreted Abu Hurayra’s sayings: (Allah (S.w.T.) had created Adam according to His image) and (Adam had been created according to the image of the Beneficent) and in his tradition about Moses (I had created them according to my image) that Allah (S.w.T.) had created Adam and his progenies according to the attributes of Allah (S.w.T.).

Allah (S.w.T.) is alive, hearer, seer, talker, aware, willing and disliker. So He had given these attributes to Adam and his progeny. They fell into what they fled from, because the attribute of Allah (S.w.T.) is far above comparison. This is agreed upon unanimously among those who believe in transcendence of Allah (S.w.T.). Especially when we say that His attribute is He Himself and that He is the Truth as it is fixed in our principles of jurisprudence. Abu Hurayra advanced in this tradition. Sometime he narrated it as above and sometime he said: “If someone of you quarrels with another, let him avoid the face because Allah (S.w.T.) had created Adam according to His image.”
Ref: Muslim’s Sahih, vol.2 section on hitting face being forbidden, pg.397

Sometime he said: “If someone of you hits another, let avoid the face and not say: May Allah (S.w.T.) uglify your face and the face of whoever looks like you, because Allah (S.w.T.) had created Adam according to His image."
Ref: Mentioned by al-Bukhari in al-Adab al-Mufrad and by Ahmed in his Musnad, vol.2, pg.434[/size]

Newnas:
It suffices as evil for a person to speak of a companion with foul language such as dotard and even calling the wives of the prophet deviants and calling Abu Bakr and Umar innovators.

If he adds curses to it then he only increases in misfortune over misfortune.

There is no salafi brother that will do what you have said, except a shia in salafi clothing.

AlMuflihah:
Sincerely I can't find any on this particular hadith for I'm in a place I can't really search well. However what I believe could be responsible for the scarcity was because during the time of the salaf, they would explain in general terms what to do About verses and ahadith regarding the attributes of Allah generally for there wasn't really any fitnah of much heresies then, but later when the Jahmiyyoon surfaced that was when much explanations on the topic arose, that's why you would find many sayings on the topic after the surfacing of the sect than before it.

And Allah knows best.

AlMuflihah:
I understand how you feel about Newnas's post but let me show you how much of an evil casting aspersions and calling a companion a liar is... firstly it means the entire religion is false because the prophet was by far the most important figure in Islam but we're it not for the narations of the companions and their efforts, Islam would probably not survive and if they were to be accused of lying, then the entire religion will be false which will then contradict many verses in the Qur'an
Secondly calling a companion a kafir or liar is a very grave issue because it will go against verses of the Qur'an like this one
مُّحَمَّدٌ رَّسُولُ ٱللَّهِ ۚ وَٱلَّذِينَ مَعَهُۥٓ أَشِدَّآءُ عَلَى ٱلْكُفَّارِ رُحَمَآءُ بَيْنَهُمْ ۖ تَرَىٰهُمْ رُكَّعًا سُجَّدًا يَبْتَغُونَ فَضْلًا مِّنَ ٱللَّهِ وَرِضْوَٰنًا ۖ سِيمَاهُمْ فِى وُجُوهِهِم مِّنْ أَثَرِ ٱلسُّجُودِ ۚ ذَٰلِكَ مَثَلُهُمْ فِى ٱلتَّوْرَىٰةِ ۚ وَمَثَلُهُمْ فِى ٱلْإِنجِيلِ كَزَرْعٍ أَخْرَجَ شَطْـَٔهُۥ فَـَٔازَرَهُۥ فَٱسْتَغْلَظَ فَٱسْتَوَىٰ عَلَىٰ سُوقِهِۦ يُعْجِبُ ٱلزُّرَّاعَ لِيَغِيظَ بِهِمُ ٱلْكُفَّارَ ۗ وَعَدَ ٱللَّهُ ٱلَّذِينَ ءَامَنُوا۟ وَعَمِلُوا۟ ٱلصَّٰلِحَٰتِ مِنْهُم مَّغْفِرَةً وَأَجْرًا عَظِيمًۢا
Muhammad (SAW) is the Messenger of Allah, and those who are with him are severe against disbelievers, and merciful among themselves. You see them bowing and falling down prostrate (in prayer), seeking Bounty from Allah and (His) Good Pleasure. The mark of them (i.e. of their Faith) is on their faces (foreheads) from the traces of (their) prostration (during prayers). This is their description in the Taurat (Torah). But their description in the Injeel (Gospel) is like a (sown) seed which sends forth its shoot, then makes it strong, it then becomes thick, and it stands straight on its stem, delighting the sowers that He may enrage the disbelievers with them. Allah has promised those among them who believe (i.e. all those who follow Islamic Monotheism, the religion of Prophet Muhammad SAW till the Day of Resurrection) and do righteous good deeds, forgiveness and a mighty reward (i.e. Paradise).
48:29

AlMuflihah:
Do you mean the interpretation of texts on the names and attributes of Allah in General or on this particular hadith and other similar hadiths alone?

Newnas:
AlhamduliLlah, I read the article too, and increased in knowledge and guidance.


But Abu Hurayrah is free of the evil OP ascribes to him.

AlMuflihah:
Alhamdulillah!
You know why we need to understand Islam in light of the salaf is just like the prophet warned us about the breaking of the ummah into 73 sects, people could intentionally misinterprete texts to cause confusion and heresy, but the first 3 generations were specifically hand chosen as the best of generation by the prophet, hence anything we take as religion should be based on their understanding to avoid falling into errors.
And about the Christians, we need to be careful when engaging them for in the process, we might fall into worse error than what we are trying to achieve. Remember the prophet's instruction to us through Umar? We should not just condemn everything in their books for there are truths in it and lies, so we hold our tongues back from what are in their scriptures that the Qur'an didn't declare false lest we call the truth lie!

Newnas:
He is a shia, a twelve imam shia, the worst of all sects.