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AlMuflihah:Makes sense isn't?. Now is that established tafsir of the hadith 'in Adam's image' as understood by scholars?. You know it's like when trinitarian christians interpret ".....I'm ascending to my God and to your God" in the light of triune gods. The same verse can be read in the light of unitarian (One God). If the hadith is understood as you said, that his image refers to Adam, that makes sense. Then English translation needs revision. I will like to read scholarly opinion on this. However, it makes sense for a muslim to disagree with the hadith has its literally written. This has nothing to do with aqeeda, sects, path etc. It's rather tafsir issue. There is a similar verse in sura Hajj (22:78) "......it's He who named you muslims" There are muslims who think 'he' mentioned in the verse refers to Ibrahim(as) because some translations do not have parenthesis. I never understood it that way even without usool, tafsir. I have always thought it refers to Allah bcus Adam (as) came before Ibrahim (as) and Adam was a muslim. That's how I derived my meaning. |
proudkafir:You Feel Better With This ? The song of Isa ibn Miriam (AS) ~~ Jesus The Son Of Mary(Peace) My meal is fasting, My standard is awe of Allah. My clothing is of simple wool, My prayer in winter is at suns rise. My lamp is moonlight, My steed is my legs. My meal is whatever the earth gives me. I lay down to sleep at night and have nothing, I awake in the morning and have nothing, yet there is no one richer than I |
n3xt:Nice write-up. He did what he had to do to win over. He's not bad dude. Just felt threatened. If he was bad, he would have been so aggressive all these months of hearing crazy things. And, sure, good memories is always there. He has absolutely no resentment against his dad. But sometimes, love is even stronger if y'all do things from afar. |
lexiconkabir:Fundamentalist believes @bold needs to be understood with usool. Isnt what Christians say as well and we condemn them?. They too trying to explain their "usool" to muslims. Fundamentalist would condemn Christians for saying such thing but when his beloved shuyuk said the same thing, he has no problem with it but to defend it. |
mufutau55:I dont understand people at all. I follow this case very well. The matter is heading to close in favor of my friend. Guess what happened lately, everyone i:e my friend's siblings(older ones) and his mom and step mom now pressuring my fiend to give up the place for papa. Telling him to buy elsewhere. They said "we know papa is wrong what he did but we dont want issue that will break up family over worldly matter". Another brother, the eldest who had dealt with papa on this issue when he bought land from papa but papa took the land from him and resold it to him like 3 times and still he doesnt have the land. Which means papa has record of cheating his loins. But my friend never had that experience with papa. So now eldest brother is telling him to let go the place, that he should never have had anything to do with papa. He said ask him to sell the land and house and you share the money and build yours elsewhere. This statement coming out from his brother sound very ridiculous. His eldest brothers put him on "conference call". So my friend bullsh!t all of them. He cursed them out saying "nobody wants to talk to papa to calm down and give back docs etc but everyone put pressure on me. So basically, he feels like he had to lose the place he worked for. And he said to his brothers to f!ck off that he would do it the legal way, he doesnt care about family or biological father knowing fully well his father could definitely sell the place base on what he experienced with his brothers. Yes, papa sold their lands and resold it to them like 3x. But none of them had developed theirs. But my friend already developed his and spent millions on it. And asking him to give it up easily like that?. He said Never. So he connected with Attny 2days ago and ones attny noticed it is his biological father involved, he said let's take it through peaceful way first. If he gives it up... no case. If not then we use power of attny and police. So basically this is what siblings and mom said too (to talk to him but papa never made himself friendly with no one) but none of them talked to papa to peacefully give up. Instead papa is telling my friend that he would deny taking money from him to build anything. Now what do you expect him to do or say when papa said something like that?. Attny even asked if any member of the family talked to papa?. So now my friend peacefully called papa and to his surprise, papa talked nice that "i dont need your land. It is yours but becus everyone accused me and ganged up on me that's why i threatened to sell it. I dont need your lands. When you ready, ask someone to come for it". So my friend cautiously said Attny will come for it just to be on the safe side in case he changes his mind to be stubborn again. So now, his brothers thought he would never use attny bcus no one has ever done that to papa. As a result, they got furious why he would do that?. "We told u to calm down and resolve it peacefully but you didnt listen to us. Now it took outsider to tell you same thing which means you disrespect us". Now everyone gangs up on my friend for "disobeying and disrespecting them". In addition, my friend sent 100k to papa's account to keep him shut and give up the possesion. I am sure papa will not say that to all his "enemies" ![]() What i dont understand is why would they now blame him when, in fact, his eldest brothers had similar problems with papa and still have it. But the reason their is not much of a threat was bcus it was just land. They have not spent a dime on it. They act like they dont understand my friend's frustration struggling abroad and someone threatening to sell his life investment. How else should he react to such threat?. Right now, attny will collect the docs, send it to my friend and case close. Then he should just give it time for everything to calm before continuing the project. What a world. In a nutshell, his brothers and mom tried to interject religion and culture to subdue my friend which my friend said "i dont give a f!ck about it. This makes them angry and they consider it insult. They dont want to understand the frustration. Yes, he may have gone overboard with language he used talking to them but all these years he was calmed when everyone said papa mismanaged his funds. He defended papa that there is no evidence for the allegation levied against papa. He was never upset. Why now that he busted and everyone turned against him. He did what he had to do and it works well for him. Lobatan |
Fundamentalist:Excuse me? What are you talking about?. When it comes to debate, Acadip was right. We use what is "plain and clear". There is no need for acadip to delve into such ahadith in interfaith debate. It is rather an issue within muslims. This is proper methodology. Even if usool of the hadith is to be explained, you think the Christians would still understand? And if you think everything in sahih hadith is 100% authentic, i feel sorry for you. Albaqir already cleared that for you. And you keep talking about Aqeeda, is there anything in the Quran that made mentioned of "Aqeeda"?. Answer is no. The muslims audience at Acadip are on one belief. Call it "aqeeda" if you want. Their belief is Lailaha ilaAllah. Dont start telling us they are ignorant bcus you use that word too often. |
"Nothing Legitimately Belongs To A Muslim Which Belongs To Another Muslim Unless It's Given Freely And Willing-fully" ~ RosuluLlah {ﷺ} |
mufutau55:Really crazy. What kind of making me uncomfortable is despite knowing baba is guilty folks(brothers, sister, mom) keep telling my friend to be patient and stop building project while surveyor, attny are telling him to fence the place. But none of the family talk to dad cus he doesnt make himself friendly. They put pressure on my friend not to escalate to court. If they want him to be patient they simply need to talk to dad too to give up docs whether he wants to listen or not. The reason he's upset and doesn't want to give up docs is bcus he's not getting his share of the money anymore. Well, wanna try using power of attorney to get him give up docs. He's fraud |
daretodiffer:It's called "NAIRALAND ENCYCLOPEDIA". It's another ocean of knowledge. So deal with it darling. |
gabbytabby:That sucks |
IG264:Prayer, While It Highly Recommended, You Need To Be Practical As Well. Do You Watch Inappropriate Movies, Video Etc?. If You Do Stop That. How Do You Sleep At Night, With Pant & Cloth On Or Nak!d?, Before You Go To Bed, Take Shower, Wear Pant & Cloth Jilbaba/Abaya Preferably. Do This For Two Weeks In A Row See How You Feel. |
lexiconkabir:This Should Take You Back To Another Crazy Debates On This Subject Via Sino Versus Albaqir. It Is Never End. sino: |
lexiconkabir:It's crazy, isn't? . Since there will never be any book in the world free from errors except Qur'an, it is only makes sense to say those ahadith were tampered with or "mis-narrated" or misquoted. However we have some muslims who believe that whatever is narrated in sahih Bukhari and Muslim is authentic. Their "evidence" is, if those ahadith could survive centuries of great scholars of islam and were not critisized, who the heck is us in 21st century to say they are fabricated ahadith. That's their weak evidence. |
lexiconkabir:In My Opinion, It Seems There Was Mass Compilation That Led To This Mixup. Doesnt Necessarily Mean Imam Bukhary's Fault |
n3xt:Lol @underlined He is. He Is Not Surprised By His Attitude Bcus He Did Same Thing To His Elder Brothers. It Is "Speak Up" Time. Certain Line Should Not Be Crossed. What I Can See Here Is He's Trying To Dominate.....FOREVER!Someone From His Kids Needs To Cut That Sh!t Off And That's Gonna Be My Friend. He Is A Quiet Guy But His Pap Is Crossing His Line Now. |
n3xt:Definitely He Will. He Got Support From Some Family Members. But Hes Not Really Interested In That. He Wants Law To Take It Cause. He Just Told Me An Hr Ago That The Lands Actually Belonged To His Dad. He Sold The Land To Him. He Said He Just Threatened To Sell The Land And If He Doesnt Behave Himself, He Will Sell His House As Well. He Said "I Dont Want You On My Land Anymore. I Will Sell The Land And Give Your Money Back". He Will Never Give It Back. He Did The Same To His Elder Brothers. It Is The Same Land He Sold To My Friend. My Friend Did Not Know It Was His Land Until He Saw The Survey. He Said He Never Said That Until This Morning. If He Knew It Was His Land, He Would Have Nothing To Do With Him. Either Way, Was His Lands Or Not, This Guy Paid For The Lands. Papa No Longer Has Control Over It. He Said Because He Disgraced Him Publicly By Continuing With The Project Without His Knowledge. But He Had 3yrs In His Hand To Finish The Project. Instead, He Was Just Asking For Money. And Yes, He Wants To Cut Him Off Completely And Live His Life. Too Much Bs |
4nobody4every1:Exactly |
agarawu23:He Is Not Even Hungry. He's Rich In His Own Way. He Just Has A Kind Of Attitude I can't Describe. I Can Say Maybe He Doesn't Wish Them Any Good. And He Wants To Dominate Them. According To My Friend, He Said He Respects Strangers And Trusts Them But Never His Own Loin |
Rilwayne001:Loool....Your Case Would Be That Of Aki, Pawpaw And Sam Loco ![]() |
^ Really Pathetic. He Feels He Owns Him Forever. There Gotta Be A Drawn Line Where Parents And Children Dont Cross. |
Annunaki:But Your Bible Says To Turn The Other Cheek. Aren't You Disobeying Your Bible Order?. It Says You Should Not Revenge, You Should Not Defend. Luke 6:29 and Matthew 5:39 "But I tell you, [size=20pt]do not resist an evil person.[/size] If anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to them the other cheek also." You Are Not A True Christian, Buddy. Your Bible Says You Should Be A Simp Where Every Tom, Dick And Harry Walk All Over Y'all. Now Address The Op. Intent Of This Thread Is Violated Far Too Long. I Just Had To Step In Now. For The Meantime, I Leave You Two To Fight It Out. |
@ Haj Mufu, Update...... Remember Friend Of Mine I Was Talking About?. He Decided To Go Ahead And Complete Abandoned Upper Floor. He Did Not Want To Wait Until He Goes To Nija. So Builders Are Working On It Last Month Without His Dad's Consent. Some People Found Out And Let His Dad Knows Strangers Are Working On The Project. He went Straight To The Police Station To Report It. He Sent His Younger Wife To Go To My Friend's Mom To Confirm If My Friend Ordered Ongoing Project. My Friend Was Upset For Having His Step Mom To Question His Mom Over His Project. Someone Called Him To Call His Dad To Stop The Police. So He Did And Let Him Know He's Aware Of Those Working On His Site. His Dad Was Upset And Screamed To The Whole World. Something He Supposed To Keep Secret From Day One. He Never Kept It Secret. He Had Strangers Taking Care Of The House While My Friend's Blood Brothers And Sisters Are Around. He Gave Legal Documents Of The House To Strangers. All These My Friend Found Out. His Father Is Still Talking And Reporting His Son For Building The House To All Types of People Because He Considered It Insult For Continuing The Project Behind His Back. He Said It Means He Accused Him Of Looting His Hard Earn Money (Which Is True Of-Course). My Friend Already Asked For His Docs 3yrs Ago, He Never Gave It Up. Now He's Trying to Use It Against Him. He Wants To Sell The House. Trying To Change Names On The Docs To His. My Friend Entrusted His Docs With Him Just Bcus He's His Father And He's Stabbing His Son From The Back. But He Talked To A Lawyer In The Local Govt And Was Told His Dad Wont Be Able To Sell It For Number Of Legal Reasons. Besides, It Is Fraud. But They Advised Him To Fence It ASAP To Keep D!ck Head Out Of His Land. I Dont Understand Why His Father Is Doing This. Some People Now Advising My Friend To Sell The House Bcus Of Too Much Noise. Yes, The Noise His Father Makes Is Damn Too Much. He Is Just Talking Trash About His Son To Anybody Over What. I Dont Condone Selling The House. I Believe He Should Rather Fence It, Get Attorney To Recover His Docs From D!ck Head Old Fool And Put Up Signs Of "Not For Sale" On The House. He Is In The Process Of Doing That Now. His Father Has His Own Completed Houses In Lagos And Ogun And Vacant Lands In Those States. I Dont Know What More He Wants. Bottom line Is, He Has No Respect For His Children. He Divulged His Children's Personal Affairs With Strangers They Dont Know Of. The Thing Is, My Friend Has Another Land Opposite Current Construction Site And The And Land Is Not Fenced. His Dad Is Threatening To Sell It. He Already Got A Lawyer To Aid His Fraud.He Has Bunch Of Strangers Running Over His House To Check What's Up There. Is This Man Insane Or What. |
AlBaqir:There Is No Doubt The Hadith Is Fake. I Hope It's Not Graded Sahih. Good News Is No Muslim Compared Allah With Anything. Majority Cling On "there is none like Him" Reminds Me During Acadip Dawah, A Christian Brought It Up. But Unfortunately For Him, The Debate Was Qur'an Versus Bible. If This Hadith Is Graded Sahih, I Wonder What Fundamentalist Brother Meant By There Is Nothing Weak Or Fabricated In Bukhari And Muslim. |
HomoSapiien:See How You Brought Injustice Upon Yourself?. You Havent read It But You Called It Rubbish?. By The Way, How Did You Pass WAEC, JAMB, NECO, Etc If You Cant Read This Simple Note? |
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This Is A Scene That I Memorized Back In 2007, And I Phrased It To My Christian Friend At Work, Nick. This Is The Scene That Brought Him To Islam. It Was Fun That Night. When He Got Home After Debates With Me For A Week, I Formatted His Pre-Existing Beliefs About Jesus According To Bible. Since Then, He Can Not Stop Asking Me Questions About Islam. At The End Of The Week, He Is Gradually Changing, Started Talking About Islam With His Wife. His Wife Said "who have you been listening to?". They Had Arguments Back And Fourth And He Finally Told His Wife That He Wants To Be Muslim. A Month Later, His Wife Accepted Islam After Strong Arguments With Him. Nick Was Only 21 At That Time. They Are Caucacian. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IR-eWKkWHmU&ebc=ANyPxKr2ulaoPELmzdKbujUI5ASPyufKuIDUhmcE4IcTE__tEPz2Pbh9yaBIg6nzDXvc6IGxiH52&nohtml5=False |
HomoSapiien:Prophet Muhammad's Last Sermon Date delivered: 632 A.C., 9th day of Dhul al Hijjah, 10 A.H. in the 'Uranah valley of Mount Arafat. After praising, and thanking God, he said: "O People, listen well to my words, for I do not know whether, after this year, I shall ever be amongst you again. Therefore listen to what I am saying to you very carefully and TAKE THESE WORDS TO THOSE WHO COULD NOT BE PRESENT HERE TODAY. O People, just as you regard this month, this day, this city as Sacred, so regard the life and property of every Muslim as a sacred trust. Return the goods entrusted to you to their rightful owners. Treat others justly so that no one would be unjust to you. Remember that you will indeed meet your LORD, and that HE will indeed reckon your deeds. God has forbidden you to take usury (riba), therefore all riba obligation shall henceforth be waived. Your capital , however, is yours to keep. You will neither inflict nor suffer inequity. God has judged that there shall be no riba and that all the riba due to `Abbas ibn `Abd al Muttalib shall henceforth be waived. Every right arising out of homicide in pre-Islamic days is henceforth waived and the first such right that I waive is that arising from the murder of Rabi`ah ibn al Harith ibn `Abd al Muttalib. O Men, the Unbelievers indulge in tampering with the calendar in order to make permissible that which God forbade, and to forbid that which God has made permissible. With God the months are twelve in number. Four of them are sacred, three of these are successive and one occurs singly between the months of Jumada and Sha`ban. Beware of the devil, for the safety of your religion. He has lost all hope that he will ever be able to lead you astray in big things, so beware of following him in small things. O People, it is true that you have certain rights over your women, but they also have rights over you. Remember that you have taken them as your wives only under God's trust and with His permission. If they abide by your right then to them belongs the right to be fed and clothed in kindness. Treat your women well and be kind to them, for they are your partners and committed helpers. It is your right and they do not make friends with anyone of whom you do not approve, as well as never to be unchaste... O People, listen to me in earnest, worship God (The One Creator of the Universe), perform your five daily prayers (Salah), fast during the month of Ramadan, and give your financial obligation (zakah) of your wealth. Perform Hajj if you can afford to. All mankind is from Adam and Eve, an Arab has no superiority over a non-Arab nor a non-Arab has any superiority over an Arab; also a white has no superiority over a black nor a black has any superiority over white except by piety and good action. Learn that every Muslim is a brother to every Muslim and that the Muslims constitute one brotherhood. Nothing shall be legitimate to a Muslim which belongs to a fellow Muslim unless it was given freely and willingly. Do not, therefore, do injustice to yourselves. Remember, one day you will appear before God (The Creator) and you will answer for your deeds. So beware, do not stray from the path of righteousness after I am gone. O People, NO PROPHET OR MESSENGER WILL COME AFTER ME AND NO NEW FAITH WILL BE BORN. Reason well, therefore, O People, and understand words which I convey to you. I am leaving you with the Book of God (the QUR'AN*) and my SUNNAH (the life style and the behavioral mode of the Prophet), if you follow them you will never go astray. All those who listen to me shall pass on my words to others and those to others again; and may the last ones understand my words better than those who listen to me directly. Be my witness O God, that I have conveyed your message to your people. *The Qur'an: Revealed to Prophet Muhammad during the period from 610-632 AC. The first five verses revealed are: (1) Read in the name of your Lord, Who created. (2) Created man out of a clot that clings (in the womb). (3) Read and your Lord is the Most Bountiful. (4) Who taught by the pen. (5) Taught man that which he knew not. |
sino:My Point Exactly |
MrPresident1:Olohun A Gba Be o. Ameena I Don't Even Think Higher Exchange Rate Should Drive Up Prices Of Goods At Local Market Except For International Traders In Import And Export. I doubt Nigerian Govt Will Be Able To Handle This Challenges Of High Rate. They Should Rather, In My Opinion, Regulate Local Businesses. It Is Extremely Difficult To Fight IMF. Anyone Think This Devaluation Of Naira Happening By Accident?. I Don't Think So. It Is A Remote Devaluation By Oga At The Top. Keep Your Eyes Out While $ Reaches #400. It Is Quiet Positive Thing For Diaspora Brothers/Sisters. |
seanwilliam:Ball Is in Your Court |
Annunaki:You Would Never Know Where I'm Driving At. Whether You Discuss It Or Not, Clearly, You Didn't Clean Your House Before Criticism Of Islam And Muslims. Now, To Believe In Trinity Or Not Is Clearly Two Different Doctrines. Both Can Not Be Right. One Has To Be Hell Bound Or Both. Therefore, Your Cohorts, parisbookaddict, malvisguy2012, truthman2012 And Your Other Bigots Brothers And Sisters Believe In Trinity But You Don't. Yet, You Claim You Read And Believe In The Same Book. Are You The One Going To Hell Or Them?. Jesus Either Supports Trinity Or Not. He Could Not Have Supported Two Doctrines At The Same Time. My Point, Clean The Mess In Your Backyard Before Sticking Your Smelly Nose On Islam. Garrit? Even Christian Scholar8200 Believe In Trinity. And You Guys Tell Us Bible Isn't Corrupted? |
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