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Politics / Re: “The Results Are Blurry”. INEC Witness Admits In Court Under Cross Examination. by engineerboat(m): 2:32pm On Jul 06, 2023
DOptical:


Nothing was blurred. He cancelled it as soon as Tinubu started topping while those who were previously supporting the collating because they thought it would favour Obi started to blackmail and attack Essien unwarranted thus he had to cancel it. Others helped to complete the collation and Tinubu still won.

He concluded it to the point of where the 18k pu result where blurred
Politics / Re: “The Results Are Blurry”. INEC Witness Admits In Court Under Cross Examination. by engineerboat(m): 2:11pm On Jul 06, 2023
DOptical:


That was when Essien cancelled it. He didn't complete the collating because he thought it would favour Obi. He had first started from Obi's stronghold where Obi was topping but as he continued to collate from other areas, Tinubu came above and he quickly stopped the whole thing. Others helped him complete it and Tinubu won.
How did you want him to complete it with 18k pu result blur, wrong, picture of presiding officer and some student exam questions.

Think it naaaa
Politics / Re: “The Results Are Blurry”. INEC Witness Admits In Court Under Cross Examination. by engineerboat(m): 2:09pm On Jul 06, 2023
garfield1:


Yes to an extent.it is useful in the absence of manual results

As usual in your usual manner.

IREV Is a check where there where contentions

Why didn't INEC reach out for IREV in all the collation centre as it was done in some state during the governorship election why did INEC refuse to do this for the presidential election.

You know the answer already, they did not upload AN OWN GOAL
Politics / Re: Mbah Appoints Ladi Akeredolu-Ale MD Of Enugu State Broadcasting Service by engineerboat(m): 1:49pm On Jul 04, 2023
Cooly100:

https://dailypost.ng/2023/07/04/mbah-appoints-ladi-akeredolu-ale-managing-director-esbs/

This Man again,

well lets see what He has to offer, he has worked in some other State as Manager, yet nothing to show for It,
Politics / Re: Festus Okoye: I Don't Understand Reliance On IReV when the parties had agents by engineerboat(m): 10:11am On Jun 30, 2023
fergie001:
Excerpts from Seun Okin's interview with Festus Okoye, INEC's National Commissioner on Voter Education/Publicity on #PoliticsToday


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTEz6hr3ovQ




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwEo4JM3P1s




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTl9nzlsi-w



Seun should know that Festus Okoye will not say what happened differently from what they've been prep to say at the ongoing tribunal saying anything otherwise will be counter productive to their defence

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Politics / Re: FG Discontinues Funding Of Professional Bodies, Councils by engineerboat(m): 6:41pm On Jun 29, 2023
olawonder:


Which professors are you talking about? Professional bodies in Nigeria are mostly self-established in the era of military regimes as a copycat to what they saw in Western countries… in contrast, professional bodies in the West are greatly influential in policies making within govt, they do a lot of research and mostly source funds from private companies and individuals, govt contributions are very minimal to discourage corruption and inefficiency. Some of the researches bring about changes in environmental policy, economic development and new innovations in tech and infrastructure.

The same cannot be said about these mumu organisations in Nigeria, call any of these ‘professors’ to come and make public presentations on any new ideas that can change the lives of Nigerians positively, na you go switch off young tv in agony!

In Nigeria we onow what is good to do but we will never do

Most of this Regulatory or council are there for their pocket.

No innovation

They are mostly concerned about registration and annual practising payment.

After the payment you are on your own, whether you make the money or not nothing concerns them

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Politics / Re: FG Discontinues Funding Of Professional Bodies, Councils by engineerboat(m): 6:35pm On Jun 29, 2023
ppogba:


The councils DO NOT generate revenue for government sir.

Coren remmit into FG Account every, Incan Authoritatively say this to you.

I hoe you are not confusing NSE with COREN
Politics / Re: FG Discontinues Funding Of Professional Bodies, Councils by engineerboat(m): 3:30pm On Jun 29, 2023
nlfpmod:


https://thenigerialawyer.com/orosanye-report-fg-discontinues-funding-of-professional-bodies-councils/


Previous thread https://www.nairaland.com/7744252/subsidy-professional-bodies-removed

It's still the masses that will suffer for this.

The council generate revenue for government.

Why did theg exclude JAMB also
Politics / Re: Peter Obi Vs Tinubu: 23rd June 2023 Live Court Updates by engineerboat(m): 12:20pm On Jun 24, 2023
madridguy:
I dey oooo boss. Hide as in? Na you we no see maybe the dancing governor don give you office.


I dey hooo, office ke

I was busy my schedule is becoming choke

How life naa
Politics / Re: Peter Obi Vs Tinubu: 23rd June 2023 Live Court Updates by engineerboat(m): 9:37pm On Jun 23, 2023
madridguy:
I no be lawyer ooooo and no where I don take say I be lawyer. Stop calling me what I am not.



De madridguy long time.

Na wa hoooo Why you come hide go naaaa
Politics / Re: Peter Obi Vs Tinubu: 20th June 2023 Live Court Updates by engineerboat(m): 8:59pm On Jun 23, 2023
IfnobeGod20:

I stopped arguing with the guy because the rate at which he manufacture things is alarming and if you're not careful and not knowledgeable, you will fall victim of his misinformation. Many of his comments, he has been rubbishing IREVs and saying supreme court discountenance it in the judgement between Oyetola and Adeleke and I have told him to produce the excerpt for long but till date he has not done so.

That is one of the reason I get a portion of the Judgement for him,

As usual of Him he is about abusing and making unfound claims, same way He was shouting about on Osun BVAS report when we tell him then it is physical BVAS.


He is now comparing Oyetola Plea with OBI/Atiku plea which is entirely different plea and case.


I rest my case about him loro e jare

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Politics / Re: Ex-Depot Petrol Price Rises To ₦‎490 Per Litre by engineerboat(m): 11:16am On Jun 22, 2023
fergie001:
Hope a litre doesn't get to #700 soon.


A lot of chess game is going on.

Dollar will keep going high

Then the complain of Import palaba/dollar rate,

By the way Happy Bornday, Happy many year on this earth by His grace. More wisdom and Knowledge.
Politics / Re: Peter Obi Vs Tinubu: 20th June 2023 Live Court Updates by engineerboat(m): 9:09am On Jun 22, 2023
senatordave1:


The supreme court in several cases have told us that guidelines cannot be used to nullify elections.guidelines in 2015 gave inec powers to use card readers and servers in 2019.wgat happened eventually? Fake engineer

You see yourself

You're showing your true colour now.

Well let me cure your ignorance with this supreme court snippet

So in your vainglory immagination 2023 election was conducted with 2015 EA

As usual of yoù when you dont have anything meaningful to say you come out in your true colour, abuse lo kan kare,

Garfield1/Senatordave01 pele oooo

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Politics / Re: Peter Obi Vs Tinubu: 20th June 2023 Live Court Updates by engineerboat(m): 9:03am On Jun 22, 2023
IamV:


Have you now realized that engaging him is a total waste of time & energy ?



Sometimes one needs to help him so he can get informed about some reality
Politics / Re: Peter Obi Vs Tinubu: 20th June 2023 Live Court Updates by engineerboat(m): 7:14am On Jun 22, 2023
senatordave1:


My brother,the most important copy is the physical copy.any thing online is secondary


Did you read osun judgement you're quoting very well

Politics / Re: Peter Obi Vs Tinubu: 20th June 2023 Live Court Updates by engineerboat(m): 6:08am On Jun 22, 2023
senatordave1:


The electoral law clearly says transmit to inec server.eveb that guidelines clearly upholds the supremacy of the physical hard copy

And wbat is server

How many server beloging to INEC that you know

How many domain name of INEC that you know


How many subdomain name of INEC that you know

Instead of taking time to understand issue you will keep quoting what is not
Politics / Re: Peter Obi Vs Tinubu: 20th June 2023 Live Court Updates by engineerboat(m): 6:06am On Jun 22, 2023
IfnobeGod20:

But INEC never made reference to any csvsr in their 2023 Regulation for the conduct of the general elections. You're the one trying to manufacture what is not and court will never admit what is not written in the constitution, electoral Act or INEC guidelines for the conduct of the elections.

Here below is INEC reference to the use of IREVs for the conduct of the election. So stop manufacturing your intent to justify your assertion.

92. At every level of collation, where the INEC copy of collated results from the
immediate lower level of collation exists, it shall be adopted for collation.

93. Where the INEC hardcopy of collated results from the immediate lower level of
collation does not exist, the Collation Officer shall use electronically transmitted
results or results from the IReV portal to continue collation. Where none of these
exist, the Collation Officer shall ask for duplicate hardcopies issued by the
Commission to the following bodies in the order below:
(i) The Nigeria Police Force; and
(ii) Agents of Political Parties

94. Where no hardcopy of collated results is available, the results, where possible,
shall be regenerated from the preceding level (Collation or Polling Unit) in
accordance with Clause 93 of these Regulations and Guidelines

You see IREVs boldly written on clause 93. I will be glad if you can point out where INEC reference your so called csvsr. I know you will still find way to deflate to another thing. Keep it up.

Leave him alone.

He's confused, he heard the word cavs (continous accreditation and voting syste) but did not know what are system components.

CVRS is continous Voters registration viewing portal, he knows nothing about INEC servers and various portal, he's just jumping up and down quoting different story, you will be surprised at his next reply to you, no correlation
Politics / Re: Peter Obi Vs Tinubu: 20th June 2023 Live Court Updates by engineerboat(m): 5:50am On Jun 22, 2023
senatordave1:


No evidence that collation officers ignored it.results from irev and ec8a will differ but by how widespread?

I can't help you further ire ooo
Politics / Re: Peter Obi Vs Tinubu: 20th June 2023 Live Court Updates by engineerboat(m): 5:49am On Jun 22, 2023
senatordave1:


My brother,the most important copy is the physical copy.any thing online is secondary


Sorry then i must say you don't know what us going on in the court.

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Politics / Re: Peter Obi Vs Tinubu: 20th June 2023 Live Court Updates by engineerboat(m): 11:29pm On Jun 21, 2023
senatordave1:


Honestly,I also want us to stop arguing about sections of the law that are ambiguous until the court makes pronouncement just as they made on double nomination.it is tiring and futile.sept seems far...but adeleke vs oyetola gave us a clue.but think about this if accreditation transferred to inec server from bvas is third hand,is it the one transferred to irev from same bvas that is first hand? Apply discretion here...

Tendering exhibits in court is one thing,linking it to specific parts of the case and making reference to it or expatiating on it on open court is another thing.obi has tendered result sheets hardcopy yet is silent on them.instead of him to have recounted them or commissioned a mathematician to analyse and tabulate them,he tabulated the irev copies .does that not tell you that tinubu actually won in both physical and soft copies? Unlike 2019,obi has not said in court or brought evidence or alternate results showing he won.instead,all his evidences are geared towards proving irregularities.

You're getting confused


EA gave INEC Power to set guideline.

And INEC Publicly announced the guidelines.

At many collation centre, result where tampered with which is totally different from PU result.

However by law INEC has made provision for onsite uploading to serve as check in such situation.
Those collation officers ignore such.

Now we are where we are
Politics / Re: Peter Obi Vs Tinubu: 20th June 2023 Live Court Updates by engineerboat(m): 11:25pm On Jun 21, 2023
senatordave1:


You don't assume sir.we follow the law and this is why lp And pdp loses.send to inec server for not irev

Stop confusing yourself

You don't understand server and portal.

Did you understand domain and subdomain

Do you understand storage allocation

Do your understand server resources.

This are what you should know now.

BVAS can be used to access about 4 types of servers by INEC using different application on tbe BVAS.

Each application have its seperate root directory on tbe server.

There is cloud server which is why all INEC BVAS can upload and function from anywhere.

There is physical system for the offline server. Where testing is done and all necessary coding before uploading the writti code to form what the viewr see on the website.

So please get more information is that clear
Politics / Re: Peter Obi Vs Tinubu: 20th June 2023 Live Court Updates by engineerboat(m): 11:20pm On Jun 21, 2023
senatordave1:


Are you aware that inec has csvsr or so which is the primary election storage and not irev? Irev is just for public viewership!

Primary storage for voters registrations which also have a sub-domain for voters accreditation because it the baseline.

However IREV is having its own server and storage partitions from the entire server.
Politics / Re: Peter Obi Vs Tinubu: 20th June 2023 Live Court Updates by engineerboat(m): 11:17pm On Jun 21, 2023
senatordave1:


Are you aware that inec has csvsr or so which is the primary election storage and not irev? Irev is just for public viewership!


You know why I said this is not your field

CVR is voters registration server for INEC

You can view your own Voter card information on the csvr portal.

Senatordave01 INEC HAVE Different platforms and portal for different purposes.

So allow All petitioner to go with whatever's suite them don't bring in wbat You don't have grip information on.

What concerns csvr with IREV when they serve different purposes

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Politics / Re: Peter Obi Vs Tinubu: 20th June 2023 Live Court Updates by engineerboat(m): 10:26pm On Jun 20, 2023
senatordave1:


The electoral act states that they be sent to inec server and not irev


Where does IREV get it's data

Senatordave01 this is beyond your scope
Politics / Re: Peter Obi Vs Tinubu: 20th June 2023 Live Court Updates by engineerboat(m): 10:25pm On Jun 20, 2023
senatordave1:


The electoral act states that they be sent to inec server and not irev


Senatordave01 this is not your field,


But let me ask you

1. What is server

2. What is IREV

3. what is could storage

4. How many server does INEC have and how do they link together
Politics / Re: Peter Obi Vs Tinubu: 20th June 2023 Live Court Updates by engineerboat(m): 9:03pm On Jun 20, 2023
senatordave1:


Her report is not conclusive abd cannot be granted value


It's left for the panel to do that, however she has made her point while the presiding officer witnesses for PDP state their own also with their IT witness


So let the panel decide

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Politics / Re: Peter Obi Vs Tinubu: 20th June 2023 Live Court Updates by engineerboat(m): 9:02pm On Jun 20, 2023
senatordave1:


It is left for lp to conclusively prove so and not make assertions

Absolutely NO

Both PDP and LP have make their point and witnesses statement

It will interest you to know that as at this night 2023 Presidential election result uploading is yet to complete

Polling units
176846

Submitted results
167443

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Politics / Re: Peter Obi Vs Tinubu: 20th June 2023 Live Court Updates by engineerboat(m): 8:41pm On Jun 20, 2023
senatordave1:


She is not the maker of the document and therefore not competent to talk


It is left to INEC to come and prove her wrong.

So we wait for INEC to start their defense

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Politics / Re: Peter Obi Vs Tinubu: 20th June 2023 Live Court Updates by engineerboat(m): 8:40pm On Jun 20, 2023
senatordave1:


And the glitch could have happened internelly from inec local network.again,what she has is general report and not specific

As an IT expert what happened on that day is never a glitches but a deliberate act and it was targeted for a purpose and shift the blame on Technical glitch.

The Presidential election sumition link was redirected at no destinations but to error about AWS server error to cover up.

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Politics / Re: Peter Obi Vs Tinubu: 20th June 2023 Live Court Updates by engineerboat(m): 8:36pm On Jun 20, 2023
senatordave1:


They haven't proven anything.she admitted that the glitch could have happened locally on inec end without AWS knowing


She never said they

All they were trying to do is to implicate her to say external intruder can compromise INEC password to AWS from outside which she dodged

So she never said what you just mentioned above

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Politics / Re: Peter Obi Vs Tinubu: 20th June 2023 Live Court Updates by engineerboat(m): 8:33pm On Jun 20, 2023
seanfer:


Bro it makes a lot of difference... They are at advantage, because they have time to change or add more to their questions after listening to the petitioners cross-examination, they will know how intelligent or jittery the witness is and how to ambush the witness psychologically, and that is an added advantage ... I know what I'm talking about and any lawyer in this place will align with my position.....


It would have been better if the petitioner also shift to the other day and cross examine the witness together same day.

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Politics / Re: Why Amazon Should Sue INEC And Demand Billions Of Dollars In Damages. by engineerboat(m): 8:18am On Jun 20, 2023
N3TRAL:


WAEC, NYSC etc are the organisations that issue the certification. They are legally vested with the responsibility of issuing certificates just like INEC collate results, announce them and issue certificates of return.

Neither WAEC nor NYSC are third parties. WAEC and NYSC have websites with data of millions stored in the servers of web hosting service providers.

They're are instances where WAEC or NYSC hold that they do not have the record of candidates in their custody. The candidate whose record is not found cannot approach the third party hosting service to prove that their record is in WAEC'S or NYSC'S servers.
According to the Evidence Act, only WAEC or NYSC or INEC records is valid evidence.

The evidence of the web hosting service provider here would only have nuisance value for social media accolades and nothing else.

Bringing Amazon to the case is of no value than bragging rights.

1. Amazon where subpoena

2. INEC website error report that day clearly implicates Amazon because the website refuse to open with error report at the blame door of Amazon

Hence Amazon need to clear the air on what happened.

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