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Depilot:
You may not see it or understand it at this time, but this news is worse than our 419 image. If we are not careful this could directly and indirectly affect everyone of us (both in Nigeria and outside Nigeria).

This is an image we definitely do not want and we must all stand up and denounce this behaviour.
We must let the world know that Nigerians are great peaceful people, who do not believe in doing evil things to other countries.

Believe it or not, America has been nothing but an incredible country to Nigeria and Nigerians.

axeman85:
what he is saying is that we should bring tribe into this issue or matter. and that he is nigerian.

nuzo:
If you really read the article, you will find out that the writer has already proffered solutions to our problem. However, one of them is not waiting for some god to come down and do miracles.

On the other hand, nigerians are not and have never been lazy.

nuzo:
Unless wisdom has been redefined; I have nothing to debate with you. All you did was to define cowardice, hypocrisy, sycophancy and selfishness. Any wonder why the writer plainly stated that nigerians, especially the younger ones are Idiots.

Have a good day.

nuzo:
If this is all you understand as nigerians being wise, then am afraid to say that the writer of this article takes home the trophy.

nuzo:
Hmm? How?
Define wisdom please?

Enquirer:
idiots? don't think so. we are too wise. that's the problem.

jabbok:
@ poster,

If it is a crime for our politicians to loot, plunder and kill, how can it be less so for us to do the same? Let us show some civility and find a solution which will be enduring. e go better !

Ndipe:
Wrong, wrong, wrong concept, please dont tell us that you support this kidnapping going on in Nigeria.

texazzpete:
I will pay N1000000 to anyone who kills the original poster, enziga.
There are too many fools in the world. I'll gladly pay the sum to rid nigeria of this retard.

courage89:
@ Poster,

I agree up to some extent with your radical treatment to modify our political / corrupt spree environment. However instead of killing their children, why not start with them? Let the revolution start with the finger that commits the corrupt practice so that they would not take other innocent lives along with them.

tunku:
Yes, kill them all and let God sort them out. Unfortunately who would do this without hate in their heart? Japan had something similar under the shogunate where the families of vassal lords were held captive in the capitol city by the shogun. Why can't the people who didn't "select" this jokers hold their families hostage at the end of an AK? Sure you feed them, let them go about their business(under close scrutiny), and never let them leave the state or area of representation as long as that family member is "servin, ", who are we kidding, LORDING it over the people. There is a difference between this and kidnapping them for ransom. I am sure that this system would make these asses accountable to the people.But then again this bastards aren't above sacrificing anyone, not even their own kids, for power. If you live or have lived in Nigeria and this is the most disgusting idea to ever furrow your brow in disgust then you my friends are detached from reality.

Litmus:
There isn't an idea more fanciful than the notion you can progress an African nation, in this current Media Age, through the barrel of a gun.

In my estimation, Nigerians are the freest people in the world today and probably turning out to be the laziest and moaniest. The state and police dose not watch Nigerians or seem to care what they do. Television ownership  has not reached the stage of wide ownership were it can effectively act as  an organ of state control over the lives of the citizens  as it does in Britain and many western democracies. Nigerians do not pay taxes to any conventional extent.  You want material to build something, just go to the local bridge and tear off a railing, want to drive a car, just learn to steer the car straight and wala! You’re a driver. Power is unreliable but many still get what little there is free of charge. People can just erect a shed wherever they like and start trading. No one hurls them up before the public prosecutor for miscellaneous offences such as driving polluting vehicles, urinating or spiting on the road. People are not taxed for ownership of land. In England you are taxed for everything, I have even seen fresh air soled in bottles.  When Americans talk of free government, essentially they mean what you have in Nigeria. They want government to stay out of their lives – sure, take care of the infrastructure, but let me get on with it. If the law cant or want take care of criminality I want the right to bare arms so I can do it myself.  I over simplify but that is the picture.

Nigerians in many instances live in the equivalent of a frontiers environment and in the history of the world; people traditionally create something from nothing,informed by nothing more than imagination,  strength of their character, through sweat and through tears in just such environments. Ordinary Nigerians ought to be encouraged to do what they used to do, which is work hard and be imaginative in order to attain a reasonable, good or excellent standard of life and not encouraged to seek quick fixes through extortion and the barrel of a gun. The history of Africa is one big lesson about the futility of armed struggle. I remember a time when Nigerians often won prizes for furniture making in Italy. You want a tricycle go round to your local woodworker and he’d knock you up one out of wood. Nigerians are the best in arts and craft in Africa .Even in the past the nations that today make up Nigeria produced the most sophisticated artwork in all of Africa. Where are the people who once would have spotted the markets? For example, people who would have created tennis academies in order to exploit the major money to be made from starlets just as John Fashionu tried to do with football academy trials. Where are those people who would once have developed Kai-kai into a marketable brand on the international market? Where are the grape growers to crate a Nigerian wine? Where has all that tradition of hard work, innovation and thrift gone? I recon it has been dashed on the rock of lies that we, who have made it abroad, heap in front of them. We fool them and we fool ourselves in prescribing an idealised West lifestyle portrayed in films and adverts for all Nigerians when in reality the West have not achieved that universal standard for all citizens. If Nigerians back home worked half as hard as we have to work abroad they would gain all those material things that they seem to think is the alpha and omega of life.  
 
As an aside, let me tell the originator of this thread something that he or she either may not know, because he/she is young, not actually Nigerian or embittered by fool notions about what it means to be developed.  Nigeria has reached a stage were it can be said to poses a national character.  I do not believe that Nigerians have yet defined that character; foreigners whose mischiefs are informed often by racial prejudice have only prescribed it for us. Thus, we are thieves and fraudsters accordingly.  Nevertheless, Nigeria does have a character - meaning the people who make up the geographic area, because of proximities and cross-cultural contact – do share a number of values. I cannot kill what it is with one phrase but that character has all of the following in it.  Nigerians are not envious people. Nigerians respect and aspire to traditional African values. Nigerians are hard working. Nigerians value education. Nigerians value respect very highly. Nigerians have an expansive social life.   I know that some will argue that other African share some of the things I mentioned, which is why, if forced to identify characteristics I believe exclusive to Nigerians, I would say Ambitiousness, Kindness and abhorrence to Jealousy. This is why so far the reaction to the proposal of the thread has met with horror.



The above is my experience as a Nigerian I don’t care what anyone says in contradiction or sites as an example to our contrariness.  

In the meantime, the thread really should be removed for inciting violence and murder. I believe that if the incitement had been made in reference to white people, the thread would been removed in no time.

snwanduv:
@Enziga

I have heard people say for Nigeria to be helped, everyone over 40 years old should be killed. I think that and your suggestion is too drastic as usual. Maybe killing only the corrupt leaders themselves. Yea you are saying they have killed families and so on. But you dont sink to the level of your oponent because at the end of the day there will be no way to tell the difference between you and them.

Remember

[size=8pt]GOD IS NOT MOCKED[/size]

lee007:
I have read this tread with keen intrest, i agree disagree with the poster to some extent while i also agree with him a little. At this stage of our nationhood, we need more than fancy theories to get our nation out of the woods. If you have ever being near or around where this so called rich kids are squandering our money whether here in nigeria or abroad, you will feel like getting a AK-47 and blasting them to hell!
However some of them are just benefciaries of ill gotten wealth without even knowing the effect of such on the generality of Nigerians and hence to some extent are innocent.

We need revolution in this country and in my opinion after Ten years of uninterupted stealing some guys have to leave the stage albirt forcefully.

You can disagree with me!

vanitty:
So your impeccable logic is use a crime to solve a crime?
Don’t be naïve all these kidnappers are not doing so for a better Nigeria, what majority of them care for is the ransom, in fact they are corrupting the system more. Nigeria is already on the 10 countries most likely to be kidnapped list. Don’t let make it worse.

vanitty:
If you were bothered to search before your very ridiculous topic, u will see reasonable educative post on this very subject “how can we move Nigeria forward” on many topics made by sound-minded, intelligent people on nairaland.

vanitty:
Gain some understanding and actually come up with good plausible ways to help Nigeria move forward.
Very inhumane to start a killing/kidnapping spree

biina:
@enziga
and when did the revolution happen in India, Singapore, Malaysia or South Korea?

Anybody that narrates with relish the kidnapping and rape of another is sick. You fit the description.

tpiah:
I guess you're unaware France restored the monarchy _{and slavery} after the revolution? Dont just parrot empty facts people have been throwing at you.

America had a revolution- yet still works hand in hand with Britain three to four hundred years later.

Britain had an[b] Industrial[/b] revolution- one of the reasons why you're a sociopath roaming free today.

Before then-King Charles was killed, yet his descendants were still restored to the throne.

U ARE VERY DUMB O. sO AFTER the bloodshed who says we can't work with other countries? how exactly does killin 20 families stop nigeria as a country from workin with other countries? Where do they raise dumb ppl like u?





If your forefathers also committed crimes against others, then shouldnt their victims demand their pound of flesh from you?



[size=16pt]God rebuke you and God punish devil!!![/size]

if you're speaking on behalf on the "freedom fighters" or whatever other "cause" you're hiding your bloodlust under, then you have free will. However, [size=14pt]GOD IS NOT MOCKED.[/size]

tpiah:
so how exactly are you yourself any different from what you condemn?

Show me[b] ONE[/b] country in this world where no one has any story similar to what you're saying here and I'll show you that country is NOT in this solar system.

I just hate it when people hide under various excuses and complaints in an attempt to justify their bloodlust. So sick!!!!!! You need help if any is available for you!

You are definitely sick and even sicker to openly broadcast your sick mind in this manner. I wouldnt be surprised if you're one of those sociopaths used to kidnap people for voodoo rituals! A leopard cant change its spots!

tpiah:
if you're not scared to die then I've suggested some ways you can show your "bravery". Otherwise you're a coward of the lowest order.

If the politicians with all their wickedness, didnt kidnap and murder you, then that speaks volumes. If they were really wicked or even just careful, they would track you down for this thread and deal with you. I'm quite sure that would be your own reaction if GOD FORBID you were them.

What i disagree with is the fact that people like you, and any of your disciples, are roaming around freely with no control.

This is why every other citizen in the western world, has a gun.

tpiah:
If your life sucks too much to bear, you can check into the nearest mental facility. Or head for Switzerland where they allow you to die by your own choice.

God is not mocked, and you'll surely reap the consequences of your evil mind and sick,evil ways.

You speak for no one besides your master satan, so dont come in here pretending you're speaking for some masses, unless those masses are your coworkers in hell!

If the thing pain you pass, head for Somalia or Zimbabwe and go kidnap the politican's children so the people there can quickly put you out of your misery.  Equatorial Guinea can also help you out!

blacksta:
@poster


I agree with u to some extent but no killing. Their must be a non violent way of seizing power or effecting change in Nigeria. I think Nigerians should understudy the people of Thailand.

biina:
@enziga
if you feel we need bloodshed to cure Nigeria, I will gladly send you to the hereafter.

biina:
I couldn't think of a better phrase so:
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the funny thing about you all calling me sick is that the very same politicians make the same decisions everyday without battin an eyelid. They give out orders that certain people be killed, and do not take into account the families of the victims. U realise that as long as people like us remain "pussies" these politicians will always ride roughshod over us? Please the time has come to let of of the dumb belief that one can change naija without a revolution or bloodshed. People must meet their makers before naija ever steps into the right direction.

tpiah:
[size=14pt]LIKE I SAID, YOU ARE SICK AND SO IS ANYONE WHO AGREES WITH YOU.[/size]

You've been defeated time and time again and will continue to be defeated forever.

God is not mocked!!!!!!!