olabode89:
even championship team dey get 17 shots against us. Bald fraud 101.

Where did you see 17 shots?

lmao

Leyqute:


By positions, I mean players, coaches, medical team, physios, data analytics team, facilities, player recruitment and so on.

Abi how did Madrid scout all those gems and maintain their status?

Okay I get what you mean

Leyqute:


If Ronaldo didn’t talk he would be dragged? Abi it would heap pressure on ETH, especially if he didn’t do well? The situation was already bad for ETH, Ronaldo’s theatrics only made it worse.

Hahaha please! Ronaldo will be dragged and trolled for getting 1 minutes game time

Leyqute:


I think Ronaldo should’ve dealt with the issue differently. Leave the storming off to the Antonys and co. Take your leave without any bad blood. ETH would be found out sooner or later if he’s incompetent. Ronaldo is already a legend and playing under ETH won’t make him any less so.

Then after the whole issue is over he can come on any program and talk about it. Like Schweinsteiger did. I tell you, he’d have surrounded himself with more light and ETH would have had the short end of the stick.

I’m a Ronaldo fan but I won’t say he did the right thing in some situations when I don’t think so.

Ronaldo will still be dragged by many until those that didn't initially see it that way will begin to see it because of the person he is, his status and football rivalry. His only option would have been to keep quiet and take all the insults, but that won't stop anything because he will still be trolled, dragged, blamed, and insulted.

Leyqute:


It’s only reserved for Ronaldo and his fan boys.

I see where the problem is

Leyqute:


It kills your credibility.



So, you believe all my talks are about ETH vs Ronaldo? SMH.

The problem is you examine things in isolation of all other factors.

I’m not anti Ronaldo. Neither am I pro-ETH.

ETH is wrong for asking CR7 to warm up 2 mins to the end. Ronaldo is also wrong for walking out on the club. Two wrong things can exist simultaneously.

My point is the club should be united on all fronts and have the best in most, if not all positions and roles. Only then will we play well and win more- not by doing things in isolation.

We don't have to have the best in most positions to play well, but we need to have the best in most positions to dominate the league and Europe. What we're crying for is to at least play well first.

Both were wrong I agree. Where I draw the line is when we want to blame other events on that event. The funny thing is you even agree with most of the things Ronaldo said. Do you think he should have waited till he left the club before saying anything or he shouldn't even have said anything?

Leyqute:


It kills your credibility.

Is this credibility reserved for only coaches or players inclusive?

We score 1 and nobody even celebrated it. This is the level of sadness ETH has brought to this club. Well some people will prefer to blame it on Ronaldo walking out

Leyqute:


Bbut you just agreed a minute ago that it hurt his teammates too. Suddenly you’re sarcastic about that same thing . When things start going wrong for a new coach people like you will be the first one to turn on him.

What's wrong with that? Are we allowed to only turn on players or we just prefer to turn on the infrastructure and management?

Leyqute:


The unnecessary attention creates more pressure which piles on to the ones they’re already experiencing. I know you won’t get it.

LOL of course I get it. We're still suffering the effect today. Hopefully by next season, we would have gotten over the pressure Ronaldo created so we can face the pressure Scamcho created

Leyqute:


Which kain awawi be this?

If you don’t like how coach treated you, take it out on the coach. Speak to the authorities about your concerns and then leave in peace.

Abi you think all the drama his actions attracted didn’t hurt his teammates too?

Of course it hurt the teammates too. That's why when scamcho was sent packing too, his teammates cut off from him and didn't have anything to do with him online and offline.

Leyqute:


He walked out of the stadium with his teammates still on the pitch and fans who spent their hard earned money to come and watch the club play. He didn’t walk out on ETH alone, he did that to the whole club.

You guys do really think through your pigeon-holes.

He walked out of the disrespect. You don't stay where you're not needed or appreciated if you have paid your dues. If you claim he walked out on the teammates and fans, do you agree the teammates and fans disrespected him?

Leyqute:


Which teammate did I involve?

But you have repeatedly said he walked out on his teammates.

Leyqute:


We turned on Ronaldo or Ronaldo turned on the club by walking out during matches and creating unnecessary drama and pressure because he wasn’t allowed to play main man character?

It’s as if you people only look at things from one angle. I won’t be surprised if the only reason for your emotional outbursts is because of your perceived misgivings about the bad blood between him and the coaching staff.

Even Roy Keane had issues with the coaching staff. He never walked out on his teammates.

This was between ETH and Ronaldo. Don't involve any teammates.

Leyqute:


Different teams, different roles, different team mates, different coach, different mentality, different dressing room and environment.

But by all means, go with “they are able to train better with modern facilities in their national teams”

I thought the archaic training facility was the problem?

TrebleChamp:
Why are they decent in their position for national team, but not United under Ten Bald?

They are able to train better with modern facilities in their national teams

Griffon:


Without conceding, you earn a chance to win in the extras, you still get a chance with the pens.

Concede and drop all these hopes.

You don't even want to score again?

Do players have problem with taking one time shot these days?

lekkie073:
Oga, manutd is in for a long hiatus. It may not take decades but I doubt if any magic will occur that will see us winning the epl in the next five years. If we like make we dey change managers every month, the situation will only get worse.

mr leke we just want to see some sort of progress o. Whether its in our corner kicks, free kick, defending, attacking, control, anything. Let's just see some progress. We will talk about winning the epl when we have gotten some things right

patrickmuf:
I don laugh tire. Una dey para for here...Bin Laden is to be hanged but if you think not, try to stop us and find out...

Bin Laden must go...

We apparently have the worst structure in the world, that's why any team we play against will become like prime Barca

Jodera:

Eph say dem no deh bring coach into a functional team, na only when e deh dysfunctional.

When dysfunctional vacancy dey, I go alert you

Bottlers are classified as dysfunctional if you ask anyone

lekkie073:
unfortunately yes. It's not easy to inherit a dysfunctional team.

If the team was a functional team, he won't be hired. He was hired to fix it. He started by targeting the biggest ego in the room, heaven didn't fall. He was backed. But apparently he can't handle the sissies and ninnies remaining in the team

lekkie073:
if the club should sack the manager today, I will not bat an eyelid. That is because I am not not at h tree helms. However, if I was at the helms, I would let them know that sacking managers is not the solution. The manager position should be more stable than the players. This is my opinion, not holy writ.

You know the manager has to earn that stability yeah? There is no club in the world where that is the default behavior. If half of the team is not playing as you want them to or something close, you have already failed as a manager. This does not apply to football alone

lekkie073:
the manager will blame the players for his problems.
The club hierarchy will blame the manager for their problems.
The fans should blame........ Who?

Everyone that needs to be blamed. I'm sure you have seen, heard and read about fans criticizing players, the manager and this structure. But you draw the line at fans criticizing the manager

lekkie073:
yes, I belong to apc. In fact I am an SA to a local government chairman

I believe you. We are not allowed to talk about the failures of the government

lekkie073:
the situation is beyond terrible. But there is little you and I can do to remedy the situation.

That's why we are calling out those who can do something about it. Its just like saying we should not talk about the terrible situation in this country because there is little we can do to remedy the situation. Do you belong to APC?

Poor manager. Very helpless and timid. The club didn't give him any player and the players have refused to play as a team. But he won the carling cup last season, so the vision is clear. But if its not, blame the structure and those at the helm

maik99:


You refer to Arteta and Klopp but you must forget that with those, the project was clear from day one. Arteta won an FA cup in his first season playing exactly the way he plays now. It was not perfect but you could see the vision.
The absolute lack of direction is my problem with ten hag. And no amount of "building" should mean that we have almost zero good games in an entire season and be dragging stats with Luton and Sheffield

To be fair we had one good half against Villa where we came back from 2 goals

lekkie073:
the two....

Maybe you should try to separate both first and you will get a clearer picture of the terrible situation we are in

lekkie073:
and how did Klopp fare in his early seasons?

Are you referring to the result or how they played?

MRTA7:


My only issue with this is that the players he has brought in for lots of money are barely any better.

Let's blame the structure