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Christianity Etc › My Encounter With Dr. Chris Oyakhilome- Bishop Elomobor by eplanning(op): 10:35pm On May 01, 2016

Bishop Godwin Elomobor is the presiding Bishop of The New Generation Bible Church in Kano. He is, in fact, rumored to be the next PFN President. The Bishop was recently invited by Pastor Chris Oyakhilome to South Africa for a 2 – week conference with other pastors from different parts of the world. He said that he was linked up by Rev. Tom Amiekhenan and Pastor Dee both pastors in Christ Embassy after being told that he was one person Pastor Chris highly esteems.

“Pastor Chris is not aware of this write-up. He never asked me to do this or anything. It is purely my decision,” he clarified. Bishop Elomobor happened to be ordained by the Late Archbishop Benson Idahosa who mentored Pastor Chris Oyakhilome, took us through his interesting experience writing: “My wife and I arrived Joburg on March 12 and spent 2 weeks. I lack the vocabulary to describe our experience.

He started by applauding the hospitality and protocol which him and his wife were treated to. He wrote:“I have never seen anything like that in my life even though I am a dual citizen of Nigeria and America. Two white men and two beautiful ladies were accommodated in the 5-star hotel just to wait on Mama and I. They over pampered us, made us to feel at home and important. Pastor Chris is excellence and protocol personified. A beautiful jeep was reserved purely for us.”

On Pastor Chris’ teachings he wrote:The teachings were very simple and yet profound. Dr Chris challenged me to pray and study more. He is a great Bible scholar, one of the best I’ve ever met.

Bishop Elomobor also mentioned how honored he felt after Pastor Chris gave him the privilege of addressing 5,000 pastors from over 150 countries. He said it was like a dream. He was also invited to anoint some pastors alongside Pastor Chris and other highly placed men of God. According to Bishop Elomobor, he had to move away from Pastor Chris because the anointing around him was too much to behold. He further narrated how many he saw firsthand a mighty earthquake of miracles just like Paul did in Jerusalem.

Bishop Elomobor also expressed his admiration for Pastor Chris’ love, humility, and generosity.He concluded the captivating yet inspiring piece writing that although he knew no one was perfect, he could testify that Pastor Chris has a perfect heart.
http://www.davinadiaries.com/my-wonderful-encounter-with-pastor-chris-oyakhilome-bishop-elomobor/

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Christianity Etc › Re: In Genesis 1: 26, God Was Talking To Someone, Do You Know The Person ? by eplanning: 11:36pm On Apr 30, 2016

All these copy and paste Bible scholars on NL sef. grin

See how they always end up confused.

Sit under anointed teaching ministers/ ministries and you will not go into error.

Christianity Etc › Re: In Genesis 1: 26, God Was Talking To Someone, Do You Know The Person ? by eplanning: 11:11pm On Apr 30, 2016

goodnews201668:
You are the confused person here, you agreed that Christ wasn't raised in flesh yet your other posts have shown you to be confused!
Stop limping stand on what you believe.
was Jesus resurrected as a spirit or not? that's the issue, stop running up and down saying he was resurrected with a glorified body and denying it again.
So you are saying he was raised in a physical body but a glorified one? Let's know where you stand.

A mad man is on the loose. You do not deserve a response from me. Abeg NEXT!

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Christianity Etc › Re: In Genesis 1: 26, God Was Talking To Someone, Do You Know The Person ? by eplanning: 10:57pm On Apr 30, 2016

goodnews201668:
Which scripture told you Christ was resurrected in spirit and body?

He was made alive in spirit and it's not necessary for him to take his former physical body after resurrection.

He sacrificed it according to John 6:51King James Version (KJV)

51 I am the living bread which came down from heaven: if any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever: and the bread that I will give is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world.

So doesn't need his former corruptible body as you are trying to make us understand.

Your case is very pathetic. Unknown to you, you are questioning your very own salvation by denying the resurrection. It is not resurrection if His body was not raised.

No one said he was taking up His former corruptible body. Or are you looking for an escape route? It was a glorified body. It was sown corruptible and raised incorruptible.

1Co 15:42-44
42 So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption:43 It is sown in dishonour; it is raised in glory:it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power:
44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.

goodnews201668:
It has been sacrificed taking it back means his death would worthless.

You see your life?
Jn 2:19-21
19 Jesus answered them, "Destroy this temple, and I will raise it again in three days."
20 They replied, "It has taken forty-six years to build this temple, and you are going to raise it in three days?"
21 But the temple he had spoken of was his body.
22 After he was raised from the dead, his disciples recalled what he had said. Then they believed the scripture and the words that Jesus had spoken.

Does a spirit have flesh and bones?

Luk 24:36-39
Jesus Appears to His Disciples
36 As they were talking about these things, Jesus himself stood among them, and said to them, “Peace to you!” 37 But they were startled and frightened and thought they saw a spirit. 38 And he said to them, “Why are you troubled, and why do doubts arise in your hearts? 39 See my hands and my feet, that it is I myself. Touch me, and see. For a spirit does not have flesh and bones as you see that I have.”

If after reading this you come here with another silly post, then we can safely conclude that you are either a cultist or one who needs to see a psychiatrist.

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Christianity Etc › Re: In Genesis 1: 26, God Was Talking To Someone, Do You Know The Person ? by eplanning: 8:29pm On Apr 30, 2016

goodnews201668:
So doesn't need his former corruptible body as you are trying to make us understand.
it has been sacrificed taking it back means his death would worthless.

Did I tell you He was raised with His former corruptible body or with a glorified (incorruptible) body? See yourself? You are confused already.
Or are you trying to escape?

You said he wasn't raised with his body shikina.

By the way, I did not ask you to quote more irrelevant scriptures. Kindly explain Psalm 16:10 and Acts 2:31.

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Christianity Etc › Re: In Genesis 1: 26, God Was Talking To Someone, Do You Know The Person ? by eplanning: 2:54pm On Apr 30, 2016

goodnews201668:
You claim to be a Bible student yet you say Jesus resurrected with his physical body and was not made alive in spirit as the Bible said, that's childish!
Read 1Co 15:35-38. And see what that place talks about resurrection, our flesh is compared to seed which when sowed germinate or sprout! if sown in corruption it will resurrect or sprout as it were to incorruption!

Again Colossians 1:8 called Jesus the firstborn from the dead! Does it mean Christ was the first to be resurrected? there has been accounts of resurrections in the Bible even before Jesus died and was resurrected.
It means Jesus is the first to be resurrected by God himself and the first to be resurrected in the spirit!

The Bible's view of resurrection is different from yours ooo.

Now the Bible said he was not allowed to see corruption.
Act 2:31
31 He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left in hell, neither his flesh did see corruption.

He was resurrected before his physical body or flesh rot away!

John 6:51King James Version (KJV)

51 I am the living bread which came down from heaven: if any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever: and the bread that I will give is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world.
(If he was resurrected in the flesh that means he took the sacrifice or flesh back, and his death would have been meaningless)!

Show me where I said that Jesus was not made alive in the Spirit? It is not pisdible for the body to be raised without the Spirit. I said the body cannot be raised without the spirit. It is not possible for the body to be revived or rejuvenated without such rejuvenation beginnng from the spirit.

So this discussion you are trying to raise in uncalled for. Or are you looking for an escape route from your obvious confusions?

Why not start by explaing the scriptures that I shared with you to prove that His body was also raised and that He wasn't just raised in spirit as you claim?

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Christianity Etc › Re: In Genesis 1: 26, God Was Talking To Someone, Do You Know The Person ? by eplanning: 2:35pm On Apr 30, 2016*

analice107:
eep thee in the way and to bring you to the prepared place.
Beware of him and obey his voice, provoke him not got he will not pardon your transgressions.

Boy, Angel of His Presence is Angel Gabriel.
Luke 1:19 And the Angel speaking with him said, I am Gabriel, that Stands in the presence of God.
Have you noticed that anytime an Angel delivers a message, he does not say, Thus says the LORD, He his used the personal pronoun 'I'. right there, through present before you, but in the spirit realm he is standing before God and God using his mouth to speak to you.
Bros, Angel of His presence is not Jesus.

I never called Him Jesus. And He is definitely not Gabriel. Did Isaiah 63:9-10 mention Gabriel? Did Exodus 24:21 mention Gabriel? Is Gabriel the only angel that stands in the presence of God?

Isaiah 63:9-10 didn't say AN Angel of His presence but THE Angel of His presence.

Okay Gabriel saved them and redeemed them right? Gabriel fought against them? Where did that happen in scripture?
Gabriel was afflicted with them right?

The Holy Spirit is clearly mentioned as the subject of the passage (Isaiah 63:9-10) but you choose to ignore that fact.

I have not started quizzing you yet. Just trying to get you to settle down. Because you will prove this your Gabriel theory to me.

Look, there is a difference between "standing in" and being a carrier or messenger of that presence.

If you have not studied a subject, say so and be ready to learn , rather than searching the web for the opinion you like the most and pasting it here.

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Christianity Etc › Re: In Genesis 1: 26, God Was Talking To Someone, Do You Know The Person ? by eplanning: 9:28am On Apr 30, 2016

analice107:
You see, we are dealing with scriptures. Bring up a scripture referring to the Holy Spirit as The Angel of His presence.

Isa 63:9-10
9 In all their affliction he was afflicted,
and the angel of his presence saved them:
in his love and in his pity he redeemed them;
and he bare them, and carried them all the days of old.
10 But they rebelled, and vexed his holy Spirit:
therefore he was turned to be their enemy, and he fought against them.
(KJV)

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Christianity Etc › Re: In Genesis 1: 26, God Was Talking To Someone, Do You Know The Person ? by eplanning: 9:10am On Apr 30, 2016

analice107:
Listen, am a student of the scriptures and I will learn till I die, but not from someone who has a mindset already. JW can't teach me the Bible. No sir. You give yourself so much credit.
Hmm. You call the scriptures I quoted to you irrelevant, yet you want to teach me. Lol.
OK Apostle Paul, go ahead and teach what I don't know.

Ha. This is new. The Holy Spirit is an Angel? I never head this. Seriously?

The Holy Spirit is not AN Angel but THE Angel of His presence.

By the way, i am not JW. They are false teachers.

Christianity Etc › Re: In Genesis 1: 26, God Was Talking To Someone, Do You Know The Person ? by eplanning: 8:41am On Apr 30, 2016

analice107:
Pls JW keep your Watchtower blindfolds on but don't come here to tell me what you yourself don't know.
The Angel of his presence is Jesus only in JW dear.
Hebrews 1:5-8 For to which of the angels did [God] ever say, You are My Son, today I have begotten you?

And again, I will be to Him a Father, and He will be to Me a Son?

Moreover, when He brings the firstborn Son again into the habitable world, He says, Let all the angels of God worship Him.

Referring to the angels He says, [God] Who makes His angels winds and His ministering servants flames of fire;

But as to the Son, He says to Him, Your throne, O God, is forever and ever (to the ages of the ages), and the scepter of Your kingdom is a scepter of absolute righteousness (of justice and straightforwardness).

Pls tell me how many times any Angel has accepted worship from men? Does the Angel of his presence Accepts worship?

We see in Rev. 22:9 the same Angel of his presence saying to Apostle John " See that you do it not, for I am a fellow servant, and of thy Brethren the prophets and of them which keep the saying of this book: Worship God.

The" Man" (Joshua did not call him Angel) accepted worship just like Jesus Christ of Nazareth received worship from everyone who worshipped Him. Exactly with Abraham. The Bible said the LORD appeared to Abraham in the plains of Mamre, Abraham was by his tent, when he saw the three 'Men' he ran and bowed himself to the ground.

Man, any where you see man worshipping a supernatural being, it's definitely not an Angel.

Hebrews 1:6,8 Moreover, when He brings the firstborn Son again into the habitable world, He says, (Let all the angels of God worship Him) . (But as to the Son, He says to Him, Your throne, O God), is forever and ever (to the ages of the ages), and the scepter of Your kingdom is a scepter of absolute righteousness (of justice and straightforwardness).

Hebrews 1:13-14 (Besides, to which of the angels has He ever said, Sit at My right hand [associated with Me in My royal dignity] till I make your enemies a stool for your feet? Are not the angels all ministering spirits (servants) sent out in the service [of God for the assistance] of those who are to inherit salvation?

Have you seen Palms 110 being reiterated here?
I didn't say that 110 was referring to a past event. It was indeed a prophecy about Jesus Christ who was to be manifested in flesh later.
OGA at what point did other people started bearing the name JESUS? was it before or after Christ? Have you forgotten that that name was given to Joseph by an Angel, just like John's?
As a matter of Fact the Angel gave the meaning of the name Jesus to reflect why He was on earth.
People started bearing Jesus after Jesus had come and gone. Although, Joshua also means the same thing as Jesus but Jesus' name was a mission statement.

JW, I don't have time for Scriptures twisters. Pls stay off my mention.

Do not quote irrelevant scriptures for me because I can teach you what you do not know from them.
That is how you do until you get entangled in your own confusion.

NOT EVERY ANGEL IS THE ANGEL OF HIS PRESENCE.

Angels never accept worship but the Angel of His presence (The Holy Spirit) does.

Now humbly ask and you shall be taught many things which you do not know.

analice107:
Although, Joshua also means the same thing as Jesus but Jesus' name was a mission statement.

And you still think you've made a point? SMH

Christianity Etc › Re: In Genesis 1: 26, God Was Talking To Someone, Do You Know The Person ? by eplanning: 8:40am On Apr 30, 2016

Christianity Etc › Re: In Genesis 1: 26, God Was Talking To Someone, Do You Know The Person ? by eplanning: 8:37am On Apr 30, 2016

Christianity Etc › Re: In Genesis 1: 26, God Was Talking To Someone, Do You Know The Person ? by eplanning: 8:12am On Apr 30, 2016

goodnews201668:
If he was resurrected in flesh will he still be a spirit? Take note of the fact that the Bible said he was put to death in the flesh and made alive in the spirit.
Well it simply shows you doesn't believe portions of the Bible that said Jesus was resurrected as a spirit.

When the Bible said God was manifest in the flesh, does it mean God has to personally walk the earth? No, Jesus said anybody that has seen him has also seen the father!
He represented his father.

You cannot pick one portion of scripture and make a doctrine of it without examining it side by side with others and in line with truth.

Read my last post again and examine those scriptures.

Do you know the meaning of the word: glory or glorified ?
Everything that was human or subject to corruption is revived - glorified.
Jesus was glorified and we shall be glorified with him at the trumpet sound. That is the eternal hope of the christian- The hope of glory. Besides this, your faith is useless.

Psa 16:10
10 For thou wilt not leave my soul in hell;
neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.

Act 2:31
31 He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left in hell, neither his flesh did see corruption.

YOU ARE SPEAKING LIES.

Christianity Etc › Re: In Genesis 1: 26, God Was Talking To Someone, Do You Know The Person ? by eplanning: 7:37am On Apr 30, 2016*

goodnews201668:
For your mind anyone that have a contrary opinion or doesn't believe what u believe is a JW?

You have not said anything to prove that who people saw was God himself, Jesus always address himself as the son of God!

For your information Christ was resurrected as a spirit not just as a "glorified body" as u said.

Read this portions:
Acts 13:34 James Version (KJV)

34 And as concerning that he raised him up from the dead, now no more to return to corruption, he said on this wise, I will give you the sure mercies of David.

(The Bible said he will never return to corruption or flesh, 1 Corinthians 15:35-54 shows what corruption is our flesh!)

18 For Christ also suffered once for sins, the righteous for the unrighteous, to bring you to God. He was put to death in the body but made alive in the Spirit.

(he was made alive in spirit while dead in body).

Now the portion you shows that he was "received to glory", who received him if he was the same God that sent him?

Okay your difficulty is with the statement seen by Angels, the question is has Jesus been a flesh before? No, but the angels and humans including gentiles saw him as flesh. They were all eye witnesses so to say.
So I repeat no man will see God and live!

The Father received the Son (Jesus) up in glory.
The father sent His Word and that Word became Jesus- Jn 1:14. God and His Word are one- John 1:1. That's how Jesus is one with the Father. To deny this truth is to embrace confusion.

God was manifested and man and angels saw Him period. He did not come in His glory, and that's why men could see Him and still live.

Will a body resurrect without the Spirit?? That will not be resurrection. But to say he resurrected as a spirit alone is to deny the resurrection. That is gnosticism.

Christianity Etc › Re: "If You Believe The Earth Is 6000 Years Old Then You Deny Science" by eplanning: 7:12am On Apr 30, 2016

Topic has been discussed extensively here: https://www.nairaland.com/2968434/genesis-1-26-god-talking/1

You may wish to join there or invite some here.

Christianity Etc › Re: In Genesis 1: 26, God Was Talking To Someone, Do You Know The Person ? by eplanning: 11:14pm On Apr 29, 2016*

goodnews201668

He did not rise from the dead as a spirit but with a glorified body. He was flesh and bone yet He passed through walls. O glory! One day very soon, at the trump of God, i will put on mine.

Jn 20:26-28
26 Eight days later, his disciples were inside again, and Thomas was with them. Although the doors were locked, Jesus came and stood among them and said, “Peace be with you.” 27 Then he said to Thomas, “Put your finger here, and see my hands; and put out your hand, and place it in my side. Do not disbelieve, but believe.” 28 Thomas answered him, “My Lord and my God!

goodnews201668:
Can anyone see God in any form and live?

1Ti 3:16
16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness:God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

Take note of the "seen of angels". Will that be news if they saw Him in heaven before?

And did they remove the above passages from your JW bible too? Please stop believing and spreading lies.

Christianity Etc › Re: In Genesis 1: 26, God Was Talking To Someone, Do You Know The Person ? by eplanning: 9:51pm On Apr 29, 2016*

analice107:
He was there, he just wasn't called by the name Jesus. He was the one who appeared to Joshua as the Captain of the Lord's Army". Joshua worshipped him, he accepted the worship.

The one you describe my dear is The Angel of His presence- The Holy Ghost (Isaiah 63:9-10). He appears in several places in both Old and New testaments. Also called The Angel of the Lord in few other places.

The word "Angel" means "Messenger". He is the messenger of God's presence. The Holy Spirit takes the presence of God the Father and Jesus to wherever that presence is needed.

Jn 15:26
But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even[/b] the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me:[/b]

The Father never leaves His throne to go from place to place; He moves by His Spirit which proceeds from Him.

I can take you through several portions of scripture where He is manifested. This revelation will clear a lot of so-called "grey areas" in scripture and revolutionize your fellowship with the Holy Spirit.

Ignorance of this truth has caused many Christians to attribute deity to several things including the so-called "dove symbol". But the Holy Spirit is not a dove, neither does He look like one. THE HOLY SPIRIT LOOKS LIKE JESUS.

By the way, in Psalm 110:1 the psalmist is not referring to a past event but rather prophetically telling of the of Christ's authority resulting from His victory over death, hell and glorious ascension into heaven. As for His enemies becoming His footstool: Christ will sit in that place of authority until every one member of His body (the Church) has Satan and his cohorts under their feet.

analice107:
He has always been there. It was the act of redemption that gave Him the name" Jesus christ".

My dear you are wrong. There were others who bore the name Jesus then and there are still several today. Christ refers to "the anointed one and His anointing".

The name He earned having obediently completed the work of redemption is not in the spelling of the name JESUS, but in the authority behind the name.

[I]
Phi 2:8-11
8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross. 9 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name:10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; 11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.[/i]

The above scripture speaks of a name being given after He completed the work, not before.

Politics › Re: Delta Monarch Gives Fulani Herdsmen Nine Days To Quit Kingdom. by eplanning: 8:28pm On Apr 29, 2016

From what I see today in Nigeria I am very certain that Muslims would not need to use a violent jihad to islamize Nigeria. CHRISTIANS themselves will be used by Muslims to islamize Nigeria. Afterwards the Muslims will.. These are the type Muslims call the useful idiots.

Just ask yourself how Muslim nations became Islamic nations? Is there any record of them doing evangelical work? Did they tell people about how wonderful their prophet Mohammed is? How he raped women? How he beheaded nine hundred Jews in one day? How he had sex with a nine year old girl? How he was demon possessed for one year? How he could not perform a miracle? How he is a prophet without a prophecy? How he sold slaves for weapons of war?

If MUSLIMS did not do evangelism how come there are 58 nations of the world Who say they are ISLAMIC countries? Including countries that used to be Christian countries.

They used greedy pastors and stupid Christians. The ones they call the USEFUL IDIOTS. The Bible says, when men slept.....
These same CHRISTIANS were the ones that told us the elections had nothing to do with religion.

***News flash! Buhari just registered Nigeria in the Islamic coalition against terrorism led by Saudi Arabia. The very same Saudi Arabia that is the chief sponsor of Islamic terrorism.

***Newsflash! The first major conference buhari would bring to Nigeria is the INTERNATIONAL ISLAMIC CONFERENCE . A conference that pastor vice president cannot attend. While 'clueless' GEJ was convening INTERNATIONAL ECONOMIC CONFERENCE at a time of plenty Buhari is convening ISLAMIC CONFERENCE at a time of economic crisis. Now you see where his priority lies.

***Newsflash! Muslims are now using El Rufai Kaduna as a test case to see how they can stop CHRISTIANS from preaching the gospel not even for you to listen to a gospel message in your car. Who knows they may even ban gospel music.

***Newsflash! Other northern states are copying Mr El Rufai's law.

***Newsflash! Fulani herdsmen are sacking Christian villages in the north.

***Newsflash! Ambode sealed over twenty churches in Lagos for noise pollution. Not one Allah Akbar morning yelling mosque was sealed. Ambode is supposed to be a Christian remember? What do Muslims call them again?? Something like useful....
***Newsflash! The chapel at Aso Rock has been shut down and guess who had to explain to CHRISTIANS? Yeah our very own Pastor vice president. Again another I have fact the major very useful..... Who they used to get the Christian votes.

***Newsflash! The only minister to have died under Buhari happens to be a Christian Apologist. I mean a strong defender of the gospel of Jesus. Somehow all the safety features in the car suddenly stopped working. Not one airbag deployed. Remember this is a federal minister riding in a very expensive car fitted with the best safety features. Did I also mention that the driver did not die? He was strong enough to pull out the body of the minister. Issokay.

I hear many Christians say it is impossible to islamize Nigeria. Question is, If they try it today will you pick up arms? What are you doing to make sure it does not happen?

Pls o, this message is shared as received.

Christianity Etc › Re: The Man Pastor Chris Oyakhilome ::. by eplanning: 4:30pm On Apr 26, 2016

Agbanagba1:
I left because I was tired of their brand of christianity.Pastor Chris wife left because she was tired of their brand of christianity,oneday the scales will fall from your eyes.you'll be tired too and you will leave.

God forbid!

Christianity Etc › Re: The Man Pastor Chris Oyakhilome ::. by eplanning: 12:31am On Apr 23, 2016

feedthenation:
'Pastor Chris is a Professor of Theology and holds a PhD in Pneumatology-a study of the Holy Spirit and other Celestial Beings'.

From which University ot Institute did Pastor Chris got this PhD from?

What's that? Please speak English.

Christianity Etc › Re: The Man Pastor Chris Oyakhilome ::. by eplanning: 12:29am On Apr 23, 2016

Agbanagba1:
Pastor Chris And Christ Embassy are a gateway to hell. I attended the church for 2 years Warri And they were worst years of my life.

And you stayed throughout the 2 years? Liar!

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Christianity Etc › Re: In Genesis 1: 26, God Was Talking To Someone, Do You Know The Person ? by eplanning: 8:18pm On Apr 07, 2016

ifenes:
So the bible is your precious book? How has that helped your country so far?

And do you know where we would have been without the Bible?

Politics › Re: This Man Apologizes To Those Who Voted APC Because Of Him (PHOTO) by eplanning: 8:03pm On Apr 07, 2016

purpinkx:
Chilean president

Christianity Etc › Re: Chris And Anita Oyakhilome: The Truth You Never Knew by eplanning: 10:26pm On Apr 05, 2016

dollarlander:
Remember, before the death of elder oyakhilome. He caught pastor chris in the white house, with a lady rubbing cream in his head, the jerry curl, his father wasn't happy with the state he met them especially pastor chris wearing boxers lying on the floor the lady on top rubbing cream.

Elder oyakhilome then ordered pastor Anita to come back home from UK and when she arrived pastor chris moved to the church.

Is that rumour also?
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See, the church is too controversial. Especially the jerry curls men wear in the church does not show you guys are serious.

Yes the church may be growing bigger because it is designed to attract young people like beautiful ladies dressed indecently. Boobs and butts display and sex. By the time those youngsters have serious spiritual issue they will find their way out and seek solutions to their problems.

You have a very active imaginaton... unfortunately, so full of immorality. So the millions of members we have all around the world have had no serious problems yet? Interesting.

20 years ago we were called children's church. It's funny how 20 years after, we are still refered to as children. grin

[PSALM 103:5 comes to mind] cool

Young people are not as stupid as you think. The fact that young people keep pouring into the church in every nation is a sign that the future belongs to us.

It is clear that the Lord has given him (Dr. Chris) the nations.

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Christianity Etc › Re: In Genesis 1: 26, God Was Talking To Someone, Do You Know The Person ? by eplanning: 10:06am On Mar 11, 2016

johnw74:
The Bible say's the first man was Adam, and sin entered the world through Adam.
With Adam being the first Man, and with sin entering the World through Adam, it doesn't seem that there could have been a pre-Adamic race of people that sinned, and was destroyed by God.

1Co 15:45 And so it is written, "The first man, Adam, became a living soul," the last Adam was a life-giving Spirit.

Rom 5:12 Therefore, even as through one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin, and so death passed on all men inasmuch as all sinned:

The scriptures you quoted refer to the present Adamite world. The pre-Adamite man that existed then was not made in the image and likeness of God as Adam was ( Gen 1:26). That man was perhaps just a higher and more intelligent class of animal. The destruction of that world was the result of the rebellion of Lucifer who was the covering cherub in charge of the earth. So Lucifer had already ruled the earth and become a fallen creature before Adam's time. He was already a fallen creature when he came into Adam's Eden(Gen 3; 2Cor 11:3). Hence, he must have fallen with a pre-Adamite creation.

According to Isaiah 14:12-14, Lucifer actually invaded heaven from earth hoping to defeat God and take His kingdom; but Lucifer himself was defeated and his kingdom cursed. Before his defeat, he had a throne, implying a kingdom and subjects to rule over. His kingdom was under the clouds, under the stars, under heaven-therefore, on earth.

Ezekiel 28:11-17 pictures Lucifer before he fell, as the annointed cherub or protector of the earth, full of wisdom and perfect in beauty, ruling in a garden of Eden (before Adam), created by God and perfect in his ways up to the time of his fall which was before the days of Adam.

So you see, a lack of understanding of this truth is why a lot of christians get confused and even thrown off balance when scientists come with facts that you cant deny which prove the existence of life on earth dating back to millions of years. There are fossils which are ruins of ancient cities, dinosaurs, homo-erectus which they have tested and proven to be millions of years old yet man has been on the earth since Adam for just about 6000 years according to the bible. So do we just dismiss those as forgeries and move on? No. I want to know that what i believe in is actually truth, then i can stake my life for it.

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Christianity Etc › Re: In Genesis 1: 26, God Was Talking To Someone, Do You Know The Person ? by eplanning: 8:59am On Mar 11, 2016

johnw74:
Okay, but you are coming to that conclusion on some of the scriptures you posted, being to do with Noah's flood, the Babylonian exile,
the end of the age etc.

Realy? Kindly point out to me. Tnx

Christianity Etc › Re: Anita Oyakhilome Gets Divorce Certificate by eplanning: 10:33am On Mar 10, 2016

Kayelyon:
WE MUST ALL APPEAR BEFORE THE JUDGEMENT SEAT OF CHRIST!

Abeg shut up! So you know about the judgement seat of Christ? Mtcheew.

Christianity Etc › Re: Anita Oyakhilome Gets Divorce Certificate by eplanning: 9:26am On Mar 10, 2016*

vooks:
Primary cause for divorce is listed as infidelity.
You will of course bury your head in the sand and deny this,but at the same time you will peddle unsubstantiated gossip that she attempted to usurp authority. Talking with both sides of your mouth

Here is the biggest thing you are missing. The divorce will open the lid on Oyaks' PERSONAL wealth which will be shared equally. I'm certain NOBODY among his sycophants had any clue as to his exact net worth. Anita will also write about her misery in his hands. If she lies, Oyaks can sue her for defamation. This idol you so gladly worship is about to be exposed

What I see here is just an active imagination. Did you not read that they are already done with the court? In fact that (the sharing of assets) is what delayed the matter. The Man of God declared a house in SA and about one hundred and twenty something thousand USD. Of course they were dissappointed since they expected more, hence their coming to NL to wail. grin

Has she not started writing? If she had any more aresenal left. She would have fired her biggest by now. Let her write more if she likes, it will only expose the kind of woman she is and further vindicate the MOG.

She'd even risk offending her children who are still very much active in ministry at Christ Embassy due to their father's good influence and upbringing.

Christianity Etc › Re: In Genesis 1: 26, God Was Talking To Someone, Do You Know The Person ? by eplanning: 1:15am On Mar 10, 2016*

johnw74:
As I said you may be right, some adhere to it, but Isaiah 24 is speaking off the end of the age when the earth is destroyed and a new earth comes down from heaven.
[quote author=johnw74 post=43631856]

You will say so when you choose to marry that verse with the rest of the chapter. That doesn't apply all the time with biblical prophecy. An example is Isaiah 9:6-7. You may loose the message if you marry those verses with the rest of chapter 9.

johnw74:
Again if you read the whole chapters you will see it is about God's wrath - the day of the Lord at the end of the age.

No, you are wrong. Here are 5 proofs that Jeremiah 4:23 is refering to the original earth:

1. The only time the earth has ever been " without form and void " was before the six days of Genesis 1:3-2:25 when it was made chaos through the fall of lucifer and the pre- Adamites when God brought the first great universal flood upon the earth to destroy all life. (Gen 1:2, 2Peter 3:5-7).

2. The only time when the sun, moon and stars of heaven were forbidden to give light on the earth was in the period before the six days of re-creation, as in Gen1:2. There had been light on the earth when it was first created in the beginning (Gen1:1), and there has been light ever since the first day of Gen1:3-31.

3.The mountains and hills have been moved and will yet be moved by earthquakes, but there never has been a time since Adam to this day, nor will there ever be a time from our day into all eternity that the earth has been or will be without a man or bird, or fruitful place, as seen by Jeremiah in Jer 4:25. We are therefore required by facts to associate Jer 4:23-26 with the same time as that of Gen1:2. Also we are made to realize that there were men and fruitful places on earth before Adam's time that were destryed by the flood of Gen 1:2; 2Pet 3:5-7.

4. The earth was created to be inhabited (Isaiah 45:18) and it was inhabited from the beginning by man who lived in cities (Jer 4:25-26)n by nations(Isaiah 14:12-14). And a social system of mortal men who were capable of being drowned (2Pet3:5-7).

5. Jer 4:23-26 could not even apply to the time of Noah because at that time the heavens had lights, and there were men, birds, fruitful places left on earth after the flood.
Neither could it apply to judgement at the end of the age bcausse there will still be men birds, etc in that day.

johnw74:
replenish

H4390

מָלָא מָלֵא
mâlê' mâlâ'
maw-lay', maw-law'
A primitive root, to fill or (intransitively) be full of, in a wide application (literally and figuratively): - accomplish, confirm, + consecrate, be at an end, be expired, be fenced, fill, fulfil, (be, become, X draw, give in, go) fully (-ly, -ly set, tale), [over-] flow, fulness, furnish, gather (selves, together), presume, replenish, satisfy, set, space, take a [hand-] full, + have wholly.
Total KJV occurrences: 251

Perhaps the translated word would have better been "fill" and not "replenish".

Nope. I think it was a perfectly translated word.

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