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Foreign AffairsRe: Why Should Trade Between African Countries Be In Dollars - Ruto by Ertugrul: 3:28pm On Jun 16, 2023
lawani:
There are white Tuaregs and black Tuaregs. Black Berbers and white Berbers. What they share is language and culture. The lighter ones have part ancestry that relatively recently arrived from the North. North Africa is similar to Europe than to subsaharan Africa.
You are wrong, the light skinned ones have nothing to do with the demographic changes of north Africa, which saw Europeans alter the demography.. the light skinned ones have similar features with ethnicities all across from Mauritania to Ethiopia, they share similar features with varying degree of skin colors, yellow skinned (not white) brown and black
The people u talk of in north Africa are Caucasian looking, modern day arabs, these light skinned tuaregs or berbers are subjugated in many north african countries and very distinct from the main arabs
Foreign AffairsRe: Why Should Trade Between African Countries Be In Dollars - Ruto by Ertugrul: 2:32pm On Jun 16, 2023
lawani:
Before one hundred generations they will overcome that by becoming Negroes.
Is it not also crazy that the tuaregs and other light skinned ethnicities of the sahel, have been living in the hotest conditions for thousands of years in the desert but still remain light skinned, with distinct features from normal black people... light skin, silky hair, pointed nose and other features similar to white people...yet they live in hot climate...
Foreign AffairsRe: Why Should Trade Between African Countries Be In Dollars - Ruto by Ertugrul: 2:28pm On Jun 16, 2023
lawani:
Before one hundred generations they will overcome that by becoming Negroes.
and all of a sudden, they will have flat nose , their shape of head will change, their hair texture will change like the aboriginals, their women's shape will also change...abeg rest
Foreign AffairsRe: Why Should Trade Between African Countries Be In Dollars - Ruto by Ertugrul: 2:27pm On Jun 16, 2023
Kennyking1234:
The igbos invented democracy, they were the first to enter the iron age... They also built pyramids go and read...
Also Benin.
Stop this jargon abeg, if they invented democracy, and so what about it, is democracy as we know it borne from Igbo invention? They were the first to do it , doesn't mean that other people did not invent theirs at some point...i do not know about the iron age thing so i cannot comment on that..
Foreign AffairsRe: Why Should Trade Between African Countries Be In Dollars - Ruto by Ertugrul: 7:51am On Jun 15, 2023
Mr quintopia, i pity people like you, you claim you sabi, but yout head is empty, how can a logical person claim there was no crime and corruption in africa before the Europeans arrive...
How is this even feasible , africans lived in organized societies and had laws, what were the laws and the state for, if there were no crimes?
Thank you Mr lawani for pointing out that we should not be quick to blame the White for all our problems, for sure they have hands in our setback but we still deserve a lot of blame, we should look inward and see how we can solve our problems...
Foreign AffairsRe: Why Should Trade Between African Countries Be In Dollars - Ruto by Ertugrul: 7:45am On Jun 15, 2023
lawani:
No empire in history ever surrendered hold on their vassals until they collapsed. Persia, Rome, Turkey etc never did that. The Oyo, Benin, Borno, Sokoto Caliphate etc never did that in West Africa. Britain was the first to start that because of their policy of no taxation without representation. Nobody has ever dashed anybody independence before then. If you were not granted independence, you would be uniform in organisation with your colonial masters. Is it right to be verbally attacking those who gave you free independence?. It is unintelligent in my opinion and an observer will think you are not smart. What are you belligerent over?. You don't criticize people when evidence is clear that you could not have done better and that you even did worse!. It is only the west that would win people in war and still allow them to manage their own affairs. It was unheard of in the past. However most African countries are only poor because of too many children and they are rising up to the challenge and the main odd one out is Nigeria.
Guy your points on this thread is very intelligent, what the west did has not happened before in human history, especially all thanks to the USA, the European powers were weakened after ww2, yet still held on to their territories, if the USA had decided for them to continue colonization ,who would have stopped them? Soviet union? USSR expanded after ww2 ,
While the west are not saints, their order (america) is the best in history of humanity
Foreign AffairsRe: Why Should Trade Between African Countries Be In Dollars - Ruto by Ertugrul: 11:00pm On Jun 14, 2023
Quintopia:
ACTUALLY, I'M NOT DONE WITH YOU. THAT VIDEO FEATURED MASSIVE EVIDENCE FROM MULTIPLE SOURCES WHICH YOU'VE IGNORED. BECAUSE YOU ARE PROGRAMMED TO BELIEVE YOU ARE INFERIOR

Yes i have not watched the entire video




ACTUALLY YES IT DOES END THE DEBATE IF SCHOLARS ARE USING ARCHAEOLOGICAL AND PALEONTOLOGICAL EVIDENCE AND QUOTING ANCIENT CHINESE DOCUMENTS WHICH CLEARLY STATE THAT BLACK AFRICAN EMPIRES RULED IN CHINA AT THE DAWN OF THAT COUNTRY'S HISTORY.

You see why there's something wrong with you? What is China? There was never a unified people called chinese, they all just belonged to the same race , different ethnicities, with different kingdoms, same way we have igbo,benin and co...up untill the han dynasty which unified the ethnicities and kingdoms, and oversaw massive demography change, uprooting massive ethnicities and assimilating them into the Han, this led to the formation of present day chinese identity, even till today, there are still different ethnic groups in china with their own identity and language, different from mandarin ....
So what do u now mean at the dawn of chinese history?
Were the black rulers a minority ruling class? or were the Chinese people black, then all of a sudden,from mongolia to Thailand , vietnam to Japan, south korea to central asia, all of them in different climatic, dietary conditions all started evolving to form that distinct racial features...??


YOU DO NOT HAVE TO WAIT FOR RACIST WHITE MEDIA TO PUBLICISE THESE FACTS BEFORE THEY BECOME FACTS IN YOUR HEAD, BECAUSE YOU WILL WAIT FOREVER.

JUST AS ANCIENT EGYPT WAS A BLACK CIVILIZATION, AS NOTED BY ANCIENT GREEK VISITORS TO EGYPT, YET THE RACIST WHTE MEDIA STILL PRESENTS THEM AS WHITE FOLK, SO YOUR BRAIN SHOULD NOT WORK BASED ON WHAT THE WHITE MEDIA ESTABLISHMENT HAS 'ACCEPTED', BUT RATHER ON WHAT RESEARCH TELLS YOU.


You must always find someone to blame, but you must know that while the ancient Egyptians were black, Egypt underwent series of demographic changes due to endless invasions, this would have tampered the demography over time and create a mix of different races...and also Egypt was a prosperous state, economic migration on large scale would also be logical...stop blaming white people for everything, use your common sense to think small
THAT IS WHAT IS MEANT BY BEING INTELLIGENT.



DID YOU ACTUALLY WATCH THAT VIDEO?

PROFESSOR JIN LI PRODUCED DNA EVIDENCE IN A MAJOR MULTINATIONAL RESEARCH STUDY WHICH SHOWED THAT THE ENTIRE GENE POOL OF CHINA IS AFRICAN!

SO WHAT ARE YOU ARGUING ABOUT?
I am not arguing that the world don't share similar DNA, i think only the polynesia and micronesia people of the Pacific have a little bit distinct DNA, all humans are from the same source, that is not arguable...my point is that ,the reason for racial variations cannot be pointed solely on evolution... whatever happened that led to formation of races is still open for debate in my opinion, i personally entertain the idea of genetic tweaking by extraterrestrial intelligence

FRIGGIN' DUNCE.
Foreign AffairsRe: Why Should Trade Between African Countries Be In Dollars - Ruto by Ertugrul: 10:37pm On Jun 14, 2023
Benin this ,benin that, they had drainage, and so what? Did the romans not build aqui duct that is still visible today...benin had good well planned cities, and so what, were there not great cities in the medieval era, Baghdad, Persepolis, Constantinople, and lots more...
Foreign AffairsRe: Why Should Trade Between African Countries Be In Dollars - Ruto by Ertugrul: 10:33pm On Jun 14, 2023
Quintopia:
I'M DONE WITH YOU.

GET LOST.

PEABRAIN.

Mr ''I must be inferior''.

Hope you don't transmit your disease to your kids.
It is your inferiority that is making you to chest beat about a non existent history, you have zero knowledge of history and coming hear to talk nonsense...
Africans colonize china my left foot
Africans civilize Europe
Africa was peaceful before the European Invasion
You should be ashamed
Foreign AffairsRe: Why Should Trade Between African Countries Be In Dollars - Ruto by Ertugrul: 10:27pm On Jun 14, 2023
tsdarkside:
i understand that you dont know....
i was like you....soo....its okay....
Lol una too funny for this app
Foreign AffairsRe: Why Should Trade Between African Countries Be In Dollars - Ruto by Ertugrul: 10:26pm On Jun 14, 2023
Quintopia:
You are complete BUFFOON with no brain.

That video you just dismissed contained testimony from research professors and Oxford trained scholars, showing that Africans ruled in China thousands of years ago. THESE ARE MEN THAT HAVE STUDIED CHINESE ACCOUNTS AND HISTORICAL CHRONICLES.

You must be some sort of school dropout to think you can just ignore their findings and regurgitate your ''I am inferior'' narrative.

Disgusting little wretch.

Abeg get lost from here. Let serious people who understand SCHOLARLY RESEARCH speak.
So because an oxford professor said so, then it must be law? Are u okay, is this not science that will keep changing based on new facts...
Do you even have an idea how research is been made, because a university in Detroit makes a finding, does that end the debate about a particular topic? Is it a universally accepted theory that Africans ruled in China? So who are the descendants of these africans, modern day Chinese? Go and sit down abeg
Foreign AffairsRe: Why Should Trade Between African Countries Be In Dollars - Ruto by Ertugrul: 10:21pm On Jun 14, 2023
Quintopia:
It is because you are an ignorant mumu that is completely illiterate about his history that you don't know that CRIME and CORRUPTION were virtually NON EXISTENT before the western intrusion of Nigeria and black Africa in general.

And that it is because of the destruction of precolonial administrative systems and religions which held leaders ACCOUNTABLE, replaced by a FOREIGN EUROPEAN SYSTEM of administration plus ineffective foreign religions that preach ''forgiveness'' for criminal activity, stealing, looting, and corruption.

IF YOU DON'T KNOW YOUR HISTORY GO AND STUDY IT.

GO TO YOUR VILLAGE AND ASK YOUR ELDERS IF THEY BUILT FRONT DOORS TO THEIR HOUSES BEFORE EUROPEAN INVASIONS.

THEY WILL TELL YOU CAPITAL NO, BECAUSE THERE WAS NO NEED.

It was unheard of for somebody to enter another person's house to steal.


SAME IN YORUBALAND SAME IN IGBOLAND, SAME IN THE NORTH.

In fact when the Portuguese and Dutch visited Benin city in the 15th century, they recorded how even the richest houses had no front doors. JUST AN ENTRANCE. NO DOOR.

TODAY, AFTER YOUR OYINBO TRANSFORMATION, to Jesus, Mary, Muhammed, and US constitutional system, what is your situation?

Can you build a house today without a front door?

Without gate, fence, with barbed wire on top?

Without iron grills on your windows?

CCTV if you can afford it?

Do you know that that ancient African tradition of PIETY and ABSENCE OF CRIME is still practiced in rural parts of Nigeria today where the old ways are still practiced?

There are rural parts of Imo state where traders leave their wares such as firewood along the road overnight and go to bed, in the full knowledge that nobody will touch them.

LOOK, you Nigerian youths need to shout less and go and learn who you really are as Africans, because you're totally LOST.
That's why you are so ignorant, do u know the amount of instability and warfare fought in the medieval times? Yes we had systems in place, but were they perfect? Absolutely not, was African states devoid of internal strife and external threats? Absolutely No, so stop painting an el dorado of african states before European colonization and stop overhyping Benin, if Benin was up to your hype, we would see their influence till today, go to Europe and asia and see the remnants of ancient sophisticated states, can u compare, Benin was good but no overhype am abeg
Foreign AffairsRe: Why Should Trade Between African Countries Be In Dollars - Ruto by Ertugrul: 9:55pm On Jun 14, 2023
lawani:
There is no evolution. No evidence for evolution. What you have evidence for is adaptation. A skin getting lightened is no different from a plant in a shade growing towards the light. Is a plant growing towards sunlight evolution?. You can only adapt to your habitat, become wild, become tame but you can't evolve.
Yes you can adapt to your habitat for sure, but adaptation will not entirely form a new race and completely alter DNA, to the variations we have today...human history has been detailed for thousands of years, nobody has ever mentioned this evolution...as i say, evolution has influenced us a great deal, we will continue to adapt, but personally for me, i believe this science is not complete, an eventually we humans will come up with proof and evidence beyond reasonable doubts about the truth of our existence....
It is not as if climatic conditions and other factors are exactly uniform in every region of the world, but yet u see a uniformity in races and subtle differences in sub races... For example look at parts of china and india, there are regions in these countries that have very cold weather all year round and areas with relative hot weather similar to Africa, yet the people are the same...parts of India has similar weather to africa, yet the people are the same with people who live in the Himalayas...
Indonesia papua region are black, yet other parts of Indonesia in same proximity are not blacks...our history as a species on earth has not been fully uncovered , i advice u to maintain an open mind and not totally believe your views even tho u still have substantial evidence for ur claims
Foreign AffairsRe: Why Should Trade Between African Countries Be In Dollars - Ruto by Ertugrul: 9:45pm On Jun 14, 2023
Quintopia:
If you don’t know something, ask, instead of typing ignorant stupidity.

The degree of loss of Melanin is directly related to the climatic conditions in the new settlement - the colder the temperatures, the greater the loss of melanin. So asking why Melanesian settlers of Australia etc are not white skinned is demented, given the near tropical climates in that part of world.

You don’t know anything, so keep quiet and learn.

THIS VIDEO WILL EDUCATE YOU FURTHER.

When Africa Colonised China

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8oy_XT4JDLU
Areas with tropical climate include parts of North America, South America, Asia, then Africa and Australia
Is there any part of these places barring Africa and Australia that is black? Please stop this nonsense of africans colonizing china, stop it please, its so shameful...
My point is simple, while evolution has played role in human development, it is not the complete truth about our existence...yes we are all humans with a great deal of similar genetic code, but the major difference of race is not down to evolution, take it or leave it, i rest my case...
Foreign AffairsRe: Why Should Trade Between African Countries Be In Dollars - Ruto by Ertugrul: 8:02pm On Jun 14, 2023
lawani:
150 generations ago of forty years each, Britons were pitch black. Google Cheddar man. Would anyone say the Yoruba and the Masai were one people 150 generations ago?. Definitely not likely. Europeans looked like Africans just a while ago while Neanderthals were the only white people because of their habitat. Europe was covered with ice a while ago is why modern civilization started in Africa but there were human beings of different species who lived two million years ago. Viable humans that must have built their own civilization. A large chunk of Yoruba people came from North Africa in Egypt going by the present language which is over fifty percent similar to the language in which Ptahhotep's book of the dead was written. He was the first published philosopher of ancient Egypt that we know of. A large chunk of Yoruba ancestors were therefore definitely Egyptians and they would have been lighter skinned because it can not be more than forty generations ago. Anyhow you look at it you can not classify people by skin color. Egyptians circumcise their males as meticulously as the Yoruba and only the Yoruba have the story of the origin of circumcision. From all indications, no Homo sapiens south of the Sahara originally. It started in Morocco and the color of that Homo sapiens will depend on the climate of Morocco three hundred thousand years ago. Speech did not start in Africa too since Denisovan and Neanderthals had speech. All human species used language. Even Dolphins are said to have a sort of language.
oga this part of human history is not true, while evolution has played its role, it is not the complete story of our variations....yes there would have been large scale migrations hundreds of thousands of years ago , it doesn't mean that all of a sudden these people started evolving to the point of black turning to white, flat nose turning to pointed nose, hair texture changing completely, guy abeg we humans have not completely figured out history...in my own point of view, they must have been an external intelligent influence on life here.... there's no concrete evidence for this, but to tell me that the man from finland was once black, abeg please rest
Foreign AffairsRe: Why Should Trade Between African Countries Be In Dollars - Ruto by Ertugrul: 7:45pm On Jun 14, 2023
Quintopia:
You don’t seem to understand how history works. The FIRST occupants and settlers on every continent were black Africans. That’s been established years ago and there is no scholarly dispute about it.

Africans are the original humans. The rest of the world are ‘humankind’.

They are variations of the original AFRICAN settlers, and have been physically modified through climatic adaptation after thousands of years in temperate climates.

They lost their MELANIN, which is a protective chemical against sunburn in hot climates, and which accounts for brown/black skin tones.

Without that heavenly gift of MELANIN, no African would be alive today, as our ancestors would have perished millennia ago in the African sun.

The FIRST empires in CHINA were black African. The Shang dynasty comprised direct settlers from Africa.

The first Greeks and Europeans were black Africans.

The first Brazilians, Americans and Mexicans were black Africans.

So the early inventions and discoveries that happened in Africa, from speech to writing to mathematics to architecture to medicine to the use of a calendar to marriage to religion to iron smelting to mining of minerals etc were carried by these migrating Africans to those continents and regions, and further developed there by their descendants down the ages till today.

The so called whites and Chinese and others are your DESCENDANTS.

THEY CAME FROM YOU, SO THERE IS NOTHING THEY CAN DO THAT YOU CANNOT DO, AND EVEN DO BETTER, IF YOU CAN JUST GET RID OF YOUR LOW SELF ESTEEM AND RACIAL INFERIORITY COMPLEX WHICH GREEDY COLONIALISTS DELIBERATELY PUT IN YOUR HEADS TO KEEP YOU DOWN SO THEY CAN EXPLOIT YOU.
I know where you are getting this garbage information from, lol this theory is pure crap, evolution alone cannot lead to massive alterations in DNA which has led to formation of different races... there's a part of human history that we haven't completely figured out...so please cut that crap of the world been initially settled by black africans...
That is how some brainwashed black Americans are now claiming that they are indeginous to the Americas...oga if u as a black man like stay in Siberia for one million years, u will not become white, and look like the Inuit people of the artic region...
This part of human history of our existence is still a research in process, while evolution has played a role, it is not the complete details of our existence...
The only black people that exists outside Africa are the people of the Pacific region of Australasia....why did these ones not still change color...abeg drop that crap...so all of a sudden black people evolved into the native American races and their features...the chinese races and their features, the indian (aryan) races and their features..... guy abeg park well...
Foreign AffairsRe: Why Should Trade Between African Countries Be In Dollars - Ruto by Ertugrul: 7:25pm On Jun 14, 2023
luckingto50:
ECOWAS countries talks about using one currency for trade that was the main reason Chad President was killed after they cause chaos in his country.
only God go save us from this brainwashing, chai so chad president was killed because of eco...kai...so his son that's in power nko? Will they kill him too... u go just dy open mouth dy talk rubbish, even the way France rush to provide legitimacy to the guy after he took power, and yet u are here talking nonsense...na west tell idris to go warfront?
Foreign AffairsRe: Why Should Trade Between African Countries Be In Dollars - Ruto by Ertugrul: 7:22pm On Jun 14, 2023
pansophist:
Lol, I just over simplified it. It's worse than that.

Why is naira always measured against the USD? Why can the US afford to build almost 900 military bases globally?

How come just one country have the power to destroy other countries? How come only one country can sanction other countries all around the world and this sanctioned suffer in real time?

How come the US can just steal over 300B dollars of Russian foreign reserves, same thing will Afghanistan and countries they don't like and go free?

What kind of world is it where one country (The US) can be in war for close to 226 years of its less than 250 years of founding?

Why are all the global institutions in the hands of the US or collective west? UN, interpol, WTO, ICC, world bank, etc?

How come one country have monopolized the ability to define democracy, to punish and kill elected leaders of any countries, and even be the victim's judge, and go free?

How come just the USA can give foreign aids to hundreds of countries globally without going broke? It's the reserved currencies of the USD that gave them such privilege.

I can keep going on and on, but you should get the point. When you use the USD, you support these systems. The USD is the blood and vein of their power. The whole world by using the USD is bankrolling the US and it's evil empire.

And they must go down. Or else, the world will perish, and naira will keep getting worse and worse. And most importantly, nothing the Nigerian government can do that will increase the value of the naira, unless they sell our resources in naira. Not USD.

But if any leaders try that, then he just signed his death certificate. They will come for him. That's the sad reality of the world we live in.

Our ancestors liberated themselves from colonialism, only to replace it with something worse, which is, imperialism.
Please go and research the brettonwood to know why currencies are pegged against the us dollar
You ask why the usa can afford military base globally, it is because it has the biggest economy in the world and the largest military budget...
The budget is paid for by tax revenues, when the federal government has a deficit, it borrows to shore up revenue, that debt is repaid by increasing revenue, cutting spending, or raising tax...
The USA can sanction anybody because it controls the global financial system, the US Dollar, Swift are tools in its arsenal...
The USA can unilaterally sanction and freeze assets because it is has the ability to do so, owing to the fact that it controls the flow of money in the world, and in the aftermath of world war two and the fall of the USSR in 1991, it became the dominant world power, so it can leverage its financial control to sanction states...

The USa has not been in 226 yeare of continuous warfare... it is important to note that warfare is very important to changing order, enforcing laws and Strategic interest, all thanks to democracy and increased globalization, the need warfare has reduced...
Yes as a superpower, the USA has been involved in multiple wars...

The global institutions are heavily linked to the west because they are the founders and funders of these organization, will u put ur money in something u cannot control? These organization also reflected the new Democratic order led by the west after the world war 2

After the world war 2, the USA and Europe sort to push democracy and capitalims as the defacto economic and political system, while this serves as means to push soft power, they also used it for their own strategic interest,

The aid given out by USA and the west is budgeted , they budget money for usaid and other forms of aid, often there are benefits from this kind of aid, look at china today, china with its large economy is now a big donor and lender to many countries...it is because of its economy, if the usa economy collapses today, it cannot leverage on its dollar might, the usa gives out aid because its economy is huge

The US empire is not evil, it is the best empire the world has ever seen, ruling indirectly without occupation, the technological , political and human evolution since the end of ww2 has been enormous, why do u think wars have reduced drastically in this era, it is because of America...the USD is used because its the dominant currency used for global trade, the stability of American political and economic system provides confidence for central banks to store usd for global trade
When it comes to geo-politics, there's neither good or evil, every state must protect its interest as long as it has the might to do so...nobody is good or bad
The era when the west had so much influence in African affairs is gone, the post colonial era was the height of it, now many African states have found their feet, and with Russia and china in the game now, such unilateral western influence has reduced...
Its not just talking about dethroning usd in african trade, do u have a systems to ensure that the usd can be replaced, the Europeans formed EU and now euro is used primarily as their trade currency...what system is William ruto bringing forward...will African governments be ready to make the sacrifice needed for a common currency, do they have the innovation to come up with something good?
Colonialism or imperialism, the truth is, there must be order, and that order must be enforced...
Foreign AffairsRe: Why Should Trade Between African Countries Be In Dollars - Ruto by Ertugrul: 6:57pm On Jun 14, 2023
My quintopia, you have browsed very good points.. and in my earlier post, i made reference to ancient Egypt as the most sophisticated African state in the medieval era, now with someof other things you pointed out like mathematics, mining , smelting, is there evidence to prove that the mathematics skills invented by the Swaziland natives was the bedrock that influenced mathematics in Europe? If you are the first to do something, does it now mean that nobody else can discover another means to do it without your input? For example, if Africans were the first to do international trade, does it mean that other civilizations across Europe and the world were influenced by ethiopians and people of the sahara...what about the native people of the Americas, did they also learn trade, mathematics, mining from Africans?

While your points are valid, only the ones from Egypt and Ethiopia are very valid because these were large states with sophisticated political system and high degree of diplomatic and people to people interaction , looking at their geographical locations, its easy to see why...but to tell me that mathematics from Swaziland is the bedrock for modern mathematics, omo go and sit down....
While good inventions were first made in Africa, does it mean that they civilized the world? Even China and india had very good inventions of their own, would u say they civilized the world?
Foreign AffairsRe: Why Should Trade Between African Countries Be In Dollars - Ruto by Ertugrul: 6:36pm On Jun 14, 2023
pansophist:
If Brics establishes something comparable to the dollar, then the global South will one by one, migrate. Especially if the currency is not computer generated like the USD.

The USD is the largest scam ever. If you use the USD for anything, you're being robbed literally. I'll explain a bit.

In 1971, the then US President (Reagan) ended what is known as the gold standard. before then, you can take your USD and exchange it to gold.

But after that, the USD became a fiat currency, meaning that it became backed by nothing. It's just a worthless piece of paper that is value is based on the fact that other countries trade with it.

So imagine the privilege given to the USA by just be able to print a trillion USD, out if nothing, and use those papers to buy real stuff like our oil, or cars from China, food, etc. Just imagine going to room and print a currency, and the world accepted it and gave you real stuff.

So the US is cheating the world. It cannot continue like this. They want this scam to continue, hence they killed Gadaffi and Saddam, and ignored all the crimes by the Saudi because they promise to sell their oil only in USD.

If you are searching for a global scam that is legal, official, and accepted, the USD is it.
this nairaland just tire me...so the USA killed saddam because he oppose us dollar and killed gaddafi cause he did same?
The usa just print money anyhow and is cheating the world...
There has been no significant advantages to the pegging of currencies to the US Dollar?
Tufiakwa
Foreign AffairsRe: Why Should Trade Between African Countries Be In Dollars - Ruto by Ertugrul: 6:29pm On Jun 14, 2023
Quintopia:
TYPICAL NIGERIAN DUNCE WITH ZERO KNOWLEDGE OF AFRICAN HISTORY.
I
WHERE DO I START WITH EDUCATING YOUR EMPTY HEAD?

ARE YOU AWARE THAT BENIN CITY WAS DESCRIBED BY 16TH CENTURY DUTCH VISITORS AS BEING AMONG THE MOST BEAUTIFUL AND BEST PLANNED CITIES IN THE WORLD?

ARE YOU AWARE THAT BENIN CITY HAD STREETLIGHTS IN THE 14TH CENTURY, 400 YEARS BEFORE LONDON?

ARE YOU AWARE THAT BENIN CITY HAD UNDERGROUND DRAINAGE USING SUNKEN IMPLUVIUMS?

ARE YOU AWARE THAT BLACK WEST AFRICANS RULED VIRTUALLY ALL OF EUROPE BETWEEN 711 AND 1492?

ARE YOU AWARE THAT IT WAS THOSE BLACK AFRICANS WHO PULLED EUROPE OUT OF ITS ‘DARK AGES’ AND INTO THEIR RENAISSANCE, WHICH WAS THE SPRINGBOARD FOR THE INDUSTRIAL REVOLUTION?

GO ON GOOGLE IMAGES RIGHT NOW AND TYPE IN ‘MOORISH CRESTS AND STATUES’.

YOU WILL SEE HUNDREDS OF EUROPEAN ARISTOCRATIC FAMILY CRESTS AND ALSO STATUES SHOWING THE MOORS. BLACK AS PITCH.

GUESS WHERE THE OLDEST IRON SMELTING SITE ON EARTH WAS RECENTLY FOUND?

LEJJA, SOUTH EAST NIGERIA.

DATED 25,000 YEARS OLD.

GOOGLE IT IF YOU THINK I’M LYING.

WHERE WOULD THE WORLD BE TODAY WITHOUT THE INNOVATION OF IRON SMELTING?

IT IS BECAUSE YOU PEOPLE DON’T KNOW YOUR HISTORY THAT YOU THINK YOU ARE INFERIOR.

PITIFUL!
So what does benin having streetlight and plan cities have to do with civilizing europe, and they crazy thing is u have to depend on Portuguese records to know about benin in the past...
Abeg when did black africans rule over all of Europe, do you know how foolish u sound, what was the name of the state?
How did they pull Europe out of dark ages? After the collapse of the Roman empire, the western Roman empire fell into disarray for a long time, it doesn't mean that it was all total chaos during this period, states thrived and fell eventually... and during this period the arab caliphate was at its peak, which ushered strong stability in the east...
Yes the so called moors , ruled over parts of Spain and Portugal after the collapse of the ummyad caliphate, for hundreds of years...they were a minority ruling class as there wasnt a huger demography change in the iberian region, so which means to an extent ,they would have adopted local customs and vice versa

That iron smelting is a good one....
My point remains how did Africa civilize Europe? What are the remnants of your impact in Europe?
Do you see how u have been fooled and brainwashed?
Arab civilize part of Africa, u can see the impact, Roman empire civilize large parts of Europe, you can see the impact...
Apart from parts of southern Spain, what is the impact of the Berber states in Europe?
Foreign AffairsRe: Why Should Trade Between African Countries Be In Dollars - Ruto by Ertugrul: 6:19pm On Jun 14, 2023
lawani:
As an individual, if you have assets or even an idea, you will be able to get loans. Dangote borrowed all the monies he used to build his refineries with no collateral. As a nation, if you have revenue, you will be able to borrow money against that revenue and that is why all nations are steeped in debt proportional to their revenue. Can you explain to me the advantage the US is using?. No institution is watched more closely by governments across the world than the US Federal reserve that controls dollar inflation and so far, the Chinese, Indians and etc are satisfied.
guy you just the burst my brain for this thread, like people for real , think the US just prints money anyhow...this same people will not watch news and think logically...
If they are printing money anyhow, then why do they have debt ceiling and all the issues around it ..
Foreign AffairsRe: Why Should Trade Between African Countries Be In Dollars - Ruto by Ertugrul: 6:16pm On Jun 14, 2023
lawani:
If all of Africa are using one currency, then they won't need the dollar for internal trade just like Europe does not but how much internal trade does Africa have?. Almost negligible!. For external trade, they would still need dollars because no other currency would suffice. If China were collecting income tax heavily like say the Japanese and have very low inflation, then their currency will be very attractive because the volume is large. The best currency that stores value best may be Norway's but the volume in circulation is negligible. What applies to China applies to India. The only real challenge to the dollar is the Euro as the economy is also large and inflation low. However you have to choose only one forex unit as using multiple currencies will be a headache. Ask a nearby importer. Even the Chinese will choose the dollar not to talk of Indiana because it makes trade easy for them. The US does not need the advantage to be rich. Japan, Norway, Germany etc don't have any such advantage and they are as rich if not richer. Infact many people in the US complain that inflation in the US would not have been so high if not that they are printing dollars to satisfy international markets. They complain that liquid assets of portfolio investors in the USA depreciate faster because of dollar inflation and US citizens have no other issued currency. Even if Africa has one currency, the Chinese will not likely collect that currency from them. They will demand for dollars. I think eventually the US themselves will do something about the unfortunate situation in which they have found themselves but for now there is practically no option for importers and exporters and importing and exporting is a private affair of importers and exporters. Not that of government.
God bless you
Foreign AffairsRe: Why Should Trade Between African Countries Be In Dollars - Ruto by Ertugrul: 6:13pm On Jun 14, 2023
Quintopia:
THIS IS WHAT I’VE BEEN TELLING NIGERIANS. THE REST OF AFRICA IS MOVING AWAY FROM THIS OYINBO WORSHIP THAT THEY DO IN NIGERIA.

THIS IS NOW A MULTI POLAR WORLD WITH THE RISE THE RISE OF CHINA AND THE BRIC NATIONS.

SOME OF THESE AFRICAN NATIONS NOW HAVE MILITARY AGREEMENTS WITH CHINA, AS IN CHINA GUARANTEEING MILITARY ALLIANCE IN THE EVENT OF WESTERN THREATS.

AND WHERE CHINA GOES, THE BRICS NATIONS GO TOO.

SO AFRICAN GOVERNMENTS ARE OPENLY CONDEMNING WESTERN GOVERNMENTS AND THEIR POLICIES IN AFRICA. IT’S ALL OVER YOUTUBE. KAGAME, MUSEVENI, AKUFFO ADO, AND OTHERS.

IN NIGERIA THEY ARE STILL WORSHIPING USA, UK, and all these imperialist exploiters if Africa.

When they see Nigerian leaders meeting with western leaders, they see it as great and positive.

HOPE THEY WAKE UP.
stop fooling yourself with this brics of a thing....you are overhyping brics, brics is not a military alliance, so how do u expect it to challenge NATO, china and india have long-standing border issues, india is among USA led Quad, involving Japan and Australia....will Brazil enter a military alliance with Russia and China? Are u okay? Abeg which African countries have signed alliance with China....and is there any invasion threat from the west? So what exactly will china send troops for? To quell rebellion or protest? If there's a war, does China have the logistics to supply and resupply troops in Africa?
Countries in Africa take advantage of china by buying weapons from Beijing, there's no military Alliance anywhere...
Some of you people are just so daft, to think that with China heavily involved economically in Africa, that they do not have stained hands in some of Africa's issues...
Foreign AffairsRe: Why Should Trade Between African Countries Be In Dollars - Ruto by Ertugrul: 5:59pm On Jun 14, 2023
Jahwinaboy:
I slightly disagree with you on this one. Africa is gradually becoming a global player. Why this second scramble for Africa? Russia, China, etc all have renewed interest in Africa. Imagine Africa Aligning with Russia and China. The West influence will massively reduce. Bomb Africa? We got Africans in USA, France, England and all over the world watching. It's just a matter of time. Although African leaders are spineless
why should Africa align with Russia and China, a multi-polar world order is on the cards, African countries should seek to balance the two blocs for our own interests... exactly what india and many asian countries are doing
Foreign AffairsRe: Why Should Trade Between African Countries Be In Dollars - Ruto by Ertugrul: 5:53pm On Jun 14, 2023
tsdarkside:
you civilized them and not the other way around....

information is free on the internet today....its not hidden like before....
Abeg how did Africa civilize Europe, what are u even talking about...
The greatest state ever in Africa by Africans was the ancient Egyptian empire, its civilization had great influence in the middle east...the ummayd caliphate that conquered the iberians region of Europe was arabs, yes at its peak , there was great influence by arabs in the world, would u call the ummyad caliphate an African civilizations? After the fall of the ummyad, the indeginous berbers of north Africa took over the iberian region...and it is important to note that the Roman, greek, empires had already existed centuries before the arabs...so how exactly did Africa civilize europe...
Foreign AffairsRe: Why Should Trade Between African Countries Be In Dollars - Ruto by Ertugrul: 5:49pm On Jun 14, 2023
Rubbiish:
Long overdue age wise, but intelligence wise, zero! We lack the intelligence as a continent. Even Almighty China & Russia are still struggling fighting USD as official world trade currency, let alone Africa.
You are very intelligent boss, we are lacking intelligent wise, challenging dollar hegemony without a central currency is not feasible...
Foreign AffairsRe: Why Should Trade Between African Countries Be In Dollars - Ruto by Ertugrul: 5:47pm On Jun 14, 2023
Quintopia:
STUPID COLONISED SLAVE. THIS IS THE INFERIORITY COMPLEX WE ARE TALKING ABOUT HERE, THAT IS SO RAMPANT IN NIGERIA.

THE RACIST, COLONIAL LIE THEY DRUMMED IN YOUR HEAD ABOUT BEING “UNINTELLIGENT”.

PEOPLE WHOM YOUR ANCESTORS CIVILIZED.

DON’T GO AND RESEARCH YOUR AFRICAN HISTORY.

IGNORANT, STUPID MORO.N.
Your own stupidity is even supreme, you have been ingesting propaganda from all the black african pages on social media, who civilized who abeg? Fact remains africans have a problem today with creating and managing states...even in the past, look around you , with the exception of ancient Egypt, how many exceptional states can be found in Africa before the European Invasion...
Accept your shortcomings and see how u can learn from them and improve for tomorrow...
Foreign AffairsRe: Why Should Trade Between African Countries Be In Dollars - Ruto by Ertugrul: 5:43pm On Jun 14, 2023
tsdarkside:
exactly....it means many of his own people were not happy with him....
he drove his own people to support nato with his mindless actions....

he should have just stepped down and allow heads to cool down and contest later in a democratic way like buhari....
Exactly, the sad thing about most dictatorship is that they do not have a strong political system, everything just revolves around one man, and such power drunk person will only want to relinquish power when death comes or to family..... majority of the libyans were fed up with him, his oppression of the non-arabs was too much and the arabs themselves eventually got fed up with gaddafi... people today just like to demonize west without trying to look inwards and see the wrongdoings of Gaddafi..same people will label bashar assad a hero if the rebels had defeated him...
My question to them remains, if Libya was an el dorado, why did the people revolt....
Foreign AffairsRe: Why Should Trade Between African Countries Be In Dollars - Ruto by Ertugrul: 4:49pm On Jun 14, 2023
tsdarkside:
gaddafi did a mistake himself....

he should have just let go....
Exactly or better still , avoid the lethal use of force in suppressing the protest, for people to pick up arms in a civilian revolt, it means the people have been pushed to the wall...
Foreign AffairsRe: Why Should Trade Between African Countries Be In Dollars - Ruto by Ertugrul: 3:09pm On Jun 14, 2023
It is obvious how black people no really get sense, see all the yeye comments on this post, quoting gaddafi, so nato killed gaddafi because he wanted to challenge dollar supremacy? And u want to blindly ignore the fact that Libyans and were tired of dictatorship...was it the west that spooked the Libyans to pick up arms? If Libya was heaven on earth, why did the people revolt, people with sense will be saying that everything was free in Libya and think that is a workable economic model...
China , Russia and co has been trying for years to challenge dollar hegemony and they have been unsuccessful, and it's gaddafi that would have done it, replacing the dollar is no easy , especially if u will not have a single currency to replace it with, except the african union decide to float a new currency, this whole talk is garbage...even brics and for all their barking, if they dont float a new currency, its gna be all bullshit... blame the west for everything, yet fail to look inward...all of a sudden, gaddafi is now a saint...rubbish

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