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Religion / Re: Human Beings Are Born Sinners by estheragha: 4:40am On Jun 22, 2022
Kobojunkie:
1. Wrong! They do not mean the same things in any way or form. undecided

2. Jesus Christ never said what you claim there at all. Becareful to remove your personal delusions from that which was said by Jesus Christ Himself.. undecided

3. Again, we are not born with the seed of sin as you claim. A good counter to that idea is Abel. He was born of Adam yet made righteous choices. undecided

4. Again, this does not line up with Jesus Christ's own explanation of what it means to be born-again. He is the one who used and explained the term in John 3 vs 1 - 8, isn't He? undecided

4b. Your claims contradict scripture.. undecided

5. These claims of yours have no bearing in scripture at all. undecided


If Adam is a sinner, then how can Abel not be a sinner? You know nothing. Everyone became an automatic sinner due to Adam. We inherited sin from Adam, are you so hard of hearing and so devoid of understanding?

Romans 5:12
[12]Therefore, just as through one man sin entered the world, and death through sin, and thus death spread to all men, because all sinned—

As described in Mark 7:21 and onwards, everyone has the same twelve sins that proceed from his heart. First of all, one’s evil thoughts are a sin before God. And murder, adultery, theft, covetousness, wickedness, pride, and foolishness are all sins as well. The evil thoughts that are in people’s hearts are the real sources of sin that offend the holiness of God. Even though God made Adam in the likeness of His image as an eternal creature, Adam sinned against God, and as a result of this, all of us Adam’s descendants were also born as sinners, unable to escape from God’s condemnation. Because we were all born as the first man Adam’s descendants, it is in our inherent nature to commit nothing but sin and offend the holiness of God, both in our thoughts and actions; and therefore we cannot help commit sin until the day we die. Indeed, all human beings are fundamentally evil in their thoughts by nature, and they are also fragile beings easily deceived by Satan who continually challenges God’s holiness. God said that nothing but evil thoughts proceed from the human heart. Every human being is indeed exposed as a depraved sinner filled with the twelve kinds of sins listed in Mark chapter 7, from murder to adultery, theft, covetousness, fornications, foolishness, and so on. Everyone’s fundamental human nature is filled with evil thoughts. And countless people are challenging the holiness of God with their own religious piety. So we all had to be condemned by God for our sins without fail.


However, just like Abraham, everyone can become righteous due to FAITH in the word of God, in the gospel of being born of water and Spirit.
Explain
Romans 4:9
"For we say that FAITH was accounted to Abraham for righteousness."
Religion / Re: Human Beings Are Born Sinners by estheragha: 8:08am On Jun 19, 2022
Kobojunkie:
1. Again, Sin is transgression of God's Law and commandments but Righteousness has to do with being right with God aka not cursed or unholy etc. undecided

Paul's supposed claim in Romans 3 aside, the scriptures he referenced which are attributed to David - Psalm 14 vs.1-7 and Psalm 53 - never in fact posit that all are sinners. David instead spoke that Psalm in reference to non Jews aka Gentiles clazzifuing them as unrighteous, not sinners. undecided

2. Being born-again does not bestow righteousness in Jesus Christ on anyone - man or woman. Instead what it means to be born-again, this as explained by Jesus Christ, is that one gains entry into the Kingdom of God, God's New Covenant - John 3 vs 5 - 8, either through the Broad gate that leads to Hell or the narrow gate that leads to Heaven - Matthew 7 vs 13 - 14. Yes, those who will end up in Hell are also born-again, this according to Jesus Christ. So unless you mean righteousness will exist in Hell, I suggest you begin digesting scripture with both eyes and mind open.. undecided




Romans 3:22-23
For there is no difference; for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,

Sinful, unrighteous, unholy, sinners all mean the same thing and Sinless, righteous, holy all mean the same thing.
The word sin, (hamartia)’ in ancient Greek, means to ‘miss the mark.’ In other words, it is to do something wrong. It is a sin to disobey God’s orders. However what’s the most serious sin? It’s to disregard/ignore the Word of God and not believe in it.


Mark 7:20-23, “And He said, ‘What comes out of a man, that defiles a man. For from within, out of the heart of men, proceed evil thoughts, adulteries, fornications, murders, thefts, covetousness, wickedness, deceit, licentiousness, an evil eye, blasphemy, pride, foolishness. All these evil things come from within and defile a man.’”
Jesus said that people are DEFILED sinners because they are born with sin. Do you understand what this means? We are born as sinners because we are all Adam’s descendants. But we cannot see the truth because we neither accept nor believe in all of His Words.

Jesus said that what comes out of a human being, the sins within, defiles him/her. We are born with the seeds of sin already inside our hearts due to ADAM. That is why we bear the fruit of sin and commit sin. Just like an apple tree bear the fruit of apple, human being are likened to sinful trees that bear the fruit of sin.
Romans 5:12
Therefore, just as through one man sin entered the world, and death through sin, and thus death spread to all men, because all sinned—


Secondly,
Born again means ‘to be born the second time.’ A human being ist born as a sinner is born again and becomes righteous when he/she is saved spiritually by believing in the baptism of Jesus and His Cross. We can spiritually be born again by believing in the baptism and the blood of Jesus. The born-again are those who have been washed of all their sins and “who eagerly wait for Him He will appear a second time, apart from sin, for salvation” (Hebrews 9:28).


To be born again and to be saved means the same thing. However, there are many who do not know this truth. To be born again means that the sin in one’s heart has been washed away through belief in the gospel of the water and the Spirit. It means to become righteous through faith in the baptism of Jesus and His sacrifice on the Cross.

Before being born again, people are sinners, but after, they are completely without sin literally, born again as a new person. They have become a child of God by believing in the gospel of salvation. Being born again means wearing the clothes of the baptism of Jesus, dying on the Cross with Jesus, and being resurrected with Him. It means that one has become righteous through the words of the baptism and the Cross of Jesus. When one is born from the womb of one’s mother, he is a sinner. But when he has heard the true gospel of being born again of water and the Spirit, he is then born again and becomes righteous.

Romans 5:19
[19]For as by one man’s disobedience many were made sinners, so also by one Man’s obedience many will be made righteous.


Is your name written in the book of life?Do have an idea of after death where you'll go?hell or heaven?And remember that nothing defiled will enter heaven.Not even one soul will enter heaven if it is defiled/has sins.Revelation 21:27 says,Revelation 21:27
[27]But there shall by no means enter it anything that defiles, or causes an abomination or a lie, but only those who are written in the Lamb’s Book of Life.

For more information visit:www.bjnewlife.org

Religion / Re: The Meaning Of The Original Gospel Of Being Bornagain by estheragha: 7:05pm On Jun 18, 2022
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Religion / Re: Human Beings Are Born Sinners by estheragha: 7:00pm On Jun 18, 2022
Let’s say there are two men we can be compare to two glasses full of filthy liquid. Both glasses are full of sin. One looks at himself and says, “Oh, I am such a sinful person.” Then, he gives up and goes to find someone who can help him. But the other one thinks that he is not really evil. He cannot see the mass of sin within himself and thinks that he isn’t so sinful. All his life, he keeps on wiping up the spills. He wipes up one side, and then the other side...quickly moving over to the other side....

There are so many who carefully live their lives, trying to have as little sin as possible, to avoid spilling it over. But since they still have sin in their hearts, what good does it do? Being careful will not lead them any closer to Heaven. ‘Being careful’ puts them on the road to hell instead. Dear friends, ‘being careful’ only leads to hell. We should take this lesson to heart.

When people are careful, their sins may not spill over as much, but they are still sinners. What is in the heart of humanity? Sin? Immorality? Yes! Evil thoughts? Yes! Is there theft? Yes! Arrogance? Yes! We cannot help but admit to the fact that we are masses of sin, especially when we see ourselves act sinfully and wickedly, without being taught to do so. It may not be as evident when we are young. But how is it, as we get older? As we go to high school, college, and so on, we come to realize that all that we have inside us is sin. Is this not true?

Honestly speaking, it is impossible to hide our sinful natures. Correct? We cannot help but to spill sin. We then regret, “I shouldn’t do this.” However, we find it impossible to truly change. Why is that so? Because each of us is born as a mass of sin.
Religion / Re: Human Beings Are Born Sinners by estheragha: 6:59pm On Jun 18, 2022
Kobojunkie:
1. David was born a Jew, bound to God's Old Covenant and Constitution to the Nation of Israel in the Land of Israel, so he was a subject to God's Law from his birth, unlike Gentiles who are not born bound to any of God's Law and hence unable to transgress a Law they are not under.

1a. Now if we are to process what David said in Psalms 51 vs 5 there to mean that all Jews are born sinners from their birth, then what you are insinuating is that even Jesus Christ was Himself born a sinners hence the many accounts, even by the prophets, that He did not sin, are nothing but lies. So, was David speaking of something else entirely or are all Jews Born sinners under God’s Old Covenant Law? undecided

1b. Something else to consider is what God said of sinners in Ezekiel 18 vs 1 - 33 and Ezekiel 33 vs 9 - 20, " The soul that sins must die...". Nowhere in all that passage did God suggest sin had to do with being born. Instead, God clearly associated sinning with transgressing of His direct commandments and statutes to the people. So, if we are to assume Jewish children born sinners in to this world, then what law do we directly transgress by being born? undecided


2. God's Law, Jesus Christ, applies only to those who believe in Jesus Christ. Those who don't believe in Jesus Christ are not bound by anything Jesus Christ decreed or commanded this since Jesus Christ taught and spoke to those who belonged to the Kingdom of God aka those who are born-again - John 3 vs 5 - 8. So, my question here to you is, are babies concerned born-again from their mother's womb? undecided

Jesus Christ already gave you the answer in John 3 vs 5 - 8 but I am interested in what you have to say. undecided


Romans 3:9-12
[9]What then? Are we better than they? Not at all. For we have previously charged both Jews and Greeks that they are all under sin.
[10]As it is written: “There is none righteous, no, not one;
[11]There is none who understands; There is none who seeks after God.
[12]They have all turned aside; They have together become unprofitable; There is none who does good, no, not one.”

Every human being( both Jews and Gentiles) is ist born as an unrighteous sinner and needs to be born again, born a second time spiritually, as a righteous inorder to enter the kingdom of heaven.

Romans 5:18-19
[18]Therefore, as through one man’s offense judgment came to all men, resulting in condemnation, even so through one Man’s righteous act the free gift came to all men, resulting in justification of life.
[19]For as by one man’s disobedience many were made sinners, so also by one Man’s obedience many will be made righteous.
Religion / Re: Awesome Free E- Books Available by estheragha: 6:55pm On Jun 18, 2022
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Religion / Re: Human Beings Are Born Sinners by estheragha: 5:06pm On Jun 17, 2022
Kobojunkie:
This belief is not scriptural as sin is instead transgression/disobedience of God's Law/commandments. Those born of Gentiles are born unbound to God's Law meaning they have no way of transgression Law which is not available to them by birth, it is unscriptural to claim they are born sinners from birth. undecided

Now, though not born sinners, they are however born cursed by God aka of this world(unholy) and so not of God as result. Meaning each person is born a son of man and would need to make the decision to seek God and His Kingdom(and righteousness) through Jesus Christ, God's New Covenant Law and Truth in the Kingdom of God. undecided


Psalms 51:5
Behold, I was brought forth in iniquity, And in sin my mother conceived me.

Human indeed are conceived and born as defiled/ unclean sinners with 12 kinds of sin already existing in their hearts.

Mark 7:20-23 > “And He said, ‘What comes out of a man, that defiles a man. For from within, out of the heart of men, proceed evil thoughts, adulteries, fornications, murders, thefts, covetousness, wickedness, deceit, licentiousness, an evil eye, blasphemy, pride, foolishness. All these evil things come from within and defile a man.’”
Religion / Re: Human Beings Are Born Sinners by estheragha: 11:55pm On Jun 16, 2022
Indeed!

Religion / Re: Awesome Free E- Books Available by estheragha: 11:40pm On Jun 16, 2022
live4dgospel:
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Religion / Re: Christianity Has Lost The Light by estheragha: 5:07pm On Jul 19, 2019
Deuteronomy 32:2 Let my teaching drop as the rain, my speech distill as the dew, as raindrops on the tender herb, and as showers on the grass.

Religion / Re: Christianity Has Lost The Light by estheragha: 1:47pm On Jul 13, 2019
Ephesians 5:14 Therefore He says: "AWAKE, you who sleep, arise from the dead, and Christ will give you light."

Religion / Re: The Biblically Estimated Time Of Rapture : Mid -tribulation by estheragha: 1:20pm On Jul 13, 2019

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXfG8amiFTE

Matthew 5:13 "You are the SALT of the EARTH; but if the salt loses its flavor, how shall it be seasoned? It is then good for nothing but to be thrown out and trampled under foot by men.

HAVE CHRISTIANITY NOT REALLY LOST ITS SALT?

Matthew 5:14 "You are the LIGHT of the WORLD.

HAS CHRISTIANITY NOT LOST ITS LIGHT?

BECOMING BROTHERS AND SISTERS, IE, ONE WITH OTHER RELIGIONS?
WHEN THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO BE THE LIGHT OF THE WORLD, CONVERTING AND LEADING THE WORLD TO CHRIST?

Ephesians 5:14 Therefore He says: "AWAKE, you who sleep, arise from the dead, and Christ will give you light."
Religion / Re: The Biblically Estimated Time Of Rapture : Mid -tribulation by estheragha: 10:16am On Jul 13, 2019
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11VH9ILIPaE]


AND EVENTUALLY THE WORLD WILL UNIFY TO PAVE THE WAY FOR THE REIGN OF THE ANTI-CHRIST.

Mark 13:31 "Heaven and earth will pass away, but My words will by no means pass away.
Religion / Re: If You Finish Reading This Book Darkness Will Recede by estheragha: 10:05pm On Jun 25, 2019

Religion / Re: Are Demons Not Really Feeding On You? by estheragha: 9:58pm On Jun 25, 2019
live4dgospel:

Here's a brief description of the gospel of the water and the Spirit.

It is written in (John 3:5)
"Jesus answered, “Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God."
Again in (1 John 5:6)
"This is He who came by water and blood—Jesus Christ; not only by water, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit who bears witness, because the Spirit is truth."

Amen
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Religion / Re: There Is Only This One Gospel by estheragha: 8:41pm On Jun 25, 2019
what really is the gospel?

Religion / Re: The Biblically Estimated Time Of Rapture : Mid -tribulation by estheragha: 11:23am On Jun 23, 2019
And let him who thirsts come. And whoever desires, let him take the water of life freely. " (Revelation 22:17)

Religion / Re: Christianity Has Lost The Light by estheragha: 11:22am On Jun 23, 2019
And let him who thirsts come. And whoever desires, let him take the water of life freely. " (Revelation 22:17)

Religion / Re: The Theory Of Pre-tribulation Rapture Is False. by estheragha: 11:22am On Jun 23, 2019
And let him who thirsts come. And whoever desires, let him take the water of life freely. " (Revelation 22:17)

Religion / Re: Who Is A Heretic Before God? by estheragha: 11:21am On Jun 23, 2019
And let him who thirsts come. And whoever desires, let him take the water of life freely. " (Revelation 22:17)

Religion / Re: The True Meaning Of Jesus' Baptism by estheragha: 11:21am On Jun 23, 2019
And let him who thirsts come. And whoever desires, let him take the water of life freely. " (Revelation 22:17)

Religion / Re: Jesus Saved You, Not Only With His Blood, But With Both His Baptism And Blood! by estheragha: 11:20am On Jun 23, 2019
And let him who thirsts come. And whoever desires, let him take the water of life freely. " (Revelation 22:17)

Religion / Re: Our Sins Have Been Washed Away By Believing In The Genuine Gospel by estheragha: 11:19am On Jun 23, 2019
And let him who thirsts come. And whoever desires, let him take the water of life freely. " (Revelation 22:17)

Religion / Re: Our Sins Have Been Washed Away By Believing In The Genuine Gospel by estheragha: 8:14pm On Jun 22, 2019
Deuteronomy 32:2 Let my teaching drop as the rain, my speech distill as the dew, as raindrops on the tender herb, and as showers on the grass.

Religion / Re: Jesus Saved You, Not Only With His Blood, But With Both His Baptism And Blood! by estheragha: 8:06pm On Jun 22, 2019
Deuteronomy 32:2 Let my teaching drop as the rain, my speech distill as the dew, as raindrops on the tender herb, and as showers on the grass.

Religion / Re: The True Meaning Of Jesus' Baptism by estheragha: 8:05pm On Jun 22, 2019
Deuteronomy 32:2 Let my teaching drop as the rain, my speech distill as the dew, as raindrops on the tender herb, and as showers on the grass.

Religion / Re: Who Is A Heretic Before God? by estheragha: 7:59pm On Jun 22, 2019
Deuteronomy 32:2 Let my teaching drop as the rain, my speech distill as the dew, as raindrops on the tender herb, and as showers on the grass.

Religion / Re: The Theory Of Pre-tribulation Rapture Is False. by estheragha: 7:54pm On Jun 22, 2019
Deuteronomy 32:2 Let my teaching drop as the rain, my speech distill as the dew, as raindrops on the tender herb, and as showers on the grass.

Religion / Re: Christianity Has Lost The Light by estheragha: 7:52pm On Jun 22, 2019
Deuteronomy 32:2 Let my teaching drop as the rain, my speech distill as the dew, as raindrops on the tender herb, and as showers on the grass.

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