Jaqenhghar:

Brother dont waste you breath trying to show them the way. Even Bill Gates who tried to tell them they insulted him calling him a school drop out

My brother, Nigerians have empty brains and that is why we are underdeveloped.


Is just that sometimes we talk not because of them but because of guests that do come online to learn.

Again, I agree with you that sometimes we should not waste our time with those that can't learn.

Daejoyoung:

The truth is Nigeria already have many entrepreneual citizens and the basis for a good private sector, we are 180 million people, these countries are small but also have corrupt African leaders impeding growth e.g Togo and Cameroon. lvorycoast and Benin republic would have to free themselves from the cfa currency and the shackles of Frances.

Take note based on real observation.


Nigeria don't have sufficient entrepreneurs.


Why do you think that Nigerians are the largest refugees in Europe from a country that is not experiencing war.


Let's take Buhari for example


How many people has Buhari given business grants worth #3m to start up a business with.?



Also, do you know why many people migrate to Lagos if truly they are lots of entrepreneurs.?



My brother, it takes more than infrastructure to develop a country.

SoNature:


Oga, stop making a baseless argument

Even the education you are talking about falls under infrastructure
Infrastructure is a broad concept

Students won't learn under the tree or without classrooms...lab and the rest

That aside, I believe that Nigeria’s biggest problem is weak institutions

If Nigeria was configured for people in power to have limits, we wouldn't be where we are

Look how they are probing a sitting president in the US

If our institutions are not strong, Nigeria will always remain a joke

Yes, Nigeria is a joke

Let start with this question below to enable you see the light


Why are African nations like Togo, Benin, Ivory Coast, Cameroon, Ghana etc not doing fine despite having steady light, good roads etc.?

Daejoyoung:

Government must play their part as well by providing some basic necessities such as power, effective transport system across the nation, a good broad brand, etc. These things aid businesses and even the ease of doing business.

Do you think Govt can provide all the infrastructure needed in a society.?


Do you know how many infrastructures can be built if Govt help to nurture more Nigerians to become Dangotes.?



I asked a question about African countries with good infrastructures that are not doing fine and you are yet to tell me why that are not doing fine.

Iamgrey5:
You need to pick up your secondary school textbooks on economics and study economic growth & Development

I promise, you will thank me later

Why is Togo, Benin, Ivory Coast, Cameroon etc not doing fine despite having steady light, good roads etc.?


Do a research on this question and you understand that that guy Jaqenhghar is right.

Daejoyoung:

l am not a zombie, but what you wrote up there is pure bullshit. You need infrastructure such as power, rails, good roads, mass housing, health and educational facilities to grow the economy and also the people ( the middle class and the poor especially).

Why is Togo, Benin, Ivory Coast, Cameroon etc not doing fine despite having steady light, good roads etc.?


Can you give us an answer.


Jaqenhghar

GavelSlam:


Stop asking me to watch a documentary that has no relevance to our society.

A society in which people still wash Ebola away with salt water or believe prayer and fasting would bring change.

Are you suggesting if i go through your posts I would not find how you've criticised the slow pace on infrastructure?

You guys need to be consistent in your argument.

Are you saying you don't lament the decay in infrastructure in this country?

Are you suggesting government abandon them and build only schools and hospitals?

No theory, and no vague suggestions.

Hit the nail on the head and itemize how it would be done.

You are always shouting infrastructure without seeing the real problem.


Why is Togo, Benin, Ivory Coast, Cameroon etc not doing fine despite having steady light, good roads etc.?


Without Technical Education and Business Grants, even if a nation has 24hrs electricity, good roads etc, industrialization that leads to job creation might not be achieved.

This is a basic fact you guys don't understand.
Nigeria should focus more on Technical Education and Business Grants while not neglecting infrastructural development.



Jaqenhghar

SoNature:


Your Number 3 contradicts your assertion

Infrastructure improves GDP, oga

If we have basic amenities, many people wouldn't be looking for jobs

Do you know the number of people who have closed shops and are now looking for jobs because we don't have steady power?

There's nothing wrong with a government borrowing to bridge the gap of infrastructure deficit

But any government that wants to borrow must spend the money judiciously and must have a repayment plan

Without Technical Education and Business Grants, even if a nation has 24hrs electricity, good roads etc, industrialization that leads to job creation might not be achieved.


This is a basic fact you guys don't understand.


Nigeria should focus more on Technical Education and Business Grants while not neglecting infrastructural development.

GavelSlam:


You guys just write rubbish in the bid to demean.

Tell us how you increase capacity without infrastructure?

How would you have efficient trade and commerce without rails, roads, electricity?

Watch the Men Who Built America if you truly seek answer to your question.


Start with the people first by giving them Technical Education and Finance in order to enable them build the wealth that will empower them to build quality infrastructures.


No Govt can build all the infrastructures needed by a society without the people getting involved in building the needed infrastructures through their own wealth.




Jaqenhghar

jomonic

SoNature ( Without Technical Education and Finance, even if a nation has 24hrs electricity, good roads etc, industrialization might not be achieved. take note SoNature)

Jaqenhghar:
I have never heard where infrastructure increased GDP in my life. The way it happens is
1. You build the capacity of your people.
2. The people create wealth and
3. Build infrastructure

Correct observation.

Jaqenhghar, can you pls provide me links/videos/books/etc you got this correct observation from so that I can add to my list of materials ( eg Men Who Built America, Visualpolitik, Caspianreport, PragerU, Financial times, etc )


jomonic.

T9ksy:



....and an equally discerning mind would ponder on the rational behind the killings of ibos ( in the northern region) in 1945 and 1953. However, in spite of all these killings, ibos did not ask to seceed from the union rather they were the ones singing the discordant song of One Nigeria among all the regions.

In fact, when self-rule came to the regions, ibos chose to wait for their killers up north before attaining self-rule for their people.

No be today, the north don dey slaughter ibos in their midst however the only difference was the fact that the killings in 1966 was after the ibos had sucessfully satisfied their dream of being in charge of the newly independent nation and the power and domination they dreamt off had swiftly filtered through their fingers.

Was Nigeria an independent country in 1945.?

vivaciousvivi:
You clearly have memory issue. Have yourself a goodnight

Here you go again without any proof of your accusation against me.

Mrs black man mentality.

vivaciousvivi:

This would make it the second time we would engage in constructive discussion which u end it by insulting me.
U did it last time, I called you out and you apologized.
I almost didn't want to bait you by responding to your mentions but I didn't want to look rude, more so people are supposed to learn from their mistakes.
But alas....
You can take your superior IQ argument and enjoy your evening sir.

I have never chatted with you before.


Check well Mrs black man mentality.

vivaciousvivi:

I dont need to supply evidence to anything dear.
Firstly the order is illegal as an illegal group does not have a right to give such an order in a State without the backing of the elected State governor.

Secondly, the law enforcement agencies do not need to ask permission from civilians before they take the initiative to protect the entire populace.

Let me stop here.

I thought you were properly educated but alas you just ended up like any other Nigerian who don't understand the idea behind self determination.


I will chat you up when you properly educate yourself on the United Nations laws and why the British never went on killing spree against the Scots in 2014 or Irish people after their 1916 uprising for independence.


Until then, keep thinking like typical Africans whom are known for their low IQ.

kayfra:
How about you do what you do best. Go to Malaysia, India, Thailand, Indonesia, and Cambodia to trade Cocaine and Meth

Typical reasoning of a Yoruba man.


No wonder except Lagos filled with non indigenous people, no other part of Yoruba land is doing fine.

vivaciousvivi:

Its a Sit at home order.
How is it a show of force by protecting those who legitimately refuse to be part of an order simply because they were unfortunate to live in that location?

Can you supply any evidence about past sit at home exercises that people were harassed by IPOB members.?

Nigerians are in trouble

vivaciousvivi:

I do think its in order.
Those who exercise their civic rights to freedom of movement, should be allowed to do so unencumbered and without fear

OK


To me, the order is senseless.

Finally, resolve the Biafran agitation through a referendum than show of force.

Corrinthians:
Here he goes again, looking down on Ebonyi people.

SMH.

You believe that guy is an Igbo.?


If you believe he is Igbo, then it means Buhari can easily fool you.

jomonic:


We really need money upfront to rebuild our infrastructure. Lack of infrastructure is a heavy burden to any business. We need good roads, electricity, rail lines, etc. Providing cash is a good idea but without infrastructure the quality of life is low and the cost of business is very high. The money I alluded to is to enable investment in rebuilding infrastructure of which we stand in great need.

My brother, it seems you don't understand what is happening in Igbo land.


Our youths can barely raise enough money for themselves let alone giving into a trust fund as suggested by you.


So, you have to empower them first so that they can be able to support such an idea.


As I speak to you, lots of our graduates are finding it difficult to get jobs or establish businesses.

Even cattle business which is highly profitable, is a no go area because of absence of funds from parents who can't support them because of absence of salaries and pensions.


Your idea is good but pls look at this perceptive I just told you.

Igbo woman rescued Nigerians from debt while Hausa Fulani man returned Nigerians back to debt.

Trunaijian:
I don’t know why Nigerian politicise everything yet they personally patronise foreign goods for their own use.
There is no way we can achieve major infrastructural feats without the help of those that have the capacity and expertise for the obvious reasons: we do not have the technical capacity and funds.

It is then normal for u to borrow for specific infastructural projects. It’s that simple. The onus is to ensure that the monies are actually used for these projects so that jobs can be created and economic growth achieved for repayment.

This is a good move. We need infrastructure to move forward and better our nation. There is no politics here.
Personally I’d rather borrow from Japan than China cus they are often open when it comes to BOT.

What is there in building a railway.?


The problem is that our leaders don't want to forfeit the money they plan to loot for public infrastructure.


So they try to steal our wealth and borrow to build infrastructure.



pls get the point

Juliusmalema:
Am not interested.....am a fulfilled engineer....


Moreover am no longer interested in biafra.

We know that you are a Yoruba man pretending to be Igbo.


We have your records already on ground.


Pls get out and allow brothers to deliberate on the way forward for their people.

gidgiddy:


Spain is not like Nigeria in governance and mindset, Catalonia and Basque are autonomous Regions of Spain. They control their resources, have fiscal responsibility and have Regional premier.

The only way Igbos can control their destiny is if they control their land and resources, not when they are under the total control of Abuja. Only free people can talk about escaping poverty trap.

I stand to be corrected.

The only resources not in our hands now are Oil & Gas in particular.

All other resources are within our hands and these resources are our Technological Ingenuity, Agricultural Resources, Etc.

Don't you think that we haven't found other ways to escape The Nigerian Poverty Trap while agitating for Biafra.


Example:


If we make a law that says that every company in Biafran land will not pay State & LGA taxes, if 90% of their employees are Biafrans etc, don't you think that a lot of companies will relocate to Biafran land in order to escape tax burdens as experienced in Lagos & Ogun States.?



What do you and jomonic think.?

jomonic:
We can set up a trust fund to contribute funds for development. Every working class, business man will be tasked to contribute at least N10000 every year. Assuming a population of 40m; 60% contribute will go a long way.

Instead of asking each person to give #10,000 every year, don't you think it is wise to first give our people the financial tools (business grants) to enable them generate enough wealth and then ask them through their businesses(depending on the size) to give a minimum of #5000 monthly to our various governments for development.


Example:


Imo State has about 5m people residing within her. If she is able to empower 3m people to open up 3m direct & indirect businesses that can give back the government #5000 monthly per business in the form of business tax, it will generate #15b monthly.




If in 10years time, out of that 3m businesses, we have 3000 businesses that can give the government #50m every month in the form of tax, it will amount to #150b every month from just only 3000 businesses.

With a tax revenue of over #150b every month, Imo State can achieve prosperity in the hands of wise leaders.

What do you & gidgiddy think.?

gidgiddy:
If you want Igbo land to progress, first think about getting Igbo land out of Nigeria. Nigeria is heading nowhere and Igbo land will head nowhere with it. Independence first then we can talk about progression

While we must keep the agitations on, it shouldn't stop us from finding ways to escape the Nigerian Poverty Trap.


Spain is like Nigeria in mindset & governance but the Catalonians & Basques have found ways to prosper in an unprosperous & future less Spain.


What do you & jomonic think.?

Igbo communities/state governments should:


1) create a company tax heaven through economic free trade zones in every LGA with a promise that they should; create more jobs, invest in socioeconomic amenities / R & D , help reduce our dependence on foreign products and help create platforms through which our natural raw materials can be processed into exportable products.


2) give yearly at least #30b as business grants to 10,000 graduates at a rate of #3m per graduate with a promise to give any graduate #30m in 10years time, if he or she is able to generate at least 10 jobs, pay staff income taxes and refund back to the government #6m before the end of 10years.

Genesis 47: 23 - 26
We can learn of how Joseph lifted the Egyptians out of poverty through this method.


3) Trim down the number of our civil servants by paying off the unwanted numbers at least #3m per unwanted civil servant, to go start up businesses with the same promise above in number 2 in order to motivate them to become the next set of Dangotes of the East.




Let's rub minds together and forward our ideas to various Igbo and Biafran groups for documentation and implementation so that whenever the good hearted ones amongst us rise to power, the ideas can be implemented.

DreamersVille24:


This is a lazy man's view and shortcuts never helped anyone in life.

The problem is our rulers fail to think long-term and the feeding bottle system where everyone goes cap in hand to Abuja for federal allocations.

If we are to get serious Nigeria has to undergo economic and fiscal restructuring. This will force states to be more ingenious and make them think of ways to generate revenue.

There's taxation, there's a lot of other untapped mineral resources. We can even go back to big time exportation of agricultural products including marijuana.

Wake up and smell the coffee!

The government do not need to depend so much on tax.


Government should create a company tax heaven through economic free trade zones in every state with a promise that they should; generate more dollar inflows through export, reduce more imports which eats up our foreign reserve, create more jobs, invest in socioeconomic amenities and R & D.


Government should then give yearly at least #300b as business grants to 100,000 graduates at a rate of #3m per graduate with a promise to give any graduate #30m in 10years time, if he or she is able to generate at least 10 jobs, pay staff income taxes and refund back to the government #6m before the end of 10years.



Watch visualpolitiks on Uruguay, China, etc to learn more.

Bibors:
The only reason for these senseless loans is to ensure that these countries don't support succession until their money is paid back and the source of the repayment is ironically in the region that must leave.

Why don't this government utilise the Abacha loot which is more than enough.

Correct your English from Succession to Secession.


You are always fond of making this same mistake.

Ehiscotch:
There is nothing wrong with borrowing, as long as it is used to finance capital projects.

We have to just come to terms with the fact that we do not generate enough to finance our capital projects.

Pls close your mouth and learn from my point below.

The government can grow our revenue to finance capital projects but the problem is that, for the government to grow our revenue through non oil and non tax sectors, the public officials will have to forfeit stealing the money meant to grow the revenue which is something most of them can't do.

damtan:
The best place to forget your sorrows is Nairaland. you must just laugh at some silly comments

Flesh and blood did not reveal this to you.

NL, the forum for upcoming comedians.

petsam11:


This got me ROTFL! Hahahahahahahahahaha!!! Bro like seriously you no well o! Lol!
Nairaland can make a very sad person laugh like a crazy person all day!

Now you understand why NL is popular.

Forum of comedians.