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Etinosa1234:
This thing.. I think say na only me notice am before oo

one of my brothers whether na Etrusen or edeyoung sef come catch am... He say, people wey view thread nor reach 5... How Tao likes come reach 15... Na that day I know that gal na desperate somebody

Kyase:
Leicester can't beat us na, even the season they were molesting those other EPL clubs, the failed to beat us...
So chill, and I think we are even going away, so na sure win

Kyase:
We never lost a game on boxing day

valirex:
Lol actually I don't blame him, it's painful being the bastard of a bastard, I feel his pains all we can do to help him insult his bastard father for giving birth to a bastard that will as well father bastards

Juliusmalema:
Akuko..

when and where?

Juliusmalema:
Not even interested in the meaning.

Same way we aren't interested in the acknowledgement.

Juliusmalema:
Acknowledgement mbok

gregyboy:
Tao11 is here, she won come change the topic with lies



Soon Balogunodua would appear

gregyboy:
Tao11 is here, she won come change the topic with lies



Soon Balogunodua would appear

gregyboy:
She is a very very obsessed bitch.....


She is just obsessed we bnin keep laying claims to victory over lagos which are family is from

That was the beginning of her obsession untill we beat her to every debate when she tried denial it, she got more obsessed and decide to pull our history down

But osamakwe ne, ni men rhie mwan

Ideadoctor:
you guys started it na Gregyboy, etinosa,valirex and other's, anyways am sorry if I insult your tribe, but please don't insult my tribe too,let be good boys

Ideadoctor:
your language is ugly,boring and unsexy,that is what I have been telling you since, please don't write to me with your language again

Ideadoctor:
tin won ba fe komi lede yi lofe mofi Ogun lakaye bura mi o ni ko,olorun gbo

Ideadoctor:
ede yin o sexy rara, koda ko tun pretty papa,won let komi lede yi kinmo,Ede buruku

Ideadoctor:
ede jakujaku wo lo ko kale bayi? she ponmo ni ede yin ni? oshe wa GI lenu bayi?

Ideadoctor:
gbe enu buruku soun omo ale oniro....why you too dey lie....them curse you?

Obalatule:
Don't you have shame at all?

Extension of empire kor!......What Bini didn't do at the peak of its influence you want to do on Nairaland

Bini influence is dead long ago, Mega tribes have been formed and consolidated and Bini is not one of them

Obalatule:
it's known that some stock of Igbos were resident in Bini during it's thriving years, why does it give you strong orgasms to hear some Igbos say they left from bini according to their recent oral history?

Do you know who the "igbanke" people are?

Obalatule:
Your inferiority complex didn't allow you to fully understand what the oral stories meant before you ran with it hoping to promote yourself from being a tribe of 20 people population

samuk:
These guys lack common sense.

Dr Nnamdi Azikiwe who's a native of Onitsha wrote about his Onitsha people migration from Benin, some nonentities who are not from Onitsha are upset with Benin for sharing it.

The people of Oguta in Imo state did a BBC documentary in Igbo language and told the entire world they migrated from Benin, one lowlife suffering from inferiority complex and not from Oguta is upset with the Benins for sharing it.

The Ikwerre of Rivers state lead by their number citizen, governor Wike made a broadcast to the world that they are not Igbo but people of Benin heritage, some Igbos are upset with the Benins.

There are people from all directions east, west, south and north of Benin that claim to have migrated from Benin for various reasons in the past.

It's not our fault that our ancestors built a great empire/kingdom that people are still identifying with over 100 years since it came to an end.

RedboneSmith:
There's something patently frustrating about you people's inability to follow an argument. Zik was never mentioned by me in the context of Oguta's traditions of origin.

Take an IQ test, all of you. And stop wasting my time.

See how I came in here to have a good laugh at TAO's detective skills, and the resident idiots managed to drag me into an utterly wasted round of lectures they lack the intellectual muscle to follow.

Obalatule:
Face your 20 Bini population, stop making a fool of yourself

RedboneSmith:
They all act like they don't see it. All of them that I have engaged. They will just troway face when you mention Zik's 1930s paper. Only to come back tomorrow and continue to argue with the autobiography from the 1970s.

valirex:
Am just hearing that name, I will do a little more research on that.
If they accept being Benins they're welcome but of they prefer to be identified as Igbos no prob

Etinosa1234:
Now as it is, it seems that my Yoruba friend obviously has no facts concerning the treaty he keeps shouting about. But must we keep being in the dark abt a treaty our friend here doesn’t know about?
As it stands, unless proven otherwise, of all the Europeans who visited benin city, there is no account that makes mention of a superior king in benin kingdom apart from the Omo n’oba n’edo. This casts first doubt at the spurious claims made by a certain Richard Arisco Osemwingie who parades himself as the ogiamen.
When the Europeans first came to benin,they were brought to the oba of benin who was perceived by all as the king and the owner of all the land. They were NOT brought to the ogiamen who himself resides in benin kingdom. This squashes the weak claim that the ogiamen is the superior of the land. When an prominent or international person visits a place, their first visit is the ruler of the land visited. From Ewuare who was visited by the first Portuguese explorer Ruy Sequeira in 1472 to the Ralph Moor who led the benin invasion. They all noted the Oba of benin as the superior leader of the land. Not a fake person that claims to be collecting rent and was satisfied with it for 800+ years. An early European account that talks about how the oba of benin is powerful says

The oba is so powerful that he can amass up to 10,000 soldiers in a day… This shows how powerful the oba was compared to a chief who is just trying to seek relevance today by claiming to have collected rent from the oba

Having debunked the first claim of the ogiamen being a superior to the oba of which he isn’t, we move to the next point to be broken
Now the first time the word ekiokpagha was heard was in Jacob Egharevba’s book titled “Short history of Benin” where he writes

^{The ogiamen was pursued and defeated at Ekiokpagha where he surrendered and made peace with the oba}

The build-up to this story was that prior to the coming of oranmiyan, Evian son of Eholo Nire was made an administrator of benin kingdom. When he got old, he tried to install his son Ogiamen Erebo as king. This angered the chiefs who went to ife to bring oranmiyan. Oranmiyan came and left his child eweka.
When Eweka came of age, he was made king by the uzama nihiron. This angered ogiamen who raised up an army to fight against the king. He lost, surrendered and made peace with the king. There is no other conflicting accounts other than the ones the liars are throwing around for the gullible ones like u to believe.
Point no 2; Debunked!!!!!!

Now we move to the next point.

In Benin, before the use of surnames in Africa, the benin had a way of tracing family lineage and origin. This was the use of family greeting .It was said to have been started by Ogiso Ogbomo
Every indigenous benin family have their own peculiar greeting. The ogiso descendants greet delaiso. The ogiamen greet laire (this shows they are descendants of eholo nire). The Iyase family greet lavbieze, The ero family greet lamosun, the Obas descendants greet lamogun and so on. So when u want to lie that the oba is surpressing the aborigines,u would have to tell us the difference between the aborigines and the foreigners in benin kingdom since u tend to believe in your stupidity cum ignorance.
Also, this family greeting have also come to point out that the Ogiamen is not a direct descendant of the Ogisos as opposed to what u believed mischievously.

Now having debunked another of ur weak claim as to who are the aborigines of benin, we move to the next lie

According to false claim by Richard the fake ogiamen, we get to the point where he said that the treaty put a demarcation on benin land at Ekiopagha while collecting rent from the leased land. The first question a sane mind will ask is

a) if the land sold was benin land, what was extent of the remaining land not sold thereby under ogiamen influence?

b)Are there any accounts oral or written abt the history of the ogiamen kingdom?

Sadly the answers to the question is simply weak, non-existent and false.
Presently, the ogiamen doesn’t have influence in their area in sakponba road talk less of the benin kingdom at large unlike the oba of benin… This trashes another weak claim that there was ever a demarcation at benin land

Now having said all this, how do they intend to sanction the oba for not obeying a false and non-existent treaty?.. maybe jneutron from far away osogbo can help lmao
Jneutron4000 u can call a friend if you wish

Valirex samuk areafada2 etrusen gregyboy