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valirex:
1. My loyalty is sworn to the Ọba, Aiguọbasimwen

2. I have read and heard tales of the story.

3. Olugbo of Ugbo has confirmed it. That's a Yoruba king that doesn't see the Ooni of a priest Higher than himself

4. I will simply debunk your claim and expose it. One of such claim is that Oba Erediauwa of blessed memory concocted the Ekelederan story whereas R E Bradbury in his field works in Benin from 1951-52 recorded the story of Ekelederan turned Oduduwa in his series: field notes Benin city and which is currently at the university of Birmingham. Publications from the likes of chief D U Edebiri, prince Edun Akenzua and Air Iyare in 70s on Ekelederan turned Oduduwa provoked the Yoruba historian Akinola and prompted him to undergo a fact finding mission in Benin which led to his publication titled the Origin of the Ewekas dynasty of Benin in 1976 and in page 28, 29, 34 of the book, him been Yoruba he did all he could to discredit the publications by chief Edebiri, prince Edun Akenzua, and Air Iyare including accusing them of shifting the goal post, and in trying to discredit Benins version he even went as far as putting words in the mouth of Oba Akenzua11 whom it's clear he never met but claimed that he met him and that claimed he told him what the Ihama of Ihogbe in Benin told him that Ekelederan is Ododuwa but that the Oba was suprise and asked him who told you that. But the fact remains that the Ihama of Ihogbe identified Oduduwa as Ekelederan but Akinolas pride and sentiments wouldn't let him investigate further but rather outrightly dismiss it even if it means to lie. And all these was even before the 80s.

please valirex how do you add dot(.) under those native letters

Ideadoctor:
yes o,I would certainly need them

another enslave clown to a lying master

Boxer007:
Na lie jor

keep quiet
if na tao talk am now e go be true
if you people believe in yours, good for you .

if we believe in ours, good for us


Una pride nor go let Una see road.
bunch of clown

TAO11:
I’m glad that you’ve just plainly admitted publicly to being unable to muster any meaningful reply.

Keep it up, boy.

I don't want reply to your comment because it is obvious that you are an unchange liar

and gregyboy seem to get along with you even in lies but I can't

that's why am leaving you to him


and to that clown that mentioned me earlier, I have just one word for you

keep on being an enslaved clown to a lying master

TAO11:
The manner in which your benightedness and cluelessness pushes you from thread to thread is soundingly staggering.

Anyways, in the video report below, many African-Americans of Edo ancestry trace their roots back to the Edo kingdom of Benin.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxDve0rwQbM

Yes, African Americans. Yes, the same people whose ancestors found themselves in the Americas via the Trans-Atlantic slave trade. Yes, they trace themselves back home to Benin kingdom.

Now I know your insecurity and defense mechanism would kick in to cause you to pretend to be unsure of how their Edo ancestors got enslaved and sold off in the first place. Lol.

Well, the testimony obtained from the Edos themselves by the late Professor R. E. Bradbury during his ethnographic survey of Benin kingdom is very telling in that regards.

Refer to the embedded image below (from page 112 of R. E. Bradbury’s “The Benin Kingdom and the Edo-Speaking Peoples of South Western Nigeria”, 1957) for some educating information in that regards:

www.nairaland.com/attachments/12815289_bca0e87c457845658417dc2c4adc4a37_jpeg_jpegcb02a2c075079f7291fc168ee37e91ea

Now, that you’ve found out how your people were enslaved and sold-off courtesy of the Yorubas, the difference you must now realize is that many Yorubas who were sold-off fought their freedom back home.

However all the enslaved Edos remained slaves in the Americas perpetually ad-infinitum.

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madam carry your lie go that side, you have nothing to say my dear

yorubas will always try to copy benin but it will always end in failure


na your weak ancestors sell edo people as slave ?

even your history says it is not sure of itself

Una only dey write because people say they were invaded

gregyboy can correct your mind on this slave case of yours

please attend to her gregyboy.

TheLionofLasigi:
I don't indulge inconsequential minorities.

oko mwen gho ta kpa ko !!!

samuk:
You are right, the reason I sometimes reply their lies is because of those who may genuinely seek real history because Nigeria schools no longer teaches history.

Imagine someone coming up with a reverse migration lies of Ezechima when everyone including Zik and his grandmother said Ezechima was from Benin.

the same ignorant people will also argue when told that Oguta in imo state are from Benin

it's not only onitsha that have claim Benin ancestry from the east

people shouldn't be arguing without consultation

just watch carefully somebody is about to argue with me now

just watch

samuk:
This one is still citing 2010 fabrications on the origin of the mythical Oduduwa when books from 1800s have always linked him to the middle east.

It's like Tao writing book full of lies today and forcing everyone to accept it even though there hundreds written over 100 years saying the mythical Oduduwa was from the middle east.

my bro it is advisable you ignore her because her argument is base on lies trying to claim mythical Oduduwa was an ife man

nothing more


they should use their strength to rescue their brothers in kwara because Benin will always be a waste of time for them.

Etinosa1234:
I am not on telegram

wow

Ideadoctor:
They got there as a result of the Atlantic slave trade that engulfed the whole of Africa, the slaves were not only Yoruba but other ethnic groups, but Yoruba culture has managed to survive, do you know why? (1) Yoruba culture is superb and dominating,the whites can testify to these, because even some whites has fallen in love with Yoruba culture (2) The Yoruba Slaves were wise and cunning, I have said it a lot of times that yorubas are very wise,instead of losing their religion to catholism as other slaves did, the


















Yoruba slaves syncretized their gods with the Catholic saints, and here they are today no longer slaves,and they are proud to be called sons and daughters of oduduwa, because they know of the past and present glories of the yorubas,meanwhile it was the yorubas that were selling themselves to Europeans during the wars period, Benin no fit,your fathers sees yorubas as gods unlike you their rebellious children, don't worry we would put you in your place on nairaland and in the real life

It is wise I leave you

Ideadoctor:
I know greyboy can lie but I think etrusen lie the best

my brother ask anyone that have lived in Benin about my explanation

am not lying

I think there is matter how hard I try to explain you will always remain same

so its needless i explain

Ideadoctor:
Mr man what do you mean?

I mean if the Yoruba in Brazil were originally there or were brought there
which one?

Ideadoctor:
Three gbosa for you there,see fat lie,olokun is now an Edo word,just like you claim oba is an Edo word, you know what,I surrender, na you get am,see as you twist am sotay he the thing come make sense,walahi you are superb,best liar ever,shior

thanks for the making sense, at least we agree on something

the word is an Edo word

if it's also a Yoruba word I have no problem with it

can we now have a little sense of understanding that all African tribe came in touch one way or the other and as it is now none is superior to the other?

Edeyoung:
https:///edeyong my telegram contact

have tried following the link to telegram but it is not working


please Etinosa123456 gregyboy samuk Davidnaze if you are on telegram please link up

the arms of government in Nigeria is too weak

they are like someone waiting to be controlled

mumu pipo

my guy Mr op

you bad sha


I know this is against the former thread that illegally
said otherwise

it just too shameful that some people can't verify news before they spread tribal fake news

am still looking for where them write am say tribal asset na crime

mtchww
thread closed
next!!!

the word olokun is and Edo word which have it absolute meaning in Edo language

in breaking down the meaning of olokun those that live in Benin can attest and deny to the fact that in Benin for example: the owner/seller of bread in bread is called Ole_ bread ( the "e" in ole is there because bread is sometimes called ebredi in Benin so "olo" sound can't come in because the first "e" in ebredi will remove the last "o" in olo to make proper sound of ole_bredi), the seller of fish is called ole_hen because fish is ehen in Benin ( what happened ole_bredi also play out here when pronouncing it).

the Olu_khunmwhun in ukhunmwhun is called that because he his the duke of ukhunmwhun ( so the "u"in olu is to make it sound well with ukhunmwhun thereby removing the original "o" sound in "olo"


the olo_ kaeben in Benin is called so because it refer to the Eben group ( so the "o" remain because it also start okaeben)

now to olokun, in Benin sea is called okun/ okun_amen. mystically or traditionally, it is believe that there is always a give being through which a particular thing exist so the binis believe that the being own/created etc the sea hence that was where the name originate

olo= owner/ keeper/ creator/

okun=sea

note that the last "o" in olo remain because okun started with "o".


learn more on Edo language and how letters are used using this link which is updated weekly


https://www.nairaland.com/6295144/learn-benin-language-online



I also saw people saying Edo use letters like un, mw, vw, etc so this keep wondering how those listed letters can start a word because am very much aware that those letters can only be found in the middle of a word. I think link will provide you with much information

Ideadoctor:
yeye boy, dey there,Yoruba has been using your anscenstor as slaves for long through the Benin royalty that pays homage to ife the home of 400 deities,your anscenstor were used to feed these deities sequentially, and the slavery continues with your generation, Today Yoruba's has overpowered and overshadowed you in all ways,we are respected everywhere, Brazil, Cuba,Caribbeans, Togo, Benin, Ghana,Trinidad, Haiti and USA, our culture had soared beyond the shores of Nigeria,can you imagine,your people pussy has been the most offered pussy in Nigeria, Libya, Italy and Arab Emirates, dey curse una

remind me again how did the Yoruba in Brazil got to be there

please

YauYamba:
Thank you for confirming that you are unable to muster any sensible reply.

replying you is a waste of time


continue elevating your 1900 stools

the mark of Benin kingdom has already been felt before your political birth


abeg tell your olosho ooni make he stop to dey look woman breast even the woman close to am dey shame.

YauYamba:
To be honest, I’m not sure what’s difficult to understand in the simple statement that:

Oba Eweka II wakes up every morning at dawn and proceeds to perform ritual supplications to (1st)The Ooni, (2nd)The Alaafin, (3rd)Himself, (4)Other Yoruba kings.

Oba Eweka II confessed this information to one of his European visitors, H. L. Ward-Price in the 1920s.

Do I have to type in Edo for you to understand that? I’m not so sure what’s so complex for you to understand in that.

No because, he must do a face-saving visit to other personalities in order to veil the purpose of his Ife visit.

This will make more sense with the video below.

Moreover, the Benin to Ife visit has remained consistently one-sided on ascension. It must always be the Benin king visiting (aka paying homage) on ascension.

Yes, and we know this from Omonoba Ewuare II’s visit.

This will also make sense with the video below.


Well, some of the things discussed is that the Omonoba needs to pay homage at Orun Oba Ado — the sire believed to have been a resting place of the decapitated heads of certain Benin kings.

Check out the following Channels Television news report of the homage-visit of Omonoba Ewuare II:

Go to time-stamp 0:24 to 0:34, and you would find the following words which will answer your foregoing two questions:

“...his first port of call is the palace of the Ooni of Ife, Oba Adeyeye Ogunwusi — where he also paid homage to all Benin kings believed to have been buried there.”


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZhU2AmpvJk

Peace!

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just another bloody liar

Erojepromise:
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so correct they always try to merge Edo with the yorubas that Edo migrated from the yorubas, bullshit!
They don't even know the history of the Benin kingdom...and how it started but when it come to linking up Edo with yorubas they come out in droves.
the thing is all the languages in Nigeria share similarities / have same meanings.
Edo language has a huge difference in language and culture in regards to the yorubas, l only see slight affiliations which all tribes in Nigeria share in one way or another...

Yoruba nor go ever learn because of too much pride

they are the problem of the south

helinues:
What's the meaning of Ibo to start with?

Oga northerner stop this your intended argument

to all Igbo around here don't mind this guy he is trying to cause argument among us

I hate instigated arguments please

jawalis:
who Else is on the same page with me?

it seem the in this picture was ashame of the ooni behavior

just look at her

TAO11:
Sharrrrrap, you deluded liar.

It has never happened and will never happen that an Ooni should visits the Oba of Benin on anscension.

Why must it always be the other way round?

Explain to me again why Oba Eweka II wakes up every morning at dawn and proceed to say supplication for the Ooni, the Alaafin, before himself, and then befor all other Yoruba kings??

Let’s hear your interesting and ingenious explanation as to why your Oba Eweka II always does that.

Remeber that he himself admitted that to the EUrOpEaN visitor H. L Ward-Price during his visit to the Oba in the 1920s.

am still finding it hard to understand your argument

is it only the ooni that these mentioned oba visit?


yes or no

was it the ooni they visited first immediately they ascended the throne?

yes or no


what was the words said in those meeting and response given ?

MSGAMBLE9:
One thing you dont know about Yoruba ppl is that they are very proud of thier Lineage, even those in Kogi, kwara, Cuba etc.

Wale speak Yoruba, huasa and igbo fluently buh always refers to himself as Edo-man.

He is a popular OAP and easily accessible on twitter and insta

May we live matter jaree!

my dear the Edo man he talking about is referring to the state ....Edo state.

nothing more

AreaFada2:
The problem I have with you people is that you guys want to be spoon-fed. I have done too much of that here since 2011. Move your ass dude and do some work.

Let me add another homework for you. The Ooni has to slaughter 7 black cows anytime he visits Benin City. Did you notice that he didn't go to Benin to pay dowry on his ex-wife Ms Zainab Obanor? A man that visits people in their houses and frequent birthday parties didn't go to pay bride price on his own wife, instead his father went. Before anyone offers another rubbish explanation that it is Yoruba culture to send their father to do it, I know better. They married from us. Though 95% went on to father kids all over the place, everywhere work took them, and the marriages broke down years later. Only to come begging later. That is another story.

The 7 black cows get why and we know why. I have long rubbished the excuse that it is because he will cross 7 hills and 7 rivers before reaching Benin City. Now tell me, when he gallivants to Brazil to see Yoruba descendants of people that sold themselves into slavery, how many hills and rivers are there before reaching Brazil? Does he kill 30 or 50 black cows before going to Brazil?

Ghostwon
Etinosa123456
Valirex
Gregyboy
Samuk
Sarah20A

this words go dey sound like bomb for their ear thinking how their woman breast looking ooni kill cows before going to Benin

them go soon start to give different excuse


the question remain

why the ooni nor dey kill the cows if he dey go another place?

MSGAMBLE9:
Are you saying he is from Akoko-Edo? Maybe a 39 years old man doesn't know his lineage then

have u check for what I ask u?



and for knowing of lineage

its possible he dont know his origin irrespective of age my friend.

but

this our proud Benin descendant called modupe knows her origin

even if her name sound Yoruba but her ancestral surname don't lie

MSGAMBLE9:
from Edo? What do you mean..Wale Ozolua is a confirmed Edo boy, both his mom and dad ( a lawyer) are Edo...he is the station manager of Beat fm ibadan not an obscure personality, just type the name on google pls

read my first answer again

MSGAMBLE9:
there is an OAP bearing Wale Ozolua (Beat fm) and no be intermarriage na Edo boy thru and thru

Oga check or ask question properly you will see that guy didnt get his name from Edo


or you can search for modupe ozolua then ask yourself who is oba ozolua to edo north people
and also what language is spoken in especially Akoko_ edo

before you now decide where this your OAP got his name from

TheLionofLasigi:
Ha the yorubas was a multi tribal group before it was united under the Oyo Empire... White, black or asian... nothing stops Yoruba from being part of an official language in Brazil, China or the United Kingdom. If you're not okay with that you can jump in the lake.

Oga keep quiet or better still

tell me when all yorubas were united under Oyo kingdom

you people should stop lying with your fake history and get you fact right before you come online to comment please


haha!!!!

Samishiba:
I'm not anti African. I only say the reality. Nigéria fake news yorubá is official language in Brazil. Just wrong translation. The only official language in Brazil is portuguese.
Do some research before you make yourself look like a dumbass.

they will never learn !!!!

just imagine this one claiming nonsense with his headline

even now after knowing that truth , they will still argue and lie about it just to prove that they correct even when they are wrong

some will even tell you that the yorubas there didn't get there as a result of slavery

tufiakwa!!!!

very low assumption mentality