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TenQ:
Allah did not speak of the sirat bridge in Quran 19:71-72 nor anywhere in the Qur'an : it's a shame you didn't know that

Allah says he will remove you from the fire while leaving the evildoers hobbling on their knees. Did you read about any bridge there?
This means that you ans the evil doers will be in hell fire before Allah removes you.

Check again!



Did I say the Qur'an says children will enter the fire!? When?

Your prophet Qutham Mohammed ibn Abdullah was the one who said so o!


Or he didn't say so?


You are on a hot seat and your best bet is to change the topic.

In the Light of the Trinity, Jesus can speak to the Father and the Holy Spirit can both speak to the Father and the Word.

Can you tell me why Allah recites the shahada in Quran 2:255?


Can you tell me who Allah and his angels pray to here for Mohammed?

Quran 33:56
إِنَّ ٱللَّهَ يُصَلُّونَ عَلَى ٱلنَّبِىِّ ۚ يَـٰٓأَيُّهَا ٱلَّذِينَ ءَامَنُوا۟ صَلُّوا۟ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلِّمُوا۟ تَسْلِيمًا

ShoeGetSize:
Polygamy isn't just a sin in the conventional sense, it is also a pretty stupid idea that is not workable.

TenQ:
There is no denying that unrighteous people should be in the fire.


My question is NOT about them. My question is about you righteous Muslims


So why would Muslims after all these righteousness still end up in the fire (even if it is temporarily)?
in Qur'an 19:71

This is my question!

Secondly,

You did not explain how a Muslim baby can go to the fire!

I am waiting.

Perhaps you should show me why and where in the Quran said Muslim kids will enter fire

TenQ:
So why would Muslims after all these still end up in the fire (even if it is temporarily)?

This is my question!

You did not explain how a Muslim baby can go to the fire! I am waiting.

Perhaps you should show me why and where in the Quran said Muslim kids will enter fire





Without adding anything of my own

Mat 24:4-15,21-26:
"And Jesus answered and said to them, Take heed that no man deceive you. For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many. And you shall hear of wars and rumors of wars: see that you be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet. For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places. All these are the beginning of sorrows. Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and you shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake. And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another. And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many. And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold. But he that shall endure to the end, the same shall be saved. And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness to all nations; and then shall the end come. When you therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoever reads, let him understand: ) … For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be. And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened. Then if any man shall say to you, See, here is Christ, or there; believe it not. For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall show great signs and wonders; so that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect. Behold, I have told you before. Why if they shall say to you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not."


John 5:22-29:
"For the Father judges no man, but has committed all judgment to the Son: That all men should honor the Son, even as they honor the Father. He that honors not the Son honors not the Father which has sent him. Truly, truly, I say to you, He that hears my word, and believes on him that sent me, has everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death to life. Truly, truly, I say to you, The hour is coming, and now is, when the dead shall hear the voice of the Son of God: and they that hear shall live. For as the Father has life in himself; so has he given to the Son to have life in himself; And has given him authority to execute judgment also, because he is the Son of man. Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice, And shall come forth; they that have done good, to the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, to the resurrection of damnation."

Mat 7:21-23:
"Not every one that said to me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that does the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in your name? and in your name have cast out devils? and in your name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess to them, I never knew you: depart from me, you that work iniquity."


The whole book of Revelation is an expose on the details of occurences at the end time presented in an allegorical manner for the wise.

Rev 20:10-15:
"And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever. And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them. And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works. And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. And whoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire."



The Book of Daniel for the wise

Dan 12:1-13:
"And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which stands for the children of your people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time your people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book. And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt. And they that be wise shall shine as the brightness of the firmament; and they that turn many to righteousness as the stars for ever and ever. But you, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased. Then I Daniel looked, and, behold, there stood other two, the one on this side of the bank of the river, and the other on that side of the bank of the river. And one said to the man clothed in linen, which was on the waters of the river, How long shall it be to the end of these wonders? And I heard the man clothed in linen, which was on the waters of the river, when he held up his right hand and his left hand to heaven, and swore by him that lives for ever that it shall be for a time, times, and an half; and when he shall have accomplished to scatter the power of the holy people, all these things shall be finished. And I heard, but I understood not: then said I, O my Lord, what shall be the end of these things? And he said, Go your way, Daniel: for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end. Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand. And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that makes desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days. Blessed is he that waits, and comes to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days. But go you your way till the end be: for you shall rest, and stand in your lot at the end of the days."



Tell me what Allah says in the Qur'an about the End time

TenQ:
Were you overloaded with end time narratives !?


You still have not answered why a devoted Muslim will first enter the fire?

TenQ:
So why would Muslims after all these still end up in the fire (even if it is temporarily)?

This is my question!

You did not explain how a Muslim baby can go to the fire! I am waiting.
So is Mattew deceiving you
If he said all that Mattew get sword mouth be that oo

Matthew 24:36 “Now concerning that day and hour no one knows—neither the angels in heaven, nor the Son—except the Father only


Mark 13:32 (HCSB) “Now concerning that day or hour no one knows—neither the angels in heaven nor the Son—except the Father.

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The sword of God should not be twisted like a sword by Mattew







Without adding anything of my own

Mat 24:4-15,21-26:
"And Jesus answered and said to them, Take heed that no man deceive you. For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many. And you shall hear of wars and rumors of wars: see that you be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet. For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places. All these are the beginning of sorrows. Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and you shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake. And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another. And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many. And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold. But he that shall endure to the end, the same shall be saved. And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness to all nations; and then shall the end come. When you therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoever reads, let him understand: ) … For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be. And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened. Then if any man shall say to you, See, here is Christ, or there; believe it not. For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall show great signs and wonders; so that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect. Behold, I have told you before. Why if they shall say to you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not."


John 5:22-29:
"For the Father judges no man, but has committed all judgment to the Son: That all men should honor the Son, even as they honor the Father. He that honors not the Son honors not the Father which has sent him. Truly, truly, I say to you, He that hears my word, and believes on him that sent me, has everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death to life. Truly, truly, I say to you, The hour is coming, and now is, when the dead shall hear the voice of the Son of God: and they that hear shall live. For as the Father has life in himself; so has he given to the Son to have life in himself; And has given him authority to execute judgment also, because he is the Son of man. Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice, And shall come forth; they that have done good, to the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, to the resurrection of damnation."

Mat 7:21-23:
"Not every one that said to me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that does the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in your name? and in your name have cast out devils? and in your name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess to them, I never knew you: depart from me, you that work iniquity."


The whole book of Revelation is an expose on the details of occurences at the end time presented in an allegorical manner for the wise.

Rev 20:10-15:
"And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever. And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them. And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works. And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. And whoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire."



The Book of Daniel for the wise

Dan 12:1-13:
"And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which stands for the children of your people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time your people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book. And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt. And they that be wise shall shine as the brightness of the firmament; and they that turn many to righteousness as the stars for ever and ever. But you, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased. Then I Daniel looked, and, behold, there stood other two, the one on this side of the bank of the river, and the other on that side of the bank of the river. And one said to the man clothed in linen, which was on the waters of the river, How long shall it be to the end of these wonders? And I heard the man clothed in linen, which was on the waters of the river, when he held up his right hand and his left hand to heaven, and swore by him that lives for ever that it shall be for a time, times, and an half; and when he shall have accomplished to scatter the power of the holy people, all these things shall be finished. And I heard, but I understood not: then said I, O my Lord, what shall be the end of these things? And he said, Go your way, Daniel: for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end. Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand. And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that makes desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days. Blessed is he that waits, and comes to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days. But go you your way till the end be: for you shall rest, and stand in your lot at the end of the days."



Tell me what Allah says in the Qur'an about the End time

TenQ:
It says you Muslims will enter the fire!

Quote me a Tafsir that differ?

The argument of Muslims had always been that you will pass over hell using the bridge of sirat.

I should not be the one teaching you this.

Is it true or untrue that Muslim babies can go to hell fire?

TenQ:
I am saying what Allah said about you in the Qur'an


Qur'an 19:71
"وَمَا مِنكُم مِّنْ أَحَدٍ إِلَّا سَيَمُرُّهَا ۚ ذَٰلِكَ عَلَىٰ رَبِّكَ يَسِيرٌ"

Was ma minkum min ahadin illa sayamurruhā...

That you will enter the fire!


Do you want to end up in the fire?

TenQ:
It seems you don't know Islam or your scholars have Taqqiya-ed you.


Is it Untrue or True that that even sinless Muslim babies can go to the fire of hell?

How much more you!

TenQ:
Thank you ma.
Force you!? I cannot!! It is not given to any man to force you either to heaven or hell.

I can only plead with you to stop and think!
I can only solicit that you examine the document in your hand: is it 419!?

But of course,
A Muslim is one who lives by the mantra of
Don't confuse me with the Truth because I have already made up my mind!


Qur'an 46:9
Say: "I am no bringer of new-fangled doctrine among the messengers, nor do I know what will be done with me or with you. I follow but that which is revealed to me by inspiration; I am but a Warner open and clear."


This is why I plead with you: don't go to Hell


Qur'an 19:71
"وَمَا مِنكُم مِّنْ أَحَدٍ إِلَّا سَيَمُرُّهَا ۚ ذَٰلِكَ عَلَىٰ رَبِّكَ يَسِيرٌ"

Was ma minkum min ahadin illa sayamurruhā...

Going by the Arabic!

Every Muslim according to Allah will FIRST enter the Fire of Hell before Allah will now accept their ransome



See what the Tafsirs say:
ALL Muslims will enter the Fire of Hell until they are finally ransomed.

See the Tafsirs on Qur'an 19:71

Quran 19 :71 Abbas - Tanwîr al-Miqbâs min Tafsîr Ibn ‘Abbâs
(There is not one of you but shall approach it) there is not a single one of you, to the exclusion of prophets and messengers, save that he will enter it, i.e. hell. (That is a fixed ordinance of your Lord) it is a decree that must necessarily take place.


Qur'an 19.71 Jalal - Al-Jalalayn
There is not one of you but shall come to it, that is, [but] shall enter Hell. That is an inevitability [already] decreed by your Lord, [something which] He made inevitable and [which] He decreed; He will not waive it.


Qur'an 19.71-72 Kathir - Ibn Al Kathir
Everyone will be brought to Hell, then the Righteous will be saved
Ibn Jarir reported from `Abdullah that he said concerning Allah's statement,

All Muslims are entering Hell Fire!

Quran 19:72 -
Then We will save those who feared Allah and leave the wrongdoers within it, on their knees."


You will first Enter the Fire: this is inevitable for you ma. How long will you stay in the fire?
Could it be a deception that you will thereafter be saved!?

This is a deception ma!

TenQ:
Why now?

Are you angry that I expose that which is deeply hidden in Islam?

Hell fire is appointed for you if refuse to know and adopt the Truth.

Your prophets says ALL Muslims will go to Hell before some of you will be removed.

Why do you even think that a Christian or a Jew would be used to ransom you from Hell?

Riyad as-Salihin 432
Abu Musa Al-Ash'ari (May Allah be pleased with him) reported:
Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) said, "On the Day of Resurrection, Allah will deliver to every Muslim, a Jew or a Christian and say: 'This is your ransom from Hell-fire."'
Another narration is: Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) said, "There would come people amongst the Muslims on the Day of Resurrection with sins as heavy as a mountain, and Allah would forgive them".

Does your prophet even know if he would be saved from the fire according to Allah in the Qur'an.


Qur'an 46:9
Say: "I am no bringer of new-fangled doctrine among the messengers, nor do I know what will be done with me or with you. I follow but that which is revealed to me by inspiration; I am but a Warner open and clear."

The uncertainty you follow is alarming sir!

oguns222:
So, his son that died is suddenly not his family?

Chai, Islam is cursed.

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oguns222:
Explain why Quran 21 said Noah's family was saved, while 11 said one of his sons died.

oguns222:
Oga oponu, why didn't Quran 21 mention that one of Noah's sons died in the flood? Why did it say Noah's family was saved without mentioning the death of one of the family members?

Noah's sons are Shem, ham and japhet.

What's the name of the son that died in Quran 11?

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Don't try to run away like a deceptive fool. Answer the question

oguns222:
Why didn't chapter 21 mention that one of Noah's children died? Why did it say Noah's children are rescued?

Is like your head is not correct.

I asked you a simple question but you are busy ranting like a fool.

oguns222:
Oga, your explanation is stupid. Why didn't Mohammed state in Quran 21 that one of Noah's sons was found unworthy and, therefore, died in the flood?

Was Muhammad on colos when he was writing chapter 21, and, therefore, didn't remember the tale he wrote in chapter 11?

Oya, give another stupid explanation to defend your rotten Quran.

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oguns222:
Lolz.

Quran 21:76= Noah and his family were saved from the flood.

Quran 11:41-43: One of Noah's sons was drowned in the flood.

Let's start with that. 😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀
You should read the next verse following it that he (Noah) asked that you promise me y family will be said expect my wife and what did Allah use to repl

Quran is a trash book full of errors and is not word of God.

John360comng:
Your ignorance. Your problem.

oguns222:
I know you will change the story again since you can't prove that Quran is word of God.

Oga, provide evidence that Quran is word of God, instead of jumping around like a deceptive entity.