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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 3:21pm On Aug 24, 2020
Thanks for your opinion === I agree with your opinion cheesy,.....see people wey I dey argue with grin grin

You go die untop my issue last last

grin grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 2:11pm On Aug 24, 2020
GloryIsaac:
This is what happened.

In late 2017, United was prepared to offer Herrera a new contract. Talks commenced but both parties could not come to an agreement.

So, United took advantage of the terms in his previous contract, and triggered the one-year extension clause. Which forced him to stay for at least one more season, the 2018/2019 season.

Late 2018, United still wanted to renew his contract, but he demanded about 200k/wk, something United were not ready to grant him. So United stalled (a simple negotiation tactic).

To understand the circumstances. That was the period when the club had realized that Sanchez had scammed them. Sanchez situation made other better performing players demand a massive salary increase. United were determined to salvage an-already scattered wage structure, and were offering based on long-term potential. Which was why Martial got 250k, and Jones got 75k thereabouts.

While United felt their tactic would work (which is what they're doing for Sancho now), PSG came in and offered Herrera a very good deal, about 350k/wk. There was no way United would have offered Herrera that amount of money, especially for a 5-yr deal. So even when they "gave-in" to the 200k, it was still a no-brainer to leave the club.

To understand this better. Pogba earns 290k/wk. How will United have matched PSG's offer without causing chaos at the club?

Put yourself in Herrera's shoes cheesy

29yr old. Time is going fast.
Moving to a lower quality league.
Joining the best club in the league.
Earning more than a player like Pogba.
Living in a great city like Paris.


It's common sense.
Thanks for this, you dropped your opinion without going the way of those kids that weren't brought up properly.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 1:55pm On Aug 24, 2020
Lana1:
Lol. Was Pogba injured or not? What happened to Fred the moment Pogba was fit??

Una go just dey come up with rubbish agenda
Sarcasm.

I was just mirroring the person using appearance to judge.....check up previous post to trace the origin of my post don't just assume
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 12:10pm On Aug 24, 2020
KingAlabi:
[s]What I have been dropping since is what.

Okoto yarns don occupy the receiving end side of your brain?? grin

Reduce it a bit maybe you will understand better, but for now, just keep me entertained. grin

Over to you[/s]
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 12:08pm On Aug 24, 2020
GloryIsaac:
Even on this thread, the contract saga was on..

Postdigger should do the needful pls. All these yarns dey tire person.
You believe the contract offer reported by media but you don't believe what Herrera and his agent have spoken about publicly more than 3 times.

If Herrera wrongly accused the club, you think OLE and Woodward won't address it?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 12:01pm On Aug 24, 2020
KingAlabi:
My life isn't important in an anonymous thread. Maybe if we meet in real life we will talk about it.
I have bn dropping my points drop yours,.... no need to show us your rude and mannerless character.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 11:54am On Aug 24, 2020
KingAlabi:
Wait ohhhhh, before Matic came in who was man United most defensive midfielder??

I pray you remember, too much okoto yarns just full your head waiting to come out.
Natural Defensive Midfielder.

The natural in my statement is not for design.

Expert17:
Natural Defensive Midfielder at PSG = Gueye (leading to conversion of Marquinhos)

Battle for the other 2 positions in midfield = Draxler, Verrati, Paredes, Herrera, Simons,
Di Maria played there sometimes.

I pray you can understand this
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 11:44am On Aug 24, 2020
From he won't start the UCL final to he asked for 100% wage increase cheesy cheesy

The same media they don't believe is now the source..... grin

He's not good but he performed better than Scheinderlin ( had the highest tackles/interception in EPL the season before he joined us), Schweinsterger, Blind, Fellaini, Pogba, Mc tominay, Fred, etc during his time here......

He represented Spain National Team at a point ( thousands of Spain players couldn't)
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 11:25am On Aug 24, 2020
Bring statistics, you filtered and brought the ones that favoured your argument grin grin grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 11:23am On Aug 24, 2020
KingAlabi:
Confirmed!!!!, You are addicted to okoto yarns grin, was Pogba injured?

Ok since Pogba came back how many matches Fred don play.

When Gueye was starting was Herrera injured ??

Tough.
Natural Defensive Midfielder at PSG = Gueye (leading to conversion of Marquinhos)

Battle for the other 2 positions in midfield = Draxler, Verrati, Paredes, Herrera, Simons,
Di Maria played there sometimes.

I pray you can understand this
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 11:14am On Aug 24, 2020
KingAlabi:
Too much ball bin nak your head as keeper??

Was Herrera injured when Gueye was starting??
Yes, ball hit my head Wella.

Let's talk about your life, atleast you know little about mine
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 11:13am On Aug 24, 2020
timay:
Stop turning Amala here Na.

We all know both Herrera and Gueye were not injured . They were both fit. Your were only castigated for making comparison using an Injured player and a fit player. After you have been called out, instead of you to just move on , you still come back to be turning Amala again.

Na wá for you o
When you have answers to this let me know.

Mention one stuff Gueye does better than Herrera ( Tacking, Interception, Goals, Passes, Assists, Chance creation, Distance covering)
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 11:05am On Aug 24, 2020
1.
KingAlabi:
Well, in the ligue 1 this season Gueye made 20 appearance for PSG and Herrera had only 8.

I think the coach knew who was better.
2.

KingAlabi:
Na im way be that even Rodrigo had more appearance than hazard in the league maybe because rodrygo is better, when we all know hazard was fvcking injured, that guy na chief okoto meows speaker.
Who dey yan okoto now.?

Relax, if you have issues with my posts kindly ignore or face me with yours.....stop confusing yourself
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 11:01am On Aug 24, 2020
KingAlabi:
Na im way be that even Rodrigo had more appearance than hazard in the league maybe because rodrygo is better, when we all know hazard was fvcking injured, that guy na chief okoto meows speaker.
Na you talk say Gueye made 20 apps while Herrera made just 8 apps, that's your reason for saying Gueye is better....

Now you don change mouth. grin grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 10:58am On Aug 24, 2020
odizeey:
Media get power o. Sometimes e dey enter me o.
But when you look am critically you go see say all na narrative.
They believe the media statements on Herrera but won't believe the same media reports on Pogba grin grin

How will Herrera ask for above 100% wage increase and you believe it grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 10:49am On Aug 24, 2020
Leyqute:
LMAO. Odogwu don vex o. Duke of Papastathopoulos, Chief of going-personal, Oba of Ireland, Igwe of LAUTECH, ballon d’Or professional GK. May we not offend you!
Amen o
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 10:49am On Aug 24, 2020
odizeey:
Send am Irish biscuits maybe him go free you. grin
cheesy cheesy grin

Good idea
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 10:46am On Aug 24, 2020
odizeey:
At least you and Expert have something in common. cheesy

Make Una embrace.
Timay na my guy.

Na Lequeque wan die for my matter oo
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 10:30am On Aug 24, 2020
Ekute leave me alone and stop having erection on my matter.

This is not secret cult we are allowed to have our own views.

God wey allow me play professional football go help you make money to leave your parent house @ 40 years old. Amen.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 10:20am On Aug 24, 2020
timay:
The comparison you used says it all.

Everyone , even an slowpoke knows that Pogba had been injured for a better part of the season coupled with personal issues with the club

And after Pogba returned, what happened to Fred ?

You just dey yarn Okoto meow since morning grin
Calm down and analyse my post before replying.

I made this statement because of KingAlabi ( using appearance to judge who is better).....now go back and check the post..,

Likes and Shares on Nairaland won't amount to money.....so calm down and make your points
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 10:17am On Aug 24, 2020
odizeey:
So Woodward dey try, in essence? cheesy
cheesy cheesy
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 10:16am On Aug 24, 2020
Just to end this talk

-Gueye is better than Herrera.

-Herrera is better than Gueye in

Tackles
Interception
Chance creation
Goals
Assists
Distance covering
Playing anywhere in midfield
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 10:10am On Aug 24, 2020
Well this season Fred made more appearance than Pogba.

I guess OLE knows who is better.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 10:04am On Aug 24, 2020
timay:
Nigga, stop turning Amala when arguing, I'm sure no one ever said such a thing of Mctominay being better than Herrera. what we are saying here is Gueye.
You are sure, as if you read every post on this thread....that's how you jump to conclusion(Herrera asking for more than 100% pay rise) without investigating.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 10:00am On Aug 24, 2020
timay:
Gueye trumps Herrera in the first two parameters you listed. I don't need to check Premier league page to know that. I remember Gueye and Ndidi were always dragging 1st and 2nd position with each other on those two parameters every season till Gueye left for PSG.

I'll modify this post after checking premier league website for the other parameters
After watching Herrera at United for years (e.g against the most skilful player in EPL then Eden Hazard), you still believe Gueye is better in making tackles and interception grin grin grin

I mentioned 7 key attributes for a midfielder and you can't mention just ONE that you can clearly rate Gueye higher..... grin grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 9:44am On Aug 24, 2020
It's on this thread I read something like Mc tominay is better than Herrera, now Gueye.
grin grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 9:42am On Aug 24, 2020
timay:
Ha I don die. Because of one champions league match Herrera is now better than Gueye? grin

Even as an Everton player he was rated higher. Now that they are in the same club , we all can see who the first choice is.
Gueye and Herrera cheesy cheesy

Who is better than in

Tackles
Interceptions
Assists
Goals
Chance creation
Distance covering
Passes

grin grin


Herrera wasn't rated at Bilbao? Thats why he was winning Man of the Match against teams like Barcelona and Real Madrid :
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 9:29am On Aug 24, 2020
timay:
No one hates ex players here, it only you guys j
that just want to be revising history just because you don't like Woodward ( which by the way is a common factor among United fans)

People also do that with Lukaku here , dropping Lukaku alert any time he manages to control a pass , and it's getting irritating to say the least. We should just move on and stop this attitude of bringing up the names of ex players whenever they managed to have a good game.

Where was Herrera alert since all this days. All of a sudden he started having playing time due to the injuries to their first Choice midfielders (Gana Gueye and Verratti) Una no allow us hear word again
Herrera is average and you even think Gueye is better grin grin

Herrera can't accuse Woodward and the club of treating him badly more than 3 times, and the club will keep quiet......this is simple.

Anybody that believe those media outlets saying Herrera asked for 100% wage increase, needs to check himself and rethink that rubbish lies.

Herrera, Ferdinand and Evra won't accuse Woodward wrongly.

Woodward is slow at everything
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 9:12am On Aug 24, 2020
timay:
No the deal he wanted was what came late (250k), not a contract extension altogether. Don't make it sound as if he wasn't offered an extension before that time.

He was offered contract extension more than once but the money was the problem.

By the time Ed eventually gave in, PSG had already come with a better offer of 300k. So it was a no brainer that he will accept the offer from PSG
So you believe Herrera and his agent will accuse the Club of treating him badly during negotiation and OLE and Woodward will just keep quiet?

No Man Utd player can ask for 100% increase at 30years old. Lai lai
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 9:08am On Aug 24, 2020
weedtaker:
Glad for Herrera , got a chance to play in a CL final and didn’t put a foot wrong , average player average player, yet na world class mbappe turn shit for final.

Herrera has played two European finals and was one of the best performers for his team in both of them, kunta Kinte on the other hand reach world final only to form sickness after dropping disaster class.

Yet people got the nerve to say he was France best midfielder in the World Cup., chai main man don suffer sha, the level of disrespect angry
That's the funny thing.....

To Man utd fans he is average, but if you ask them to mention a midfieder that played better than him during his time, you won't get a response.

The hate for our ex players is real.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 9:00am On Aug 24, 2020
weedtaker:
Our offer was late, he said it with his mouth ffs!!! Abi una no de read seff? When the PSG offer came it was a no brainer for him.. still fact is we opened negotiations with him late, same as Woodward did with Evra.

Una get phone yet to enter google find something go the hard una.
Abeg leave them.

Ferdinand, Evra, Herrera complained about Woodward late tactics..... guys are saying different stuffs here.

Even common TRANSFER deals, this man like delaying not to talk of in-house deals.

Herrera asking for 250k grin grin grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 8:53am On Aug 24, 2020
Nezzjnr:
But you said Woodward was too slow in offering him a new contract

Now you're saying Woodward should have increased his Salary


If not for Timay... I no go Sabi say na another agenda against Woodward you wan push so
Try to understand my post,

Man Utd hardly offer pay rise to players at 30+ years old.... Herrera didnt asked for 250k but all he complained about was the way he was treated during the process.... His agent was the one disturbing Woodward.

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