₦airaland Forum

china is a civilized society

it get u exposed, it shows u re a pure hater that do not follow any teaching or saying of jesus,

and why will u ever believed mohammed, ?

even if mohammed bring jesus to the world and to your present for him to clerify your doubts, u wil still not believe

and guess what?

jesus gave his word for such people

am back in d house

In recent time, fashola has been facing so much accusation of corruption,

My concern is that, his he really guilty or what?

if he his not, then where are all these accusations coming from? and why?

different groups came up with different accusation as follows:

Fashola & Mega Corruption: The True Face Of Lagos (1)

We are tax payers resident in Lagos who are desperately desirous of accountability since taxes have recently become major revenue of Lagos State government

We are tax payers resident in Lagos who are desperately desirous of accountability since taxes have recently become major revenue of Lagos State government. In the developed societies where a similar revenue regime operates, associations such as ours have acted as Government watchdogs, which is why some of us have decided to take up the gauntlet of championing the cause of taxpayers in the state. After all, if we don't pay our taxes, government can charge and eventually jail us.

In the last ten years, tax revenue has come to constitute about 75 percent of government revenue base, yet, the government never bothers to render account to tax payers in Lagos . In the last three years alone, a colossal sum of 1.1 trillion naira was budgeted by Fashola's government with the government itself affirming that it has consistently recorded a minimum of 75 percent of budget performance out of which 80 per cent came from Internally Generated Revenue (IGR). This is 30 percent more than the entire budgets recorded by successive governments between 1992-2007 - a period spanning 15 years.

Today, the total tax revenue of Lagos on a monthly basis hovers between N14 and N17 billion while federal allocations come to N6 billion monthly. This is more than the revenue of seven states put together on a monthly basis. But how has the governor been spending the money? While we note the heavy investments on roads and environmental infrastructure mainly and commendably so, there is the need to question some of the ways the governor has been expending tax money which in our opinion reflects financial recklessness, mismanagement, gross constitutional violations and abuse of office.

Set below are some of the expenditures which the government claimed to have incurred on behalf of 'Lagosians' and which we feel were mere avenues to corruptly enrich some privileged individuals in and out of government and to which the state House of Assembly under the tutelage of 'governor Emeritus' otherwise known as the Lion of Bourdillon has become an accomplice covering up a lot of misdeeds on the part of the executive. Just last week, it was alleged that each member of the House was given a sum of N20million through a lawyer member of the House from the Lagos west senatorial district, the constituency of the governor emeritus himself. When this was about to be leaked to the press, the Lion of Bourdillon used his powerful media contacts through two of his former aids who are media chieftains to suppress the leakage. Were this not to be the case, we would have otherwise sent these complaints to the House of Assembly.

But since we no longer trust this pliant House of Assembly, we have decided to go public with the following:
1. Last year, Fashola (BRF) gave N250 million to Rotimi Akeredolu led Exco of NBA for the NBA conference held in Lagos, at a time when Lagos teachers and doctors were on strike for improved welfare package.

2. The BRF government within 6 months, January to June 2009 spent N420 million on hiring of private security to guard him despite his heavy investment in the Police Force through the State Security Trust Fund.

3. BRF spent N1.5 billion to demolish the Bank of Industry (BOI) building, paying a company introduced by one Tunji Olowolafe in cash transfer only for him and his cronies to claim the land adjacent to it.

4. BRF government awarded part of Western Avenue (Funsho Williams Road), about two kilometres road for N7.7 billion just between Abalti Barracks and Costain. Without the construction of any bridges, the project was carried out by Julius Berger. This project must certainly be investigated.

5. Between January and June 2009, the BRF government claimed to have fuelled 225 vehicles in his office alone with N135 million. These figures amount to about N800, 000 per day, at a time that petrol was sold for N65 per litre and government always gets it cheaper, but BRF claimed to have bought it at N85 per litre.

6. Also between January and June 2009, BRF's Chief of Staff and PAs expended N290 million in sending TEXT Messages and phone CALLS on their lines.

7. It is also very sickening to know that the BRF government awarded the construction of a road and drains inside Gbagada General Hospital for over N1.8 billion to the same Tunji Olowolafe's company (DEUX Projects Limited).

8. The sum of 1.5 billion of un-appropriated funds, without approval was claimed to have been spent on demolition of Oshodi.

9. The Helicopter Deal was a big fraud. The helicopter was not built for any kind of emergency evacuation, rescue or to even combat urban fire. Over N5 billion has been spent on the two helicopters. The seal of Lagos State is not on it and it is not even in Lagos but in the Niger Delta making money for some private people in government. The whole helicopter deal stinks to high heavens; it constitutes the biggest governmental fraud of all times and confirms the rot in the State. See ThisDay December 19, 2009

10. The SSA (Media) to BRF spent N183 million in 6 months on press coverage and on editors outside the approved budget but funded directly from the Governor's Office.

11. In a State where children are sitting on the floor in classrooms, where unemployment is rampant and poverty pervasive, BRF paid a lady wife of a controversial pastor over N600 million in two years for Xmas Decorations for about six streets in Lagos.

12. In six months between January and June 2009, BRF spent on several faceless organisations, subventions, grants and donations and they quickly pocketed N2 billion.

The Ripping Off Of Lagos- Essential Details
1. The BRF government recklessly increased and paid over 60 percent increase on the LASU IBA road awarded by the Bola Tinubu government for N6.2 billion but was jerked up to N10 billion less than two weeks that BRF came on board.

2. Also, the Tinubu administration awarded the construction of City Hall for N2.3 billion. BRF only changed the floor tiles to marble tiles and increased the contract sum to N5.2 billion. This project was increased by 126 per cent.

3. Publishing of INDICATOR Magazine, is falsely presented to the public as a private magazine but is actually co-ordinated by Tunji Olowolafe and Hakeem Bello, SSA (Media) to BRF with government money.

4. BRF recently gave a media-related Permanent Secretary, and some others the sum of N100 million to do a soap opera on himself. They are presently in London recording the film.

5. The BRF government has failed woefully in the area of Public Private Partnership (PPP) in three years. Yet, BRF is paying the PPP boss in Lagos State N2 million per month in violation of the Constitution, when even commissioners recognised by the Constitution are receiving N300,000 per month. The PPP guy is the highest paid government official presiding over a non-performing and failed parastatal.

6. The Beautification Programme of Fashola administration is reeking with corruption. In a State where there is no water, where over 90 percent of the roads in Lagos are in a deplorable state of disrepair, he is spending over N13 billion on planting grass and flowers. Most of the money was spent to import palm trees from Niger Republic, a sahel region belt when Lagos is in the rain forest which explains why most of them have dried up,

7. Also, it is important to note that the renovation of classrooms of usually 12 blocks plus one which was done for N26 million by the Tinubu administration up till 2007 was increased to N53 million with the collaboration of the housing commissioner who is supervising projects in the education ministry.

8. CCTV project was awarded to BRF's relation who claimed to be acting for CISCO. The contract was awarded for $62 million dollars, while the rejected quotation for the contract was $30 million. It is important to note that this is only a pilot scheme.

9. BRF's wife travels abroad once bi-monthly and takes N30 million per trip from the State coffers, apart from her monthly running cost.

10. The mother of all rip offs is the award to DEUX PROJECT LIMITED, a company owned by the powerful Tunji Olowolafe 11 out of 19 contracts in the Lagos State Ministry of health between January and August 2009. Out of N5.6 billion contract in the Ministry of Health, Olowolafe alone collected N5.1 billion worth and was paid 70 percent upfront in cash.

Other Questions
1. Why did BRF divert N1.85 billion in the Ministry of Women Affairs and Poverty Alleviation to a project that was not originally provided for in the budget and promptly awarded to Olowolafe?

2. Why is the Lawyer in BRF's administration illegally deducting funds from the statutory allocation of the Local Governments in Lagos State?

3. Why was the Mayegun Scheme sold to Olowolafe and other friends and cronies against public interest without any independent valuation by relevant agency of government? Why is the size of the scheme shielded in secrecy? Why was N5.2 billion for which the land was sold untraceable? Where is the over N2 billion loan borrowed to sand-fill the place? What is the fate of the Tourism and Art-craft sellers chased away from the place?

4. Pinnacle why did the governor and his cronies engage in questionable transfer of 400 hectares of land to Pinnacle, South Africa, when it is known that the company is almost bankrupt and the ABSA Bank now owns over 60 percent of the Company. What nature of PPP is this? The world is watching!

5.Why was the illegal sand-filling of about 1 km in the Badagry Marina awarded for N1.5 billion out of which N700 million has been paid yet the contractors and the Tourism Ministry have completely destroyed all the historical relics and artefacts in the area? It has also created an environmental disaster for West Africa because of greed. It appears the Commissioner has been settled.

Fashola And Constitutional Violations
1.Flagrant and deliberate disregard for the Appropriation law passed by the Lagos State House of Assembly, in violation of Section 120 of the 1999 Constitution.

2. Criminal diversion of funds without due approval of the Lagos State House of Assembly, in further violation of Section 120 (3) of the 1999 Constitution.

3. Indiscriminate award of contracts without due process, without following the laid down financial regulations as well as the public procurement guidelines. The payment of such contracts is in violation of Part (E) Section 120(4) of the 1999 Constitution of the Federal Republic of Nigeria.

4. Most Ministries, Departments, Parastatals sometimes do not know when contracts are awarded in their names and for what purpose, they only find out later and they don't know when payments to contractors are made by the State Treasury Office. This is in further violation of Section 121(2) of the 1999 Constitution.

5. Illegal and unwarranted deductions from the statutory Allocation of the local governments. This is in direct contravention of Public Revenue Provision of the 1999 Constitution and in violation of Section 162 sub-section 6, 7 and 8.

6. Opening of illegal and unconstitutional Dedicated Accounts which is contrary to the provision of the 1999 Constitution and which Revenue Monitoring Agency is unaware of. This act is in direct violation of Section 120(1) of the 1999 Constitution.

7. Office of the Chief of Staff which is unknown to the Constitution has more staff than any other Ministry in Lagos State . This violation is very grave as it is in direct breach of the Governor's Oath of Office in the 7th Schedule of the 1999 Constitution Section 13 and a gross violation of Sections 192, 193 and 208(2d) of the 1999 Constitution.

8. Indiscriminate borrowing by the Ministry of Finance without legislative approval, which the Finance Commissioner calls Bridging Loans, is a grave assault on Fiscal Federalism, a coup against Financial Regulations and a shameful and criminal violation of Section 120(1), (2), (3) and (4) of the 1999 Constitution.

9. Concentration of over 70 per cent of Lagos State Government contracts in the hands of one Tunji Olowolafe. This is the clearest indication of the betrayal of trust by Governor Fashola, it is against the Oath of Office he swore to, it is a violation of Sections 14(4), 15(5) and 17(2a) of the 1999 Constitution on which social objective of a just, free and equitable social order is founded.

10. Arbitrary use of Special Expenditure Vote for activities not originally provided for under the Appropriation Law. This is a further betrayal of Fiscal Federalism and a violation of provisions of Section 120(3) and (4), and Section 123(1) and (2) of the 1999 Constitution.

11. Payment of 70per cent up-front to persons and cronies for contracts not yet executed. Similarly, this is a contravention of Section 120(4) of the 1999 Constitution.

12. Giving arbitrary donations to selective professional associations and faceless organisations for acting as sycophants without appropriate authorisation by relevant constitutional bodies. This is a clear violation of sections 120(4) and 123 of the 1999 Constitution

13. The fraudulent purported acquisition of 2 Bell 412 EP Series Helicopters from a Canadian firm constitute a flagrant violation of Section 123(1) and (2) and Section 120(4) of the 1999 Constitution.

14. Furthermore, the award of contract of courts and other Judicial Infrastructure as well as procurement for the Judiciary in Lagos State by the Attorney-General, Tunji Olowolafe and Governor Fashola is in gross violation of Section 121(3) of the 1999 Constitution.
In all these aberrations, the Lagos State House of Assembly has kept mute, and the House has become inept, archaic, drab, docile and inefficient. All the noise by Mr. Speaker about accountability and probity be only to enable house members line their pockets and feed fat on the sweat and toil of the people of the state?

Is it also true that they have been given their own share of the loot, they are maintaining undignified silence over the report of the ad hoc committee set up to look into the books and activities of the Lagos State Government pursuant to Section 103 of the 1999 Constitution with powers expressly provided in sections 1a, b(i) and (ii), as well as Section 129 1 a b c and d.

We are aware that the report has been submitted since November 2009, so why is the Lagos State House of Assembly still sitting on the report? This is just a tip of the ice berg of financial recklessness by the Lagos executive led the seemingly performing Governor Fashola! More soon.

* By Tunde George & Kasali Martins


http://nationalpointonline.com/nponline/index.php?mact=News,cntnt01,detail,0&cntnt01articleid=1699&cntnt01returnid=15




Indeed there is another group-Lagos Progressives who have released two advertorials in Thisday and Compass on new allegations against Fashola and Tinubu. For the benefit of others, i reproduced the advertorial below:

THE OTHER FACE OF LAGOS
How Gov Fashola and Ex-Gov Tinubu are despoiling Lagos

We are concerned citizens of Lagos State who are bothered about recent developments in the state which were brought to public awareness by the publication titled “The True Face of Lagos”. The publication listed a number of very serious allegations which we believe warrants an immediate response by the Lagos state administration.

This publication has also presented His Excellency, the Governor of Lagos with a rare opportunity to be accountable to the people of Lagos. He should ride high on this to endear himself to the people. We now call on him to explain on a point-by-point basis these serious allegations of financial recklessness, mis-management, abuse of office and other gross constitutional violations levelled against him.

For the ease of reference, we have identified certain specific allegations which we expect His Excellency to respond to and which should also be of concern to the members of the public and agencies such as Economic and Financial Crime Commission (EFCC), ICPC and Special Frauds Unit of the Nigerian Police. We have grouped the allegations into six categories which also included other issues and allegations against his predecessor-former Gov Bola Tinubu. We expect both to explain and clear their names against these weighty allegations.
1. Allegations of Contract Inflation:
 Demolition of the Bank of Industry at a whopping cost of N1.5billion
 Rehabilitation of 2 kilometers portion of Funsho Williams Road (Western Avenue) at N7.7billion
 The rehabilitation of roads within the Gbagada General Hospital at N1.8billion
 The jerking-up of the cost of LASU-IBA road project at a cost of N10billion
 The jerking-up of the City Hall rehabilitation project to a mind-boggling N5.2billion
 The mysterious N5b helicopter deal which the public is eager to know details of how a state could expend these huge resources to acquire helicopters without a transparent bidding process
 The sand-filling of the Badagry-Marina foreshore at a whopping N1.5billion

2. Allegation of Financial Recklessness and Mis-management
 The gift of N250million to the Rotimi Akeredolu-led EXCO of the Nigerian Bar Association (NBA).
 The N420million spent to hire private security for six (6) months.
 Another N135million to fuel 225 vehicles within 6 months
 A whopping N290million to send text messages and make phone calls within six (6) months
 An unbudgeted N1.5billion of unappropriated funds for the demolition of Oshodi Market
 N183m for press coverage for six (6) months
 N600m paid in two (2) years for Christmas decorations
 N2b spent on subventions, grants and donation to faceless organisations
 N100m to allegedly film soap opera on Governor Fashola
 An unbelievable $62m (N10billion)for a CCTV project
 N30m per trip for the governor’s wife for six (6) trips per year

3. DEUX Projects and Dr. Tunji Olowolafe
There are serious allegations and new revelations against this company and this person, of which the public deserves a detailed explanation:
 Who is Tunji Olowolafe and What is his relationship with Governor Fashola and former governor Bola Tinubu?

 We are aware that Olowolafe’s relationship with Lagos state government predated this present administration. For instance in 2005, Olowolafe’s Deux Projects Ltd solely handled all rehabilitation and building projects at the Lagos State University Teaching Hospital (LASUTH). Why is Tunji Olowalafe the only major beneficiary of major hospital projects in Lagos State since the tenure of former Governor Bola Tinubu till date?

 In 2005-2006, the Cook County Hospital in Chicago, Illinois, USA donated a set of medical equipment to the Lagos State government free of charge. Yet, records showed that a company belonging to Tunji Olowolafe was paid by way of Letters of Credit for the same equipment. The public deserves an explanation.


 The entire maintenance contract and management of hospital equipment at the LASUTH was solely concessioned to Olowolafe’s company by the Tinubu administration at an annual payment of N850m paid upfront. The Fashola’s government retains this arrangement


 The development of Tejuosho and Oluwole markets are also concessioned to companies jointly owned by. Tunji Olowolafe and former Gov Bola Tinubu.

 The on-going construction of the Children’s Hospital in Gbaja, Surulere is presently being executed by the same Deux Project of Tunji Olowolafe.

All of the above are but only a fraction of these cases of corrupt practices and abuse of office common in this government and that of its predecessor. But wait, there are more shocking revelations on Tunji Olowolafe and Bola Tinubu and Fashola below:



4. Lekki Concession Company (LCC) and Asset Resources Management (ARM)

 LCC is the company to which the Lekki-Epe road construction project was concessioned for 30 years in 2006.
 Dr. Tunji Olowolafe is the Chairman of LCC.
 The construction company handling the Lekki-Epe Expressway is HITECH
 HITECH is owned by the Chagouris and former Gov Bola Tinubu is the Chairman.
 The public has been kept in the dark as to the terms, conditions and scope of this concession. We are aware that the concession initially included the construction of Lekki-Epe expressway, a coastal road and 4th mainland bridge and several hectares of land was transferred to the concessionaire as payment in lieu.
 The public deserves to know: what is the status of the coastal road and 4th mainland bridge? Why is the Lekki-Epe expressway a toll-road when there is no alternate road for those who would not wish to pay toll? Why is the project taking so long? And what are the terms and conditions of the concession? The whole project is shrouded in secrecy. Why?
 What has become of large hectares of land concessioned to ARM and Olowolafe at Lekki corridor as part payment in lieu for this project?
 Why was the Maiyegun Scheme sold to Olowolafe and his cronies without any independent valuation and where is the N5.3b purportedly paid?.
 The land (Layeni’s compound) adjacent to the demolished BOI building was acquired in the public interest but resold to Olowolafe and his friends. Why?

5. Land Matters
 Governor Fashola should explain to the public the indiscriminate and reckless acquisition and conversion of public land for the personal use of former Gov Tinubu and Gov Fashola himself, their close family members and cronies. Some of these are:
o Why was the hectares of land adjacent to the Ajah-Badore junction on Lekki-Epe road which was original earmarked for a general hospital to serve the people of Eti-Osa now given away (free of charge) to a prominent member of Bola Tinubu’s family and renamed Royal Garden Estate?
o Why did former Gov Tinubu give away Hecters of land belonging to several communities-Sirinwon, Igbekodo, Apakin etc in Ibeju Lekki local government to his crony, one Ibukun Fakeye to develop a golf course and housing estate with no regard for the right of the community? In addition, why did the Lagos State Government pay a whopping sum of N5billion for the take-off of the project which today is being singularly handled by Ibukun Fakeye as a private project at the exclusion of any Lagos State Government official? Was this project ever approved by the Lagos State House of Assembly or the amount appropriated in the 2006 or 2007 budgets?
o What is the present status of Eko Akete Project for which N4.7b was raised from the bank and lost. The scheme was later transferred to C&C owned by the Chagouris but at what price?
o Why were the hectares of land of Lagos State Fisheries office and the Fishery landing jetty at Badore (where the Ilubirin fishermen were to be relocated) bequeathed to one Prince Dipo Eludoyin-a personal friend and crony of ex-Gov Tinubu and Fashola?
o At what price was the entire Ogudu foreshore scheme initially earmarked for low cost housing scheme sold to a company belonging to Prince Dipo Eludoyin?
o How did former Gov Tinubu get to own the Parkview Ikoyi Estate foreshore land reclaimed by Lagos State Government? And the former Strabag yard at Alausa?
o Why did former Gov Tinubu allocate itself the choice property at Lekki-Epe road while in office of which he built and owns the multi-billion naira Oriental Hotel and the extension of multi-storey car park beside it? Also the multi-level recreation centre by Mobil in Oniru Estate on Lekki-Epe road jointly owned with ARM and Tunji Olowolafe?
o This government has expended over N5billion on the bar beach shore line project and no further work has been done by the concessionaire to develop the Atlantic City project which was claimed to have been over subscribed. We suspect The N5billion will soon become a complete waste given the temporary nature of the shoreline protection. The public deserve to know the details of this project
o Why has former Gov Bola Tinubu converted the state government residential house at 4 Oyinkan Abayomi (Queens Drive) to his own property? To the best of our knowledge, the property was put up for sale during his administration and no successful bid was received. We have it on authority that the property now belongs to him. Gov Fashola should explain to the public the true status of this property.
o Sources at the Land’s Bureau Alausa revealed that several hundreds of choice landed properties located in Ikoyi, VI, Lekki corridor, GRA ikeja etc are being recklessly given away by both ex-Gov Tinubu and Gov Fashola to friends, family, as political patronage and to corrupt top officials in the judiciary, legislative and executive and security arm at both the state and federal level. We have also been reliably informed that former Gov Tinubu is still signing C of O as the Governor up till now, backdating to period during his tenure. All these with the active support of the incumbent governor, the Permanent Secretary-Lands-Gbenga Ashafa and the former PA of ex-Gov Tinubu-Hakeem Muri Okunola.
o If a thorough independent investigation is conducted on the affairs of the Land’s Bureau at Alausa, from 1999 to date, the revelations will shock the public and further expose the despoil of Lagos by those elected to manage its affairs.

It is obvious that the land bureau is riddled with corruption of the most unimaginable level. No wonder one of the Executives of Land Use and Allocation, Committee celebrated publicly his first billion naira mark and the Permanent Secretary (Lands) – Mr. Gbenga Ashafa recently threw two (2) extensively lavish parties in the space of six months. Both parties were attended by the cream-de-le-cream of Lagos including both Governor Raji Fashola and ex-governor Bola Tinubu. It is an evidence of the level of tolerance for corruption in this administration that a sitting Governor shamelessly attended a lavish party by a serving Permanent Secretary whose annual salary could hardly pay for just the bottled water drank at the party.

6. Other Issues
 What is the status of the Bus Assembly Company-a joint venture between the Lagos State Government and Marcopolo Bus Co of Brazil of which several millions of dollars was paid to a foreign consultant and a Nigerian friend of former Gov Tinubu in 2006? Gov Fashola should update the public on this.
 What is the status of another N2b paid from the state coffers to an off shore company known only to ex-governor Bola Tinubu to build a bus maintenance facility at the old LMTS yard at Cappa, Oshodi in 2006 of which nothing has been done till date?
 What about the billions of naira paid not once, not twice on the development of Oyingbo market for which no appreciable level of work has been done? The evidence is there for the public to see.

 The public needs to know how the proceeds of the sale of Econet Wireless (now Zain) shares in foreign currency totalling about N22billion and which was paid into the account of Lagos State held with FBN Plc vanished during the tenure of former Gov Tinubu

 On what basis is the 15% commission on total internally generated revenue (IGR) being paid to Alpha Beta Tax consultants amounting to average of N1.5billion monthly when the same work was being done by the Lagos State Board of Internal Revenue?

 Who really own Alpha Beta?
 Former Gov Bola Tinubu has consistently denied ownership of the company, while Gov Fashola has publicly cleared his predecessor of any involvement with the company. So the public wants the Governor to unmask the real owners of this company Or how could a company collecting N1.5billion of tax payers’ money monthly be so shrouded in secrecy. And if Gov Fashola has indeed revoked the contract and stopped the payment, let him say so publicly.

The allegations above are pointers for Governor Fashola to react to now.
We commend the prompt action of the Lagos State House of Assembly in setting up the administrative panel to look into the allegation by the writers of “The True Face of Lagos”. We urge the Assembly to make the panel’s work to be all-inclusive taking cognisance of all matters of concern catalogued above. We also call on the members of the public whose taxes are being flagrantly wasted and stolen to demand for explanations. We call on ex-Gov Bola Tinubu and Gov Raji Fashola to publicly debunk these allegations with facts and documents and not hide under the excuse of “allegations are baseless and the work of detractors”. Let those political jobbers and other cronies in the media not hoodwink us with their usual refrain that “Gov Fashola is performing”. These allegations are indeed weighty, criminal in nature, and constitute gross constitutional breaches.
Finally, we strongly urge the EFCC who has the legal authority to immediately commence in- depth investigation of these allegations. Many of these allegations are specific with current names of individuals, location of assets and timing of events mentioned. The State’s Treasury Office (STO), office of the State’s Accountant General, and the Land’s Bureau at the Alausa Secretariat all has the relevant documents and facts to confirm or disproof these allegations.
To the members of the public and in particular, well meaning Nigerians who abhor corruption, we call on you to join us in fighting this cankerworm that is destroying our nation. First we humbly request members of the public with additional useful and credible information on the above to email us at lagosprogressives@yahoo.com with these facts. Your identity will be protected and we intend to pursue these matters to their logical conclusion
If Gov Fashola thinks this matter will die off if he remains silence, he is mistaken as we intend to continue to bring this matter to public consciousness. The good people of Lagos State are waiting and watching.

THE LAGOS PROGRESSIVES
MR GBENGA THOMAS
Cordinator
Email: lagosprogressives@yahoo.com
Tel: 07065443358

where are all these informations coming from? i don't want to believe they framed just to tarnish his image, and neither do i want to believe they re real.

this is a nice idea coming from Mr wole,

we will see if (book) leadership works, i.e if there is any difference between wole and the current politicians

hey jarus,

i think my guy bilms should be one of the ermerging legend on this forum,

i wonder how he moves around on this forum, moving from religion, to sport,music,culture,politics,jokes, lol

d guy deserve it oh

to save u d stress, i quote these just for u to understand why his best miracle is the Qur'an.

As for the Prophet's miracles, it is to be stated that a number of miracles were bestowed upon and performed by the Prophet Muhammad to establish the proof of his prophethood. Those miracles are granted by the power and permission of Allah and are usually in the field in which his people excel and are recognized as superiors. For example, Moses' contemporaries were excellent in magic. So his major miracle was to defeat the best magicians of Egypt of his days. Jesus' contemporaries were recognized as skillful physicians. Therefore, his miracles were to raise the dead and cure the incurable diseases. The Arabs, the contemporaries of the Prophet Muhammad, were known for their eloquence and magnificent poetry. So Prophet Muhammad's major miracle was the Qur'an, the equivalent of which the whole legion of the Arab poets and orators could not produce despite the repeated challenge from the Qur'an itself.

Again Prophet Muhammad's greatest miracle has something special about it. All previous miracles were limited by time and place, i.e., they were shown to specific people at a specific time. Not so the miracle of Muhammad, the Qur'an. It is a universal and everlasting miracle. Previous generations witnessed it and future generations will witness its miraculous nature in terms of its style, content and spiritual uplifting. These still can be tested and will thereby prove the divine origin of the Qur'an.

noetic16:
all I want is a break down . . . , of the miracle. how did he divide the moon? what ladder did he climb to get to the moon? or did the moon come to him?. . .and what was the purpose of dividing the moon?. . . . .please ignore my sarcasm. . .not only do I disbelieve the ridiculous miracle. . . .I also cannot identify the benefit of dividing the moon.

if u re asking these question, then u didn't read d post, so go back and read d post b4 u post anything else

ur question has already been answred many times,

okay

tell me, why english? the islamic nations are mostly arabic speaking, only few english speaking nations are muslims,

so why use english instead of arabic, and even all the english speaking muslim nations also understand arabic, they use it to say there daily prayers,

No muslim will not no arabic because u say ur prayer five times daily in arabic language,

so why english?

jazakallahu

lol

Born Muslim in Jeddah, Saudi-Arabia, return back to my country Nigeria, in the '90's

Am a Sociologist but most of my Sociological answers came from my noble Quran even though Sociologist "are either biased of Islamic Societies or ignorant of Islam" (Max Weber).

I respect people of all kind and their religiosity; but I disrespect people who disrespect my religion.

Muslim apologist, Ahmed Deedat opened my eyes and is my hero. He reminds me of my status as a Muslim and puts me to the point of defence:

Answering the critics. I love the apologetics business.

I love Jesus. I love Mary, the mother of Jesus. I love his religion (Islam) and I also believe in his Gospel and what it teaches.

I don't believe though in the Gospel According to Matthew and Mark and Luke and John.

If Christianity means the religion of Jesus I'm a Christian; I follow the teaching of the Christ Jesus.

But if by Christianity you mean believing in the blood of Jesus as the key to atonement or believe in the divinity of Jesus, something that Jesus didn't say and do; I reject that Christianity.

"Don't close your mind before you gather all the facts"

please, this topic in not meant for argument,

if you have any thing to discus, open a new thread.

plz,

the thread is for sincere and polite discussion,

no using of insulting or abusive language

[quote author=J.Ijaya link=topic=28841.msg5648633#msg5648633 date=1268046453]Blims or wat did u cal your self backside u must be insane did u ever heard artiste crown his fellow artiste a crown,barrister is a traitor and injustice old man.Hav u ever witness or heard dat a footballer will title his fellow footballer a world best,no,but rather d organising body known as FIFA.But we can call saheed d boss and king of nonentities and fighter in fuji world.U can meet me on jamo.ijaya@yahoo.com.Inshort blims is an olodo,ode,oponu,ayirada,obo{monkey}nuisance.Reply me on my mail if u ar really saheed oponu loyal fan.silly[/quote]ha ha ha ha

lol



inferiority,

are we playing ball that we need fifa? if i may ask you, who created football?

look at this fool,well its not ur fault, pasuma is a friend to my brother so i wont blame u because i no him better than u

ode,

saheed is a prophet, and he deliver his message thru music,

who create fuji music, not a body but some body, the person acknowledged the talent and crown it the king, i.e best of the bests,

so whats ur stress?

salamualaikum

if you want to see more info about this,

please visit

http://www.islamcan.com/miracles/index.shtml


another proof to man that islam is the way is in turkey,


the earthquake did not affect any mosque and all building rounding it all gone,

many more

Cactus Tree fashions itself to glorify Allah
Place: N/A Source: N/A

Meat testifies to the truth
Place: England, Source: Newspaper

Masjid unaffected once again by earthquake in Turkey
Place: Turkish city of Afyon Date: February 3, 2002

Muhammad written on the Moon - First Discovery
Place: England, America, South Africa Date: January 1, 2002

How Allah is written in Arabic, see this first before seeing the other miracles

Allah and Muhammad written in the Moon
Place: Bransbury and Oxfordshire, England Date: February 3, 2002

A tree in the posture of Islamic prayer
Place: Near Sidney, Australia Date: N/A

Allah written in a Tomato
Place: N/A Date: N/A

Toman fish testifies to the truth
Place: Rawang Date: N/A

Quranic description of explosion of the heavenly bodies come true today
Place: The Cat's Eye Nebula Date: October 31, 1999

Is this Angel Mikael who is in the charge of weather?
Place: N/A Date: N/A

Allah written in a water melon
Place: N/A Date: N/A

Reflections of the word Allah on the world's longest bridge
Place: Peneng Bridge, Malasyia Date: N/A

Allah written in an eggplant
Place: N/A Date: N/A

Allah written by the Bees
Place: Turkey Date: N/A

Allah written in a bean
Place: N/A Date: N/A

Allah written in an Aubergine
Place: N/A Date: N/A

Allah written in the Oceans - picture from Apollo 11 Shuttle
Place: Space Date: N/A

Allah written in an ear of a baby
Place: N/A Date: N/A

Allah written in the hands
Place: Everyone's Hands Date: N/A

Allah written in the clouds
Place: N/A Date: N/A

lol,

so which is the demand of big Girls since u said all listed is is one to them,

abi

because he choose,

the same way he choose you to look like u look not like a goat,

or can u tell me why God choose to give this image you have? and also tell me why he didnt make you look like a goat,

or why must he use english?


The reason why he choosed arabic can be said that because everything about islam is in arabic, and by seeing the name Allah which is arabic testify that Allah is truely the creator,

if he choose to use english, how will you know that islam is d right way?, but by using arabic that is a proof,

and it was stated in the Qur'an

Surah 41:53 Fussilat (Expounded)

Soon We will show them Our Signs in the Regions and in their own souls,
Until it becomes manifest to them that this is the Truth.

surah 41:53



On the earth are Signs for those of assured Faith, as also in your own Selves: Will ye not then see?
And in heaven is your Sustenance, as that which ye are promised. (5003)
Then, by the Lord of heaven and earth, this is the very Truth. (5004)

surah 51:20-22 .


thanx

Assalamualaikum waramatullahi wabarakatu.

May the peace and blessing of the Almighty Allah be with you all ( Ameen)

karo93:
Christianity tells me it secures my hereafter so give me concrete proof or something i ld be looking for

Thanks for your Honesty, and i really appreciate it,

since Christianity promise you hereafter, what will you be looking for in Islam?

what you should be looking for is not in Islam,but in Christianity, u should be looking for the fact that can Christianity really secure you hereafter?

u should look for this answer sincerely, and i promise you, u will not get it, because along d line, u will get confuse,

and when u re confuse that is when Islam will come in, Islam will show you ur confusion and show u the right way,

I am not telling u to accept Islam now, but search ur faith and discover the truth,

this is what God says:

So if they dispute with you, say ‘I have submitted my whole self to God, and so have those who follow me.’ And say to the People of the Scripture and to the unlearned: ‘Do you also submit yourselves?’ If they do, then they are on right guidance. But if they turn away, your duty is only to convey the Message. And in God’s sight are all of His servants.” (Quran 3:20),

proo212:
Christianity tells me that my hereafter is secure if I believe on the Lord Jesus and acknowledge that he died for my sins. If I have done that and live this life accordingly, and why do I have to believe in another 'Prophet' that God supposedly sent many many years after especially when the same sacrifice said it is finished. Ultimately we are saying that the sacrifice that Jesus made on the cross was pointless. That would be a very painful and pointless exercise. Now, who in his right mind will go through all that aggro to find out it was all for nothing. I know I wouldn't.

We all acknowledge that the Almighty God is all knowing, and is the beginning and the end. If he knew that he was going to make "another way" available, why did he offer this huge sacrifice of his son? This means God is not all knowing like everyone says he is.


I am just trying to put this into context here,
In John 15:13, it says that Greater love than this has no man known that a man should lay down his life for his friends. (SACRIFICE) And by this same sacrifice, in Hebrews 10:10, it says "And by that will, we have been made holy through the sacrifice of the body of Jesus Christ once for all." Going on to verse 12 But when this priest had offered for all time one sacrifice for sins, he sat down at the right hand of God. And lastly verse 14 because by one sacrifice he has made perfect forever those who are being made holy.

I guess all I am trying to say is that the sacrifice that was made was/is a one time thing. We do not need a new message or a new way to get to the Father. This is what the bible tells me.

Now who would I believe? Someone that paid such a price for me because he loved me, and tells me to love my neighbours as myself (because, let's face it, If I did that alone, my neighbours shouldn't find problems with me) but hey, we are humans and someone who didn't offer such a sacrifice?

u re welcome and May God increase ur knowledge,

this is exactly what i invite you to seek,

seek the truth about jesus, seek the truth about your religion, seek the truth about ur faith,

i understand you are really concern about all u asked but believe me, i cry when i see people believe in the wrong thing, people do the wrong thing passionately,

how i wish you re doing the right thing, imagine the abundance blessing you will receive from God,

Imagine you doing all u re doing now in the name of God just to get to him and discovered all u have been doing is not what he require of you.

just like a student who enter d exam hall and glance through the question paper and started writing without understanding the question, \

he wrote all he knew and he believed he will pass,

but unknowing to him, he did not understand the question, meaning that all he has been writing is wrong according to the question,

it will be very painful, and there will be nothing you can do about it, there is no chance to comeback and do the right thing,

why dnt you take the chance now to search the truth about your faith

“I invite you to accept Islam. If you accept Islam, you will find safety. If you accept Islam, God will give you a double reward. However, if you turn away, upon you will be the sin of your subjects.”

One of the fundamental truths established by the sacred texts is that no one can be compelled to accept Islam. It is the duty of Muslims to establish the proof of Islam to the people so that truth can be made clear from falsehood. After that, whoever wishes to accept Islam may do so and whoever wishes to continue upon unbelief may do so. No one should be threatened or harmed in any way if he does not wish to accept Islam.

Among the many decisive pieces of evidence in this regard are the following. God says:

“Let there be no compulsion in religion. Truth has been made clear from error. Whoever rejects false worship and believes in God has grasped the most trustworthy handhold that never breaks. And God hears and knows all things.” (Quran 2:256)

God says:

“If it had been your Lord’s will, all of the people on Earth would have believed. Would you then compel the people so to have them believe?” (Quran 10:99)

God says:

“So if they dispute with you, say ‘I have submitted my whole self to God, and so have those who follow me.’ And say to the People of the Scripture and to the unlearned: ‘Do you also submit yourselves?’ If they do, then they are on right guidance. But if they turn away, your duty is only to convey the Message. And in God’s sight are all of His servants.” (Quran 3:20)

God says:

“The Messenger’s duty is but to proclaim the Message.” (Quran 5:99)

Some people might be wondering that if Islam indeed advocates such an approach, then what is all this we hear about jihad? How can we explain the warfare that the Prophet, may the mercy and blessings of God be upon him, and his Companions waged against the pagans? The answer to this is that jihad in Islamic Law can be waged for a number of reasons, but compelling people to accept Islam is simply not one of them. As for conversion, this is to be done peacefully by disseminating the Message with the written and spoken word. There is no place for the use of weapons to compel people to accept Islam.

Had the purpose of jihad been to force the unbelievers to accept Islam, the Prophet would never have commanded the Muslims to refrain from hostilities if the enemy relented. He would not have prohibited the killing of women and children. However, this is exactly what he did.

During a battle, the Prophet saw people gathered together. He dispatched a man to find out why they were gathered. The man returned and said: “They are gathered around a slain woman.” So God’s Messenger said:

“She should not have been attacked!” Khalid b. al-Walid was leading the forces, so he dispatched a man to him saying: “Tell Khalid not to kill women or laborers”.


Anti-Islamic people often use the following verses to justify the stereotype that Islam is a religion of violence and intolerance, which was spread by the sword. The explanations here were aided by Abdullah Yusuf Ali's commentary on the Holy Quran.

Sura 8.12 "Remember thy lord has inspired the angels with the message. Give firmness to the believers and instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers. Smite them above their necks and smite the fingertips of them."

Sura 9.5 "When the sacred months have passed, kill the idolaters whereever you find them."

Sura 47.4 "When you encounter the unbelievers, Strike off their heads. Untill you have made a wide slaughter among them tie up the remaining captives."

Sura 8 is about a BATTLE - the Battle of Badr - not just some daily affair. A battles take two side to occur. Are you under the impression that while these 'horrid' Muslims were fighting, the enemies were simply standing there like good little peaceful men?

Sura 47 was revealed during the first year of Hijrah when the Muslims were under *threat of extinction* by invasion from Makkah.

Sura 9 is interesting. Non-Muslims almost invariably quote verse 5 but leave out verse 4 and 6. Why? Because verse 4 says, "But the treatires are not dissolved with those Pagans with whom you have entered into alliance and who have you subsequently failed you in aught, nor aided anyone against you. So fulfill your engagements with them to the end of their term: for God Loves the righteous."

And verse 6 says, "If one among the Pagans ask thee for asylum, grant it to him so that he may hear the Word of God; and then escort him to where he can be secure."

So basically what has been done above is:
1. The background to each sura was shown. One cannot take a verse revealed for a battle and insist it is if for the daily affairs of Muslims.

2. It was shown how Non-muslims who wish to attack Islam, conveniently leave out verses before and after their quoted verse. Above, I have shown only one of the many examples.


This long list of verses from the Holy Quran and the Traditions of Prophet Muhammad (may peace be upon him) show that Islam at it's core and at its source is a religion of peace. Terrorists who persecute innocent people because of their faith are not welcome - their use of Islam as a scapegoat, does not make Islam what they portray it to be.
2:256 There is no compulsion in religion, for the right way is clearly from the wrong way. Whoever therefore rejects the forces of evil and believes in God, he has taken hold of a support most unfailing, which shall never give way, for God is All Hearing and Knowing.

16:82 But if they turn away from you, (O Prophet remember that) your only duty is a clear delivery of the Message (entrusted to you).

6:107 Yet if God had so willed, they would not have ascribed Divinity to aught besides him; hence, We have not made you their keeper, nor are you (of your own choice) a guardian over them.

4:79, 80 (Say to everyone of them,) 'Whatever good betides you is from God and whatever evil betides you is from your own self and that We have (O Prophet) sent you to mankind only as a messenger and all sufficing is God as witness. Whoso obeys the Messenger, he indeed obeys God. And for those who turn away, We have not sent you as a keeper."

11:28 (Noah to his people) He (Noah) said "O my people! think over it! If 1 act upon a clear direction from my Lord who has bestowed on me from Himself the Merciful talent of seeing the right way, a way which you cannot see for yourself, does it follow that we can force you to take the right path when you definitely decline to take it?°

17:53, 54 And tell my servants that they should speak in a most kindly manner (unto those who do not share their beliefs). Verily, Satan is always ready to stir up discord between men; for verily; Satan is mans foe , Hence, We have not sent you (Unto men O Prophet) with power to determine their Faith.

21:107 to 109 (O Prophet?) 'We have not sent you except to be a mercy to all mankind:" Declare, "Verily, what is revealed to me is this, your God is the only One God, so is it not up to you to bow down to Him?' But if they turn away then say, "I have delivered the Truth in a manner clear to one and all, and I know not whether the promised hour (of Judgment) is near or far."

22:67 To every people have We appointed ceremonial rites (of prayer) which they observe; therefore, let them not wrangle over this matter with you, but bid them to turn to your Lord (since that is the main objective of religion). You indeed are rightly guided. But if they still dispute you in this matter, (then say,) `God best knows (the value of) what you do."

88:21, 22; also see 24:54 And so, (O Prophet!) exhort them your task is only to exhort; you cannot compel them to believe.

48:28 He it is Who has sent forth His Messenger with the (task of spreading) Guidance and the Religion of Truth, to the end that tie make it prevail over every (false) religion, and none can bear witness to the Truth as God does.

36:16, 17 (Three Messengers to their people)Said (the Messengers), "Our Sustainer knows that we have indeed been sent unto you, but we are not bound to more than clearly deliver the Message entrusted to us.'

39:41 Assuredly, We have sent down the Book to you in right form for the good of man. Whoso guided himself by it does so to his own advantage, and whoso turns away from it does so at his own loss. You certainly are not their keeper.

42:6, 48 And whoso takes for patrons others besides God, over them does God keep a watch. Mark, you are not a keeper over them. But if they turn aside from you (do not get disheartened), for We have not sent you to be a keeper over them; your task is but to preach ,

64:12 Obey God then and obey the Messenger, but if you turn away (no blame shall attach to our Messenger), for the duty of Our Messenger is just to deliver the message.

67:25, 26 And they ask, "When shall the promise be fulfilled if you speak the Truth?" Say, "The knowledge of it is verily with God alone, and verily I am but a plain warner."

60:8 Allah forbids you not, with regard to those who fight you not for (your) Faith nor drive you out of your homes, from dealing kindly and justly with them: for Allah loveth those who are just.

60:9 Allah only forbids you, with regard to those who fight you for (your) Faith, and drive you out of your homes, and support (others) in driving you out, from turning to them (for friendship and protection). It is such as turn to them (in these circumstances), that do wrong.



The teachings of the Prophet on how you and I should treat our Non-Muslim friends and neighbours on a day to day basis as well as how to government should treat a Non-Muslim citizen of a Muslim state.

"He who believes in God and the Last Day should honour his guest, should not harm his neighbour, should speak good or keep quiet." (Bukhari, Muslim)

"Whoever hurts a Non-Muslim citizen of a Muslim state hurts me, and he who hurts me annoys God." (Bukhari)

"He who hurts a Non-Muslim citizen of a Muslim state, I am his adversary, and I shall be his adversary on the Day of a Judgement." (Bukhari)

"Beware on the Day of Judgement; I shall mysefl be complainant against him who wrongs a Non-Muslim citizen of a Muslim state or lays on him a responsibility greater than he can bear or deprives him of anything that belongs to him." (Al-Mawardi)

"Anyone who kills a Non-Muslim who had become our ally will not smell the fragrance of Paradise." (Bukhari)

Kgdavid:
i intend to purchase a quran soon as i regularly engage in discussion with my muslim friends. should be interesting. the koran was written at least 500 years after christianity. most of the books of the bible were written separately and at the time period of the ccurence of the events described therein. big question is why the koran has such striking similiarites with the bible when the two books are clearly not united in their message?

Christianity is a religion that follows jesus and to my believe despite all changes that had occured in d bible,i still know that some basic truth can not be replaced,

islam in the other hand is a religion that was founded by prophet mohammed,

mohammed didn't condem any thing in the bible expect what has been tampered with,

and d Qur'an contain everything in the bible and more details,

this is a sign that prophet mohammed is a prophet sent by God to mankind just like jesus.

ha ha ha

Challenges

Wen u try and u crash
dnt cry for dat is trash
dnt ask y cos life is harsh
just be calm and neva be rash.

kip ur mind for nothin comes easy in life
and den in time u wl find dat ur mind is made to wind and bind.

nopuqeater:
@kgdavid: « #40 on: March 02, 2010, 08:27 PM » thats just part of the reasons he married many. others were to keep the women from falling into the hands of vulture like men, like you who just see them for intimacy and nothing else. some of their marriages were to cement the alliances with many potential clans who were enemies of islam, in the fledging days, ready to fight it. since many of them outlived him, they became the storytellers of his legacy, and our mothers, etc. may Allah bless them all.

yet the women described him as having the power of 30 men? are you for real, or do you think that volume is quality? their complaint was simply that they wanted to spend more time with him. afterall, when he passed away, none of them married anyone else. that should tell you something.

there is a time for intimacy and there is time for prayers. Muhammad is not like you whose existence is mere basis, almost animal like; eat and sleep and when worship, it is the wrong diety. whats your essence of being on earth?

Jesus was not wealthy. unlike Solomon, Muhammad and jesus were not wealthy. no one of the wives of Muhammad (as) said he was not a great husband, except only by the human female nature that each iwas individually jealouse, in the same way a man who ignorantly accept one wife lifestyle, while he keeps horde of girlfriends out there, wishing the society would not shortchanged his male nature.

did you hear anyone of them say she was not happy in the marriage because of his poverty? you call yourself kingdavid; could you tell me how david provided for his wife, including the wife of the man he killed so that he can take his wife, according to you and your Bible? shame on you to have accepted the name of an adulterer, killer, murderer, by your own standard.

a mere 1000m years ago, the life span of man was 24. please could you tell me what age was maturity then, if 24 was the top age, and often most died?
just the other day i saw a show on MTV, titled "16 and pregnant". they often become mothers even before 16 in the best country that the christians of the world hold on to as their pride. in the united states, there are tv programs like maury show, hosted by maury povitch where you see 12 years old or even younger girls sexually active, day in day out. if you went to Utah, in the USA, the age of marriage is even almost 10 or just above. what about the show of Jerry Springer, a former mayor of Cincinnati, Ohio, where everything goes or Steve Wilkos show, too. man, get with the program, and see how naive you are of the reality of the world, by going on Youtube. if this is today's reality, what was the reality of 1400 plus years ago? tell us man, if you lived way back then.


@GODSON2009: « #41 on: March 03, 2010, 01:46 PM » arrogance of ignorance. if muhammad (as) conferred prophethood upon himself, what was the need to wait till he was 40, instead of say the age of strenght between 25 and 35? afterall, jesus conferred godship on himself between 30 and 33 or maybe younger? i laugh at you in your mother tongue, whatever it is, godson. yet khadijah (ra) took him to waraqah ibn naf, the christian who said what he said. i think you should read what waraqah a true christian said about what muhammad (as) was about to become. that statement renders all you silliness as pure rubbish.
neither of these people's name appeared in the Quran as a protector of Muhammad and the muslims. we knw by ahadith that abitalib was a protector. khadijah was never a protector. you are now the one who lacks full knowledge, in the same fashion as the biblical Jsus, your god.

Muhammd did not leave Makka immediately his wife and or his uncle died. another person protected him, even after the death of his uncle. by the Quran and the ahadith, we know that Muhammad (as0 waited for revelation for his ZHijr, since many hijra were already made by the muslims, twice to Ethiopia and later the steady streaming of muslims to Madina from Makka. Islam of Muhammad was 13 years in makka before his own Hijr.
your point is so weak, since we saw that Baghirah the monk warned his uncle about the harm that could befall him, if he was taken to Syria as a young boy of say 8 or 9.

ridiculous ypothesis. a woman is still gender restricted even now, and in the days of Muhammad it was not different, since while Khadijah was banished to outside the city limit of Makka along with the rest of the Muslims, until the oath posted on the wall of Makka came out as it did, which was how the banishment of the muslims ended. you dont know that, or you are selective in your memory, just like Jesus of the Bible; sometimes he was god, other times he was just a prophet, yet at another a son of man.

except that his wife did not protect him. why pass lies as truth godson? and a wife as president or vice president still the wife of the husband. or in your world, she becomes your husband and you are the one now wearing the skirt?

jazakallahu khair,

huh

this is a wonderful post,


oremi u try die,

jazakallahu khair,

more of this,

music can be categorized in two categories

rock and lyrical music,

but i tell u, d best of music is a meaningful lyrical song,

saheed is better than pasuma any day,

yes pasuma is good as an entertainer,but is far from matching king saheed,

saheed produce classical song from day 1 and still maitain till date,

no comparison

what going on?

who is this wack nigga @ my head
u re wack and lack d skills to hack

wow

thanks man,

this is my first flow,

i will improve as we go
so that people will know
i have learn my lessons to flow
not just to low
when other rappers blow

which one be dis?

d malam suppose pay her for her cry join now abi?