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Ka ayi tua aro ndigbo.

Aloy+Emeka. . .Ka anyi sua Igbo. 

1025:
usa is aware of the fragile situation nigeria is in at the moment. they are aware of this pdp madness which nigerians will not accept this time arround. they know something serious is about happening in the country.

They are not worried about Nigeria in particular. The U.S. is worried about a particular region in Nigeria and that is the Niger Delta. Goodluck Jonathan is the glue that is preventing a nightmare for Western powers in the Niger Delta.

The Niger Delta is almost fully behind in Goodluck Jonathan. This region is the most important region in Nigeria.

homerac7:
Too many ignorant posts in reply to adrenaline sparked senseless conspiracy theorist post.

It doesnt take much education to know dt its an usual naval tradition all over d world to visit friendly countries. A little "googling" will show u how many nations had their navies visit just last year alone. D fact dt d US dispatched a mere frigate shows a relegated naval priority on us as a nation. A "bigger" nation would hav had a cruiser or destroyer visit. Normally, d pride of d visiting navy is on display. Such visits are usually marked wt a lot of activities as joint execise, partying and side shows.

It is a dull reasoning to think dt d US navy wld need to send a mere frigate for intelligience gathering in Nigeria. They hav numerous sattelites to do dt and if it must be by a vessel, dey hav d most sophisticated mapping and under-water intelligiece submarines.

Its a duller opinion to question d quoted number of personel aboard a frigate ship. How many personels/men do u think man a frigate optimally? Do u think a frigate is a canoe or keke-marwa? Then what would u do if an Enterprise class air-craft carrier is on visit? The sheer number of abt 5000 sailors on it wld make get a heart attack. Not mentioning is when a battle group sits or passes around your territorial water wt abt 10,000 sailing personel.

Lastly, d poster's gross display of ignorance is shown when he declared Britain as d naval prime superpower. Does he think we r ind days of Admiral Nelson in d battle of Traffalgar? Guy, wake up to d US extra-ordinary naval superiority. D UK cant even match d aged Russian Navy, while u r there wanking away at some figments of sick imagination.

I pity you. You do not understand the world that you are living in and that is sad. There is no conspiracy here, Nigerians should wonder why a US warship is approaching our coast during this pivotal moment in Nigerian history.

Use your mind once, before you comment.

He could make a name for himself in another party.

Tinubu has too many problems.

Aloy+Emeka are you Igbo? The reason why I ask is that you could not read the simple Igbo sentences.

[quote author=aloy-emeka link=topic=639974.msg8066386#msg8066386 date=1302107488]Is African China Igbo?[/quote]Yes he is Igbo, but he was raised in Lagos.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kB8O5r1KJg&feature=related

A very good song for those who hear Igbo.

Igbo man marries a Fulani woman. Very good!

Very misleading title. It should be Oba. Why use an Igbo name?

[quote author=dell_net link=topic=638143.msg8047849#msg8047849 date=1301908940]I wonder what kind of brain you have, pleep! it probably pleeps all the time.[/quote]Why attack pleep? He is right. Arabs still enslave Africans not only in Mauritania but also in Sudan as well.

People should be worried, because the US is quite worried about Nigeria's upcoming elections. They have been stating that in news lately that Nigeria's election are pivotal to U.S. national security.

Denis Diderot: 'Man will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of the last priest.'

I agree with the OP.

Nchara:
PhysicsMHD:

There is an Igala Igbo connection. There is an intermingling of northern anambra Igbo and Igalas. You hardly know who is Igbo there. The name Attah is both Igbo and Igalla.

There has been mingling among various groups. It depends on who borders you.

Igbo-Igala
Igbo-Bini
Igbo-Ibibio
Igbo-Idoma
Igbo-Kalabari
Igbo-Ijaw
Igbo-Isoko

etc etc etc

Looking to a European to solve your problem. Have you lost your mind Musiwa? Now you asking the help from those who colonized our precious continent? Have you no shame?

This is imperialism of the highest form.

The man has done well in the state. Even though his politics is questionable, look at the infrastructure development that can be found in the city.

Akwa Ibom state is wealthy. Unemployment is low, infrastructure is improving and the state is progressing. Why do people complain about Akpabio?

Will this be a new Warri Crisis? Who owns Warri needs to be settled once in for all. Is it the Urhobo, Ijaw or Itsekiri?

Ijaw Youths Threaten to Sabotage Polls


By Emma Arubi
EGBEMA Ijaw youths have vowed to make the April polls impracticable in Warri North council area over what they termed as gross marginalization by the state governor, Dr. Emmanuel Uduaghan.

The youths accused the state government of failing to carry them along since its inception.

They also accused Governor Uduaghan of failing to caution some of his Itsekiri aides who they claimed have been disrespectful to some of their leaders, expressing regret that some Itsekiri youths came to disrupt a crucial meeting they were holding last weekend, at one of their leader’s residence in Enerhen which almost led to a free-for-all.
Some of the Ijaw leaders who spoke to Vanguard on condition of anonymity over the alleged incident said, however, that the Itsekiri youths did not go there to foment trouble as claimed. They maintained that they only went to have a word with the governor, noting that it was communication breakdown that almost led to a fracas but was promptly aborted.

Speaking on the issue, an Itsekiri youth leader at the scene told Vanguard that it was not true that they went to foment trouble in the home of the Ijaw leader. He said it was not in their character to do that. He said it did not happen and advised the Ijaw youths to embrace the Itsekiri as their real brothers in the area.

The Ijaw youths from Egbema community in Warri North who stated that they were not impressed with the performance of Governor Uduaghan as it pertains to political patronage so far, included Messrs Blackman Mike from Opuama; Tamaremi Tiemo of Tsekelewu; Wilfred Elebiri of Ogbinbiri and Ekios Gorroh of Ogbudugbudu communities respectively.

They called on Governor Uduaghan to correct these anomalies in practical terms or they would make the April polls in Warri North impracticable as they no longer have full confidence on him to protect their interest.

naijaking1:
It's possible Igbos descended from Yorubas, or vis versa.

I really doubt that. Most anthropologist believe that the Igbo, Idoma, Igala and Yoruba are descendants of a common ancestor.

Thank you for someone else bringing up the Aro Confederacy. I didn't want to bring my people up, because it would seem that some do not like to hear about the powerful Aro kingdom in the East.

[quote author=ekt_bear link=topic=638211.msg8054088#msg8054088 date=1301973868]It isn't Western views, though. It applies everywhere. . . Europe, Asia, Africa, Inca Empire, etc, etc. Great peoples build sophisticated societies. Major towns, cities. . .trade centers. Something. Conquer a bunch of land. Make their imprint on their environs known. "Numerous villages" doesn't really fit that pattern. That is why I think something happened in the 1800s.

Probably someone like PhysicsQED who knows Nigerian history (and might know Igbo history) will know the answer. Hopefully he posts.

EDIT: Anyway, this new direction is a major derailment of the thread. So I'll stop now.[/quote]It is definitely Western views. I think you need to read The African Origin of Civilization: Myth or Reality by Cheikh Anta Diop. That should open your eyes. Most African groups did not form the sort of cities that you are thinking of. Most of the African groups that created these cities were influenced in one way or the other by the arrival of the Arabs in Africa.

If you look at the major African empires, most of them were either influenced by Arabs and Islamic culture. But as you move South, you will see most of the African groups did not have these major cities, but settlements. The powerful Zulu did not have major cities, but they did have a lot of people. The same goes for the Xhosa as well.

Most African groups did not go out in conquer, like Europeans or Asians, because we had no need to do so. The African states that did conquer such as the Ashanti and Dahomey were influenced by the arrival of Europeans who demanded slaves.

And I am not saying numerous villages, I am stating numerous settlements. Birth rates have always been high in Igboland since time immemorial. It is ingrained in our culture to have as many children as possible. Plus, we Igbos were never migratory. So of course, with an abundance of food, we would be able to sustain or population.

^^^

I guess you haven't realized the power of the internet. Look at how it was used in Tunisia, Egypt, Iran and now Jordan and Syria.

[quote author=ekt_bear link=topic=638211.msg8054048#msg8054048 date=1301972871]But how could you have been so numerous and still not had any structures on the ground in the 1700s and 1800s? Or 1600s? Especially in such a small piece of land? No major cities to speak of? Places like Oyo have been known to non-Africans for a long time. Kano has likely been known by Arabs, North Africans, possibly Europeans since like the 1200s. Why no comparable city in Igboland in even the 1500s or 1600s?

That is why I think something changed recently, within the past 150 years. Maybe you guys farmed some poor agricultural product, then through trade got one that thrived a lot more. Something like this would lead to a population explosion.[/quote]Look at the topography of Alaigbo and you will understand why the Igbos were so numerous. Keep in mind not all Igbo clans had a lot of people. The clans found in Ebonyi and Enugu did not have the amount of Igbos compared to Anambra and Imo. To be honest, I think it was the fertility of the soil that was found in the Anambra valley and other areas in modern day Imo state, that increased crop yields. With larger crop yields, the Ndigbo were able to increase their numbers.

It is hard to use Western views on civilization and the progress of humanity for all people around the world. The Igbo were just different in how our society and civilization rose. Igbos chose to live in numerous villages instead of forming large towns. That is how our society developed.

[quote author=ekt_bear link=topic=638211.msg8053911#msg8053911 date=1301969946]Question for Igbos I have: How and why are there so many of you? What exactly caused it? Was there some sort of population explosion after you guys started interacting with the white man? I don't think you guys could have been the most numerous ethnic group in the 1700s or so. . . otherwise you'd have had more structures on the ground (major cities, etc.) So I'm kind of curious what happened.

Or maybe less negatively affected by the slave trade. . . ? I dunno.[/quote]The Igbo population has always been large. Even during the height of the slave trade, there will still plenty of Igbos. We Igbos were impacted greatly by slavery, in which many Igbos were taken from our shores. I am pretty sure if they were not taken, that Igbos would be the most numerous group in Africa in general. Large families are quite common amongst the Igbo. Even educated Igbos often have large families. My father and mother are well educated and they had 5 children.

After the war as well, there was a sudden boom in Igbos being born. Many Igbos seen that they had to repopulate in order to replace those who were lost.

There are way too many Anambra Igbos. That is the true Igbo heartland. The cradle of Igbo civilizaiton. We periphery Igbos just wonder, why they are so many of them.

@Beaf, it is ok, Delta State will always be behind Rivers State. I am glad Rivers state is shining over the rest of the county, but more work needs to be done. I salute Amaechi!

[quote author=Ileke-IdI link=topic=638781.msg8053977#msg8053977 date=1301971189]When has he used violence and how quick was his rxn? Correct me, I'm a bit behind on Nigeria's news lately.

You hope he adopts OBJ and Y'ardua's level of violence, but yet you think their (O and Y) level of violence was horrible. I'm lost.[/quote]I meant to say he has used violence, but it nothing compared to what was seen under Yar'Adua or Obsasanjo.

[quote author=Ileke-IdI link=topic=638781.msg8053965#msg8053965 date=1301970965]Are you sure?

Has he used any force against the ND militants during their recent parades? Talkless of "quick" lol[/quote]He has used force in some instances, but the level of violence that could be seen under Obasanjo and Yar'Adua's tenure was horrible.

[quote author=Ileke-IdI link=topic=638781.msg8053955#msg8053955 date=1301970732]So that's your MAIN reason you're Pro-GEJ?

If not, name the basic ones.[/quote]My main reason why I support GEJ is because I want someone who has the best chances of fixing the problems within the Niger Delta. He is best suited to do that than Buhari. He will not be quick to use force like Abacha or Obasanjo when dealing with his own people.