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Let me back away quietly from this thread.

All I can say is that there is a problem with Igbo marriages in the United States. In Nigeria, we treat our women like queens. An Igbo man would do anything to provide for us family. I have uncles, my father, and other relatives who honored their wives. But the "ego" has to be alright.

I feel that these Igbo men were going through financial problems and the women were berating them for this. When an Igbo man can't make money for his family, he goes CRAZY!

THE AMAKA:

[color=#cc00cc]well. . . I'm from the most core(i think) Igbo State. . . so.[/color] 

And what is the most core Igbo state?

My dear, I think you should marry an Igbo man from back home so you get in touch with your culture.

THE AMAKA:
[color=#cc00cc]NO.
I don't know much about Igbo Land so educate me a little. . .
Ngwaland is in what state?[/color]

Akata Igbo. . .

It is in Abia.

Ileke-Idi,

It seems like your Yoruba men have a problem with inter-tribal dating. What happend to "One Naija?"

So it is fine for your men to hound Igbo women, but when it is the other way around, it is blasphemy? lol

Aigbofa:
Whoa!!!  My sister is on fire tonight. I say go girl!! But that part about not following a Nigeria man, don't do it.
Even if you marry EzeUche, he wouldn't dare mess with you, we will make everybody in his village pay.

I guess you haven't heard of Arochuku!  

As my signature shows, we used to be the true power in the East! Not only amongst Igbos, but Ibibios and Efiks and other Eastern groups. They would not dare to come to Arochuku unless they want to lose their heads.

[quote author=~Bluetooth link=topic=485379.msg6448081#msg6448081 date=1280110918]eze ke ? abeg forget that ibo man.there are better nigeria men out there who care although hard to see but they do exist. [/quote]Igbo men are known to treat their wives like queens unlike you Yoruba men who treat them like door mats and have outside wives.

Yoruba men are notorious to have wives on the side!

And with the way I look, I could get any cute Yoruba woman I choose! You Yoruba guys go crazy when I am with your women.

[quote author=Ileke-IdI link=topic=485379.msg6448074#msg6448074 date=1280110712]Florida contains not only white and Nigerian men. Thank God for that lol

And thank God that men like EzeUche are not allowed in Fl[/quote]You seen my pics. . . I was in Florida earlier this year.  

[quote author=Ileke-IdI link=topic=485379.msg6448060#msg6448060 date=1280110476]You can tell he's a bush boy.

"The role you play in NIgeria". . . can you imagine

[/quote]Who d hell you calling "bush?"

U dun lost ur mind.

[quote author=~Bluetooth link=topic=485379.msg6448054#msg6448054 date=1280110379]that is why i'm warning my sister.who knows maybe you are also violent [/quote]Maybe that is why my nickname is Okonkwo.

I am a ladies man who demands respect.

THE AMAKA:
[color=#cc00cc]
Give it another 12 months.[/color]

Are you by chance from Ngwaland? 

Since those women are known for that. Being rude. . .

THE AMAKA:
[color=#cc00cc]no thanks.[/color]

Chei! Rejected. . .

[quote author=~Bluetooth link=topic=485379.msg6448038#msg6448038 date=1280110066]ileke-idi,abeg no follow eze o. . .[/quote]

Of course it would be, since there are more Igbos in the states!

[quote author=Ileke-IdI link=topic=485379.msg6448035#msg6448035 date=1280109998]cheii!!!! From "Men have needs" to "The roles they play in NIgeria". . . . anywaz, moving on.[/quote]You are a case of when feminism goes wrong. I tell my friends back home do not bring their girlfriends or wives over if they value their health and sanity. Knowing what these men go through, not saying that is right, but I know how they were pushed over the edge.

THE AMAKA:
[color=#cc00cc]that's not me.[/color]

The Amaka, with a name like that, I know you are fine. Ileke-idi has turned me off with that pic. Let us see yours.

[quote author=Ileke-IdI link=topic=485379.msg6448029#msg6448029 date=1280109727]Can you imagine! You have no respect for women. Where is KoboJ to come and deal with you?

Finally JOined their husband? What about the ones that brought their husband here?

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWW![/quote]I have plenty of respect for women who remember the roles that they play in Nigeria. Why act different in America? I know you have been tainted by the West unfortunately. Probably no different from the akata girls.

If the husband joins the woman, the wife will never let him forget that it was she who brought him over. Always throwing it in the guys face. Emasculating the man!

[quote author=Ileke-IdI link=topic=485379.msg6448017#msg6448017 date=1280109456]^^^bullshoit. What a freaking sexist.

Funny thing is, Nigerian men are always the one holding the weapons. I swear, if I marry one of you guys, I'll have a gun in each room in the house, location known only to me. Useless group of men.[/quote]You explain why Nigerian men are killing their wives

This rate is becoming alarming and I think it is you women who are causing the problems. I have seen many Nigerian marriages end when the women finally join their husbands in the U.S. It is horrible. Even my own parents had problems when they first arrived.

You bring a Nigerian woman to America and she goes crazy!

There were a large amount of Igbos living in the U.S. so of course it would be more incidences though since Igbo flocked to America, Yorubas flocked to the UK. But of course it will cross tribal boundaries since Nigerian women in general go crazy in the U.S.

Beaf:
You can believe what you like, but always make sure it is grounded in fact. Fiction makes you your own worst enemy.
The cry for Anioma state started long before Delta state was created, so you clearly have no clue of what you are talking about.

It should be the Ijaws claiming marginalisation, they have a huge population and their lands vastly enhance the GDP of Delta state (same as a couple of other groups). However, it is the Urhobo and Igbo that traditionally ally to rule Delta state.

I don't believe you. Even though I am an Aro Igbo, I feel for my fellow Igbos in Delta State.

Beaf, I already know who you are more aligned with! Remember we have battle on this board before. Let us not end our truce, because you know how I feel about your people.

Beaf:
Forget about those questions and conjurations. The facts on the ground are plain and they state that; "Urhobo's are the largest ethnic group in Delta state by a very large margin. The next largest is Ijaw, before Igbo. Isoko is the smallest, followed by Itsekiri."
Those facts run Delta state politics.

And I don't care who run Delta state politics. Every Igbo in Alaigbo understand that our cousins have been marginalized in Delta State. That is why there is a need for Anioma State. I don't believe these numbers. Whenever, it comes to counting the Igbos, it seems like authorities like to slice our numbers by at least 30%

Beaf:
Urhobo's are the largest ethnic group in Delta state by a very large margin. The next largest is Ijaw, before Igbo. Isoko is the smallest, followed by Itsekiri.

I question those numbers. Does the Delta Igbo include the Ika and Ukwuani since these two groups sometimes not considered Igbo, even though their language is Igbo by all accounts.

And it seems that if you look at the map I just presented, the Delta Igbo clearly have the most land in the state. I don't know the population density, but it would seem that they have a great influence.

Maybe Delta Igbo numbers were cut in half since it was them who suffered the most during the civil war. Whole villages being wiped out.

And would the Isoko be lumped in with the Urhobo who are all descendants of the Bini?

Thank God he is getting rid of the road blocks. This is good news. Even though I never had to worry about these police checkpoints thanks to my uncle's FG tags, they were still a nuisance.

As someone commented on the video, that is a bygone era. In which even the officers had a sense of pride.

cap28:
The July 66 coup was a revenge attack by northern officers who had been manipulated by the british into beleiving that the January coup was an igbo coup. The January 66 coup was actually a nationalist revolution aimed at toppling british appointed puppets. The british knew that the only way they could crush a nationalist movement in nigeria was to stoke the flames of tribalism by pitting the igbos against the northerners and making the igbos scapegoats that is how they succeeded in crushing the nationalist revolutionary movement which had been planned by Ifeajuna, Nzeogwu and various other officers.

The likes of Babangida, Murtala Mohammed, Obasanjo, Danjuma et al were rewarded for returning nigeria back to the british and this is why they have remained rich and powerful to date.

Gbam!

Whenever I hear that murderous Murtala Mohammed's name. It makes my blood boil. I am so glad he was humuliated by our brave Biafran soldiers.

Even though my father was not involved in that military confrontation at Abagana since he was defending Onitsha at the time. He will still tell me how his comrades sent that murderous man reeling!

Abagana the greatest battle during the whole war besides the siege of Onitsha.

Whenever I talk to my Itsekiri friends, they always say that they hate the Ijaw and don't trust them after the Warri Crisis.

Just look at the Delta State ethnic map.

And look at the core Delta Igbo areas: Ika, Aniocha, and Ukwuani

Bini Influenced people: Urhobo and Isoko

Yoruba influenced people: Itsekiri

& finally the Ijaw who are mostly confined to Bayelsa, but are found in some numbers in small areas of Rivers and Delta State.

Na wa o! I did not know Becomrich0 was a tribalist. I thought he wanted his Yoruba brethren to secede from Nigeria and join the Benin Republic even though most of the people in that country are descendants of the Dahomey!

Now he is trying to say that there are not many Delta Igbos in Delta State. The Igbos of delta state are by the far the largest group in the state. They are just not united so that is why the gov't haven't given them their own state. Once they speak with one voice, ANIOMA STATE will be created and you will see the true number of the Western Igbo. We Igbos are not just East of the Niger, we are also West of it. Just like there are Igbos in Benue State and Cross River.

Devolution of Power In Nigeria

By Olukayode Akingbogun

My fellow countrymen and women, today i was ruminating over the many problems Nigeria and its citizens have been faced with over five decade. To say that the source of our problems are the very leaders we have had the misfortune to have would be an understatement. Recently, Mallam Ribadu made claims that state governors and their acolytes carted away $10 Billion every month during his time at the EFCC. Even the strongest of economies cannot withstand that amount of money flying out of their economy, without disastrous consequences. If Ribadu thought this was going to provide him some positive image, i'm happy to disappoint him, 'cos it only goes a long way to show how inadequate, ineffective and suspect his methods of combating corruption was at the time.

Now that is not the point of this blog. I have suddenly realised that, Nigeria with all of its complexities is backing down the wrong alley with respect to its desire for democratic rule. Many people have asked whether it is wise and reasonable for Nigeria to practice democracy, and if at all it should be the presidential style of self rule. My thirst for civil rule at a point in time covered my eyes to the inappropriateness of presidential form of government to the Nigerian situation. What is good for the goose is not often good for the gander sometimes. It is estimated that contrary to our believe that Nigeria's population is approximately 160 million, we have far exceeded that tally to a more reasonable tally of about 210 million people (albeit not according to our suspect population census).

To my understanding we have 774 local government councils in Nigeria, which make up the 36 states and the Federal Capital Territory. Seeing that the Presidential system of government is proving too difficult for our politicians to practice, it is my candid opinion that there is the need now more than ever, for power at the centre to be devolved immensely for the benefit of the ordinary Nigerians at the grassroots.

The idea is to scrap the three tier system of government, and replace it with a two tier system. So we have power at the federal level, and much more power and responsibilities at the local government levels. The benefit of doing this is immense. First and foremost, it reduces the cost of governance. Secondly, it reduces the duplication of roles between the federal, state and local government executive arm of government. In other words, rather than local government council chairmen serving as stooges and doormats for the state governors, they can actually serve as the conduit through which federal government policies and processes will be delivered to the people at the grassroots directly. There will be no need for state ministeries, rather each local government will have its own departments responsible for delivering federal government instructions, policies and acts of law to the people directly.

I know that devolution of power will have far reaching consequences, but the benefits far outstrips the disadvantages. For example, the cost of conducting elections will be drastically reduced, since there will be no need to conduct elections for state governors. Salaries for state governors will varnish, as well as those of their commissioners, special advisers etc. Furthermore, there is a real potential of reaching out effectively to many more people at the grassroots level. dividends of democracy will reach these people faster and effectively than currently obtains.

By far the biggest suggestion on the back of devolution of power will be the abolition of a single president for our country Nigeria. In recent times the whole country has been innundated with the saga of rotation of the presidency amongst the ethnic groupings, The North is seemingly aggrieved that they haven't served the full term of presidency (as if there was a natural guarantee that the incumbent would/should have won such an election in a free and fairly organised election) due to the demise of Umaru Yar'Adua. Personally, i believe that we as a nation have failed to embrace the moral lessons the almighty God is trying to convey to us, which is that, 'only God disposes while we continue to propose'. Anyhow, since Nigeria has six geo - political zones (North East, North Central, North West, South East, South South and South West), why can we not have one representative for each of these zones to form a National Government of Consensus (NGC)?

The chairmanship of this committee/group is rotational, so that each of the six representatives serves a year as the chairman of the committee, and by inference is the president of Nigeria for the year he serves as the chairman of the committee. Now, that will solve a lot of the problems being encountered in our electoral system. For one, each zone is responsible for electing its representative, and each zone knows they have an equal stake in the governance of our country Nigeria. Obviously, power is shared amongst the six representatives, and decisions will have to be made democratically. This reduces enormously the power wielded by the president of Nigeria.

In conjunction with having local government councillors, each local government should be entitled to 10 lawmakers at the centre. There should be two assemblies as it currently obtains. So five will contest for the lower house and five for the upper house. The one term of office should be six years for all those who contest and win elective office irrespective of what position they contest for. As a nation, Nigerians know their history. We know that southern and Northern protectorates were amalgamated in 1914 to form what we know today as nigeria. Those agitating for a break up of the country are only being selfich and mischievous. All we need to do right now is to form a consensus as to how we really want to govern our country, to gether in unity. If everyone is assured that they have an proportional stake in Nigeria, nobody will agitate for a break up., and thus no one tribe will feel that it is being cheated in any shape or form.

Nigerians have co - existed for many years successfully, and aside for minor skirmishes can continue to do so for the forseeable future.The time has come for the Nigerian youth to arise and live up to his responsibilities. Nigeria needs its youths to take up the mantle of leadership. Nigeria needs its old and tired politicians to go into hin=bernation. They have done what they are capable of in terms of moving nigeria foward, and whether good or bad, only history can judge them. For how long will our elders continue to prevent the youth of our nation fromassuming the mantle of leadership in nigeria. Nobody, young or old is a monopoly of ideas. Our elders have doen their bit, its time for others to have a go at it.

Nigeria is a very large country, with a very large population. It therefore dictates that, as a country we need to adapt our ways to reflect the complexities of a large country such as Nigeria. We have attempted some other forms of government in the past as well as the one we are currently trying out. There is no shame in us turning round and saying, 'let's try something else'. Of course, there are some who will resist change for purely selfish reasons. Theyare not agents of progress, and so they don't count. With a unanimous stand they would have to shape up or ship out. Those are he two options available. The era of us decieving oursleves must end. We muist start exploring alternative ways to make the lives of our citizens more meaningful, more worthwhile of  being Nigerians.