₦airaland Forum

oyb:
i am assuming you're ibo - and your hausa friend - ( those gworo chewing murderers - how can u be friends with them ) told you this - what new fable can we expect

Na waa for you. Why would assume that he is Igbo ? Dude said this in the past :

boy t:
I am from the North West, but i think the poster is an slowpoke for posting that ibos are trying to claim ND: I think ND needs Strong IBOS to protect them from this OMONILE -corrupt & double face Yoruba people. the ND should not allow others to come in between them, they can work good with each other. i lived 6 years in PH and ABA and 5 years in Yoruba land

olafolarin:
What role did the Yoruba's played in the civil war?Obasanjo as the last commander of the Nigerian forces,lead the largest and final attack on the Biafran Army.Thousands of lives were lost .The same OBJ contested for 1999 elections and won with huge votes in all eastern states while he lost in his ward,village,contituency and state.

I think the biafrans cant read within the line.Yorubas love and accommodate everybody.Biafras problem is BIAFRA itself.

So what ? You want to tell easterners who to vote for or what ?

olafolarin:
In 1999 PDP lost in all SW states.OBJ got majority vote in East and North.Because of that ineptitude,Nigeria is today 10 years backwards.






You must be living in a fool's paradise.Awolowo(like  many politicians of his era )did nothing to worsen Biafra's case.
Can you please tell me anything Awolowo did against you fools.

And what did the AD state governors achieve after their victory ? PDP was simply the better and more inclusive party than the AD in 1999 . There is no evidence to suggest that Olu Falae would have been better than Obj if he had won. He lost fair and square.

Nobody owes you any explanation or apology for voting PDP in 1999 by the way.

Onlytruth, OBJ won fair and square in the east. Those that feel agrieved that Olu Falae lost in the east should go jump into a lake.

my dozie:
i think Gowon is truly sorry 4 his past and should be 4given.What i look at is the state of mind of one.Gowon has been a very good man i must say but in those days he truly had bad advisers who misguided him in his numerous decisions.But ordinarily,he's a kind-hearted man like Shehu Shagari and should be 4given.

I have a similar opinion as well.  Some people installed Gowon  in the first place and I think that his hands were somehow tied, but I believe that the civil war would have been averted if he had stopped the killing of innocent civilians from the east, following the the counter coup and the cleansing in the armed forces.

At a time when northern civilians in the east were given military escort back to the north, the easterners were ambushed and killed even on their way home.

The war itself was mass-killing-sanctioned.

My mum escaped death on two occasions. The technique of Nigerian pilots were to bomb and strafe every occupied area regardless of whether they were occupied by civilians or not.

On the first occasion, a bomb was dropped in our compound in Umuahia but it failed to detonate by God's grace. The Biafran forces were called to remove the unexploded bomb.

On the second occasion, she was at the market when the strafing started. She hid behind a huge oji (iroko) which took some of the machinegun bullets and shrapnels from the bomb. Many died that day.

My dad was on admission in Aba General Hospital when it was bombed. Many people died that day as well.

After the war, many northern soldiers left with human trophies. Yes, they forcefully took some people as "WOW", wives of war.

Although Gowon was in charge of the war that oversaw the mass murder of innocent people, I believe that Rwanda would have been like a tea party if  Murtala Muhammed or Awolowo was the Head of State.

Even when Gowon declared "No victor, No vanquished" Awolowo launched an economic offensive when he seized Igbo money in the bank and gave them no more than £20 regardless of how much they had in the banks.

I will advise my Igbo brethren to forgive Gowon as he has apologised in his own way.

As for Ojukwu refusing £600,000 in aid from Britain, I stand shoulder to shoulder with him on that. If Britain meant well, they should have stopped supplying arms to Nigeria.

Again, I do not blame Britain for having an ally in Nigeria at that time, but to turn around and offer food to victims of their alliance was disgraceful. Ojukwu's message was simple, "you can't be my friend and foe at the same time" No need for crocodile sympathy.

To all those that gloat, you may have won the war but you sure did not win the battle. Our bouncebackability will continue to astound you. Our braveness; dishearten you. Our success; your envy.

Many years after total destruction, we have self-helped and rebuilt. Nearly all our villages are electrified through self-help and they receive electricity when Nepa gives it. Yes, that is why we troop to the east en masse during xmas to help develop our villages.

When they tried to keep us down by classifying us as educationally advantaged, we built the first two state universities to cater for our needs. Like hydra, we grew other heads where one head was chopped.

We need no apology from anyone. You fought for what you believed in and employed the tactics you felt were good for you and we defended our own. What we don't need is barefaced lies.

As for me, Biafra was well worth it and the loss was minimal compared to what would have happened to former Biafrans if they did not stand to fight.

No regrets there, the battle was well fought and we did not lose in shame.

To our fallen heroes from Umuahia, Enugu, Calabar, Port-Harcourt, Ikot Ekpene, Owerri, Yenagoa, Onitsha (Former eastern region), may your souls rest in peace.

Abeem:
If you want us to contribute intelligently to your poser, please inform us the State you have in mind and whether or not you business man is also into politics. It is not helpful if you write or speak in the abstract.

Edoyad's original question was very clear and he did not need to provide the state for you to be able to make your point. Why would you have different answers for different states if you are not biased ?

You were merely seeking an attack or defensive line when you sought to know the state in question.

His caption ". .good For The Goose Is Good For. ." says it all.

The moment we sincerely replace state of origin with state of residence, things will start falling into place.

Equal opportunity for all should really be our aim at this point.

I get your point though. The fed xter thing is retrogressive.

Kobo is somewhere ROTFLAMAOing and LOLing.

S/he is an interesting character, eventhough annoying. She is unflinching in her views and doesn't do compromise. Argues from a biased standpoint and acts holier than thou. It was because of people like her that the term "chief complainant" exists.

Maybe we all silently like her. Dislike is love's cousin you know.

Please what's rumuigbo do ikwrz cal children rumu. Self denial is the height of stupidity. Well igboz are not looking for numbers. Any person that denies us can go no be by force. Afterall majority of ikwrz don't behave like us. They even sell their fathers lands to buy drinks and are generally lazy (majority of them)

Revolt,

Very unfair statement. I do not think that there is any where that was developed solely by the indigene. Lands must be sold and bought or taken by force for development to take place.

Same thing is also said about Owerri and Umuahia indigene and even the famous Omo oni Iles in Lagos. In life, you must use what you have to achieve what you want and land it is in the case of indigene. Go to any city (including your home city) and ask what proportion of land in that city is owned by indigene.

If any of them should sell land to you, rather than mocking them, you have to be grateful that God placed you in a position to be a buyer of land rather being a seller.

Chinenye, everyone knows that Igbo language and culture are not homogeneous across the board.

Now if you are saying that he has Ikwerre parentage but has referred to himself as Igbo on several occasions, do you not find it strange that he should admonish someone else who like him, also aknowledged his own Ikwerre roots and also emphasised that he was Igbo as well ?

I find it ambiguous that someone could claim to be from two different geographical locations with equal tenacity. Yes, I know each parent could be from any of those areas but when that applies, it is only proper to disambiguate such claims by specifying how you are from both areas at the same time.

bk/babe90:
Well, wut can I say? typical Ibo, tryn to claim everything that belongs to others!!!

I do not have time for your infantile rants. Rest assured that I have lowered my standards by responding to you.

ChinenyeN:
How did he try to pass himself off as Ikwerre?

@ikwerre#1.ozila ny'iwhuroha zi nu nairaland.dieli.m'bu nwo wali rumuigbo.meka

why must you impersonate?ikwerres are simply rivers people.we acknowdledge our similarities but not to say that we are you.you are you and we are us.ikwerre#1 you are igbo.

In the first quote, he claimed to be from Rumuigbo.(Ikwerre land)

In the second quote, he separated Ikwerre and Igbo into two camps. He went further and placed Ikwerre1 into the Igbo camp and placed himself into the Ikwerre camp. “we acknowdledge our similarities but not to say that we are you.you are you and we are us.ikwerre#1 you are igbo.”

All I wanted to point out was that those that live in glasshouses should not throw stones.

I really did not owe you any explanation and did not think that I would have had to break down his statements like ABC for anyone, as they were quite clear. However, I would have been happy to explain to Egheleghe if he had asked for one.

Quote from: egheleghe on Yesterday at 07:21:29 PM

why must you impersonate?ikwerres are simply rivers people.we acknowdledge our similarities but not to say that we are you.you are you and we are us.ikwerre#1 you are igbo.

You are accusing someone of the very offence you are committing. You tried to pass yourself off as Ikwerre just to reinforce your point, but you forgot that you have claimed to be Igbo (Oru in Imo State) on several occasions. When did Ndi Oru become Ndi Ikwerre ? Let Ikwerre speak for themselves.

@ibime.oru is igbo.thats my tribe and its not lost like some people believe.

@sumime,if an average igbo man marries in his 50's,then an average igbo man in his late twenties like me wouldnt have patternal great grand dad.MAYBE,HE IS OVER 200 YEARS OLD!!!.
N.B.those traders you under-estimate there academic credentials might be more qualified than you are.at least i'm sure of some from my state imo which is by far the most educationally developed state in nigeria.VERIFY

ndu_chucks:
The earlier you learnt that in a negotiation, you don't necesarily get all you want and must give and take, the better for you. The alternative to peaceful negotiations is force - some of you people who have learnt nothing from the civil war, seem to be advocating force by your rigidity and lack of understanding of what negotiations mean.

Everyone knows that the aim of any negociation is to reach a common ground. However, any negociation based on false premise is bound to fail from the start.

Continue gloating about the civil war as if another one is a threat.

"The He-goat wey dem carry go market get bia-bia, the man wey carry am go market get bia-bia too, but na when market start we go know who carry who come"

ndu_chucks:
@Ibime, The question I meant to ask you is as follows: What other natural resources do you have in the Niger Delta besides oil, and how have those been developed? Once again, if you don't have an answer, just state as such.


@Ibime and FACE, your irrelevant rants about off topic issues will be ignored. If you have not yet figured it out, the point I am trying to drive in your skull is that, resource control has to be negotiated in the appropriate manner among interested parties. It behooves interested parties to negotiate from a position of strength, which will come through an understanding of the strong views of other stake holders.

You will never be given 100% resource control as you expect without employing the most sophisticated negotiating tools available to you. An important component of these tools is an understanding of the realities of what you cannot have, unless you are willing to use force.
You can keep dreaming all you want.

You keep referring to the use of force as if it's a dare. If that is the stand point of your representatives, you will be disappointed when that time finally arrives as it may well come to that. With a mind like yours, you really deserve to be described as parasitic.

ndu_chucks:
ngwanu, I admit prematurely jumping into the conclusion that you are from the Niger Delta area. I apologize for that - there is nothing inferior about being from the Niger Delta by the way.

Some sort of federation is in order with full resource control and an appropriate amount of tax. I would however exclude oil and gas resources discovered, drilled, and marketed, with the financial resources of Nigeria. I'd be OK with 100% control of newly discovered oil, as long as the states used their own resources to discover the oil. All existing oil will remain the property of the federal government. All offshore oil found and not yet found must remains the property of the federal government.

Lazy south/south states that have invested absolutely nothing, should gain nothing from existing oil wells.

Obviously you think that it is inferior to be from Niger delta, otherwise you wont make that patronising statement without any form of provocation or pressure to declare that they are not inferior. That came straight out of the blue and reflects your true feelings and I don't need to be a psychologist to tell that.

Furthermore, you went ahead and called them lazy and callously stated that they should gain nothing from existing oil wells because you think that they have invested nothing.

You forget the human lives they have invested and are still investing. Yes, some will die early death because they drink from polluted water. Some will not be able to farm because they have lost their farm lands. Yes, they are investing but not by choice as they would not knowingly destroy their other means of livelihood because they want oil to flow. If they invested by choice, oil would still flow but they would make oil companies to act the way the oil companies act while taking oil from Scotland i.e without destroying the environment in the process.

Talking about lazy, we all know who is lazy in Nigeria, refusing to go to school (even with all the quota system and educationally disadvantaged rubbish) begging shamelessly on our streets and embarking on killing spree at the slightest drop of hat.

With regards to Nigeria investment in oil exploration, let me see. Hmmm, O.K the centre can have back N10,000 (quite generous) cost for the pen and papers they used for signing MOUs with the oil companies. But wait a minute. No, the federal govt should first refund the millions of dollars their agents have stolen from oil revenue.

Resource control means resource control without exceptions. Why do you think that you are going to die without oil ? Very strange and lazy mindset.

By the way, SS governors are in the minority. The real stumbling block to the filling of the power vacuum in Abuja is the North.

Quote from: ndu_chucks on Today at 01:03:15 PM
[b]I have been wasting my time trying to have a reasonable discussion with you people. Your statements above makes one think that you are simpletons and ignoramuses.   Let me inform you that there are house/senate rules that must be followed and several motions voted upon before an issue is finally brought to the full senate for debate and voting.  Specifically, there are committees that must first agree to table issues for discussions in the commitees befores the issues can ever be tabled on the full floor for debate. If you don't know that a handful of senators can stall procedings, then you people are not very bright.

Here is your homework: go and find out which south/south senators belong to the commitees responsible for initiating the actions that could make Jonathan the acting president. Once you have that answer, things will be clearer to you. It is not enough to wish your points away, you need to know the facts.
Divide and rule is the new keyword that you people are using to support your denials, ko? Continue to bury your heads in the sand, until kudunkudu(or guluso - that ant-like creature that walks backwards that lives in the sand) gouges your eyes out. I noticed that people like Dede1 have come to offer you moral support on the one hand, while  calling you people idiots and fools on the other.   Serves you right.

Your dear governor Diepreye Alamieyeseigha is currently praying that the court compel the Federal Government and the National Assembly to reinstate him as the governor of the state. I suppose pointing out that that man is a thief that belongs in jail will be tantamount to using a divide and rule tactic on you. Dan tselewa!

@Wily+Wily, what will be the location of you suicide when your favourite daughter elopes and marries a hausa-fulani man?[/b]


Ndu_chuks, I have no time for dimwits and would not waste my time addressing their (your) silly aspersions.

If there is no provision in the Constitution to enable Jonathan becoming acting president, what legal standing would your fictitious (mainly in your mind) "committee" have discussing that possibility? O.K, lets assume you are correct, are you trying to say that the SS committee members are in the majority, Dan Iska duru -uwa dan tselewa mahukaci (you probably think you have a monopoly to expletives, just like your murderous knife wielding brethren, banzan yaro iska) ?

I am from the SE, Umuahia to be precise and I have defended people from all corners of Nigeria. I believe in equity and know where I stand on issues. Just because I have said that Jonathan should act if Yaradua is unable to does not automatically make a Bayelsan or Alamieseigha my governor.

Yes you are correct, Yaradua has not violated the Constitution in any way. He is simply unable to act on or violate the Constitution because he is either dead or does not have any control of his awareness.

I believe in the following and I would like to know where you stand:

1. Full resource control with 20% tax to the centre (loose federation)
2. State of residence rather than state of origin
3. Equal opportunity and merit in place of quota system and federal character
4. Freedom of worship (no state religion)
5. Smooth transition of power without ethnic bias