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|Politics / Re: Wike Bans Meeting Of Igbo Group In Oyigbo, Rivers State by FACE(m): 4:47pm On May 21|
I think that i understand where this confusion about the Igbo identity comes from. It's a misconception by Ikwerre people that all Igbo people from the hinterland have the same root and speak the same way. The Igbo you hear in Owerri, Enugu , Aba, etc. are all urban Igbo, which is a fusion of dialects and doesn't belong to anyone in particular, but it's usually formed around the indigenous dialect. The Igbo you hear anyone speaking usually changes as soon as he is speaking with the relatives or kindred. I have an Ikwerre friend who speaks urban Igbo and he told me that his Ikwerre was different from Igbo until I broke into my own dialect. The truth is that someone from Umuagwo in Imo is more likely to have a fluent conversation with an Ikwerre person from Elele than the Ikwerre person would have with his Ikwerre kin from Emuoha if all should stick to their original dialect.
The hinterland Igbo you see in Port-Harcourt are likely to be speaking urban Igbo and that is why when you as a native of PH on hearing them speak would would think that they all speak in the same dialect from Imo to Ebonyi and from Abia to Anambra. This is probably why you don't understand why one variation (dialect) of your language keeps trying to subdue your own, but that is not true as Igbo is a conglomerate of dialects.
A very long time ago, people identities were based on their clans, but one thing they all agreed on was that they spoke Igbo and if you read about the slave trade era, you would see people described as for example, "Ungua (ngwa) from the Eboe (Igbo) nation, Aboh from the Eboe nation etc.
You call other Igbo groups Isoma, which is exactly what the typical Owerri person calls other Igbo groups and it's not out of disrespect. There are slight cultural variations across the board as well and you might be shocked to find out that you are more culturally linked with an Ngwa man than he is with an Enugu person due to proximity.
Having said all those, the Ikwerre seem to be more comfortable being an ethnic group on it's own and I do respect that.
|Politics / Re: Few Pics From Imo State by FACE(m): 11:52am On Dec 27, 2020|
You are clearly paranoid and all your points are dustbin worthy. Owerri people, Owerri people; who are these Owerri people forcing everybody to locate everything in Owerri?
Your useless points can be thrashed by half a moniker, let alone multiple monikers. I know you are a troll, who spent the whole of Christmas on Nairaland typing rubbish so this is my last response to you.
I have been here since 2007 and have only managed less than 800 posts, so that should indicate to you the amount of time I have, let alone dedicating my time responding to trolls.
|Politics / Re: Few Pics From Imo State by FACE(m): 3:18am On Dec 27, 2020|
The amount of venom coming from him is in no way geared towards pursuing government presence in Orlu.
|Politics / Re: Few Pics From Imo State by FACE(m): 2:11pm On Dec 26, 2020|
Stop feeding a troll. Trolling is a lifestyle that thrives on attention and trolls will always have the last word. They are not interested in any logic. Their arguments are upside down and self imploding so there is no point.
Considering the number of Imo citizens seeking university admission each year, it is clear that Imo needs more high institutions, yet someone with their correct senses wants one of the existing universities to be shut down and relocated to another area, when the argument should be for more universities to be created closer to the people. The same person wants Okigwe to be happy with a University in another state because it's near to Okigwe. I just feel sorry for his successful neighbours.
His mission is to sell the narrative that Owerri is the prostitution capital of the world and true Imo people know that it's a blatant lie. They did the same thing to Aba, using pictures of a few areas to paint the whole city. They succeeded because people engaged them. Ignore them and they soon fade away.
|Politics / Re: Few Pics From Imo State by FACE(m): 6:08pm On Dec 24, 2020|
Why must someone lose something to another person, when the same thing can be replicated and given to the next person?
I can't even see where your argument is coming from; not from costs nor from logistics point of view.
Pushing Owerri as a prostitution zone is a narrative by your likes, same as the concerted attacks on Aba in Asia State.
You claim that high institutions in Owerri are prostitution trading centres, I ask again; are you looking for Orlu to become the new centre for prostitution in Imo State or are your rhetorics simply driven by pure jealous rage?
Achike and Rochas are from Orlu, so why are you going about acting that Owerri people are holding the governors to ransome?
Imo state university was originally located at Uturu, but the new university in Owerri was established following the creation of Abia State during the military regime, so why are you crying Owerri Ugandan like they stole your yam?
So Okigwe people should depend on Abia state because it is near? See sense. Orlu is close to Owerri and Awka as well, so what is good for Okigwe is also good for Orlu. Mbaise is in Owerri but Umuagwo is not in Orlu Zone? You have a school of midwifery in Orlu as well.
Anybody that wants someone else to be deprived of what they already have instead of asking for their own is greedy and selfish.
We say, mee mu ka emere ibem, not napu ibem ihe enyere ha, ka inye m ya
|Politics / Re: Few Pics From Imo State by FACE(m): 2:58pm On Dec 24, 2020|
Biko, this whining is becoming redundant. How many tertiary institutions in Owerri are owned by the state government? Imo State University, which other one?
This line of arguement is why Nigeria refused to invest in education, choosing the easier route of quota system, depriving other people in order to accommodate others instead of expanding the facilities to other areas.
Why do you want the state government to relocate schools from Owerri to Orlu rather than arguing for a University to be brought closer home to your Orlu?
Why should Owerri lose those institutions to Orlu in particular? Why not to Mbaise or Okigwe?
By your own warped thinking, a University in Orlu would lead to a new prostitution racketeering in Orlu isn't it? After all, high institutions are just sex trading markets, not so? So why are you asking for this prostitution racket to be extended to Orlu? What about Okigwe, Mbaise, Mbano, Ohaji, Oguta, Obowo, etc?
Men like you are putting their hard earned money on the ground and investing as they deem fit and all you can do is to carry on whining like an entitled brat. I pity your successful neighbours with the amount of jealousy they must be enduring from you.
|Politics / Re: Abia State Development Thread- PICTURES by FACE(m): 11:05pm On Jul 01, 2020|
I wonder where you got the notion that I am denigrating Aba. I am Nwa Aba at heart. I never said that Abia should reconstruct the whole stretch of the express road to Enugu and PH ; I mentioned the main arterial road in Aba, which connects you to anywhere you want to go to in Aba. It's only 14KM long end to end from Osisioma junction to Alaoji through town. The other stretch is from Osisioma (Old toll gate area) express stretch to Alaoji, which is about 16KM long, making a total of 30KM. Faulks road is not a Federal road. I am happy to see that some Aba roads are getting repaired but Okezie has been a total failure and you know it. Aba is dear to every Igbo man and we know that poor governance has hindered the potentials of this awesome city.
How do you feel when people whose states cannot lace Abia's shoes heap all sorts of insults on Abia because the useless governors are busy playing federal and state politics with the roads while looting the state dry? Look at the increment to Abia debt burden since 2015 and tell me it is commensurate with the progress made by the state. Okezie deserves to rot in jail alongside Orji and Kalu
|Politics / Re: Abia State Development Thread- PICTURES by FACE(m): 3:56am On Jul 01, 2020|
The people in Abia and the economy of Aba are bearing the cost of the neglect of the so called Federal roads. By the same argument, the governor shouldn't be building a flyover at Osisioma since it's a federal Road.
Aba-Owerri-PH Road ( Express junction at Osisioma through town to Express junction at Bakassi/Ariaria) is about 17km long. On the express, Osisioma to Alaoji is about 15km.
Are you saying that Abia state isn't capable of reconstructing 32 km of road and passing the bill to FG? The funds from Ariaria alone can reconstruct those roads. OK, so what's the argument for the poor state of Ngwa road? Federal road too?
There is no escuse for the bad state of roads in Abia. Ebonyi state just claimed to have completed more than 1000 Km of concrete based roads and you are saying that Abia isn't capable of much more?
|Politics / Re: Abia State Development Thread- PICTURES by FACE(m): 11:30am On Jun 30, 2020|
The Aba people of nowadays are falling too much hand. These traders pay millions in various levies every month and still carry on paying with all the bad roads in the markets.
Let's take Ariaria for example; with more than 37000 shops and each shop paying a minimum of 5K per month to various agencies and touts, you are looking at more than 2.2 billion naira per year thrown into the bush, and we haven't even added all the money from the car parks. The Aba people of old would not take that rubbish. The old guards would have stopped paying and used the money to fix the internal market roads. Ariaria is like a town on it's own and the footprint of the main market is minus all the surrounding trading areas is about 1km x 700m in size. Maybe it's time to run Ariaria as it's own self funding municipality. Same goes for Ngwa Road, shopping centre and Cemetery markets
It's criminal to neglect Aba, but I praise the resilience of the people. There are 3-4 heavily subscribed industrial layouts in Aba and other industries which are sporadically spread within the city and people are still investing against all odds. An industrial belt was developing towards the PH road end of Ariaria but this was quickly killed by the poor state of that road. Aba - Owerri - PH road (Express to Express) is the main artery of Aba and yet the criminal governors hid under the cloak of federal road to neglect that road.
|Politics / Re: Why Israel sold weapons to Biafra and Nigeria during the civil war. by FACE(m): 1:17pm On Apr 15, 2020|
The problem with revisionists is that they don't know when they move to fairy tale zone. So on what basis would Aminu Kano make arms request to Israel in a military government headed by Gowon when he wasn't a member of the SMC? I don't even know why I bother with some of you guys.
|Politics / Re: Why Israel sold weapons to Biafra and Nigeria during the civil war. by FACE(m): 10:44am On Apr 15, 2020|
Even your own timeline shows that all arms sales to Nigeria by Israel were before the Nigeria-Biafra war and they switched their empathy to Biafra when the war started.
|Politics / Re: Igbo Will Suffer If They Secede —senator Doguwa by FACE(m): 11:55am On Nov 04, 2019|
The should ask Egypt what happened to them when they tried to nationalise Suez Canal and deny Israel unhindered passage of vessels. They lost Sinai Peninsular, which they regained after several years with abeg.
Although it runs through Egypt and commercially controlled by them, the canal is open to use by all vessels whether commercial or war vessels and in times of war and peace. Simply put, it is international waters running through Egypt and Egypt cannot stop anyone from using it regardless of their flag.
|Politics / Re: . by FACE(m): 11:23am On Sep 17, 2018|
I have been away from this forum for a while and it is good to see Ndi Igbo show a passion for our homelands within and outside the five states in SE.
We must reverse the current trend in Igbo land where there is a sustained outflow of resources from Igbo land. The ultimate saviour of Igbo land will be independence from the clutches of Nigeria because Nigeria is designed to emasculate the Igbo at home unless they seek opportunities from elsewhere.
Most of the graduates and young men, who really are the back bone of any society, are leaving in droves in search of opportunities and it is only a matter of time before we end up as a society for the elderly. Florida is reputed as an elderly society but they have an enormous industry in tourism which brings in endless funds but we are not in that position.
All the airports in the north are designated as international airports, while Owerri, the de-facto number four airport is still a local airport. Enugu airport is still number 6 closely behind Kano despite the closure to traffic last year. There are opportunities around us and we need to harness them for growth.
1. We already have a proven market of at least 30 million, extending to 60 million or more if you include our immediate catchment area so we must strive to maintain this market and expand. To make this workable, government must invest aggressively in inter connecting ring/loop highways and comprehensive rail networks.
2. To make Enugu airport thrive as an international hub, the region must come together and float our own airline. The airline should make technical stops in Abuja and Lagos and also extend services to Port Harcourt to maximise profits with Local connecting flights to Asaba and Owerri. When we grab a big share of the market, it will force other airlines to use Enugu as well and our tourism industry will open up as well.
3. To make sure that both the Onitsha and Owerrinta or Obuaku or Oguta River ports work, we should also float a shipping line and waterways maintenance company.
4. The individual states must have R&D or innovation centres properly funded to carry out research in household equipment, software and apps development, aviation and energy developments. Apple’s worth is approaching $1 Trillion today, Apple is richer than Nigeria! You can imagine if we are able to develop an App that brings in $40 - $50 million a year. We should have our own home made TVs, refrigerators, cookers, ACs etc by now. We have the talents to accomplish those simple tasks.
5. Most of our cities are already laid out in reasonable grid system, therefore we should be thinking of developing a major gas supply line to pipe our abundant gas to homes. This will create hundreds of thousands of jobs. If we are able to make just $10 per household per month from about 10 Million households excluding industrial users, that is at least $1.2 billion right there. Osisioma industrial area of Aba is already being supplied with gas so it is not impossible to achieve.
6. Float our own civil engineering construction companies to do our own rail tracks and roads and to also bid for federal government jobs. We don’t need Julius Berger or the Chinese for those. We only need them to build one Kilometre of rail tracks for us to serve as training for our own in house engineers who will take over and complete our projects.
The crux of the matter is that we need to find a way to exist as a country within a country.
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|Politics / Re: Breaking News: Nigerian Military Surround Nnamdi Kanu's Compound Now by FACE(m): 11:43am On Sep 12, 2017|
Those of you rejoicing at the thought of a war in the east do not know anything at all. There will be no war in the east, at least not in the east alone.
If you are expecting a face me I face you type of war where bombs will rain in the east alone while you sleep peacefully outside the east; you are very naive. This time around,when pushed, it will be fought in pockets so don't imagine you will be reading about it online with glee while Biafrans suffer offline. You will also be as unsafe as Biafrans.
Igbo people especially do not want to be part of Nigeria and all we ask for is simple referendum and not war, but Nigeria may end up learning civility by force.�
|Politics / Re: Welcome To Abia State: God's Own State (pictures) by FACE(m): 2:39pm On Dec 30, 2014|
Ok, I will wait for his manifesto, so that we can hear from the horse's mouth. Just be aware that I am going to ask a lot of questions about "hows" and whys
|Politics / Re: Welcome To Abia State: God's Own State (pictures) by FACE(m): 2:34pm On Dec 30, 2014|
How much are we expecting to make from it and over what period of time? Owerri airport is actually nearer to Aba than the Umuahia airport, so why would someone in Aba prefer to Use Abia airport ? I think the airport is a misplaced priority.
Do you know that the government can actually make more money by restoring and expanding the water system in Abia than embarking on a huge financially tasking project like an airport? I hope he has set enough money aside to complete the airport before he leaves, otherwise any right thinking person taking over from him would simply put the project on hold.
|Politics / Re: Welcome To Abia State - the industrial and economic hub of the east. by FACE(m): 1:50pm On Dec 30, 2014|
Good work bro
|Politics / Re: Welcome To Abia State: God's Own State (pictures) by FACE(m): 1:38pm On Dec 30, 2014|
The fall/gradient of a sewer system is actually more important than the size. I get your drift though; you are saying that you want a more effective drainage system and I want that as well, but has Okezie mentioned anywhere that he would tackle the drainage problem in Aba or is it something that you are hoping he would do as an Aba boy? I have looked at his website and it is too bland without any specifics about his visions.
There is a lot of multiple taxation going on in Abia, especially the waste and environmental fees, therefore people expect that there should be outlets for the waste they generate. There should be no need for a task force if there is an efficient waste collection/disposal system. Would you blame you child for failing at school if you did not provide him with the materials to enable him succeed at school?
There are several markets, SMEs, artisans and industrial areas in Aba. How does he intend to harness the potentials of the city and sustain/expand the comparative advantage Abia has over other states and neighbouring nations?
|Politics / Re: Welcome To Abia State: God's Own State (pictures) by FACE(m): 1:09pm On Dec 30, 2014|
Ok, you have pointed out that he would do more on urban drainage, which I think is a good idea, but what does he intend to do with the drainage and how would he prevent the people from displaying their die hard mentality?
|Politics / Re: Welcome To Abia State: God's Own State (pictures) by FACE(m): 1:03pm On Dec 30, 2014|
I do not think that we have a pressing need for an airport in Abia State. No part of Abia state is more than 70 kms from an airport and I do not go about wishing there was an airport in Umuahia, when ever I use Sam Mbakwe airport. I live about 40 miles/64km and 70 miles/112KM fro heathrow and Gatwick respectively and I get to them in no time at all when the roads are free. I think we should focus on regeneration of our areas and consolidating on our comparative advantage which is SMEs
|Politics / Re: Welcome To Abia State: God's Own State (pictures) by FACE(m): 12:47pm On Dec 30, 2014|
I have headed the environmental health division of my local authority, which comprises of wastes, street scenes and parks amongst other areas and I did not have to be an "Aba boy" to execute my job. Apart from being an Aba boy, what does he identify as the environmental challenges facing Abia and how does he intend to tackle them?
On the issue of people and their mentality; mentalities are not changed overnight without commensurate solutions or reprieve to encourage a change in mentality. How does he intend to make people change their "mentality" and what would he do if they refused to change?
|Politics / Re: Welcome To Abia State: God's Own State (pictures) by FACE(m): 12:29pm On Dec 30, 2014|
Ok, let's move on from the problems and on to solutions:
What are the environmental challenges facing Aba/Abia and how does Okezie intend to tackle them?
|Politics / Re: Welcome To Abia State: God's Own State (pictures) by FACE(m): 12:20pm On Dec 30, 2014|
Being an Aba boy is not the sole/most important qualification needed to regenerate Aba area, but we would get to that in a moment.
Good works are hot hidden. There are nearly 2 million people in Aba metropolitan area and I think that you give very little credit to their ability to reason for themselves when you say that one man influenced them to bad mouth Orji. Could you name the good works he did in Aba and environs please?
|Politics / Re: Welcome To Abia State: God's Own State (pictures) by FACE(m): 11:54am On Dec 30, 2014|
I want to engage you on some issues, but I need to know whether you are Okezie, his representative or just someone who supports him and with a good knowledge of his visions for Abia, but before we take this further, if he cannot accept that Orji had 8 years to correct those things you blame OUK for, how are we sure that we would not be going round in circles in 4 years time still blaming OUK?
|Politics / Re: Welcome To Abia State: God's Own State (pictures) by FACE(m): 3:15am On Dec 13, 2014|
|Politics / Re: Welcome To Abia State: God's Own State (pictures) by FACE(m): 3:01am On Dec 13, 2014|
New timber shed
|Politics / Re: Welcome To Abia State: God's Own State (pictures) by FACE(m): 2:56am On Dec 13, 2014|
|Politics / Re: Welcome To Abia State: God's Own State (pictures) by FACE(m): 2:53am On Dec 13, 2014|
|Politics / Re: Welcome To Abia State: God's Own State (pictures) by FACE(m): 2:50am On Dec 13, 2014|
|Politics / Re: Welcome To Abia State: God's Own State (pictures) by FACE(m): 2:47am On Dec 13, 2014|
|Politics / Re: Welcome To Abia State: God's Own State (pictures) by FACE(m): 2:44am On Dec 13, 2014|
|Politics / Re: Welcome To Abia State: God's Own State (pictures) by FACE(m): 2:34am On Dec 13, 2014|
Museum. After Col Shittu terrorised my villa with his MIG, he was shot down in recompense maybe by my uncle de Mart. RIP though. Several pixs from here
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