₦airaland Forum

lawani:
I now understand you but the GDP figures does not represent the economic fortunes of the oil producing states relative to others. That is my point. Imo might hit 500 billion naira per annum in allocations but that is still not that much for a top oil producing state. They don't need to rest on that though. It is less than 400 million dollars a year
All the states with much lower GDP than Imo state can generate far more revenue than Imo easily

FG actually makes less than $12 billion per annum (check online for budget performance reports), so $400 million is a significant amount for a state.

True, Imo shouldn't fold hands and rely on money from derivation. They need to find a way to block leakage in revenue collection. I read about the sudden broadening of tax collection in Enugu, which explains the sudden jump in their revenue. Imo state can easily use the same method to suddenly increase their own internally generated revenue, but that might place a burden on the poor and also scare potential investors if the aggressive tax collection is extended to businesses.

Yes, all states with lower GDP than Imo can generate more revenue than Imo, likewise, Imo can also generate more revenue than all states with higher GDP if they tried.

lawani:
Well if you want to add it you can add it but over 90 percent of the money goes out to the JV partner and FG.
What does Imo gain more than allocation and salary of oil workers? Not much more
Imo can still get more from gas operations but like I said it is in the future also as you pointed out

It means you will have to credit all the revenue from oil and gas to only the oil bearing states as well

However if you calculate GDP like that it is useless for comparing states with ach other

The oil production economics have already been added to the GDP of oil producing states and rightly so. That is why Ondo has a higher GDP than Ogun and even Kano with all the population. Even if 90% went to JV partners and FG, the amount that Imo receives can easily top N500 billion per annum. You are forgetting about the jobs created by this operation, the allied industries already on the way and the servicing jobs that will be created. This is not something that will happen in the future, it is already happening.

lawani:
If you add oil production to the GDP of oil producing states you will not get the true picture when comparing them to other states

Why do you think that oil producing states are at the top of GDP ranking by state? Why do you think that Ondo is above Ogun when it comes to GDP? Oil production is part of economic activities so it will be absurd to exclude the sector when calculating GDP.

lawani:
I don't understand GDP? He was the one counting oil and gas as Imo GDP and I had to point out to him that all what Imo gets from it is allocations and salaries of workers working in the oil sector in Imo. No matter what Imi gets it is not among the top states that earn from oil and gas yet. Maybe in the future but not yet

You still don't understand the concept of GDP, you are referring to revenue and not GDP. It may well be that Imo gets nothing from the gas operations, but it doesn't mean that the gas operation contributes nothing to the GDP. The akara road seller's economic activity is part of a GDP, but does the government really get anything from the seller? An industry's contribution to the GDP can be estimated by using the gross value added (GVA), i.e value of goods produced minus cost of producing them. The scale of ANOH operation has significant impact on Imo GDP gas.

Now talking about production and revenue, ANOH is the top gas producer in Nigeria and the others don't come anywhere close. They only started operations in June and by the time FG starts paying Imo their 13% derivation, don't be shocked if Imo walks off with 300-500 billion naira per annum from this operation. No oil producing state is receiving that amount at the moment. Please see link about the gas production below.

https://globexpath.com/imo-state-just-lit-a-fire-the-gas-plant-changing-everything/

lawani:
Imo oil ands gas revenue or production can't be up to 1.5 billion dollars per annum which is shared between FG and oil companies at 60 40 after expenses and the FG gives Imo 13 percent of it's share. I don't think there can be up to 500 oil workers in Imo state.

First, you don't understand the meaning of GDP. It's simply the sum total of economic activity in an economy and has nothing to do with who gets what share from profits. You underestimate the scale of ANOH gas operations. It's a new operation and also a game changer for Imo state and you will find out the impact when they start receiving their 13% derivation. Apart from the operation, other economic activities are also tied to the project. Now back to your question about how much money:

ANOH produces about 850 million SCF daily. At about $0.026 per SCF of gas, there is about $20.5 million worth of gas pumped out daily from ANOH facility. This is about $7.5 billion of productivity per annum. To put that into perspective, even if FG received only 10% of that amount, Imo state will receive a minimum of N150 billion, as 13% derivation from that amount. Before you start saying that it is not all profit, cost of production, etc., The cost of production is part of that economic activity. An economic activity means that someone is receiving money and the other is receiving goods and services.

Ojiofor:
You are saying so because you are not a traveler,I am from Abia state and I know the stress of either landing in PH,Owerri or Enugu then arrange logistics that will take you to Abia state from those airport risking very bad road and coupled with insecurity along the way any time I am visiting Nigeria. Then on my way back same risky journey to PH,Enugu or Owerri.How awesome it will be to leave my house in Umuahia and get to the airport within 20 minutes.Who no like better thing?We support our governor make una rest.

If you leave your house in Umuahia and arrive at the airport in 20 minutes, how about those in Uturu , Isuochi , Aba etc?

The airport is a useless venture and shows that Oti is just another clueless politician. Very few people live less than 30 minutes from an airport and it's perfectly reasonable to expect to travel about an hour to get to an airport.

Abia is surrounded by 4 of the most vibrant airports in Nigeria and no part of Abia state is more than one and half hours away from an airport. Some parts of Lagos, PH, Abuja are a good 2-3 hours from the airport. On good roads, no part of Abia is more than one hour away from an airport so why does Oti think that an airport is a priority?

MindHacker9009:
You don't get it. My current income is enough for the value I asked for. My previous self employment income was not even needed. I already have an agreement directly with other banks based on my current income that will give me the amount I wanted and I have now gone back to apply directly myself.

Well done. Most times, it's best to go directly to the lenders as the rate they offer is available to the public, especially in noncommercial mortgages. The only need for a broker arises when it's a bit complicated. Some brokers can liaise with mortgage underwriters to resolve any ambiguities, whereas the same underwriters might say a flat no if there are ambiguities to resolve when you apply directly, because the decisions are more or less made by a computer algorithm. Good luck with your house buy.

Be civil. You don't have enough income to obtain the amount of mortgage that you needed, otherwise he would not have any need to bump up your income. I concede that he is fraudulen, but your low income forced his fraudulent hands .

The amount of mortgage you can get is a multiple of your total income. The affordability is then calculated by matching your income against your total liabilities and this is what really determines how much you can get. Once you have completed the purchase, it's now a business between you and your lender. Nothing to do with the broker anymore.

The broker bumped up his income in order to enable him secure more mortgage, but it's wrong. It would give a false affordability assessment and the borrower might struggle to keep up with the monthly payments. He felt the need to bump up his pay because he would not be able to get enough mortgage with his income to be able to finance the purchase of that particular property he was after.

richmond500:
GDP is the sum total of ur assets multiplied by its value.

IGR is an indication of what enters ur hand at the end of the day.
U can have a high GDP yet a very low IGR.
U are not economically viable if u look only at ur GDP and not increase ur IGR

Abeg go and read up GDP. What you just described is your gross worth. Take away liabilities and you will have your net worth. Yes, you can have a high GDP and low IGR, which is simply tax and royalties. The size of IGR will depend on how much of the GDP is captured and taxed. The private or informal sector will hide as much money as possible from the tax man.

helinues:
Calm down.

Do you know how many business, people that have relocated from South East due to sit at home every Monday which is over 2 years now.

South East will continue to maintain high GDP as the per income are for less people as reasonable have relocated.

IGR is internally Generated Revenue, the more business activities in your state, the more IGR for for you.

Business activities in South East is declining hence low IGR but the GDP will still continue to be high as there are now less people to budget on.

The other day, Governor Soludo said almost half of the residents of the state have relocated . The GDP must definitely increase but with low IGR

Economagics... Why do you guys engage in topics you don't understand? How can you say a declining economy will continue to maintain high GDP? What is recession then and how does it affect the GDP?

richmond500:
I saw a post about how poor Nigeria is and another on how Ogun IGR doesn't define their wealth.
Actually real wealth is measured in IGR which is the same as cashflow.

Let me explain using Nigeria as an example,
1.) The GDP per Capita of Nigeria is almost N3m this mean the average Nigerian has 3m as net worth yet almost half the country is living in multi dimensional poverty, this does not make a single sense. I could assure you that 90% of the people that will see this post doesn't have up to N3m as net worth

2. most wealth calculation are in average and not median. Taking Nigeria as an example again, the dichotomy between the rich and the poor is so wide that average is not a real representation of wealth, the likes of the ultra rich like Dangote, Elumelu, Tinubu will influence the average wealth that GDP per Capita can make the average person 10times richer on paper while u are realistically wretched and in a solidly corrupt country, it can even make u 20 times richer. If we have 1000 people and 10 of them are worth 100m, while the other 990 are worth just 100k, the average of their wealth is N1m, of cos this is because the ultra rich which are very few has distorted the result. Median is a better representation but no country uses median in GDP per Capita.

3 IGR gives you a more realistic number of how much comes into a country or state, it is called cashflow, with this you can know how your worth and wealth.
If your household cashflow or salary is 150k monthly yet u have a N20m house, ur GDP or networth is N20m but you know u you are suffering.

I'll make a quote from Robert Kiyosaki who says, "real wealth is what comes into ur pocket and not what u have"

In summary, let us stop using GDP as a measure of wealth

You don't know what you are talking about. Your GDP is not your net worth, but the sum of economic activities going on in you country. The GDP influences net worth, which arises from the proceeds of the economic activities. For example, if you had a big redundant hotel, it might be worth about $2 billion, but it is not productive. Those selling groundnuts on the street are more productive but you have more assets. The only time that redundant hotel added to the gdp was when you were building it.

The USA is worth about $225 trillion but the GDP is about $29 trillion.

Your GDP helps you to create wealth, but your wealth is only useful to the GDP if it is productive.

Expanding the data:

NE: 105193 Sq miles x 183 = 19,250,319 poor people
NC: 93600 sq miles x 226 = 21,253,600 poor people
NE: 74551 sq miles x 528 = 39,362,928 poor people
SS: 32659 sq miles x597 = 19,497,423 poor people
SW: 30758 sq miles x 537 =16,517,046 poor people
SE: 11399 sq miles x 970 = 11,057 030 poor people

1stGenAmerican:
But remember that the UK has NHS which would’ve covered the cost of the procedure. In his letter, he said he would bear the expenses but went on to name a hospital that has FREE in its name.
I also feel that they were going to get rid of the boy afterwards, just like the boy found in the river with no organs.

The NHS does not cover the medical bills for UK visitors. Royalfree is just the name of a Trust/Hospital and doesn't provide free healthcare services to UK visitors; it just like expecting a free pass from Freetown.

1stGenAmerican:
No, the UK hospital refused to do the transplant because of age AND because UK Law says a live donor must be a close relative. They weren’t a genetic match so they tried going to Turkey to circumvent the requirements.

You don't know what you are saying:

"Across the UK, more than 1000 people each year donate organs while they are still alive to a relative, friend or someone they do not know.

The most commonly donated organ by a living person is a kidney. A healthy person can lead a normal life with only one functioning kidney and so is able to donate the other to help someone in need of a kidney transplant.

Part of a liver can also be transplanted from a living donor to help someone in need of a liver transplant.

A successful transplant from a living donor is the best treatment option available for most people with kidney disease and they have a better chance of survival than those transplanted from someone who has died.

For all forms of living donor transplants the risk to the donor must be considered very carefully. Before a living donor transplant can go ahead there are strict regulations to meet and a thorough process of assessment and discussion.

All living donor transplants in the UK are regulated by the Human Tissue Authority (HTA)."

https://www.nhsbt.nhs.uk/how-you-can-help/get-involved/key-messages-and-information/living-organ-donation-faq/

Oshodipikin:
Come clean dude and say your mind....

Calm down. I just agreed with your thinking. No ambiguity in my post. Check for the meaning of black ops/operations.

Oshodipikin:
Reprisal attack? I think NOT.

Probably the same guys who attacked the church did this.

Dem born you well. This is mediocre black ops style.

ume1000:
tell me what piece can checkmate both kings unaided

A knight cannot checkmate the King unaided, but it can put the king on check whilst targeting another piece. I will let the knight fall in battle in exchange for a rook or queen. The knight can be pinned to a standstill by an ordinary pawn. The queen is the most powerful piece on the board, followed by the rooks, then the knights and Bishops. Yes, a knight can target several pieces at the same time, just like the queen; the only difference is that a knight's attack is indirect and cannot be blocked if the piece on target is unable to move.

B2mario:
Pls use your Google map and zoom it more and more you will definitely see that Ibadan is not larger than Aba. Aba area is densely populated and has more satellite towns and zones than Ibadan.

I purposely excluded the satellite areas to Aba, otherwise areas as far as Obehie and Owerrinta can easily qualify as Aba suburbs. The point is that the claim that Ibadan is more than 3000sqkm is almost assuming a life of it's own, whereas it is less than 600sqkm, including significant patches of green areas.

mrvitalis:
Oga stop this useless lies Ibadan city is different from all of Ibadan land

A lie repeated several times has a way of gaining a life of its own. Ibadan metropolis is about 580sqkm and only about 3 times the size of Aba metropolis in landmass. Aba is compact with a large number of high density buildings

chrisxxx:
Ikwerre never said they came from Bini. The Bini angle started from the people of Ekpeye(Ahoada)
I am Ikwerre. I dont believe the Bini angle. I see myself more related to the Igbos. The only place I disagree with you is that I am Igbo. I am not. We are brothers no doubt. But not you. If you come to Ikwerre land and see things yourself, you could some similarities that are not exactly the same. Dont force Ikwerre people into what they are not. We have Swedish people that speak almost same language with the Finish people. But they are different people.
The same also to Portuguese and Spanish and they are also different people.

I think that i understand where this confusion about the Igbo identity comes from. It's a misconception by Ikwerre people that all Igbo people from the hinterland have the same root and speak the same way. The Igbo you hear in Owerri, Enugu , Aba, etc. are all urban Igbo, which is a fusion of dialects and doesn't belong to anyone in particular, but it's usually formed around the indigenous dialect. The Igbo you hear anyone speaking usually changes as soon as he is speaking with the relatives or kindred. I have an Ikwerre friend who speaks urban Igbo and he told me that his Ikwerre was different from Igbo until I broke into my own dialect. The truth is that someone from Umuagwo in Imo is more likely to have a fluent conversation with an Ikwerre person from Elele than the Ikwerre person would have with his Ikwerre kin from Emuoha if all should stick to their original dialect.

The hinterland Igbo you see in Port-Harcourt are likely to be speaking urban Igbo and that is why when you as a native of PH on hearing them speak would would think that they all speak in the same dialect from Imo to Ebonyi and from Abia to Anambra. This is probably why you don't understand why one variation (dialect) of your language keeps trying to subdue your own, but that is not true as Igbo is a conglomerate of dialects.

A very long time ago, people identities were based on their clans, but one thing they all agreed on was that they spoke Igbo and if you read about the slave trade era, you would see people described as for example, "Ungua (ngwa) from the Eboe (Igbo) nation, Aboh from the Eboe nation etc.

You call other Igbo groups Isoma, which is exactly what the typical Owerri person calls other Igbo groups and it's not out of disrespect. There are slight cultural variations across the board as well and you might be shocked to find out that you are more culturally linked with an Ngwa man than he is with an Enugu person due to proximity.

Having said all those, the Ikwerre seem to be more comfortable being an ethnic group on it's own and I do respect that.

Amah70:
THE HATE-MONGERS OF IMO STATE lobbied for, or watched all government institutions that induce development, including futo, Imsu, aifce, polynekede, fercolat, to be in one Owerri area, still fight against having government presence anywhere else in Imo state outside Owerri.


AICE campus in Orlu was closed down after the hate mongers lobbied a new military governor to close the campus.

Imo state has no university teaching hospital in Orlu because of the sabotage of the hate mongers.
Construction of Orlu urban roads and drainage system contract was sabotaged by the hate mongers of Imo state - the job was not completed till today.

Probably replying the same person of many many monikers.

You are clearly paranoid and all your points are dustbin worthy. Owerri people, Owerri people; who are these Owerri people forcing everybody to locate everything in Owerri?

Your useless points can be thrashed by half a moniker, let alone multiple monikers. I know you are a troll, who spent the whole of Christmas on Nairaland typing rubbish so this is my last response to you.

I have been here since 2007 and have only managed less than 800 posts, so that should indicate to you the amount of time I have, let alone dedicating my time responding to trolls.

BastardWike:
That man is troll no doubt but he is a very dangerous one. He is busy spamming everywhere with concorted lies and devilish propaganda but the worst thing you will do is to ignore them because he will end up convincing the unsuspecting ones. We have waited patiently over a year now while hoping he will stop his dance of shame but all to no avail, instead he continued to utter rubbish here and unfortunately, some people have started believing his lies. That was the mistake Aba/Abia State people made when their state was being dragged in the mud under the guise of criticizing their irresponsible governors. If they had countered it then, they wouldn't be having terrible image now.

A propaganda is steadily being pushed that Owerri is the prostitution capital of Nigeria because it has lots of higher institutions. Now, I have destroyed that perception by providing facts on the contrary. Instead of ignoring them you counter them with superior logic and make them look stupid.

If a lie is repeated severally it will start looking like the truth~~Igbo proverb.

Good points.

The amount of venom coming from him is in no way geared towards pursuing government presence in Orlu.

BastardWike:
Owerri is your state capital, stop hating on it. Achike Udenwa built Imo international market and Imo State teaching hospital in Orlu and no one is complaining yet the only higher institution state government built in Owerri which is IMSU, you want it to be transferred to Orlu?! Why are you so wicked??

Imo Poly is already in Orlu zone, or you want it to be removed and built inside Orlu town before you appreciate it??

I really don't know what your problem is because you're not making an atom if sense.

Stop feeding a troll. Trolling is a lifestyle that thrives on attention and trolls will always have the last word. They are not interested in any logic. Their arguments are upside down and self imploding so there is no point.

Considering the number of Imo citizens seeking university admission each year, it is clear that Imo needs more high institutions, yet someone with their correct senses wants one of the existing universities to be shut down and relocated to another area, when the argument should be for more universities to be created closer to the people. The same person wants Okigwe to be happy with a University in another state because it's near to Okigwe. I just feel sorry for his successful neighbours.

His mission is to sell the narrative that Owerri is the prostitution capital of the world and true Imo people know that it's a blatant lie. They did the same thing to Aba, using pictures of a few areas to paint the whole city. They succeeded because people engaged them. Ignore them and they soon fade away.

Amah70:
What criterion qualifies Owerri to host Imo state university after hosting FUTO, AIFCE?

Edo, Anambra, Abia, in fact, more than 80% of Nigeria’s states don’t have their state university in the state capital.

Imo state university permanent location has no business with Owerri if Imo state is to be for all of us. Take your blackmail to the birds of the air.


Why Mbaise? Mbaise is in Owerri senatorial zone.


Okigwe? Okigwe has a nearby ABSU in Uturu-Okigwe, as well as IMSU Engineering faculty.
Okigwe is 6 LGAs.


Orlu with 12 LGAs has no multi faculty government university. You must be living in Mars if you don’t understand that an area as large as Orlu senatorial district with its population needs a multi faculty government university to jumpstart human and economic development in the area.
Instead of support for the needful to be done - locate IMSU permanent in Orlu zone - and diminish the picture of Owerri as prostitution capital of Nigeria - you write to sustain the prostitution business in Owerri.

Why must someone lose something to another person, when the same thing can be replicated and given to the next person?

I can't even see where your argument is coming from; not from costs nor from logistics point of view.

Pushing Owerri as a prostitution zone is a narrative by your likes, same as the concerted attacks on Aba in Asia State.

You claim that high institutions in Owerri are prostitution trading centres, I ask again; are you looking for Orlu to become the new centre for prostitution in Imo State or are your rhetorics simply driven by pure jealous rage?

Achike and Rochas are from Orlu, so why are you going about acting that Owerri people are holding the governors to ransome?

Imo state university was originally located at Uturu, but the new university in Owerri was established following the creation of Abia State during the military regime, so why are you crying Owerri Ugandan like they stole your yam?

So Okigwe people should depend on Abia state because it is near? See sense. Orlu is close to Owerri and Awka as well, so what is good for Okigwe is also good for Orlu. Mbaise is in Owerri but Umuagwo is not in Orlu Zone? You have a school of midwifery in Orlu as well.

Anybody that wants someone else to be deprived of what they already have instead of asking for their own is greedy and selfish.

We say, mee mu ka emere ibem, not napu ibem ihe enyere ha, ka inye m ya

Amah70:
On this thread over the years, one particular OruExpress has consistently defended clustering of young people in Owerri, defended location of all tertiary education institutions in Imo state in Owerri; and denies the fact that hotels springing upandan in Owerri are mostly used for sex tourism on exploitation of the young students.
Unarguably, you profit from the prostitution business in one way or another. Why not take the prostitution business to your Awo village?

Biko, this whining is becoming redundant. How many tertiary institutions in Owerri are owned by the state government? Imo State University, which other one?

This line of arguement is why Nigeria refused to invest in education, choosing the easier route of quota system, depriving other people in order to accommodate others instead of expanding the facilities to other areas.

Why do you want the state government to relocate schools from Owerri to Orlu rather than arguing for a University to be brought closer home to your Orlu?

Why should Owerri lose those institutions to Orlu in particular? Why not to Mbaise or Okigwe?

By your own warped thinking, a University in Orlu would lead to a new prostitution racketeering in Orlu isn't it? After all, high institutions are just sex trading markets, not so? So why are you asking for this prostitution racket to be extended to Orlu? What about Okigwe, Mbaise, Mbano, Ohaji, Oguta, Obowo, etc?

Men like you are putting their hard earned money on the ground and investing as they deem fit and all you can do is to carry on whining like an entitled brat. I pity your successful neighbours with the amount of jealousy they must be enduring from you.

eduj:
1000km of concrete roads in ebonyi? if this isnt sensentionalism on your part, that's a good one from ebonyi -their government is a class act-but I bet you even he can't totally reconstruct enugu -ph road.
Oga from aba to enugu is a distance of over 100km, from Aba to ph is a distance of over 40 km.
On an average, we are talking of reconstruction of a 100km road, dual carriageway of two or 3 lane per carriageway, with a bridge on the ph border, a flyover at Aloji section and earth reinforcing.

Don't believe me actually do some research, it's costing the federal government over 150 billion to construct the abia section of the road!!!!
Can Abia afford to reconstruct such road? with state funds hell no. Anambra and enugu couldn't reconstruct the anambra to enugu fed road, what Anambra government did was to do sections within their urban Areas -thats what Abia can do. Abia can't definitely do that whole road.
thankfully the fed are working on that road and are very close to aba -the Chinese firm handling the ph section are at work within the obigbo axis.


what some of you want is for us to join you in bemoaning Aba (that's the basis of all this denigration ) and before you go off I would point out that currently aba road umuahia, aba-owerri road aba, the nnpc depot road aba are all Federal roads being done with state funds. Newmap is also handling the ph road aba (another Federal road)

I wonder where you got the notion that I am denigrating Aba. I am Nwa Aba at heart. I never said that Abia should reconstruct the whole stretch of the express road to Enugu and PH ; I mentioned the main arterial road in Aba, which connects you to anywhere you want to go to in Aba. It's only 14KM long end to end from Osisioma junction to Alaoji through town. The other stretch is from Osisioma (Old toll gate area) express stretch to Alaoji, which is about 16KM long, making a total of 30KM. Faulks road is not a Federal road. I am happy to see that some Aba roads are getting repaired but Okezie has been a total failure and you know it. Aba is dear to every Igbo man and we know that poor governance has hindered the potentials of this awesome city.

How do you feel when people whose states cannot lace Abia's shoes heap all sorts of insults on Abia because the useless governors are busy playing federal and state politics with the roads while looting the state dry? Look at the increment to Abia debt burden since 2015 and tell me it is commensurate with the progress made by the state. Okezie deserves to rot in jail alongside Orji and Kalu

eduj:
you made valid points but no state government in the east would be able to fund a reconstruction of the enugu-ph road. Do you even know how long that road is?
aba road umuahia, the Nnpc depot road, aba-owerri -factory roads are all Federal roads in Abia that the state government is reconstructing. Even ph road aba (the bulk of bad pics of aba is from that axis) is another Federal road newmap is handling.
point is, be realistic in stating your views

The people in Abia and the economy of Aba are bearing the cost of the neglect of the so called Federal roads. By the same argument, the governor shouldn't be building a flyover at Osisioma since it's a federal Road.

Aba-Owerri-PH Road ( Express junction at Osisioma through town to Express junction at Bakassi/Ariaria) is about 17km long. On the express, Osisioma to Alaoji is about 15km.

Are you saying that Abia state isn't capable of reconstructing 32 km of road and passing the bill to FG? The funds from Ariaria alone can reconstruct those roads. OK, so what's the argument for the poor state of Ngwa road? Federal road too?

There is no escuse for the bad state of roads in Abia. Ebonyi state just claimed to have completed more than 1000 Km of concrete based roads and you are saying that Abia isn't capable of much more?

sage:
I dont get the people promoting propaganda online for the Orji clan and Ikpeazu? What is the use of the lies they are promoting?

Just fix Aba and this crown jewel of a city will promote itself. You dont need a paid army of propagandists to promote the idea of say Abuja having good roads. Why do you need that for Aba if the roads were actually good? Stop paying these people to promote an alternate reality and just fix the damn place already

Fix all the roads, change the horrific markets to malls and unleash the massive potential of the city. There is no point in propaganda.

This market is very near to Enyimba stadium. When foreigners come to Aba to play Enyimba this is the horror show they are greeted with. Yet we want people to respect us. They view us as animals

The Aba people of nowadays are falling too much hand. These traders pay millions in various levies every month and still carry on paying with all the bad roads in the markets.

Let's take Ariaria for example; with more than 37000 shops and each shop paying a minimum of 5K per month to various agencies and touts, you are looking at more than 2.2 billion naira per year thrown into the bush, and we haven't even added all the money from the car parks. The Aba people of old would not take that rubbish. The old guards would have stopped paying and used the money to fix the internal market roads. Ariaria is like a town on it's own and the footprint of the main market is minus all the surrounding trading areas is about 1km x 700m in size. Maybe it's time to run Ariaria as it's own self funding municipality. Same goes for Ngwa Road, shopping centre and Cemetery markets

It's criminal to neglect Aba, but I praise the resilience of the people. There are 3-4 heavily subscribed industrial layouts in Aba and other industries which are sporadically spread within the city and people are still investing against all odds. An industrial belt was developing towards the PH road end of Ariaria but this was quickly killed by the poor state of that road. Aba - Owerri - PH road (Express to Express) is the main artery of Aba and yet the criminal governors hid under the cloak of federal road to neglect that road.

Blue3k:
Lol you guys are a funny bunch. You cant bother scrolling down before making erroneous comments.

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The problem with revisionists is that they don't know when they move to fairy tale zone. So on what basis would Aminu Kano make arms request to Israel in a military government headed by Gowon when he wasn't a member of the SMC? I don't even know why I bother with some of you guys.

Blue3k:
Israel wanted to maintain relations with The Federal Republic of Nigeria for arms exports. It also supported Biafra because they sympathized with their plight because of moralistic beliefs and memories of the holocaust. This created a contradictory policy where they supported both sides of the conflict with arms. The policy eventually led to bad relations with Nigeria after the war in 1973.



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Even your own timeline shows that all arms sales to Nigeria by Israel were before the Nigeria-Biafra war and they switched their empathy to Biafra when the war started.

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Let me tell you something you may not know. Theres a big difference between being landlocked and having access to the sea. Both are not the same thing. London is a landlocked city but London handles majority of British shipping. That's because London has waterways that lead from it to ocean such the River Thames and the River Lea. London has several River ports and many barges.

Technology has gone far. Gone are the days when you need a big wharf by the ocean before you can import or export. All you need now are water ways and barges or crane mounted barges. Crane mounted barges can go out to sea, meet a coastliner, discharge or receive goods or containers and return to an inland River port without need for a wharf. One barge can carry hundreds of containers.

A River port can be built in Oguta in Imo or Obuaku in Abia, both Oguta and Obuaku both have tributaries that run from them to the Ocean. Onitsha in Anambra already has a River port

The SE might be landlocked, but it definitely has access to the Sea.

However, Igbo land exceeds the so called SE

The should ask Egypt what happened to them when they tried to nationalise Suez Canal and deny Israel unhindered passage of vessels. They lost Sinai Peninsular, which they regained after several years with abeg.

Although it runs through Egypt and commercially controlled by them, the canal is open to use by all vessels whether commercial or war vessels and in times of war and peace. Simply put, it is international waters running through Egypt and Egypt cannot stop anyone from using it regardless of their flag.