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dalaman:
You didn't see anything you deluded idiot. You just made the story up.

1 Corinthians 1:18

For the message of the cross
is foolishness to those who
are perishing, but to us who
are being saved it is the
power of God.

You see your life now? You called me a deluded idiot because i said what i saw which didn t go down well with you. But i am not and can never be perturbed because i know your type and the path you belong.

joe4real12:
You are a bloody liar.
Even the devil go dey envy your lies

I speak the truth in Christ and nothing but the truth. I did not add neither did i subtracted anything from i was shown.

I have seen the devil with horns and tails in two different occasions. I have seen the acient serpent that was larger than two 40ft containers and over 500 meters long coming out of the sea. I know about the marine kingdom and their mission and have fought them in many ocasion.

So, you are right to say that even the devil will envy me but because of lies rather its because even the devil knows i am telling the truth

zykson:
You've started again! with your spiritual nonesense...you're confused and yet still convinced that you know all things in your spiritual state even when you have no idea of what the hell youre saying.you claim to know what others dont and reason well above them but without 'common sense',yet you consider yourself extraordinary and others that apply common sense and the simple laws of nature naive...Biko wake up the least your God can do is to respect ppls' privacy even from your book of stories he didnt allow the rich man to send pple to the world and warn his brothers abt his state instead he said his prophets on earth will warn them cos aint proper!...next time ask him to show you where u gon end your sorry ass Jackson own no Conshine You

My dear what you don't is far beyond you. I've not started anything again but only telling you guys what i saw.

Common sense? When it comes to the things of God what i need is DIVINE WISDOM ( EPIGNOSIS ) instead of your common sense. Common sense is carnal and has no spiritual backing.

I don't not care about what you or anybody thinks about me as long as i am telling the truth. I know you read my post on Pastor David Ibiyeomie and you are one of those encourage him to fight for the Almighty Father instead of allowing the Father to do His thing.

You guys should continue deceiving yourselves

AnonyNymous:
You only saw what you expected to see.

This is usually the way Jehovah witness thinks.

I will not lie against anyone especially the dead because i will also die one day (maybe today ).

AnonyNymous:
Yes. A great man who spent billions trying to heal the world, and continuously made effort to promote togetherness, love, and unity among humans is currently burning and gnashing his teeth in hell. Smh.

I hate how the 'illuminati lookout' people ascribe extreme talent to the devil. Just because they're too lazy to develop their inherent talents, they feel that anybody who's incredibly talented must gave 'bought it' from the 'devil'.

Michael Joseph Jackson spent up to 18 hours of his day practicing singing and dancing. His vocal coach, Seth Riggs, says he's never seen someone as hardworking and dedicated to perfecting his craft as Michael was. When he first paid a few dollars to learn how to do the moonwalk, he spent up to 3hours everyday for almost a year perfecting it before he ever did it live. Baby face recounts his experience with MJ, saying he recorded up to 36 takes of one verse in 'Do You Know Where Your Children Are', just because he wanted it to be perfect.

The contributions he made to the world to try to make it a better place are still here for all to see. And then after watching a few conspiracy theory videos on YouTube by fat old men who still live with their mom, you accept that he was a 'spawn of Satan' and come her to spit on his grave.

You should evaluate your beliefs if you think dedicating your life to doing the right thing and trying to influence people positively with your talents will end you up in a place of eternal torment.

I wasn't responsible for the vision neither was i the One who judged him. I am only telling you what i saw. Period!

If u like commit suicide to save the world, u go face judgement

DirewolfofStark:
Wetin we no fit hear for NL?

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I can't tell you what you want to hear rather i will only tell you what i saw and heard

zykson:
Cos ure a fan now your God is now making you invade peoples' privacy?...when he was alive doing whatever he was doing that made him get to where he his that you saw u werent there why is it now youre there? Biko mind your own business if not that same God of yours gon make people see you own sorry state and others mock and bare witness

I don't like sharing this like this because of some set of spiritual illiterates like you.

Like i said you are now a witness that i shared it.

What i have been priviledged to see and hear, you can not understand.

Please read very carefully and try to make amendment in your life because indeed God is no respecter of any man. If you are guilty, it means your guilty and must face the consquencies no matter who you are.

I was a fan of Michael Jackson and my favourite was "you are not alone". So, few months after his death and burial, i and my facebook friends from Czech Republic usually talked about him and his songs.

But the truth was each time i want to pray, my spirit always warned me to refrain from discussing Michael Jackson. So, i stopped discussing him or playing my favourite track as i was warned.

So, one fateful night, i slept and had a night vision. In that vision, i was taken to a very dark place and before me was a tunel that went deep into the ground. I saw very thick and dark flames coming out of it.

As i looked at the flames, lo and behold the smokes lifted up Michael Jackson, he was in great pains as he was been tormented inside the tunel of thick flames.

Immedately he was lifted up, it didn't take up to a minute before he was pulled down into the tunel and i was disconnected and woke up.

I am not sharing vision to scare anyone or compel anyone to forsake his/her sinful ways but for you all to read and bear witness that i shared it.

N/B: Your actions today will determine your reward tomorrow.


Peace!

Something is wrong or about to go wrong somewhere in your life or someone close to you.

What you dreamt about was a pure revelation of someone or group of persons ganging up against you.

She might be the person behind the evil act or she was used to let you know that someone close to you is after your life or destiny.

Be on the alert

Trust no one including your shadow

Knowledge they say is power

Time to attack the attacker

Time to take prayer seriously

Especially at night ( Nigerian time)

I pray the Almighty fight and conquer for you.


Amen

Reference:
Why do people think he hasn't forgiven her. Forgiveness is of the conscience, comsequence is of the act. Its just like salvation in Chrisrianity. It is a two part process whi h is independent. You believe to acquire righteousness and then confess to obtain salvation. God loves you doesn't automatically guarantee you salvation. I think she should forgive herself first.

Will he forgive and still be a witness to testify in court against her?

Reference:
No, but the pastor has not asked them to steal. In scripture Jesus sat and watched people making offerings. He could conclude because He could see their hearts. No pastor has such powers and though I admonish them to move beyond the pulpit into the homes and offices of their flocks just as Jesus went to homes and offices, but their primary responsibility is to feed the flock, scatter the Word and pray the Spirit makes it work. They cannot force the horse to drink.

As to what Church doctrine has become I think it perfectly reflects the time we are which is tne end of days where things are moving at a very fast pace. Prosperity is the oil that lubricates the expansion of the gospel. It is a present attraction in an increasingly unstable, unequal and poverty ridden world and I think that whatever spreads the gospel faster will meet with God's approval. Anyway the gospel has always been abused right from when Jesus walked the earth. In the era of 'holiness and submission' in the 12 century people termed heretics were executed in the most abominable manner ever witnessed. Acts of cruelty perpetuated by 'the Church' so bad that it will make today's ISIS look like the boys scouts. Then came the conquistadors, then the evangelicals dehumanising, humiliating and even mass murdering their congregations. My friend, the Church has always had misrepresentation but it always seems to overcome them and the kingdom of God has never looked back.

When you become carnally minded you can no longer be spiritually alert and such you will do things you shouldn't have done.

Jesus said they gave out of what they had not what they stole

Reference:
But all the scripture you quote applies to the 'kingdom of God'. This is one mistake we often make. Mis-contextualizing. We often take scripture which aadresses one issue and apply it albeit without wisdom to every encounter. You are bound to err. This scripture applies to peoples having existing relationships which to any Christian is within his spiritual arc of influence. His Servants, His Brothers... these are particular groups of people the scripture addresses. And not any and everyone. If you take scripture like that you will experience what appears to be several contradictions.

Another classic example is where God explicitly commands you 'not to kill' but a few books later 'commands you not to spare anyone'. To unravel the quagmire you have to contextualize and hear out the Spirit of God for clarity. You will be surprised that the scripture which says, love your enemies applies to the 'Kingdom of God', the body of Christ' but most folks mistakenly advance it to all peoples at all times and in all situations condemning soldiers, judges, kings and all those who take life in the process of adminstering justice and governing society guilty of violating God's Word while in most cases they are rather doing his laws.

Hahahaha just had to laugh at your level of ignorance.

God is the Father of us all and as humans we are all brothers and sisters.

When God said love ur neighbour as u love urself He wasn t just referring the person next door but all that are around u wherever u go or be. In school, place of work, market etc those u see there are ur neigbours and u are to love them.

Stop looking silly excuses to disobey God

jayAjoku:
and in conclusion you don't know what the gospel is so my friend convert to islam thank you

THIS IS THE GOSPEL OF OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST ABOUT UNFORGIVENESS AND YOU CAN SEE THE PICTURE OF DAVID IBIYEOMIE AND HIS LIKES


MATTHEW 18:21-35

21 Then came Peter to him, and said, Lord, how oft shall
my brother sin against me,
and I forgive him? till seven
times?

22 Jesus saith unto him, I say not unto thee, Until seven times: but, Until seventy times seven.

23 Therefore is the kingdom of heaven likened unto a certain king, which would take account of his servants.

24 And when he had begun to reckon, one was brought unto him, which owed him ten thousand talents.

25 But forasmuch as he had not to pay, his lord commanded him to be sold, and his wife, and children, and all that he had, and payment to be made.

26 The servant therefore fell down, and worshipped him,
saying, Lord, have patience
with me, and I will pay thee
all.

27 Then the lord of that servant was moved with
compassion, and loosed him,
and forgave him the debt.

28 But the same servant went out, and found one of his
fellowservants, which owed
him an hundred pence: and he laid hands on him, and took him by the throat, saying, Pay me that thou owest.

29 And his fellowservant fell down at his feet, and besought him, saying, Have patience with me, and I will pay thee all.
30 And he would not: but went and cast him into
prison, till he should pay the
debt.

31 So when his fellowservants saw what was done, they were very sorry, and came and told unto their lord all that was done.

32 Then his lord, after that he had called him, said unto him,
O thou wicked servant, I
forgave thee all that debt,
because thou desiredst me:

33 Shouldest not thou also have had compassion on thy
fellowservant, even as I had
pity on thee?

34 And his lord was wroth, and delivered him to the tormentors, till he should pay all that was due unto him.

35 So likewise shall my heavenly Father do also
unto you, if ye from your
hearts forgive not every one
his brother their trespasses.

jayAjoku:
What the hell is this one saying? are you trying to say believers should not be taught how to prosper as well as win souls ? i can see you are shallow minded i have not seen a true believing church that doesn't preach soul winning with prosperity
come to portHarcourt go to bayelsa and see how souls are been won check how much churches spend on evangelism worldwide my friend if you don't know what you're saying just keep shut the gospel is spreading all over the earth and you are here in your shallow state trying to find solace in pitiful stories wake up to reality things are happening the gospel is spreading and that's the same way the devil is fighting its spread. so didn't apostle paul talk about prosperity? didn't jesus talk about it? is the basic doctrine of the church poverty? abeg if that is the doctrine of your own start giving me all your money o lemme gelp people that need it

How many of them are truly saved from sin?

How many of the so called souls won are truly saved?

Prosperity and reigning mindset is what is killing the church faster.

Instead of warning members to completely flee from sin, they rather say if you sin just ask for forgiveness and continue.

No wonder members steal money from govt, companies and even rob junior staffs their wages and send bulks of cash to pastors.

Do you think God accepted such money?

Macrichie01:
Come let us reason together, though your sins be as dark as scarlet, i'll make you to be as white as snow. Kemi has to come 1st. You don't forgive someone who has not acknowledged her wrong! Thats pride, she has a reprobate mind. As long as she can't see anything wrong in what she's doing then there's no place for forgiveness. You people should not misinterprete the Bible just for attention. Even the prodigal son went to the father before he was forgiven.

Youi are not God. We are to forgive our adversary first to be free from God's wrath butr God will handle the adversary.

ndcide:
You are not God. Our God is a God of justice, law and order. Pastor ibiyeomie can forgive her, but he must not stop the law from taking its course.

When the likes of freeze, kemi, Otobo and others peddle falsehood do you open threads to stop them, or did you give support to the claims by being in different?

The reason why this thread is on the front page is not because of what you wrote, but because Seun and nairaland admin, hate the church and wants to ridicule the church with posts that diminishes the church.

Do you speak out when people post lies and evil?

What ever you allow on earth, is allowed in heaven so says the scriptures.

Pastor David has forgiven her, but the law must be made effective.

Ecclesiastes 8:11 (KJV) Because sentence against an evil work is not executed speedily, therefore the heart of the sons of men is fully set in them to do evil.

Even politicians for their material gains tolerates more falsehood from the masses more than the pastors.

Pastor David Ibiyeomie can not deny he is behind Kemi's arrest and prosecution. He is even a witness to testify in court.

God is the God of justice but yet merciful and compassionate always forgiving sins. If David can't forgive Kemi then God will not forgive him whether he is a pastor or not

jayAjoku:
omo his kingdom is of this world and of the world above if e dey pain you na ur biz so na only for heaven christians suppose reign? show me where it says that we shouldn't enjoy heaven on earth first and then i will sell my self to you . its a pity you don't have the mindset of reigning on earth

Since the anti christ invaded the church with the gospel of prosperity and reigning as kings, the church has lost its basic doctrines.

Nwachukwu1986:
They could hav allowed her to prove her allegation for us to know if she has facts not locking her up. As Otobo was allowed to but unlucky she gat no prove

While hanging on the cross with much pains He prayed and said "Father, forgive them for they know not what they do".

Stephen before he gave up the ghost prayed for those who persecuted and stoned him to death that God should forgive them


Despite living in luxury and in an air conditioned house, church and cars yet Pastor David cannot forgive mere accusation?

Okoh1:
everything u said is nothing but crap.

a complete balderdash..

infact, all of u preaching forgiveness are snakes under rose flowers.

where were all you idiots when kemi's mouth was leaking like a diarrhea patient?

you all were waiting for somebody to rise up against the diarrhea patient to start typing rubbish on social media in the guise of preaching forgiveness


#ihatehypocrites#

If saying the truth makes me an idiot then i will gladly accept it.

As a believer in Christ you don't have a reputation to protect but to bear the Name of the Lord which comes with diverse persecution.

Christ already made it clear that things that will cause many to stumble/fall away from the faith will come but woe unto whom it will come.

Christ set a perfect example for us to pray for those who despise us and forgive them. So, why can't David forgive? Or is he now greater than Christ?

Whether true or false, Kemi has a case to answer before God not before David Ibiyeomie

Pastor David Ibiyeomie is fond of quoting this scripture

Exodus 22:18
Thou shalt not suffer a witch
to live.

But he forgot that rebelling against God's word is as witchraft

1 Samuel 15:23
For rebellion is as the sin of
witchcraft, and stubbornness
is as iniquity and idolatry.
Because thou hast rejected
the word of the LORD, he
hath also rejected thee from being king.

So, since rebellion against God means witchcraft and Pastor David Ibiyeomie is rebelling against God's word to forgive Kemi Olunloyo, what shall we do unto him?

godlycounsel:
God forgives when you repent. No where God forgave Adam because of his arrogance and excuse. God only forgives those who truly repent and forsake their sins.

Mark 11:25-26 says

25 And when ye stand praying,
forgive, if ye have ought
against any: that your Father
also which is in heaven may
forgive you your trespasses.

26 But if ye do not forgive,
neither will your Father which
is in heaven forgive your
trespasses.

Matthew 5:23-24 l23

Therefore if thou bring thy
gift to the altar, and there
rememberest that thy brother
hath ought against thee;

24 Leave there thy gift before
the altar, and go thy way; first
be reconciled to thy brother,
and then come and offer thy
gift.

You are not God. So, to save urself from God's wrath due to unforgiveness, u must forgive ur offenders first to free urself then its left for offendr to repent in order to make peace with God.

danielicon:
you are not serious in anyway. am telling you. listen, don't just rush to forgiveness when someone intentionally trying to bring u down for no reason. and besides the lady in question is not asking for forgiveness. just like Suleiman and Stephenie otobo, if Stephenie is found guilty, someone would talk about forgiveness

Kemi do not need to ask for forgiveness before Pastor David can forgive her. Pastor David must forgive Kemi for his own good.

How many times has Kemi offended David Ibiyeomie in a day?

Matthew 18:21-22

21 Then came Peter to him, and said, Lord, how oft shall
my brother sin against me,
and I forgive him? till seven
times?

22 Jesus saith unto him, I say not unto thee, Until seven times: but, Until seventy times seven.


Failure to forgive and reconcile with Kemi will be an act of disobedience

jackydon:
He's a human been too, he's not Jesus Christ.
If Kemi wants forgiveness she should apologize.
Kemi is practicing destructive journalism.


Her Gown make me

If Pastor David Ibiyeomie is truly a believer in Christ, then he must forgive and reconcile with Kemi else he is just deciving himslf

Every true christians should know that forgiveness is a vital and unnegotiable virtue we must possess and express at all time no matter the circumstance we may find ourselves in.

Mark 11:25-26 says

25 And when ye stand praying, forgive, if ye have ought against any: that your Father also which is in heaven may forgive you your trespasses.

26 But if ye do not forgive, neither will your Father which is in heaven forgive your trespasses.

Matthew 5:23-24

l23 Therefore if thou bring thy gift to the altar, and there rememberest that thy brother hath ought against thee;

24 Leave there thy gift before the altar, and go thy way; first be reconciled to thy brother, and then come and offer thy gift.

The above Scriptures were the exact words of Our Lord Jesus Christ on the importance of forgiveness and reconciliation. The Master said even if we are praying and remember we have not forgiven someone who offended us, that we should forgive such person immidately so we also can be forgiven by the Father. He also said if we brought gift(s) to the Father and remembered we have an unsettle matter with someone, He said we should drop the gift(s) at the alter, go and make peace with such person first before returning to offer the gift(s).

Our Lord Jesus Christ categorically told His disciples that they shall suffer persecution just like Him

Hear Him

John 15:20

Remember the word that I
said unto you, The servant is
not greater than his lord. If
they have persecuted me,
they will also persecute you;
if they have kept my saying, they will keep yours also.

I want us to note that the persecution mentioned above wasn't referring to having large congregations that pays huge tithes and offerrings, living a luxury life with fleets of exotic cars and private jets. Neither was He referring to your church members singing your praise but it includes Kemi Olunloyo accusing Pastor David Ibiyeomie of having a side chic called Actress Iyabo Ojo etc.

No matter the level of persecution we may face, we were already told to forgive our adversary. It is not in our nature as christians to arrest and prosecute anyone no matter what they did to us rather the Bible said in

1 Peter 2:12

Live such good lives among
the pagans that, though they
accuse you of doing wrong,
they may see your good
deeds and glorify God on the
day he visits us.

Forgiveness is the key and forgiveness is the way to everlasting salvation. Our Lord Jesus Christ forgave and prayed for those who crucified Him. Stephen before he gave up the ghost, also forgave and prayed for those who stoned him to death.

James 1:2 said

Consider it pure joy, my
brothers and sisters,
whenever you face trials of
many kinds,

Acts 5:41

The apostles left the
Sanhedrin, rejoicing because
they had been counted
worthy of suffering disgrace
for the Name.


CONCLUSION.

If you know Pastor David Ibiyeomie, help me tell him that he MUST FORGIVE, RECONCILE WITH KEMI OLUNLOYO AND MAKE SURE SHE IS HAPPY OR ELSE GOD WILL NOT FORGIVE HIM FOR ARRESTING AND IMPRISONING KEMI OLUNLOYO. HE MUST DO IT FOR HIS OWN GOOD.





PEACE!

sharpden:
So if it were in military regime, you will tell them that they can't summon you? This democracy set!

Do you think that they could have intimidated the military head of state like they are doing to Buhari now?

seunlly:
They must fight for their right.
Oya solidarity forever we shall always fight for our right.

Fight for their right? I laugh in an unknown tongue oh

See make i tell u say na their own share dem wan collect and na for labour leaders only.



Na d real labourers go suffer pass

Benekruku:
You do have a point though. It's not expensive for a brand new car compared to prices of its competitors. What Inosson does not have is the strategy. People don't see or know it's product. People re not yet convinced about its reliability and safety. He needs a lot to prove and I doubt if that can be done from a distance considering the fact that he is still yet to break into the market.

You said people are not yet convinced about the reliability and safety of the brand which was the reason i said the brand is expensive.

An average Nigerian will rather spend the same amount on tokumbo because he or she is convinced of the brand.

Innonson should make their cars a bit affordable for Nigerians to be attracted to buy and they should advertise their products to the public.

Innonson should also forget about competing with other brands for now rather they should concerntrate on attracting Nigerians to buy their cars and ensure its durable, reliable and safe for us.

Benekruku:
Hello! Innoson presently can rival the least auto brand in Nigeria as of date. His top rivals would be closer to the market which will always knock him off among contenders.

Top brands of everything always stay in or close to the market.

You talked about deep sea port, do you know how many years that will take?

I believe if he wants to have a chance to compete. He needs to come the market big time.

As for me i think the location isn't a factor to determine his success or failure but his marketing strategies.

Many top brands do not have manufacturing or assembling plants in Nigeria but Nigeria but we place order and ship to Nigeria. If u doubt me go and ask Saraki the Avenger where he bought his range rover from.

Innonson should take advertising more serious because many are not aware of the brand and the cars are so expensive which is major concern too.

Benekruku:
Why Uyo?


Cant he bring it to the West or any state that has close proximity to Lagos. He is just running away from the real market.

Must everything be linked to Lagos before it will survive?

Ibaka deep sea port when fully operation is the major reason he moved that project to Uyo since the VP said the FG has provided N1bn in this year's budget for the work to commence.

If all other sea ports in the country are functioning well, who will want to go to a city where he/she will wake as early 4am just to get to work by 7am to work or do business?

If Buhari is serious enough to fight corruption he should reach out to Ribadu.

Since they are fighting Magu with baseless excuse; Buhari should Ribadu them asap

I think Nigeria is still waiting for China to give the approval so Nigeria can become the clearing hub in West Africa for Chinese Yuan.



www.thenationonlineng.net/deal-china-not-currency-swap-minister/

Where are the Niger Delta Militants when u need them most?

Where are the RPGs in the region?

Why not take the helicopter down?

They are using the helicopter to furnish herdsmen with weapons and u guys are waiting for ur death before u can act?

I give up