seunH:
God bless you, okay if you say we need to be medically qualified to teach MBBS students, what of medlab, pharmacy, radiography, physiotherapy, Bsc Anatomy/Physiology/bch etc, do we also need to be medically qualified to teach them too

As far you are trained in the college of medicine you are medically qualified

If they should succeed with their plans soon nurses and medical laboratory scientist will start seeking for them only to be lecturing nursing student you must have a bsc Nursing and for you to lecture MLS students you need to have a BMLS background
And this will force the way to creation of more faculties for Nursing and MLS

I trust AMLSN
They are gonna do the needful
I hope the doctors succeed on this

More chaos is coming as they won't try to undermine other professionals and get away with it

Just relax

Even nurses do give anaesthesia but in Nigeria doctors have made it available for themselves

BarristerAlarig:



Which country allows Nurse practitioner/ specialist perform surgery?

A consultant nurse can perform surgery
You have your internet I won't spoon feed you

BarristerAlarig:



Which country allows Nurse practitioner/ specialist perform surgery?

A consultant nurse can perform surgery
You have your internet I won't spoon feed you

seunH:
Then to the Med Lab peeps, Please I'll like to ask? what is the role of a MBBS pathologist in a medical lab, cos I'm yet to be convinced of their relevance?

Good question
I loved people who wants to learn and not spread ignorance as the op
I already decided not to answer him

As we all know medicine wasn't this great when it started
It has grown into what it is today even today the extent of smuggling the title doctor instead of physician

Then followed Nursing as started by Nightingale

Something all of us should know is that every profession is developing and it's development can't be hindered by any profession

Even consultancy in medicine is a developed form of medicine

Now comes the question what is the role of pathologist(Dr)

A pathologist is a doctor or a scientist according to Wikipedia
The Doctors smuggled it too since they came first before the scientist

As every field and career
They all started from little
The doctors were the ones who Dec to have scientist in order to lessen the burden on them
And as at that they were running errands for doctors
As professionalization and development continues they grew into the great profession of Biomedical sciences(MLS)

In recent years due to their less clinical knowledge pathologist(Dr) were still heading them
Here comes the problem
The scientist then decided to increase their training so that they can gain more clinical experience and training so that they can fully exercise their rights as medical laboratory scientist
Hence the need for MLSD, Science Training Program(STP) UK, Higher Specialist Scientist Training Program(HSST) UK , Merging to train with pathologist(Dr)in the Royal College of Pathology FCRPath US

After undergoing any of this training they are now competent both in clinical and experience to man and head the lab effectively

We scientist are telling the doctors to vacate the labs now as we have developed to the extent that we can man the lab effectively
Even a BMLS degree holder can interpret his results without a mistake not talking about an experience scientist with more training

We can man the lab effectively as scientist but the doctors are Adam since they came into existence before us

But we have shown them every profession is autonomous
Doctors who still wants to be pathologist are wasting their time as we scientist are already heading the labs effectively

This is the time for doctors to concentrate on treating patients and not fighting for the headship of labs

The advanced degree are in place to give the clinical knowledge
Doctors are not longer needed in the labs
Let them concentrate on treating patients

That's all

Pathologist will soon go into extinction in this country when MLSD and the post graduate college of medical laboratory science is finally integrated

Just BMLS is giving them hard time lol

femianski:

No matter how you try to package it. Vet Medicine is not a medical course.

Leave the boy
Jamb no dey tire am
I have already done justice to the topic
I have brought out facts with verifiable links
Until he decides to be sensible and reasonable let him keep deceiving himself

Any sensible reader who come across the thread can read through the argument and draw out sense

Veterinary medicine is never lucrative
I better study agriculture than to do that shit for six years

He has been spewing rubbish since he created this thread
All the rubbish he brought out I counter them with official links and facts and not random Google search

It pains me to see a reasonable person comparing a medical course to an agricultural designed(playing second fiddle to agriculturalists)

I could never as a reasonable human being can spit trash and say vets make money than medicals even in research
It pains mostly because he is a jambite who is confused

I just dey pity am
He even compared biochemistry and SLT to MLS
Very disrespectful and disgracing

I wonder how a normal human being will say a consultant scientist is playing second fiddle to a pathologist(dr)
I wonder how a normal human being will say consultant nurses are playing second fiddle to doctors

I won't how a normal human being will compare choreography to medical courses
I just feel pity for his ignorance
The most painful part is that he is just a jambite who couldn't get medicine but decided to run and study veterinary medicine just to bear the title doctor
It's easier to get admission into veterinary medicine when compared to any agricultural course

The highest he can achieve is becoming a virologist which is just one area of medical laboratory science

He is enjoying the brandishing and packaging on Google
Even going will tell you a botanist have a better job prospects compared to MLS

I hope he leaves Google and face realities

I already give up on him

Make una leave the op alone
He is a medicine and surgery reject
He has been writing jamb for a long time to no avail
He decided to switch to veterinary medicine to see if he can be called a doctor not knowing there's a difference between medical doctors and doctors(the disgruntled)

You people should leave him alone
I have come across such
Later they will be preaching about one health

I will be observing the thread now

No more arguments since he has chooses to be ignorant

Zeeknow3245:

I won't argue with you that much. You ask for proof I gave you. So only Ghana that's offering it as a degree. If you like make it 10 years you would still play that second fiddle
*I gave you all the courses offered as Doctoral degree
*You asked if it is sorted here and Abroad and I told you their Salaries. That we earn far more than you guys naw. I provided the link
*You asked if we provided Vaccines and I gave it to you, provided our Veterinary Research Institutes and products.
*You asked for how top are we in job position and if we receive CONMESS. I gave it to you and even told you guys earn CONHESS and CONPASS.
*You asked for saturation, I told you that less than 10 schools offer Veterinary Medicine and over 90 offer Laboratory Science. In Nigeria only few schools offer Veterinary Medicine and they're only 13 Federal schools only. MLS over 70 both private, public and state schools. Which is supposed to be saturated.
*You asked if there's Veterinary Post graduate College I showed you.
*I showed a Teaching Hospital
What more do you want. I am not the Reason you're studying MLS abi you're a MLS graduate. My phone dictionary doesn't even have MLS the only MLS is Major League Soccer in the US.
So just calm down,do your MBBS and become a Doctor and then proceed to be a Pathologist so you can head lab instead if being a Lab manager.
Veterinary Medicine will always be Important in this Life. If it wasn't useful, many countries even the poorest countries would not have a Research Institute for it.
I am not a Jambite. Stop the hate and heal

Poor jambite lol
Disgruntled one at that
I have already proved that MLSD is known as DCLS in the US but your ignorance won't allow you to grab

You said we are lab managers lol
What a myopic view

You mean after all the lights I shared on this topic won't take you out of the dark

About playing a second fiddle
It's ridiculous
I already showed you were consultants and doctors of medical laboratory scientist are trained for the purpose of heading the labs

Even here in Nigeria
Doctors don't head medical laboratories anymore

Like I said
Enter the system first
Then you go understand why you people are not considered as health professionals

I give up on you now

You can keep spreading your ignorance everywhere

Bye

Zeeknow3245:

Laboratory Scientist can't care naw because you're Second fiddle. Does your decision count in the hospital? Please if you have time Check Professor Oyewale Tomori because Vets can't work in Health abi and they're equivalent of Medical Doctors? How do people think?
Somebody is an equivalent of something and he's not part of the field? .
If you don't care about Polio Virus, Meningitis,
Rabies, Anthrax, Yellow fever, Malaria,HIV,Ebola,Coronavirus, Vaccines,Canine force in the Police,same for Equine, Tuberculosis. The WHO,OIE,Non-Profit Organizations, NAFDAC, Prisons Unit,NDLEA, Nigeria Army, Air Force and our government cares.

Google told you that you guys are equivalent to medical doctors lol

Oboy enter the system and graduate first no need to keep arguing with a poor jambite like you lol

Zeeknow3245:

Why do I use Medical Doctors to butress my point? Tell that to Wikipedia who says "The Veterinary Doctor,Doctor of Veterinary Medicine, Veterinary Medical Doctor, Vet physician or Vet surgeon is the equivalent of a Human". I am not Wikipedia and this article had been written over a Decade.
You can consult your dictionary if you care. Tell your dictionary to stop calling them Medical Doctors oo.

Until you gain admission

I pray you gain admission and graduate from your veterinary medicine

Then you go know why veterinary medicine has no relevance and the loud ovation you have been giving it since you open this thread

Google go make you a rich vet lol

Zeeknow3245:

Lol out ooo. Una no get anything. It is still pending abi

You are a poor jambite
You could read it has been pass into law by NASS just awaiting presidential assent

Disgruntled jambite

Zeeknow3245:

Guy Veterinary Medicine is not Under the NHS so stop whining naw. Take a look at this before you think they are under the Ministry of Health.
The Veterinary Medicines Directorate (VMD) is an Executive Agency of the Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs (Defra) seeking to protect public health, animal health, the environment and promoting animal welfare by assuring the safety, quality and efficacy of veterinary medicines in the United Kingdom.
Veterinary Medicine in Nigeria is under the Ministry of Agriculture naw who is talking NHS? I never mentioned NHS naw so what's the Problem? Is it because we're paid CONMESS that's hurting you this bad in public service? Calm down naw.
Veterinary Medicine is a Medical course not Allied. It is a Liaison between Man and Animals, Man and Food and Man and Diseases.
I don't think you should press further

NHS are for medical not agriculture
You can keep competing with agriculturalists
Stop trying to claim medical
If you are actually in the medical line the NHS would have included vet doctors for jobs
The NHS deal with health and medical
Just face your competition with zoologist and agriculturalists and stop trying to be relevant by mentioning medical doctors
No matter how you try to brandish your veterinary medicine it wouldn't still change the fact that you are just an animal scientist and no job prospects outside the shores for you

Please learn to pick fights with professionals when you are done with your jamb

Zeeknow3245:

. Noted the beakering must stop and I really Apologise. In George's Orwell Animal Farm"All animals are equal but some are more equal than others

And veterinary medicine can only be compared to zoology

You can keep doing business with abokis who herd animals Stop trying to mention health courses to be relevant

We don't care about what happens in the animals clinic

ok

Zeeknow3245:
You don't see the Human Doctors fighting the
Veterinary profession or vice versa because we're all Pilots. The Human Doctors which head the Passenger Planes and the Veterinarians who head the fighter jet. So where do we put Medical Laboratory Scientists......Techincal staff.It is an Independent field of treating other creatures. Do we have resident doctors? Yes of course. It is an independent profession and we don't need approval from any body for it.
Take at this below. It is in Nigeria here not abroad FYI. This is just a glimpse. If you want to make further investigations check Blueblood Vet. Yes they have a wonderful technical staff consisting Radiographers and our beloved Medical Laboratory Scientists

I don't care whatever you call them or whatever position they fill but I just want to clarify you that only a scientist can head a scientist

Like I do say I don't know much about your post graduate college

When I have the time I will do justice to it

Shalom

Zeeknow3245:

Well not to lead yourself astray, We have a Veterinary College a Post grad at that. I even forgot that we are called Surgeons. Wait is there any like Medical Laboratory Surgery?.
This is the link my humble mister https://www.vcn.gov.ng/College-of-Veterinary
Less I forget the picture below the first is a Veterinary teaching Hospital for "Animals"were the likes of your profession with PhD are employed as Technical staff.

I don't know much about your post graduate college but when I have the spare time I will do justice to it

As for post graduate college

ours as being signed by NASS just awaiting presidential assent
https://medicalworldnigeria.com/post/national-postgraduate-college-of-medical-laboratory-science-bill-passed-into-law?pid=23722

In that college they will be training specialist scientist to become a consultant

I wonder how a consultant will be playing second fiddle to a pathologist lol

What a poor jambite

Zeeknow3245:

Now let me show this. You will definitely be pained but just take a look at this. It was last updated last month https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/skilled-worker-visa-shortage-occupations/skilled-worker-visa-shortage-occupations
From the picture below, my humble boss you are a "Lab Technician". Anybody can be a Lab Technician with a degree in sciences. SLT are lab technicians same goes for biochemists who work in the Lab but you can't be a Veterinarian. You see the title "Veterinarian" it is only unique to us. You said we're not sort after right? You guessed wrong. We earn 12000 pounds your annual income. So you can go to the UK and fight them. Who would even believe Choreographers are paid higher than you guys?
Animal Health isn't Human health remember that

You are so ignorant
Are you this dumb that you don't know the difference between a Lab technician and a medical laboratory technician/scientist

https://www.jobs.nhs.uk/xi/search_vacancy/
https://www.jobs.nhs.uk/xi/search_vacancy/?action=search&staff_group=SG35&keyword=Biomedical%20Science

The first link is a free search for you
You can search for jobs there and I think this will clear your ignorance
The second link is a job adverts for biomedical scientist(medical laboratory scientist)

You can see clearly that we are not lab technician
A biochemical scientist starts from band 5 earning not less than 18k euros in the UK
A clinical scientist(STP) start from band 6/7 earning not less than 30/40k euros
A consultant clinical scientist starts from band 7/8 earning not less than 70k euros

I have already told you to stop displaying your ignorance by sharing random Google links

I will keep spoon feeding you from the UK health sector NHS

From the links above you can also see the pay on the job description

Zeeknow3245:

Are you really this pained about being a "Side Chick". Nurses that are Top Tier side Chick that even head units not department as I was made to understand by a Foreign Nurse and an Embryologist are not these pained as your Profession is. Veterinary Laboratory Technology is offered in Nigeria in our NVRI and a picture below will prove to you that Veterinary Laboratory Technology is a Bsc degree in many countries so stop claiming one kind of Demi god. An example is below
If you can be affable,I can show you other Universities in the world offering it

Hahaha you know one thing I loved about you
You love bringing random Google links
Everything you have been sharing so far are Random
No official links
You said nurses are top tier side chicks to medical doctors(not vets)
You love hailing medical doctors
That's to show you how poor and myopic you have been
Stop using medical doctors to buttress your point
You talk carelessly that I wonder if you even have a brain
I clearly prove to you that in the UK we have consultant nurses
Do you know what it takes to be a consultant?
You don't know but let me help your ignorance
Consultancy status need more training and specialization
I don't know more about Nursing if not I would have showed you there specialization
Do you know there are nurses who perform surgery?
Do you know their are nurses who administer anaesthesia?
What do you think of Nursing?
As far professionalization is concerned every profession is autonomous and it's not tied to the spring of any profession
A doctor cannot head nurses same way pathologist(dr) can't head scientist

Every profession is developing that doesn't mean they are trying to be like others

Until your ignorance leave you to understand this you will keep writing jamb every year

Zeeknow3245:
This will further show why MLS is one of the most saturated courses in the UK. Ask for the link I give you.
I can't talk to much. This is from a UK site a popular one at that. Feel free to check the link https://ghoopi.com/reason-not-to-studying-biomedical-science/

Like I said stop giving me random Google links

You said MLS is saturated but from the app links I showed you countless job adverts for medical laboratory scientist(biomedical scientist) for the post of Biomedical science, clinical scientist and consultant/specialist scientist

The UK needs more scientist to fill their labs

https://www.jobs.nhs.uk/xi/search_vacancy/?action=search&staff_group=SG35&keyword=Biomedical%20Science
https://www.jobs.nhs.uk/xi/search_vacancy/?action=search&staff_group=SG35
https://www.jobs.nhs.uk/xi/search_vacancy/?action=search&staff_group=SG35&keyword=Trainee

https://www.jobs.nhs.uk/xi/search_vacancy/

Those links are directly from the NHS UK
NHS is the official health Link for jobs in the health sector
You can go through it
Stop feeding me random links from Google
From the links I just put above you can see MLS is not saturated
I won't want to go about searching for veterinary medicine as it will be a waste of time

Biomedical is never saturated
We have high job prospects outside the shores

What about veterinary medicine?
I forgot you guys don't have a market lol

Be realistic man and stop allowing Google to feed you with lies

Zeeknow3245:
This will further show why MLS is one of the most saturated courses in the UK. Ask for the link I give you.
I can't talk to much. This is from a UK site a popular one at that. Feel free to check the link https://ghoopi.com/reason-not-to-studying-biomedical-science/

Do you know why I hate arguing with poor jambite like?
It's because they can never reason sensibly even when the write up is cleared on the wall

Now I will elaborate since your ignorance won't allow you to check the links I exhaustively searched and put above

You can keep saying rubbish that there's nothing like MLSD in the US
I won't dwell on that as far I have proved that to the anonymous viewers of this thread who went through the links I shared above
So you can keep speaking ignorantly

About discussing in the US every year to improve our profession according to your screenshot
It's an old article
Search well and you will see schools offering DCLS(MLSD)in the US
I won't get you links for that as I already showed above from the links that MLSD started in US and already in Ghana
Keep writing yourself in self denial
I already proved MLSD(DCLS) is already in US and Ghana
Whatever you type it's none of my business since you are so dumb to read and comprehend

As far MLSD is already in Ghana
It will soon start in Nigeria
Thank God you acknowledged shamelessly that MLSD is already in Ghana
Why not Nigeria?

About the Ascls you are bickering about
They are equivalent to the AMLSN in Nigeria

Your problem is that you can't read and comprehend and you will keep killing yourself in self denial

Anyway I forgot you are just a poor jambite
A disgruntled one at that

femianski:

Can you imagine? You don't know how shocked I was when I found out he's not even in the medical line but just an ordinary veterinary student. No wonder he always slots in Veterinary medicine into any argument concerning human health.

check the links I shared

Until you graduate you won't know why veterinary medicine is useless in this country

And for your info

There's no career abroad for veterinary doctors
If there's explain and elaborate

Until then continue your jamb preparations on your journey to veterinary medicine and playing second fiddle to medical doctors

Google will keep feeding you with lies until you will decide to use your numb skull

And please don't forget to tell us about the veterinary doctors who you said are on conmess
please do

I am feeling sleepy now

See you tomorrow and wishing you a happy weekend

Don't you ever in your life compare any medical courses to your useless veterinary medicine

As for you being proud of vet institute lol
You are so naive
Common SLT have an institute
Nothing to be proud of poor jambite
Like they do tell you in the medical student thread where I found this thread link
Jamb no dey tire you lol
You will keep writing jamb every year until you understand that there's nothing like paramedical or allied in college of medicine

About the vaccine lol
Common biochemist can produce a vaccine
You guys are too irrelevant as I saw some of your seniors preaching one health in a microbiology group on WhatsApp trying to enlighten people on the importance of poor vet doctors in one health
what a cursed profession

Saying you guys have your own lab in ncdc lol
What a low thinking
Do I need to enlighten you that medical laboratory scientist have their own department now in all hospitals
According to the national industrial court of Nigeria
The only way to work in a medical laboratory is to get a BMLS degree
Pathologists don't longer come close to any medical laboratory
Poor jambite

Zeeknow3245:

Really?.I will let this slide. I can't prolong the issue again.

Do I need to remind you between you and me who is disgruntled now
You poor jambite
After you weren't able to get medicine and surgery you are trying to smuggle the title doctor by choosing veterinary medicine

You keep saying we scientist are playing second fiddle
Do I need to remind you how vet are playing second choice to the extent of not being considered a Mem of the health team

You keep saying we are trying to bear the titles rather it's you vets that are trying hard to keep relevant by calling yourself doctors

You said MLSD doesn't exist in anywhere rather it's a diploma in medical laboratory science
But I have present you proof from Ghana our neighbor
US where it started
It's in the above links
You said we are trying hard to bear the titles doctor but do I need to remind you a PhD holder is a doctor
You guys can keep using the title doctor but the stigma of using the prefix animal or vet will always be a torn on your flesh
only scientist and MBBS doctors can use the word medical on introducing yourself

As a vet student you can't be called a medical student
you use the word paramedical or allied bla bla on us but from the link I have clearly shown you that we are not allied or assistant rather we are in the medical line ourselves

I have also shown you from the above links that we under go further training such as the well paid STP program to become scientist in the UK
Also we can further under go a five additional HSST program with a well paid package to become consultant/specialist scientist
Now you tell me how many consultant vet medics you have seen?
Tell me where in the world you guys are trained to become consultant/specialist
I do know the MBBS doctors undergo residency but I haven't seen any vet medic undergoing special training aside doing masters and PhD to become poor virologist in a reference lab if luck smiles on him

You can also see from the links I provided above that we have consultant nurses
You tell me how can a consultant nurse be playing second fiddle

It's only in Nigeria here all this happen

Soon we will be integrating MLSD in Nigeria
And our post graduate college will be set like the one in the USA

But please don't argue with health professionals as you guys relevance is negligible

Zeeknow3245:

Really?.I will let this slide. I can't prolong the issue again.

I have heard enough about the jargons you spew on this thread and I have taken the pains to go about looking for what I need especially links and verified facts

I don't like lecturing people like you who don't want to learn but I will do this for the sake of people viewing this thread especially aspirant

I have gone to the UK official health site NHS and the ASCP USA for scientists to get you verifiable facts and not random Google search

I hope you go through the links peacefully especially anonymous viewers of this thread

https://www.ascp.org/content/board-of-certification/about-boc
The link above is from USA
ASCP are the ones who license medical laboratory scientist and pathologist(dr) in the USA
You said it's pathologist(dr) who license scientist in the USA but from the above link you can see that ASCP is a birth between ASCL(American society for clinical Scientist) and ASCP(American society for clinical pathologist)
So you saying we are being licensed by doctors in the US is a sheer lie and ignorance

https://www.ascp.org/content

do well to go through this with the above one

https://shp.rutgers.edu/clinical-lab-and-imaging-sciences/doctorate-of-clinical-lab-science/
https://shp.utmb.edu/ClinicalLaboratorySciences/dcls/default.asp
https://ascls.org/dcls/
The above three links is about MLSD
You said there's nothing like MLSD rather you said it's called Diploma in Medical Laboratory Science but from the links above you can see that Doctorate degree in medical laboratory science is already in Ghana and the USA
You can see from the above link that there's a doctorate in in medical laboratory science

https://ascls.org/dcls/
This link above is officially from the US Association of Clinical Scientist talking about the doctorate degree
You can clearly see for yourself no need to argue that with you

https://myhealthbasics.site/doctor-of-medical-laboratory-sciences-mls-d-at-uds/
https://www.drehmkannde.com/meet-the-first-batch-of-doctor-of-medical-laboratory-science-mls-d/
Above is more link about the doctorate degree in medical laboratory science in Ghana

https://nshcs.hee.nhs.uk/programmes/stp/
In the UK medical laboratory scientist are called biomedical scientist and the link above is about the further training scientist undergo after BMLS degree
The training last for 3 years
And in this period of three years you will be paid well
You will be earning around 30k US dollars a year for three years
The STP is equivalent to MLSD in the US
https://nshcs.hee.nhs.uk/programmes/stp/applicants/
You can see for yourself that scientist fury go more training in the world so why must Nigeria be a difference

https://nshcs.hee.nhs.uk/programmes/hsst/
https://nshcs.hee.nhs.uk/programmes/hsst/applicants/
https://nshcs.hee.nhs.uk/programmes/hsst/
The above training is also done in the UK
This is another five years training scientist undergo after the 3 years STP program to become consultant
This training is called Higher Specialist Scientist Training Program(HSST)
After the program you will automatically become a consultant
And in the period of this 5 years you will be paid well monthly more higher than a clinical scientist
It's just like residency doctors do
https://nshcs.hee.nhs.uk/programmes/hsst/applicants/hsst-specialisms/
During this HSST trainees you will specialize in one of this area as seen from the above link
Audiological science
Cardiac science
Clinical biochemistry
Clinical bioinformatics(genomics)
Clinical biochemistry(health informatics)
Clinical bioinformatics(physical sciences)
Clinical biomedical engineering
Clinical Immunology
Gastrointestinal physiology
Genetics
Haematology
Histocompatibility and Immunogenetics
Medical physics
Molecular pathology of acquired disease
Neurophysiological science
Reproductive science
Respiratory and sleep physiological sciences
Virology

After your five years you will become a consultant

https://www.jobs.nhs.uk
From the above link you can see vet doctors are not regarded as health workers in the UK
So you can see you can't compare veterinary medicine to any health course aside physiology and anatomy or probably pharmacology

https://www.jobs.nhs.uk/xi/search_vacancy/?action=search&staff_group=SG15
From the above link you can see clearly that MLS nor Nursing or pharmacy is an allied medical course
Clearly you can see from the link jobs and careers in allied medical career

https://www.jobs.nhs.uk/xi/search_vacancy/?action=search&staff_group=SG20&keyword=Healthcare%20Assistant
Above are jobs adverts for health care assistant
Do you see Nursing or MLS there?
That's to show you we are not assisting or playing second fiddle to doctors but rather we are professional and autonomous
So I get you cleared on that

https://www.jobs.nhs.uk/xi/search_vacancy/?action=search&staff_group=SG35&keyword=Trainee
From the above link you can also deduce that we are not planning second fiddle as we are scientist by training and profession

https://www.jobs.nhs.uk/xi/search_vacancy/?action=search&staff_group=SG35
The above is also a job advert inviting specialist/consultant scientist who have under go the HSST program which I explained above

https://www.jobs.nhs.uk/doctors/
From the group link you can see that when they call for employment of doctors in the UK
Vet doctors are excluded
only doctors with MBB background are called

https://www.jobs.nhs.uk/xi/search_vacancy/
You can try and use the above link to Google veterinary doctors to see if you have any relevance in the UK not to talk of underdeveloped country like Nigeria lol

https://www.jobs.nhs.uk/xi/search_vacancy/
You can perform all your search on the NHS job links for your useless vet doctors

When ever I come across you I laugh
Do you know why?no
But let me fix you
You are just a jambite
Who is confused about his life
Before you even think of throwing shade at professionals, I will advise you to pass your jamb first
Because without being in the system and raising such matters seems to me childish and ignorant
I don't know if I should lecture you or let me leave but I got to correct some of your myopic notion and I will drill you from the point of a medical laboratory scientist
Medicine is the most sorted science course in Nigeria
Followed by nuts and the list goes down
Do I even need to tell you Veterinary medicine is not even a professional course in Nigeria
I saw you talking about post graduate diploma for Veterinary medicine
Please can you tell me when was your post graduate college passed into bill
Can you tell me what they teach veterinary doctors in those college
What is their area of specialization
As far veterinary medicine is concerned
It's the least sorted health course
Shouldn't tell you that you guys are irrelevant
Oh! I forgot
You are just a jambite
I shouldn't be discussing with you because you are confused
Since you couldn't get medicine you are trying to console your short coming with veterinary medicine
You should know and wise enough even at the level of your ignorance that veterinary medicine is the health course with the easiest admission as people don't even go for it
All those courses you all mentioned above are better and great when compared to veterinary medicine as a career

You said alot of things out of ignorance
But I got to tell you this
Medicine wasn't this great when it started
Medicine as a course got it's contribution from low courses like biochemistry and the rest
And the most lucrative health course in Nigeria is pharmacy and not medical
You saying every degree is upgrading to six years to be relevant
Shows your level of illiteracy
You saying MLS is being controlled by the pathologist in the US or UK is sheer lie and stupidity
The Royal college of pathology which I am sure you are speaking of is a birth between scientist and doctors to throw competent laboratory consultant
Who is a pathologist?
I won't answer that as I am sure Google will cure your dumbness
About MLSD
MLSD was started in the US and is already in Ghana
Why not Nigeria?
Do you know in developed countries we have consultant and specialist nurse who can perform surgery

I don't want to screw you
I will advise you to get admission into the university first even though it's botany
Then you can be qualified to talk to professionals

I have a lot to tell you
But I am not a keyboard warrior
I am kindly waiting for your tag

But please don't mention veterinary medicine even in same line with biochemistry not to talk of health sciences

You can talk after gaining admission and in same line with botany
Your ignorance sucks big time bro
You are just a product of ignorance
Can't you see how normal people avoided talking in your thread
It simply shows your write-up was wack and baseless

I can't allow any of my person to study that God forsaken course called veterinary medicine

iHart:





From this your last statement, we can infer that SLT claim to be MLS because they see MLS as superior. The thing is that people who study the courses know the difference. I can't study industrial Chemistry and come to claim chemical engineer. The two are not the same. If there is a job advert for SLT, an MLS will not apply and vice versa.

FBB100:

SLT is purely industrial while MLS is health oriented.

I didn't didn't degrade SLT
If I do,then prove it

iHart:





From this your last statement, we can infer that SLT claim to be MLS because they see MLS as superior. The thing is that people who study the courses know the difference. I can't study industrial Chemistry and come to claim chemical engineer. The two are not the same. If there is a job advert for SLT, an MLS will not apply and vice versa.

Lol
You are too funny.Yes SLT claims MLS and if you want proof I will give you. I have encountered so much SLT on Facebook and on nairaland who claims they can do what MLS does.They even argued that MLS is a branch of SLT.So they know more than MLS.If you still dispute that SLT don't claim MLS,then ask me to show you proof. I don't talk for talking sake. I am not trying degrade to SLT but I want all this SLT guys to know their job function

iHart:
OP you did not tell us the difference between the two but your last sentence ended up downgrading SLT.

SLT is purely industrial while MLS is health oriented.

I didn't didn't degrade SLT
If I do,then prove it

oz4real83:
Nobody has knowledge 100%, the problem with the principal is his refusal to learn. U also made a mistake, only u cannot be an "alumni" of a school. "Alumni is plural form of "alumnus" which u should have used in your introduction to the principal.

I know that nobody is Mr know all.But all I am asking for is proper enlightenment.Sorry for plural mistake I made.But let the truth be said.If a student came to him for career advice and he said such,he will end up jeopardizing the child future. I mean no insult but all I am saying is that there should be proper enlightenment.If you should visit this guys group on Facebook, you will bleed for their ignorance and what I understood is that,they are all products of wrong career advice

Hi guys. I am sorry for boring you with this little story but please it's worth the time.

I went to the school I wrote my ssce yesterday and I met the second principal who have been posted since I left.Clearly it's a community owned and government managed secondary school.When I came I went straight to the administrative building of which I saw the principal outside attending to some students.As I came closer, I introduced myself and told him I was an alumni of the school.On the process of talking to him,one of my former teacher came around and started talking to me about my education before the principal bashed in with a question.

Principal: what are you studying?
Me: MLS
Principal: you mean SLT in polytechnic?
(at this point I felt ashamed that a principal who could be lecturing his students and advising them on career path,can be so ignorant)
Me: My course is medical laboratory science not SLT and even at that after graduation we are given license to practice
Principal: So the difference between you and them(SLT) is the license
(fuming at the principal's ignorance)
Me: no sir,mls works in the hospital while SLT don't.
Principal: but there are a lot of SLT working in the hospital

When I couldn't tolerate his ignorance and the fact that he's a principal saying this, I just kept my mouth shut.

The reason while I brought what transpired between I and this learned principal yesterday is not to downgrade or body shame any course.
How can a principal not know the difference between MLS and SLT?
What if a student came to him for career advice and he will ignorantly tell the poor child this.
At the end of the day,the child will discover he has been misled.
We have to create awareness as most new jambites and students don't know the difference between MLS and SLT.
At the end of the day,they(SLT) will be claiming MLS

Let's enlighten ourselves....m..

mercytripletz:

Una still carry 2018 matter enter 2021? Nawa o

the baba is just spewing trash let him keep on

Zeeknow3245:
Ibadan

Nice choice of school but you have to get prepared Those guys admission process is too strict Wish you admission in advance