samuelpeters:

Hahahaha!
Bullied kwa
Well without them, Doctors may not treat properly. MLS confirms a Doctor's diagnosis/suspicion. They are like the oracle while doctors are the dibia/babalawo
Reason why them de always fight.
Note: There are cases that don't require a Lab test. A good history taking is enough to diagnose.

MLS only took what belonged to them at a faster pace that they became the face of JOHESU. It should have been Nursing but those ones haven't been able to put their own house in order. NMA vs JOHESU will surely end with Doctors vs MLS.

To your other issue; there is something you need to understand. M.Sc and Ph.D are research degrees not professional.Example: an M.Sc or Ph.D in Nursing or MLS with a B.Sc in biological sciences(BCH/MCB etal) doesn't make you a Nurse or a MedLab scientist.
Why?
Because the professional aspect of those courses are still in their Bachelors Level(B.MLS and B.NSc). So for you to practice, you need their licences that is attached to B.MLS and B.NSc not Masters or Ph.D
Any small wailing they will tell you to take DE and study those courses from undergraduate because that is the foundation of the profession.

Now you know why Doctors do not Further to M.Sc or Ph.D but Postgraduate College(Residency). Because the former is just a research degree which anyone can get especially those that want to lecture basic medicals like Anatomy, Physiology, Medbiochemistry. But Residency is research with a professional touch.
So a Doctor with Masters and Ph.D cannot lecture Clinical students because he doesn't have the requisite knowledge.

Also Note that; MBBS is equivalent with Ph.D So they start at Lecturer II like Ph.D while B.MLS, Pharmacy start at Assistant Lecturer equivalent to Masters.

Now,these professions want to increase their bench mark so it would have an equivalent of Ph.D (MLS.D, Pharm.D, etal) and build their own Postgraduate College. Then anyone that wants to further Professionally goes to Postgraduate College while those that want to further in research or Lecturing can pursue Masters and Ph.D
But in all, MLS.D is not a Nigerian thing. It is just international best practice. The same Medicine started as a Diploma. Until they continue to upgrade till this Level.

Na so e be...
All man wn de set standard. It gives a cut clear career path for their students and graduates.

©️2021.

Bro stop telling this quacks and impersonators such things Because they are so dumb to comprehend
They have councils and the industrial court
Who feel cheated can take the case up same way the mlscn have been doing it
We won't labor for them to eat
Until they organise themselves and stop churning out million of quacks,they will keep dreaming
MLS have come to stay and nothing they can do about it,not even the NMA or MDCN or the shallow pathologist can do about it
We shall keep protecting our boundaries in accordance with the law
Until they learn to purchase Direct entry or jamb form,they will keep being in dark

Zeeknow3245:

Bro I'm not supporting the BCH and MCB. I am not even one. Sorry I sounded rude bro. I may have my reservations towards MLS because of some skirmishes. I don't support Quackery since the one I intend going into has a lot of quacks.
I am just an animal rearer doing my business oo no vex and a vet aspirant.
We are channelling our anger at the wrong things. We should have blamed the Bad leadership we've had for years who refused to invest in science and rendered this people jobless.
Blame the school for syphoning funds and doing backyard admission.
Blame the leaders who went to schools for free and ate free food and had good hostels opress us.
NO VEX.

Sorry bro if I used the wrong world
I am just so angry when I see people playing with human lives in the name of MLS is carved out or new
Every professional should know his work
The slt guys are the worst
They keep saying rubbish because they have license and with connection some of them work in a diagnosing lab
They should just have Human sympathy and stop the quackery and stop blaming MLS for their misfortune
Anyway I wish you success in your admission pursuit
What school are you aspiring for

The5DME:
Frustrated people in their multitudes here in this thread.
Smh

What do you mean?

Zeeknow3245:

Guy I Just dey respect you oo.. Better go to the Lab and do your poop and urine analysis

Lol I can feel your pains
So you all quacks have been fighting just to analyze poop
Wow. I can see where the pains lies
We are comfortable analyzing them but I will just tell to leave the poop for us
We love the poop
Bunch of mediocre
You guys won't cease to amuse me
Imagine studying your mediocre course for good four years
At the end, you will be seen dragging poop
I just piri una failure

Zeeknow3245:

Guy I Just dey respect you oo.. Better go to the Lab and do your poop and urine analysis

Lol I can feel your pains
So you all quacks have been fighting just to analyze poop
Wow. I can see where the pains lies
We are comfortable analyzing them but I will just tell to leave the poop for us
We love the poop
Bunch of mediocre
You guys won't cease to amuse me
Imagine studying your mediocre course for good four years
At the end, you will be seen dragging poop
I just piri una failure

Zeeknow3245:

I am not even in science or wishing to go into the college of Medicine for now boss you know these.
Boss I wish you can read their Laws. Look at the lies they're peddling it is not fair bro.
I want you to imagine Dental technologist fighting dentist.

We are not technologist
We are scientist
And for your info MLS is not a younger brother to pathologists
For the laws you claim you saw, I don't know but it seems you checked nothing
Thank you

Zeeknow3245:

You can't deny the Fact that ASCP licences your kind abroad . I am following a Medical Laboratory Science:Hidden Heroes ; on Facebook and they don't act like this.
I wanted Med lab sometime last year because I was Ignorant.
You people have gone as far as saying you're the only licenced to import reagents in Nigeria and Laboratory equipment.
You went to the National Assembly that you want your own Post graduate Institute.
You people also said you want a Doctorate Degree (DMLS or DMLT).
You also claim that you want to man only the Laboratory only.
You guys are Histopathologic Tech not Histopathologist, Haematologic tech not Haematologist.
You people have so many court orders trying to undermine the Pathologist and other professions.
You people should stop this Nonsense. It will hunt your profession back in the future . Thanks to your mediocre leaders in your profession.

You just sat down comfortably and wrote trash
I would have loved to put some sense into you but your ignorance is first class
I will just advice you to get a way to study MLS and stop shiting around

samuelpeters:

That will be hard.
Nobody respects the Law in Nigeria.

Who cares if MLS is new or not. Yes! MLS is relatively new but that should make them ashamed. A new course wiped them out of all government Labs. They can only manage some 2 star Lab some where "with abeg". Because I know a standard Lab will Never want to stain their reputation by employing quacks that may misdiagnose patients.

Just graduate and move on. Your capacity and skill will speak for itself.

©️2021.

Thanks man. I am looking forward to resuming but I just don't feel comfortable with this guys hatred. I don't have much to say to them.So we move

samuelpeters:

That will be hard.
Nobody respects the Law in Nigeria.

Who cares if MLS is new or not. Yes! MLS is relatively new but that should make them ashamed. A new course wiped them out of all government Labs. They can only manage some 2 star Lab some where "with abeg". Because I know a standard Lab will Never want to stain their reputation by employing quacks that may misdiagnose patients.

Just graduate and move on. Your capacity and skill will speak for itself.

©️2021.

Thanks man. I am looking forward to resuming but I just don't feel comfortable with this guys hatred. I don't have much to say to them.So we move

Zeeknow3245:

If it was BCH and MCB you are doing igberaga for I go understand. But Pathologist? You know in the US they are given licences by ASCP. So just wail in your sifia pains

lol I can see you are so dumbed.
Being licensed by ASCP doesn't make it inferior rather it's their own way of licensing them
And for the pathologist,they are out of our labs for good
So you can kindly share your confusion here

Zeeknow3245:

Where was MLS carved out from?. Nigeria get wahala sef. Dem create Radiography but dem dey beef Radiologists. Dem create MLS dem dey beef Pathologist.
Disgruntled individual.

Stop saying rubbish
MLS have been in the UK and better developed countries who cares for the lives of their people
Nigeria are not carving out any medical courses rather they are following Health trend from developed countries
I don't have much to say to you Rather you have Google as your friend and stop coming on public forums to confuse yourself
Thank you.

Cptflint:


I have actually followed your argument.. For the sake of peace
If you are not licensed and certified by the professional bodies in field of medicine please you are not permitted to handle patients at all.. MCB/BCH can work as scientific officer in the hospital. And please don't equate them to MLS OR PATHOLOGIST OR PHARMACIST.

IF YOU WANT TO BE A MEDICAL PRACTITIONER PLEASE GET JAMB FORM AND APPLY OR BETTER, DIRECT ENTRY WILL BE YOUR BEST BET.. AND YOU START FROM YR 2 TO LEARN BASIC MEDICINE AND PROCEED TO HIGHER LEVEL.

Even basic medical science graduates don't compete or rob shoulders with medical professionals.. Please be guided. If your not licensed, don't handle any patient before you will get yourself in trouble. Or you will be arrested and prosecuted for quackery.

Please tell them.Jamb or Direct entry slots are available.They should stop trying to take short cuts because of money.Whoever wants to handle human samples should apply to any accredited college of medicine and get his or herself trained.Thanks for telling them the truth but they are too dumb to learn

samuelpeters:

What he's saying is normal.
Doctors also complain, pharmacists complain, Nurses complain too.
It's just an awareness.

That bill has been in the NASS since far back as 2010. Nothing will happen! It has always bounced back.
Our associations are not strong willed.

I don't have any problem with BCH/MCB working in the Laboratory provided they are trained and certified( that was the practice before). They should advocate for that. But I also see reasons why MLS is unwilling to embrace them. Almost all universities have BCH and MCB.


All my MLS friends are not even afraid of BCH/MCB because they know BCH/MCB are not even up to their technicians much less MLS.

Connections or not, in a standard establishment, BCH/MCB cannot work in a Medical Laboratory as a scientist. Some of you think they don't have other professionals in the Lab aside MLS.

©️2021.

I too don't have much problem with them.But they should stop those rubbish talks of saying MLS are new guys and should not be doing what they are trained for.Moreover our lives are involved,this guys are numerous and that makes it impossible for proper training of this guy,so they shouldn't be allowed to diagnose human being.They have a lot of branches which they can venture into.They should learn to respect the law and humanity at large

kalu61:


Since you know l can't work in a hospital laboratory, what's the point of your ranting.

Microbiologist and others will continue to work and learn from hospitals and laboratories across the country. It's about connection and skill.

Two of my lecturers own laboratory. Both Medical and research combined.

There is nothing you can do. Let me bubble you. A bill is already in National Assembly to make MCB practice with professionalization. The fight is still there.


l'm done with you.

Bye

You guys will never be allowed to man a medical laboratory no matter the bill.And for those your lecturers endangering the lives of Nigeria,the law will soon catch up to him and that connection will fail him.Thank you.

BIGPREEQ:
If you're complaining about your jobs being taken away from you, what will you say about the pharmacist whose job is being taken by auxiliary/registered nurses, pharmacologist, road side Chemist, patent drug dealers, anybody from any field including lawyers gann??
It all boils down to our various council for being redundant about fighting all this and upholding the profession with high esteem

Because the councils of medical sciences are not so active every churned out graduate wants to man the hospital laboratory.That is quackery and when we try to them,they keep spitting trash. Those trained in the college of medicine alone should be allowed to control anything medicine.They can't even try this nonsense outside Nigeria.Not even in Ghana

BIGPREEQ:
Lol, OP I share your sentiment. But you should blame your hospital MDs, Laboratory HOD and employers in general for always wanting to cut cost by employing other personnels of different fields in the laboratory simply because they take lesser pay.
Working in the hospital laboratory as a non MLScientist I can tell you that the practical aspect of their work is very easy and can be done by any trained personnel who never went to medical school, provided he/she has basic medical knowledge. You know I'm saying the truth
So instead of ranting on Nairaland, you should hold your employers and your council for being docile in implementing their laws because there are laws that forbids other field from being in the lab

Please say what you know.How can you say the practical aspects of MLS is simple and can be done by any trained professional.That is quackery and those who keep doing that,the law will cut up to them soon

Zeeknow3245:

Boss you remember this same attitude of hate. The guy is a disgruntled lab Scientist.
When did MLS start sef? They are fighting everybody
*Pathologist the head
*Biochemists
*Microbiologist
*SLT

no one is hating here rather you are the disgruntled lab scientist here
To set you straight,none of those aforementioned can lace MLS when it comes to laboratory medicine.So I will just advice you to take your pain ass out of here.As far laboratory medicine is concerned,Mls can not be under anyone.Not even the lost pathologist to the frames quacks like BCH or MCB

samuelpeters:

Jeez!
No punctuation!, No paragraph!
What kind of a graduate are you.

Please edit this post and make it presentable.

©️2021.

I wrote it late so I couldn't organise it properly.When I am less busy, I will edit it
Thanks

kalu61:
Are you a graduate?

If yes, you are a disgrace to Nigerian graduates.


Just to compose your thought in simple English is very difficult for you to do. Now, imagine the type of MLS you are.

An average primary 6 pupils will do far better.

Tufiakwa.

you are really dumb to say this. I wrote my waec and neco myself and i can beat my chest to tell you that I wrote my essay in English Language myself.Moreover I don't have much to say to you since you believe someone can graduate without knowing the meaning of punctuation.Tweh

kalu61:
Stop ranting.

Nigeria has a fail education system that churn out relatively few useful graduates from all field.

You don't threaten Microbiologist or Biochemist to run away from hospitals because you can't secure a place in the hospital environment.

I'm a microbiologist, did my I.T in laboratory settings. After service year, l did work in Medical laboratory until l left for my second degree where l worked in University Molecular Laboratory as a contract staff.

ls one thing is to have knowledge of the theory and it's another to have the practical knowledge. Nigerian Universities produce theories of a graduates without practical including you that is ranting.

Countries are producing Covid 19 vaccines and drugs, where are the microbiologist, the biochemist and the so called MLS. How equip are the school laboratories where all these students are produced. Student that has never focused a sample under the microscope.

At least l can handle molecular equipments, extract DNA and amplify them. l can carry out virtually all basic laboratory tests in an average Nigeria laboratories. You think l got these skills by mere theories?

Look, l don't know how old you are but l will advice you to be proactive and diplomatic in your approach.

I don't know where you get the notion that MLS are not trained well but let me assert it, you can come back to work in the hospital laboratory again.nonsense

there have been a lot of chaos and hatred when it comes to laboratory medicine especially when alot of scientists claim they are all trained to man the laboratory this is the bitter truth anyone who wants to work in the hospital laboratory should pick up a jamb form or a d.e form the so called microbiologist and biochemist are all ranting in different platforms that the mlscn are bitten more than they can chew let me take it from a competition wise aspect in the various departments of microbiology and biochemistry keeps churning out thousands of graduands every year without they pour a lot of graduands from all the universities in the country at the end 80% of them wants to work in the hospital and you expect mlscientist to fold hands and see you people ruin their careers because of improper planning from your failed council nooooooo and never the mlscn are checking the number of graduands they churn out everywhere they have quota for each accredited schools but you guys are admitted in thousands and you all are churned out as graduates at the end you all wants to work in the few hospital laboratory in the country the MLS guys are just guarding their territory same way doctors are having a firm hold to their profession also same thing goes to those lazy SLT guys who confused themselves as MLS when they start offering small biochemistry and microbiology course they will claim to know more than the MLS guys they will be like we can work anywhere since you guys can work anywhere why are you all killing yourselves for the hospital laboratory while not take that your versatility to other sectors and prove your worth even the doctors are seeing the laboratory as a place of rest thanks to God you guys have been shown the door every low living quacks wants to control the hospital laboratory if you want to study microbiology or biochemistry or SLT do so but don't dream of the hospital laboratory if you wanna work in the hospital laboratory you know the process no short cuts and for those posing as MLS one day the law will catch up to you the college of medicine is meant to train health professionals and any professional not trained in the college should stop dreaming of the hospital talking much of the lab you all have termed MLS as a shallow restricting course we accept but why is it that at the end of your graduation you wanna follow the shallow path as far the hospital laboratory is concerned MLS will forever be in charge not even doctors can dare come close so I will advise you all who see the hospital laboratory as a resting place to follow the process to become mlscientist else stay away from it and stop beefing

johnsonm2g:
Wait! You mean to say you were admitted into 300 level, how come?

I said I am a fresher 100l to resume February

hahaha please leave medical laboratory scientist out of your failures like you guys always teased you said medical laboratory scientist are meant for only the hospitals lol but the so called biochemist and microbiologist are all good in blaming medical laboratory scientist for their failures thank God they drove you out of the hospitals this is the time you guys have to show to the world you are better than medical laboratory scientist

opera1:

300L MLS

ok

Azidol:

You are wrong. No date has been stated by JAMB

the date is fixed 17

Alexaonfleek:
Congrats. MLS is a very good course. Just be prepared and study hard.

thanks for the advice

Zeeknow3245:

Congrats bro. If it is Lucrative that you're looking for,it is up to you to make it happen. Is it good?Yes. I know there's a lot of chemistry in the course and God will see you through. Get ready to see pee,blood,poop,Necrotic flesh,sputum,semen and a lot of things. God speed!!

thanks man

opera1:

Congratulations!!! I rep AAU too

are you admitted I mean your level

hi guys I am a fresher already admitted Sha into AAU MLS nice meeting you people waiting for resumption next year

hi guys I am a fresher into MLS AAU

hi guys I just got admitted into MLS in AAU hope the course is good and lucrative

ucheuzor1:
Hey guys, please I'll like to know if jamb have started registration or any possible future start date. Timely response will be highly appreciated.

jamb registration starts 13th of January

oyetunjibaba:


Guy!! Make i no lie you eeeh!
Anything you post no dey make sense, you're so full of yourself, kai.... U never even gain admission, you're even confused on which course to choose. Na so so jump from med to nursing,from nursing to med lab,now from med lab to vet lab....Guy! How far now. You no dey encourage person even if what you re saying is true there is a way u address it now! Because sey u no gain admission to a better course no mean sey another person no go fit get ham. Atleast dey reason before u type now. Biko.... I no dey fight u, i dey try borrow u small sense.

the guy is just clueless maybe he should go for AAU Next time maybe they might give him botany

oyetunjibaba:


Guy!! Make i no lie you eeeh!
Anything you post no dey make sense, you're so full of yourself, kai.... U never even gain admission, you're even confused on which course to choose. Na so so jump from med to nursing,from nursing to med lab,now from med lab to vet lab....Guy! How far now. You no dey encourage person even if what you re saying is true there is a way u address it now! Because sey u no gain admission to a better course no mean sey another person no go fit get ham. Atleast dey reason before u type now. Biko.... I no dey fight u, i dey try borrow u small sense.

the guy is just clueless maybe he should go for AAU Next time maybe they might give him botany

Zeeknow3245:

You see why Nigeria peddle fake news. You didn't read what I initially wrote. I never said the course was poor but the school mind.
"AAU is poor in MLS"

as if you made AAU poor

Zeeknow3245:

You see why Nigeria peddle fake news. You didn't read what I initially wrote. I never said the course was poor but the school mind.
"AAU is poor in MLS"

as if you made AAU poor