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Well if they don't score against Tahiti then you should know that definitely there is a problem. But again scoring against Tahiti shouldn't be the yardstick now. A team that conceded 16 goals in 2 matches?

When they carry the cup. . .then we can all take back our words, until then there are no "good" strikers in that team.

PS: I want to make it clear that Siasia is NOT a bad coach. No one ever said he is/was.

Thank You my Heavenly Father,
It's a beautiful day.
Thank You for my son,
He brightens my day.

Jamix ft 9ice, Terry G & M .I- Omo Naija!

Amin o! Ifeleke, bawo ni?

Mo ki gbogbo ile oo!

Congrats to her.

Krayola:
Dagrin baba!!!! I too gbadun this guy.

Thats what i call NAIJA RAP!!! No be all these clowns wey go yankee for 2-3 years come dey feel like akata.

you don kolo no be small. 
DaGrin jo ooooooooooooooooooooooo!

@ofakasibe, no be mumbai, india you dey?

Semid4lyfe, I dey feel you o jare but I guess folks (including myself) are only responding to the topic:
Sauce vs M.I

But if you ask me, DaGrin is on another level. . ."Ghetto Dreams" mehn. . .on banging si mi lee ti!

tubabie:
FBS real nice job you doing here

Thanks tubabie. .

And DaGRIN!

Highlights here:
http://www.fifa.com/u20worldcup/video/videolist.html

[quote author=pres-elect link=topic=327288.msg4636176#msg4636176 date=1254256405]so your idea of racism is only on political parties? [/quote]Of course not but that only proves and shows how deep racism is in some countries.
If you say Nigeria is the most racist country you've ever been to yet you cannot find this at the top level. . .and there are obviously no national agenda to drive away foreigners unlike in most other countries. What does that tell you?

novaman:
suddenly some people see Siasia as a bad coach, funny the way people think in this country, I have watch almost all tha matches in the tournament and I can state categorically that the Flying Eagles are one of the most composed team, considering that fact that the coach was assigned to the team barely 3months ago

You are very wrong. No one has said on this forum that Siasia is a BAD coach. Search the whole thread and post if you find one. What we are saying is that some of his gambles did NOT pay off.
Forget composed football for if there is nothing to show for it then you are only blowing HOT AIR. i.e it means NUFFING!
You mentioned 3 months? How many months did the class of 2005 train together. We all heard of how he (Siasia) was running up and down begging for money etc in order for his boys to train. Didn't they perform well?
That was his finest moment as a coach till date. I have mentioned this many times of this thread that Siasia is the best coach in Nigeria at this moment. That is a FACT!

Even Siasia himself stated it that his strikers were asleep and he also blamed the ref.
Now if a coach can come out and say his strikers were asleep what does that tell you?

As they stand:

Y'all can continue smoking expired garri for all I care. If you want to tell me that the two refs in our two matches were great then that is your business.

It beats me why some of you just decide to ignore part of my posts. Yes the refs were bad. as bad as they get but I also mentioned that our players performed well below zero. . .did y'all miss that? 

Dayokanunazi, do yourself a favor, you can jump right into the river. . .river bayernmunichshutlzbuzzoff if I may suggest.

Asha80, you and I know that it ain't that simple. Take it or leave it. I'm not here to argue. In fact wasn't even planning to visit NL. 

Meanwhile. . .Let me attend to those who came here for genuine stuff.

Marymos:
@FBS
You are doing a wonderful job.Can we get the latest table to know the position of all the teams?

Thank you o jare Marymos. This is for you.

Rest In Peace Best Ogedengbe!

One can easily assume that you simply support whoever is winning/playing well at the moment. 

one mopol:
Monday James and Ambrose efe are two known top performing defenders. When Siasia drafted chibuzor okoronkwo from the midlfield( a  right footed player)  to man the left full back, ordinarily it looked weird. But in the end we saw that he did the job even better than the real defenders. Besides lets not forget that the coaches would have watched him play in the central defence before they exposed him(Obiora nwakwo) to a full match. Yes sometimes somethings go well during training sessions but the real match response fall short. The coach recognised this and re-drafted him to his normal position. The question is, has the defense really faired better after placing the real defenders in their position?. That in itself is a debate for another time.

Santon plays left back for Inter and he is doing well (though sometimes make mistakes but that is expected. It is normal). While I admit to the highlighted (for the benefit of doubt), will you be kind enough to admit also that the gamble to play Nwankwo as a defender did not pay off? More annoying is the fact that there was no reason to.
Has the defense done better, technically yes ( they were not as shaky as in the match with Venezuela) but obviously no because they let in two goals against Spain. The first was almost a replica of the goal in our first match but that penalty was a soft one to say the least. We played a better match but could not score. In the words of Siasia "If you don't score goals, you can't win matches".

one mopol:
I am not sure this is exactly true, however I will have to re-watch the matches to make further comments on this. But like I said earlier , BARCA does not shoot from long range and they are UCL champions.

For goodness sake, we are NOT Barca and neither are we Chelsea. This is a national team and you will agree that the approach is and should be DIFFERENT! You have 8 players in Barca who can play and pass to each other with their eyes closed. Its automated if you ask me. Playing in national competitions is a different ball game. Just like the UCL is different from league matches. Find another excuse please!

one mopol:
While it is nice to have , I have stated earlier that even in our glory days USA94 and ATLANTA96 we did not have a very good set piece specialist. But that did not hinder the team from attaining good results.

Even before 1994 - Christopher Ohenhen. And in our glory days- Okocha! should I go on! What are you talking about? If he is not a dead ball specialist, then I wonder who is moreover even if we never had then, is that an excuse not to have at least 2 players with such abilities in our squad now?

one mopol:
From a personal point of view I have not found any  of the players (may be  except haruna) in the team that lack hunger.Sincerely thats my take. If this hunger has translated into the needed result in  our matches so far  is another question all together. Here I see psychology being the problem and not skill, the pressure of possible exit is getting the better of the boys.

For Ighalo we must understand that the team selection has been made largely on the strength of training sessions and a few low-key tune up matches.

Low key shekini? In the words of Siasia" “We have confidence and we have the players to do us proud. The training camps in Qatar and Spain have helped the team greatly and we are heading to Egypt believing we can conquer,” said Siasia, a former World Cup star."

one mopol:
The coach will not be wrong to base his judgement of the players on this few tests. Yes we have seen cases where second-fiddle players in training sessions become heros. Messi started the 2005 U-20 as a sub for argentina. I am sure IGHALO would have greatly impressed. That lone strike against venezuela is world class. A good foreign coach will just use that to judge that he his a material that can be worked upon.
I am however suprised that I am the only one that knows that he was picked by the players in an open election between him and Chima uchechi.

Let me explain. Playing for your club is one thing, it is another level to play for your country. It is not accepted that in a country of 140 million (I'm beginning to doubt that figure) these are the best 22 players we could get?
These players should be more than grateful that they are part of the chosen few. It is an opportunity of a life time. Playing for your country is as good as going to war and fighting for your country. You fight till the end. You sweat and play football like your life depended on it. Forgive me but I'm yet to see such passion in any of our players. . .well, save a few and NO Ighalo is NOT one of them. 
There is a reason why he Siasia is coach and that reason is because we know he is good (he did wonders with the class of 2005) but it's not hard to explain what is going on now. There are no strikers in the team. Even he attested to this.

There is a way out and by all means they should spank Tahiti 20-0 and go ahead in this competition, any thing short of that will be considered a failure.

One of the greatest displays of ALL times. This is one of the best and greatest performance you will ever see by any team in the world.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5LIGg1PkkU[/flash]

This is coming from Siasia himself. It does somehow echoes my earlier statements.

Siasia blames strikers, ref for loss

Flying Eagles coach Samson Siasia turned on his strikers after the team lost their second game on the bounce at the Fifa Under-20 World Cup in Egypt.

The Nigerians were beaten 2-0 by Spain despite, once again, dominating their opponents and Siasia said it was down to his forwards to put away the numerous opportunities the team created.

"I believed we had more chances in the first half but I don't know why our strikers always go to sleep. I don't really know how many chances we need to score a goal.

"It is so sad that we have strikers that can't even score goals. If you don't score goals, you can't win any match," the former Nigeria international lamented.

Siasia's was equally unhappy to see his team concede a soft penalty and another player walk off with a red card for the second consecutive game, especially when a Spanish player got off with only a yellow card for a similar offence as that which got Haruna Lukman sent off in the opening game, and he did not spare the referee.

"I don't know what is going on may be the referees don't want us to go to the next round of the competition. It was obvious that the penalty given to the Spanish team was not a penalty. It is just ridiculous."

Nigeria have a slim chance of advancing as best losers if they beat group whipping boys Tahiti, and results from elsewhere go their way.

http://www.kickoff.com/static/news/article.php?id=11312

Below is also a comment from the same website.

It's a pity that you chose those same strikers. You are the coach and you must have watched them before selecting them. These your strikers, have they ever scored a goal before? I don't even think we can get even half a goal past Tahiti. It's all over for this team

IFELEKE:
alaafia naa ni mo wa oo, o kan je 'pe inu mi o dun pelu nkan ti awon omo siasia yen gba lana pataki julo pelu nkan ti ref. yen se.

Awon boys yen wa annoying gan. I mean won ni to up to 20 chances amon boolu ko, ko fe wo inu net.
We all expected a better performance from Siasia and his boys. Mo hope wi pe a si le qualify.

hehehe.

O rii so Orilee9ice.
Hereby the People of NL vs Chamotes: Oro Oyan nla ati taya moto VW Polo.

[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=310305.msg4632597#msg4632597 date=1254224484]Why should he be booed?

I woulda done the same if i were Adebayor.
Arsenal fans are too bitter. I remember some useless Nigerian GAYnners attacking him in Lagos Airport some months ago.[/quote]Very correct. The very guy in question was talking like he owned the player (Ade). I mean what sort of nonsense is that?
Why should you boo your own player constantly! The key word, constantly!

But really, why are you guys still on Ade's case? He ain't playing for arse-anal no more. Quit the hating.

Orilee9ice:
cHAMO, now i am confused, sebi o ni o waa on strike nigba ti omo naa so pe oun fe fi oko e sere, ki lo de ti ofe fi'di e sere nisinyi

ogbeni dee dee o, there is more there ti o so fun waa o,

O se ti o be re because emi na wonder.

IFELEKE:
FBS,
Daada ni mo wa joo padi mi, bawo ni? se alaafia lo wa? abobo(our baby) wa nko? se o n toju e daada?

O se ore mi. Alaafia ni mo wa, iwo nko? Adupe ni owo Olorun, baby is doing fine.

one mopol:
I am sorry about that. I have placed them correctly now. I think you can read me better now.

Yep. Thanks for that.
Did you see my response to your previous post?

tubabie:
Mo wa alright, ose Mi o gbagbe Young Chelsea goon wa o

O ni wipe ki n ki gbogbo yin. Don't worry very soon he will start posting too.

chamotex:
Mejeji

VW POLO. . . . mo fe ta gan sef.

O mean wi pe o fe ta oyan ati taya moto or what?

Orilee9ice:
@FBS.u dey funny sha!! .anywayz no shaking fun gbogbo awa bigz boyz

Ma dami lohun ore. . .Mo gan gbadun tiredi yi ni jare.  

chamotex:
Ese modupe o
Jeje mi ni mo wa o ti omo kan ni ohun fe fi oko sere
Mo de so fun wipe mo wa on strike _{as per ASUU level}.

Mo lo si ibi moto mi nisin yi, taya moto mi ti jo but mo wa sure pe omo oloyan nla yen ni o se ise na.
~Mo ma deal pelu e.  

     
But why are you boning nah? Because of the oyan nla or because of your taya mooto?  

mukina2:
please is cashley's leg broken forever?

something you would have loved to see abi? shameless girl!  

Eastbay:
FBS,
I knew sooner or later that name would show up!
Wht's up dude?

Eastbay, padi mi, I, dey oooh! how now? How madam or are you guys still on honeymoon?

Orilee9ice:
@ FBS, Iyawo mi mo awon Admirers MI NOW, ohun lo shi fans club fun won sef, but o moo pe ohun ni numba one lojo kojo, awon to kun kan sere ni, (MY FRIENDS ARE MY ADMIRERS, ) ko si boju boju ni be o, we wont see fire in di welli o.amen!

@ Orilee9ice, well ti iyawo e o ba mind then by all means no shaking.

Tubabie, ki lon se le? how are you re?

Not only that, the crowd just dey rap along! They know the lyrics to his tracks. Certainly, it doesn't get better than that. Does it?

The way you place quote tags got me off track but I will try to answer as much as I can.

-Yes sure no crime in playing a MF as a defender but why do that when you have a defender to use?
- Rabiu did what no one could have done (well aside, Obiora Nwankwo) and I mean, defense splitting passes. He has vision and you cannot deny that. Ok he wasn't fully fit if that is your excuse for Siasia, its ok.
- Ighalo had only one shot at goal (against Venezuela) and you think that is good enough for a striker ? Maybe even at my age I can still play for the national team then?
- In our two games, only two strikes from distance (on target). That of Aluko (against Spain) and Igahlo. Others (about 20 of them) went to stand 520! You think that is good enough?
- Haruna took only one freekick, which was really good but was saved by the keeper but unluckily he got a red. Are you now saying that No Haruna no free kick for Naija again? There are about 20+ players in that team for goodness sake.
- Yes France came back in 2006 (how did I miss that? my bad) but what was the end result? And it wasn't like they even played well then. Can you tell me what's going on with them now? Another example is Argentina, guess we don't have to discuss that, right?
- Ighalo may have been chosen by his teamates to be their captain (at least according to you and I will take your word for it) but tell me sincerely, is he good enough to be a captain? I would have thought, Siasia can do better than that.
- Are you saying that Ighalo is showing the hunger and passion you talked about?

Again, don't get me wrong about Siasia and his abilities but that is not also to say that this is the best 11 we have in our country. If Chrisantus suddenly becomes a girl , are you saying there are no more or better strikers that we currently have in our line-up?