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yeahh:
The UN was not created because the church failed
The church is not obliged to help but is still the biggest organisation providing charity all ober the world i.e samaritans purse salvation international, the salvation army etc. because they are not so pronounced in Nigeria doesn't mean otherwise. Meanwhile the prophet is doing a good job

guy if the church didn't fail there won't be world war 1, don't forget world war one started in Europe this were supposed Christians back then.

analize701:
Then why are you people fighting Tithing alone and not offerings and circumcision? Can't you see there's something satan is after?

if the preachers were offering burnt sacrifices we would talk. one thing about Christianity is that the word is used to reproof and teach, nobody is greater than the word. even Paul corrected Peter once.

analize701:
Where you dey work, na dere you go.chop.
Go your ways: behold, I send you forth as lambs among wolves.
Luke:10:3
Go your ways: behold, I send you forth as lambs among wolves.
Luke:10:3

And into whatsoever house ye enter, first say, Peace be to this house.
Luke:10:5

And if the son of peace be there, your peace shall rest upon it: if not, it shall turn to you again.
Luke:10:6
And in the same house remain, eating and drinking such things as they give: for the labourer is worthy of his hire. Go not from house to house.
Luke:10:7
And into whatsoever city ye enter, and they receive you, eat such things as are set before you:
Luke:10:8

You people are attacking Pastors for being taken care of by members, una see scriptures?

And he said unto them, When I sent you without purse, and scrip, and shoes, lacked ye any thing? And they said, Nothing.
Luke:22:35

IT IS MY DUTY TO CARE FOR MY PASTOR.

guy this is not tithe this is free will offering don't mix it up we are talking about tithe and the fact that a pastor decided to threaten someone if he did not pay and moreover this offering was divided between the whole church so that none lack. Acts 4:32-35, where no one owned anything and everyone shared the offering equally, both the disciples and the believers?

but today your pastor drives a car worth millions, his kids are all schooling abroad, etc etc

analize701:
This brother eh.

Who goeth a warfare any time at his own charges? who planteth a vineyard, and eateth not of the fruit thereof? or who feedeth a flock, and eateth not of the milk of the flock?
1 Corinthians:9:7
If we have sown unto you spiritual things, is it a great thing if we shall reap your carnal things?
1 Corinthians:9:11

If others be partakers of this power over you, are not we rather? Nevertheless we have not used this power; but suffer all things, lest we should hinder the gospel of Christ.
1 Corinthians:9:12

Meaning, people took care of pastors as obligations.

Do ye not know that they which minister about holy things live of the things of the temple? and they which wait at the altar are partakers with the altar?

1 Corinthians:9:13

Even so hath the Lord ordained that they which preach the gospel should live of the gospel.
1 Corinthians:9:14

But I have used none of these things: neither have I written these things, that it should be so done unto me: for it were better for me to die, than that any man should make my glorying void.
1 Corinthians:9:15

Paul did not use his privilege not becos he was not entitled to them.

Peter used his fully.

Go and read 1Cor from 1 down.

The first part of this passage refers to the general principle that the priests who were engaged in the Temple services were supported from the various offerings which were brought there, and the second clause more definitely alludes to the particular fact that when a sacrifice was offered on the altar, the sacrificing priests, as well as the altar, had a share of the animal. (See Leviticus 6:16 ; Leviticus 6:26 ; Leviticus 7:6 ;

but my question is this when does this tithing stop.


"Are you aware that the wise men in the land advised Moses that the people should stop bringing offering as soon as they had enough, and Moses issued a commandment to this effect? Exodus 36 vs 5-6

analize701:
Beware of dogs, beware of evil workers, beware of the concision.
Philippians:3:2

Beware of those who change the truth of God to lies.

Where did you see it written that as Christians we can stay home and not go to church ?

All these agents of Satan parading as Christians

Bros the gathering of Christians is the church, it's us it's not any building with AC and million dollar musical equipment.

analize701:
Peter became a Fisher of Men, no more Fisher of Fish when he met Jesus. The last time he tried going back to fish was when they were bored waiting for the Holy Ghost. He said, i go a fishing, others said, i come too. Again the whole night they caught nothing, Jesus appeared (This time He had already resurrected o), and told Peter to cast his net just like when they first met, Peter did and caught a great number, by the River bank there Jesus made a fire, after wards they ate some roasted fish and bread, Jesus called Peter into Ministry and left.

After that, Peter never went back to fishing.

John 21: 1-17

hahahaha analize701 dey attack me everywhere. so what about the Luke 5 vs 3 you guys are making it look like the disciples depended on the money that Judas was holding stop deceiving yourselves, that money Judas was holding was given to the poor.

Peter had a wife and a mother to take care of and had kids (maybe) he didn't depend on preaching or free will offering. he didn't collect tithe don't forget that.

PaChukwudi44:
This line is stale!! Circumcision and burnt offerings also predated the law

this is true but they aren't following burnt offerings, and Paul killed that circumcision issue

analize701:
I wish i can take you on a ride from the old prophets who prophet about the state of the nation of Israel, before, during and after the birth of Jesus the events which will unfold.

Prophecies states that, when the Messiah is killed, sacrifices shall cease, because their covenant shall become obsolete. Their Temple where all these sacrifices are taken and done, shall be destroyed to keep them from continuing with the sacrifices, and it shall be so until the New Covenant which is the Church Age comes to an end, then the Temple shall be rebuilt, but this will be when the Antichrist will be ruling.

Pls go and read your Bible and stop depending on people who know less.

I don't have the time to teach you eschatology this evening.

guy let me tell you I know all this things, so I will be the wrong person for you to lecture on these. so when the temple is built then the tithe will begin isn't it so?

then why are you paying tithes?

the reason why united Nations was created was because the church failed a long time ago.

what TB Joshua is doing is great, others will come and say that they use to do but they don't announce it.

meanwhile there's no record of them doing anything.

analize701:
How many times shd i answer this?

you haven't answered it, don't forget that the Jews do not believe that Jesus is the son f God so they are mandated to pay tithe, and they keep the Mosaic Law more than Christians. I know you've been checking google but couldn't find it.

analize701:
The question you shd have asked is, Who was Melchizedek?

no the question I'm asking is why do jews who are the keepers of the law not paying tithes.

snipesdam:
So short sighted. You're looking for where catholic church is written. SMH

When we bow whom do we bow down to? Since we worship idol what's the name of our God. Metchew

Am not here to debate with you anyway. I just dropped a fact tho. The catholic church is an institution of the Holy Eucharistic.

guy as per the bolded hahahaha now let me explain, if you use was or wood to build an image and call that image Jesus or Mary and you bow to it what does that mean?

if you have an alter with a picture that you name as Mary and pray to that picture what does it mean?

what do they call that action, is it idolatry or not

Desyner:
The book of Mathew, Mark, Luke, and John are focused on Jesus time one earth as experienced by his various disciples. As such it contains repetition of some accounts. Stop showing your confusion to the world Sir.

you asked me if Peter was still fishing when he met Jesus and I showed you and you shifted the Goal post now let me explain the first verse was when Jesus was about to preach, the second was after Jesus died. so where is the repetition. Are you still confused.

I've noticed how you explained and quoted from the Bible but your tithing brethren will come here and attack you without quoting any portion of the bible

the Catholic Church is not mentioned in the Bible, when Paul was writing letters to churches, secondly Peter wasn't sent to the gentiles so there's nowhere he created the Catholic Church like you people claim. thirdly you guys worship idols something that God detested. that you should not bow Down to any graven image other than him whether in heaven or on Earth.

tomorrow is Sunday when you go to church your preacher or father will not quote the Bible quote me anywhere.

Desyner:
Was peter still fishing after joining Jesus ? Your confusion na heavy duty.

you are the one whose confused here LUKE 5 vs 3 shows that Peter had a boat that was sustaining him

"quote" And he entered into one of the ships, which was Simon's, and prayed him that he would thrust out a little from the land. And he sat down and taught the people out of the ship. After Jesus' died Peter was still running things.

JOHN 21 vs 3 "quote"Simon Peter saith unto them, I go a fishing. They say unto him, We also go with thee. They went forth, and entered into a ship immediately; and that night they caught nothing. King James Version (KJV)

I hope you read this from your Bible and see who is confused. Daddy freeze has made me realize that some people are only Christians in name.

analize701 you keep talking about Melchizedek and Jacob giving tithe, is there anywhere God commanded Abraham to pay tithe?

analize701:
Jesus did not take Tithe when he was alive because He was not High Priest until he died.

But as Head of the Church now, He does.

Yes i am paying Tithe to Christ. Hebrew 13:15 says Lets us now continually offer our sacrifices to God through Jesus our eternal High Priest.

In the Old Covenant, sacrifices were offered to God through his earthly human priests.

Hebrews 13:15 King James Version (KJV)
15 By him therefore let us offer the sacrifice of praise to God continually, that is, the fruit of our lips giving thanks to his name.

King James Version (KJV)

so where is the tithe there stop quoting half truths to suit your narrative, have you seen how hard it is to defend tithing.

Desyner:
add Winners Chapel(Living Faith) to you scam list.
They don't force you to pay tithe there. I have heard this countless times from Oyedepo and other pastors. That If you(a worshiper) thinks God work will stop as a result of you withholding your seeds, try witholding it.
Stop spreading falsehood guy.

all the apostles I. the Bible had a job Peter was a fishermen, Paul was a tent mender which was a very good job by then. read 1st Thessalonians 4vs11.

so which work does your pastor do?
who does he pay tithe to, is it God?
the weekly returns goes to whose account, is it God's account?

lalasticlala mynd44 oam4j

why don't they challenge him to a debate

what is wrong with this people, someone uses the Bible to show you that you have scammed your followers and next thing you start insulting him without using that same Bible to prove him wrong.

so if Jesus is the high priest which I believe too, how come Christians never paid tithe after his death to his disciples.

I know you think the church is being attacked but have you opened your Bible to check if what the tithe critics are saying is right?

spongeisback:
According to the Rabbis, the laws of tithing only apply to the land of Israel, and farmers in the Diaspora have no obligation to give tithes. the full tithing laws apply only when the majority of Jews live in the land of Israel and since, in the absence of the purification rites of the red heifer, everyone today suffers from corpse contamination, the tithe is inoperative in any event. Moreover the purpose of tithing, for the upkeep of the priests and Levites, has no meaning nowadays. The present practice in the State of Israel is to have only a token separation of the tithes.

Nevertheless, many observant Jews today do donate a tenth of their annual income to charity. This is known as maaser kesafim, ‘the money tithe’ or ‘wealth tax.’
This is the reason they don't tithe not the blah blah blah the other one wrote.

thank you sir.

analize701:
Yes. This is the Dispensation of the Church, the Gentile's Age. And, Christ is the Eternal Priest over seeing this New Covenant. Every High Priest must do what the High Priests Do

Melchizedek was a High Priest, He took Tithe. Levi was a High Priest, he took Tithe, why should Jesus our High Priest not take Tithe from us?

but why, Jesus did not collect any tithe, why is he taking tithe now.
so ARE YOU PAYING TITHE TO GOD?

secondly Levite I, not one person Levites were descendants of Levi, they had no possessions, they were well known you could see them on the streets and give them your tithes, their main jobs were to work in the temple and I'm sure not all the descendants work on the temple.

analize701:
Yes. This is the Dispensation of the Church, the Gentile's Age. And, Christ is the Eternal Priest over seeing this New Covenant. Every High Priest must do what the High Priests Do

Melchizedek was a High Priest, He took Tithe. Levi was a High Priest, he took Tithe, why should Jesus our High Priest not take Tithe from us?

but why, Jesus did not collect any tithe, why is he taking tithe now.
so ARE YOU PAYING TITHE TO GOD

anigbajumo:
Forget about Atiku wins any geo political region in the north,it will never happens. Just watch nd see,Atiku won't av 30% votes in SW.He can gat 65% in SE nd SS but other region, don't b deceived.....

why do you keep pushing Atiku towards the south East, did the south East tell you they would vote come 2019…?

Martinez19:
Olodo, Bobby Fischer is my chess idol, I have read and watched tons of clips of him. He was a christian with the worldwide church of God, he later left due to unfulfilled prophecies around 1977 and became an atheist. In his own words, he said all religious books are bunks, he also said he agrees that religion dulls the senses.

you didn't address the fact that I said a Catholic priest ministered at his funeral or the fact that his wife was a devote Buddhist.

Guy I've been a chess player myself, I've been following Petrosian due to his defense and Anand too. I've been playing chess for a long time now.

Jehovah's witnesses.

analize701:
Because the covenant under which they operate now is obsolete. The Covenant have been shifted to the eternal Covenant according to the Order of Melchizedek with Jesus Christ as the eternal high priest on top.

I understand you, so if the covenant has been shifted, does it mean it's Christians that are supposed to pay tithe not Jews?

2019 will shock you guys, you people will be waiting for results from SS and SE and you won't see, no Election in that area again, the people talking about Elections are not even from those areas, what Happened in Anambra is a taste of what to come.