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Igboid:
You don't still get it. Wike never betrayed Ndiigbo.
He is a typical Ikwerre man and they are Igbophobic by default.
Wike remained true to his Ikwerre self. Its not his fault that some of you refused to analyze him and his people better.
You keep trusting blindly then you come back shouting betrayal. How long will this continue?

I have had contacts with a good number of Ikwerres and I understand what you're saying. The new generation of Ndigbo need to get a feel of Ndikwerre and Wike has shown everyone today. No Ikwerre group has shown any displeasure at what that ugly event so we now understand better. It's the best form of clearing doubts. You see, it's not like we don't see their Igbophobia but we do think that some of them who hate such things might gain the upper hand and change the narrative in our time but alas Wike's action and the sharp silence has cemented the narrative. Now, we don't care what the others think. We have a current template to use in our engagements. Unlike before, Wike is now seeing double. When you murder sleep, how then can you have rest? This is a small battle. The bigger one is coming from up there. The Ikwerres themselves will see the level of their foolishness as at the time.
I do not think there are people who practise ostracism more than Ndigbo. Wike might just have started a huge one. No single regret supporting him as at the time. We thought he was a brother.

Sufferingboy:
Igbos and their wahala .I am ika from owa-oyibu.We ikas in all our clans prefer to live alone,we are not igbos.But there are some igbos who settle in our land and we welcome them,but today they are now ika.We don't hate igbos.But just leaves us alone.We are still fighting to claim our land carved into edo by ogbemudia(one of our betrayal son,who choose to claim his mother side(benin)).
Okowa is my brother from owa-alero.He just playing politics,by claiming igbo.Even our obi of owa is now claiming igbo identity for political reasons.We know okowa family lineage and obi of owa family lineage,them just dey play politics.
The only way we can join biafra is when you respect and see us a tribe and neighbour and total resource control.
Today,we ikas are suffery what fulani and yerobas did to us(allocating oil wells in our land to their people) So kanu and his boys should stop insulting us or trying to please us.We don't have oil that will be given to togo for free.I don't hate igbos but respect others and have peace.

This is very fair of you. This is how it should be instead of insulting others. We all should be proud of our ancestry. Everyone will control his resources.

Igboid:
I remember when I warned Ndiigbo about Wike and Ikwerre Igbophobia in 2017 and why we shouldn't be supporting Wike or any Ikwerre man.

I made it obvious that I Belong to multiple Ikwerre forums and that the type of Igbophobia I witnessed there, I have never witnessed it anywhere else. If those people have nuke access, they will nuke Igboland without batting eyelid.

I warned against IPOB romance with Wike. I watched in AIT 2017 during Rivers state 50yrs anniversary where Wike was thanking Gowon for saving Rivers people from Igbos. I tried to warn IPOB, they all called me Afonja. Now we know what's up.

You lots can never analyze things, everything is all about raw emotions. No strategic thinking. Today many IPOB are still embracing Ikwerres and Amaechi Rotimi.

https://www.nairaland.com/4232285/wike-secondus-vs-yoruba-pdp

Well, I will remain the voice in the wilderness speaking and shouting unpopular sense!

Nigeria is in her dying days and certain things need to be crystal clear to avoid unplugged loopholes. No regret for supporting Wike as at the time. At least he has shown the world his mind towards Ndigbo. Today every tribe in Nigeria now know who betrayed who between Ndigbo and Ndikwerre.
Another question is this; should Ndigbo regret voting GEJ?

Igboid:
You wrote a verbose post without even addressing the real points I raised.

Let me highlight them for you:

1. The Igbophobic Igboids in Ikwerre, Ika, Ukwuani are beyond redemption. They are gone forever and we can't get them back. If you belong to Facebook pages of these minorities and see the type of raw undiluted Igbophobic utterances they make their, you will develop your own hate for them as I have done.
You ain't getting them into your Biafra. They wouldn't let your referendum hold in their lands. Some of you IPOB hate embracing the truth.


2. The non Igbo minorities are on aggressive expansionist drive towards Igboland. They will reject your Biafra as they are currently doing because they know your Biafra is aimed at stopping their expansionist agendas.
So how exactly do you intend putting them into your utopian multiethnic Biafra? By force?
How hard is it to understand that multiethnic Biafra will not happen because those groups have their own Igbophobic agenda? Why is it hard for you lots to understand that these groups are our number 1 immediate ENEMIES and not allies as they constitute existential threat to our ancestral lands?

3. Ukwuani, Ikwerre and Ika are gone. Ndoki is the battle ground today. What is it going to be? Will you IPOB be useful for once and drop your stupid multiethnic Biafra and help Ndiigbo push the Ijaws back or will you continue your foolishness?

Contrary to what you wrote, they're not 'gone' like you think. All you see is the direction they think will help them to survive. When they meet a dead end as they surely will, they'll fall back. Like we've said before, you don't see the bigger picture.
Your sentiments are quite understood and would naturally be the response but forces at play calls for more complex engagements. This is why IPOB is a headache to the on going internal conquest in Nigeria. You clearly don't see or factor this into your calculations.
My advice to you is to continue your constructive criticisms as it concerns Ndigbo. You're doing well but be less abusive of IPOB or MNK as that wouldn't help a thing. You are serving a purpose just like IPOB is doing.
Lastly, you can contact other Igbo sociocultural groups to visit these Igbo groups under psychological attacks by shady groups hell bent on creating identity crisis among our people. Do this and be successful and be celebrated by our people.

Igboid:
You will not be able to reverse the Ogonization and Ijawnization policy if you are on your feet begging them to join your Biafra.

The way you are going. You will give away many concessions to the minorities to have them in Biafra that would make it impossible for Ndiigbo to reverse those policies.

What's the point of having Ikwerre in Biafra? Can you go to any Rumu village and do your rallies?
You know what Ikwerre Youths did the last time Ohaneze Ndiigbo tried to host Igbo day in PH? They raised so much dust that the governor of Rivers and the owner of the venue the events were scheduled to hold had to tell Ohaneze to look for a new city to hold the event.

Yes! Ikwerre is like a rotten tomato you have to pick and throw away lest it cause the rest of the good tomatoes to decay. Ikwerre is not Igbo and they are more Igbophobic than Ijaws. Unlike you lots that like living in fantasy, I live in reality. Ikwerre is gone!

I have never hated Ndoki. I'm only raising alarm so that we can nip things in their bud over there.

So you lots are well aware of these minorities aggressive expansionist agendas towards Igboland, you know they know that being part of Biafra will make their expansionist drive difficult, so they vehemently reject Biafra while working secretly to annex parts of Igboland. This make these groups our existential Enemies, yet you keep bringing out ridiculous maps with them in it?
What exactly are you lots hoping to achieve with the delusion of multiethnic Biafra? Who bewitched you?

We will not have another Zik(MNK) and NCNC (IPOB) in this era. Ndiigbo will not allow it.
Until IPOB become fully proud of being an Igbo only organization, chasing away all the non Igbo moles they have in their ranks. Until MNK drop the folly of multiethnic Biafra and IPOB and embrace pan Igboism and work towards it. I will continue to point out your flaws and bash you lots if need be.
Affliction must not arise a second time.

The current situation requires enough tact and strategic thinking which you don't wholistically see. The land grab by our Ijaw brothers is done out of foolish desperation for land since they barely have plain ones devoid of swamps coupled with other reasons. Like you said, their fixation on Ndoki is tied towards their cementing claims over Bonny. Opobo though connected to Bonny has another twist to it.
As for the Ikwerre, they will be weaned off Ndigbo to try going it solo let's see how they'll fare. History has recorded that an Ikwerre man first drew blood in November 2020.
To the Ndokis proper, the Igbo intelligentsia groups like Aka Ikenga and others should be in the forefront of taking the sociocultural and historical fraternity to the peripheral parts of the Igbo nation so to keep all together. You can't heap everything on the shoulders of IPOB. Among the leadership of IPOB, there are Ndokis there.
The comparison between NCNC and IPOB is not correct. Zik and MNK are not alike and do not reason alike. Zik left his home front unattended whereas MNK started from his home before linking up others. The period before NCNC and IPOB are not the same. People are politically more aware today than they were in the days of the NCNC. Bigger groups shouldn't be the first group to create boundaries (I know you will disagree but we'll be justified in due time). Whatever defeats Igbos will wipe off Ijaws. The smart ones among them know this only the foolish whose heart have been eaten by hatred don't see it. The same applies to the other numerous non-Igbo groups that encompass the SS states.
Conclusively, IPOB is very much right in going this way because we see the bigger problem. We know a Biafra made up of only Igbos including or excluding the Igboids will become a huge success but why be in hurry to toss away those with whom you share the same blood? Like you've always been told, not everything can be discussed on this public forum. IPOB is not made up of MNK alone and our goal is for the freedom of all Biafrans and others who wish to align with us.

Sufferingboy:
Why are you pained,remove hate from your mind.Look currently ukwuale produce over 100,000 bpd of crude oil.
This Nnamdi kano fake story of IKA dey funny.
In the ancient time,we were call "eka" byt the world has been corrupted to IKA.We have many clans with their indepedent kings.
Kanu is just business trying to change history of people he knows nothing about.I will not insult you like you are doing to me because I am not bitter like you.Igbos are just too bitter.
Who told you benin rejected us?Ika is a corrupted words of "eka".Stop beleiving lies that of IKA(Intergrated kingdom of Agbor) dein of agbor only control agbor.He cannot control igbodo,umunede etc their own kings control those clan.

You're right. Now face your side. The topic of discussion is not about Ika. When we want to discuss Ika, we will copy you.
Bye bye.

Armaggedon:
Good question. Now, maybe you'll need to ask yourself how Pre-war Eastern region was so managed that minority excesses were curtailed. Eastern region so prospered that it was described as one of the fastest developing economies in the world. Minorities though had their aspirations, knew their boundaries and therefore were able to predict the viability of their proposed states. The region was reasonably integrated. Many Ijaws born in the era bore Igbo names like even GEJ, many of them spoke Igbo as first language or were very bilingual eg Rex Lawson and Harcourt White. Even when Adaka boro declared his ND republic, he never had support among his people. When it was halted, we saw that he knew the Ijaws boundaries through his maps, and the expansionist instincts being displayed today wasn't at play then. Why was it so then? Why were groups disciplined then and respected each other?
It's mostly because Eastern region had clear political boundaries in the form of provinces and divisions which also reflected the ethnic identities. Even the Rivers province had Port Harcourt and Ahoada divisions which were Igbo speaking divisions, and guess what? They resented joining Rivers state as well as others Igbos did. So how did they suddenly become "self-loathing reprobates" after the war ended? how did Ogoni suddenly develop the guts to demand the ogonization of the name 'Obigbo'? How did a youngman in his 20s started Ijawnisation of Porthacourt with the name changes? how was towns and city that were not minority territories annexed into minority states?

The answer is very simple. We lost the war and lost the ability to make things happen in our own terms or even negotiate from a strong position. As a result, Ijaws were emboldened and Igbos given to them to govern. They created structures to deliberately distort Igbo national integration in the state. Which is why Ogbako ikwerre was created for the purpose of advancing FG -backed Ikwerre seperatism, LGA's and Senate districts were not delineated to reflect cultural groups as obtainable in places like delta and Benue, No formal teaching of their own native language of Igbo, Ikwerre suddenly appeared in the constitution as a tribe, even Ada George sand filled PH water fronts to create a homeland to ijaw people etc Now, compare it with Delta state where their senatorial districts reflect language boundaries. you will see that the identity crisis is far less toxic. The Ukwuani and Ika will like to argue about being from Benin but most accept the Anioma tag, which basically is Igbo and fight together for anioma state. The Igbo denial is just as normal as with Igede to Idoma or Urhobo and Isoko. Now imagine if Kwale was moved to Delta central and was made capital on the condition of proclaiming an Isoko origin, Igbo denial would be more lucrative and politicians would keep the divisions alive and use ethnic identity politics to survive, just like the way your own SE governors kill and work against their people to survive in politics. Don't underestimate the power of an establishment. From their flows money, power and legitimacy.

To answer your question, When Biafra comes, regions will reflect ethnic identities, respect for each other and sanity will return.

I think I'm clear enough. If you choose to remain dense, you can suit yourself.

You beat me to it. Igboid though a very intelligent chap doesn't see the multifaceted challenges Igbos are facing and the huge job IPOB have been doing. No one group can do the entire job as they would lose steam which is why synergy is of utmost importance.
This whole land grabbing by our neighbouring cousins is borne out of greed and foolishness and it will backfire in the future.