₦airaland Forum

Nigeria never needed him!
He should go and answer to his maker.

Gryffindor:
This particular act doesn't quite sit well with me,a priest without a stole vestment during mass gets to kneel during consecration,because he ain't wearing the symbol of priesthood nor can he give give communion without that,only seminarians seem to be allowed to wear a sultan & surplice to give communion.

So how come this aberration,a woman that isn't even a catechist🤦
If that's allowed all this while why not allow us come to the altar and deep our fingers inside the chalice as well as ciborium.
Just doesn't make sense tbvh.
At the end of the day looks like these rules are just made for times sake honestly


I need a proper explanation honestly🤷

Have you read enough about the Vatican 2 council? The order of worship and rites where changed somehow. Even responses where changed.

It use to be "the Lord be with you and we respond and also with you but now we simply say and with your spirit"

Quite some tangible changes and it has been going on for quite a long time now.

Another thing is the church sent ministers to explain the changes and gave us room to ask questions which we all did and answers were provided.

The changes were beautiful and globally accepted.
Just take it easy and possibly go to any priest to give you proper explanation to every rite. It is very noble to ask questions and honesty with the Catholic Church where you cannot get proper answers the Spirit of God will provide in words that probably no one can explain to you.

Letmecum:
I'm really getting sick and tired of hearing about devil working hard to do this or that to humans or Gods creature. Religions people blame the devil for everything that is bad. We're all born here in this planet we don't even have clue about the existence of God or Satan's every religion is being made by humans and all are claiming to be the best. Civilization has brought a lot of eye opening but many keep fighting with the thought of devil and God. As for me I find it very difficult to cope with anyone who takes this fiction stories about God and Satan. Because it's so clear to me that it's all lies but immediately you said it many will come after you. I believe there's a supreme power behind the universe a power that can't be described by humans wisdom. But Satan or whatever is a complete fiction to me. I can't even date a girl that is religions I don't believe in this crap why can't people see the true reality

You have seen abi? Oya stay in your lane and let others have their peace of mind.

At this age people really careless wether you believe in God or not. For me I am very glad when I see people who barely believe in God not because I like it but because it makes me appreciate God and feel very privileged.

Just have your peace. Ok?

Zooposki:
Thank you for the writeup. I enjoyed reading it.

Very welcome!

enixct:
This very bad,it's an aberration,consecrated host should only be handled by a consecrated hand,this is one of the reasons the Catholic Church is being destroyed from within.unfortunately those priests wouldn't listen due to pride and arrogance

Not really true please look at it from all angles. As a baptized and confirm Catholic you are also a priest so one can be consecrated to partake for some of the rituals in the church and mass.

Gryffindor:
Arghh,the church is no more what it used to be o
Felt like an I saw for me today o

How please explain?

His record was bad!
A man with good heart but wicked actions that yields very bad results.

Congratulations to them!

Zooposki:
I'm not well versed in all that. I go by history and what little my mom tells me. Maybe @FelixMax can help.

The Anioma nation as proposed is a very diverse space. A lot has gone with the coming of an Anioma state with all stakeholders been carefully carried along. If you hear of an Anioma state you are hearing of about 5 to 10 different ethnic groups. These people all came together to push for a common identity. The ANIOMA STATE.

Intertwined are Edoid, Igboid and Yorubaiod identities. The beauty of this is that barely will you find a conflicting ideology everyone seems to be having a common sense. It's so beautiful!

Marrying these people to a region whose history is also vast and struggle very contagious can derail, bastardize or distort the originality of the common Anioma people.

We don't want a place where banditry or terrorism will be grossly infiltrated. Like Delta state, Anioma is another place where you can say Nigeria is summarized. It's not everyone in Anioma that says Bia.

Another very important angle to look at it from is our cultural connection with the Benin kingdom. This is a very integral part of our historical formation that mare wishes cannot take it away.

Gryffindor:
Wow I'm shocked to hear this,tell me U ain't serios

I am very serious! I almost snapped the one in mass today but I don't know if it would be fine.

A lot has changed about the traditional mode of worship in the church but the core act of Apostolic worship are still very much preserved.

You can apply to be one if you are interested. I may in the nearest future.

Ttipsy:
as part of efforts to understand you and be on the same page with your opinion, I think your agenda, I mean your Ndokwa community agenda will not change even if incorporated in the ongoing struggle for Anioma state creation…
Well our conversation only end here on Nairaland; only popular people’s referendum will have the final answer.
As for your SE problem, you should try and clear emotions off your mind..
have a good day …

The Anioma state creation dream as been on for decades and has no iota of Southeast intrusion. We are only hearing it lately which made it seem as if it's a Southeastern agenda that is a lie from the pit of hell.

I don't have any Southeast problem. I love them and they love me too in their capacity I am only telling you it will not do us any favour and please this is my point of view to actually align the Anioma state creation to the Southeast. It makes no sense. It doesn't make any single sense.

Ttipsy:
you may have a linguistic problem with other Anioma languages. Like you said you speak Ediod and that should not wave off the part of igboid Aniomas who equivocally want Anioma to be crested 6th SE state.
Amioma as a state will be no different from other states currently in Nigeria that has so many language varieties.. but undoubtedly bia speaking people as majority
personally I think your problem is about SE;
and how will your national agenda be affected

Please don't make this a tribal issue or regional issue. As a people we have looked at it from all angles and carefully think the odds will not be in our favour should we align with the SE.

We love and share a lot of commons with that region, we also believe our overall diversity is our strength.

Zooposki:
We don't want to be part of South East. Majority of our people are in South South and make up part of the Benin kingdom, hence why we are in the South South. Why should we want to be in the South East and be seperated from the rest of our people? Makes no sense.

@Ttipsy please listen to the voice of the people. To be honest I personally don't know anyone in this forum that has contributed in this post so far but you can see collectively we are all almost speaking in one voice. Probably when this post gets to page two and beyond we may have a lot of views.

Ndokwa as a nation, as a people have their own agenda that cannot be wired to that of Southeast. It is as Easy as it is.

Nobody tells an Igbo man what to do and what makes you think it will be a reverse with us? Very sharply, the Ndokwa people are peace loving. We want to remain so for so many reasons.

Please rest and don't push it.
We know lingually and culturally we share quite a lot of similarities not withstanding we still reserve the right to choose where we want to belong.

The Igbo people are our brothers and blood from other regions and anywhere we find ourselves we know we are one. It should stay so.

Ttipsy:
what exactly is the national agenda if I may ask ?
I think I can’t get the line clear

Get across to the NNU and you will get your questions answered.
The Anioma dream has been there and never was it expected to be part of an Eastern region. Is that clear enough?

As Ndokwa people we have our own agenda period!

Zooposki:
There are different ethnic groups in Anioma. There are Edoid, Igboid and Yoruboid. My mom's village is in Ndokwa East and Rivers state and we speak an Edoid language.

Wow! Which village is that. I am from Ndokwa East.

Chekwume16:
You can go ahead and create anioma state
No problems with that but we will never be part of south east. We won't allow them import that their stupid biafra and sit at home to our lovely anioma land. This is my position and the position of the majority of anioma people

God bless your soul! Mbene! Aje!

Ttipsy:
why
What’s wrong if Anioma state is made the 6th SE STATE

Everything is wrong! Everything is wrong. You want to align us to a region where we are going to be completely stripped of our voices.

We have carefully noticed their wicked campaign against our people and distortion of our history. A people who barely know their history trying to rewrite the history of a people existed Centuries before them. We are very patient and intelligent people.

We know the struggles of our ancestors and how we got to where we are today. Aligning us with the Southeastern region may have a very irreversible effect on our people and National agenda.

Yes very much allowed and it is been going on now for more than a decade.
Those people you noticed are referred to as extraordinary ministers.

Some people though still craftily avoid receiving from such people

Nobody is against the creation of Anioma state but aligning it with the Southeastern region is the bone of contention and that is where we are saying no to.

The NNU has stated it very clearly and Ned is on his own.

Olatunji1929:
May almighty God curse that foolish and weak party
How can wike still be considered a pdp member despite his anti pdp stance since last presidential election does that mean pdp Constitution is useless or wike is more powerful than all the pdp big men? Now another mumu want wike to contest against Tinubu smh Nigerian should stop seeing this miserable party as an opposition party

God bless your soul!
Peter Obi or nothing!

VnAhunnaPl:
No one can explain the rationale behind the Kwankwaso and Okowa defection to APC.

Yes I can! It's nothing but a strategic move.

Threedoorsdown:
A one party nation isn't good for any country

This is what this man wants. Turned all his opponents to slaves either by force or persuasion

You guys would realize the effects sooner than later

Most Nigerians are daft they will not.
I wonder how Ned Nwoko will feel seeing Sheriff in APC.

That will just be the tip of the iceberg.
I want Tinubu for a second term so afterwards Nigerians will learn something they will never forget in a lifetime.

The fool has the audacity to remove a democratically elected government and Nigerians are still docile.

The North only knows how to make mouth.

Salewa97:
Tinubu is a man of the people. He will listen to their demands.

I trust him to do the right thing.

Somebody that does not listen to news? Lol!

oyichi:
How?, Because he demanded that a stupid fool should be impeached?

You guys should relax! Nigeria military should brace up to kill everybody in South South.

What is coming ahead no one knows.
Lol!

You guys should know that the Niger Delta / South South is bleeding.

Boys are going into the creeks.
Nigeria government does not have the military intelligence to quel what may come up.

givedemwotowoto:
We’re asking the same question

Trust me there will be serious reprisals. I can tell you that from a very panoramic point of view and I will beat my chest and tell you that the calibers of people to calm the militants should it happen are not among the crop of politicians we have at the moment.

The APC does not know what it has gambled into. Everything is not about being a drug lord. There is serious tension going on at the moment and we are approaching the raining time.

These guys are beasts when it rains. These is going to take almost the entire Niger Delta / South South regions.

I don't want anyone to quote me. Consider it that I did not say anything. More like I am just alleging please.