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lagbaja: @femu, I feed my camborough breeds samfeed as my other breeds and their response has been fantastic as stated earlier. The most important criteria is ensuring that you have a balance ration in terms of crude protein, crude fibre and metabolic energy and essential vitMins and nutrients.

Almost all My large whites ( bought at oke aro from a farmer who had previously brought form obasanjo farms) got pregnant at first attemp.

I bought my pig nipple at a cost of N500 a piece from aliexpress. I used an agent I found on nairaland. Chrisvicmall precisely. You only require 2 of nipples per pen of 10 pigs or piglets. What investment is better than that.

Here is the link to buying the nipples. They sell them in lots. In this case 5 pieces per lot.
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/5pcs-1-2-inch-1-2-SS316-stainless-steel-nipple-drinker-waterer-for-pig-drinking-small/973786415.html


On use of farrowing cage, you seem to finally agree on my initial suggestion for use of a slatted floor and manure allay which is an Integral part of a farrowing cage.

On feed, that was where I started from. can u pls Suggest a balanced feed ration that will cost N30 to N40 per kg to counter the one I previosusly suggested.

On soak away pits, a well designed soak away pit has 2 chambers, the septic tank and the soak away pit just like you have in homes. The absence of either will cause a total failure. The soak away is designed to drain away the water. The septic tank holds the semi solid manure? the base and if possible the sides should not be concretized so that water can sip away and leave u with the solid material which in turn is manure and can be sold to farmers.

Am not tackling you o. you have made beneficial contributions, however am just expressing caveats for beginners, people with limited funds and pensioners.

My impression of pure foreign breed pigs is formed by my experience and interactions with different farmers over the years.
You haven't told us your weaning weight, farrowed litter size, weaned litter size and weight at 6months to justify the investment on foreign breeds.

Slatted floors are good let's see how your implementation proceeds. How easy will it be to extract the manure from the soakaway for sale to farmers?how attractive will it be to extract for the buyer,do you pump or pack it?
The farms I have observed doing this have a dedicated vehicle dat pumps this waste and sprays it on their farmland.

You made an important contribution on generating maggots from pig waste to feed fish, I have also practiced it but gave up for some obvious reasons. I look forward to more exposure on generating maggots efficiently from pig waste.

I have no reason to criticize your feed formula it is good, feed formuation depends on your locality.
Farmers in ilesa hardly pay for Brewery waste, just transport cost. In Ota, it is a different story. In Ota, Cassava peels almost cost nothing.
In Oyo, maize is pure water. I used to get bloodmeal for free etc......

After constructing my pens, I went to ilesa to visit farmers. I was amazed at what they where able to achieve with limited financial resources.
Infact a farmer constructed a 15 room pen and didn't spend a kobo on roofing. The idea he used is very smart.
We are all learning!!!

eazeefix: 90kg is textbook standard in more developed countries where supporting infrastructure are on ground yes and fine but here your can breed @45-60kg becos the gilt will still be growing during pregnancy. I bred some gilts at 80kg and got nice results no farrowing issues but had to police them to avoid crushing of the piglets.

very true.

eazeefix: Oga mi sir i actually bought material to contruct my own farrowing crates but thot my efizi was too much would appreciate if i could see its installation. Some of my sows are lousy mothers thinking of evicting them from my breeding program but if these crates can work then I would really appreciate it.

crates are very helpful during farrowing and afterwards. i will send you a pix when i go to the farm

it's important for us to examine both sides of any suggestions in order to get the best and help beginner farmers.
the issue of hot water when using nip.ples isn't to be underestimated in agriculture... the solution, you have just stated after we examined it.
when we suggest brewery waste and cassava we must let beginners know inappropriate use can lead to mortality.

@lagbaja what happens to the soakaway when it gets filled? I once did 60ft and it got filled in 2months from poo alone.

my issue with pure foreign breeds include:
they select what they eat
some don't come on heat
higher rate of dull boars
can easily die under stress
lousy mothers.

What we need to focus on is cheap feeding and processing.
so far farrowing crates have been the most justifiable investment on my piggery, i hardly lose a piglet in the first 7 weeks
some of our predecessors in agriculture made the mistake of over investing in nonessentials and couldn't sustain the biz when hit with challenges or need to reinvest.

@ eazeefix thanks.

@lagbaja what's your strategy for removal and disposal of the waste under the slatted floor?

There are design factors to be considered when employing modern tech.they have some important disadvantages especially in our context....

I know a poultry farmer that lost 500 birds, due to consumption of hot water from drinking nip.ples, the water was hot as a result of the afternoon sun.
Nip.ples can get blocked with dirt and the animals will have little or no water.
If a nip.ple system is employed and the workers get used to not bothering about water for the animals they might not know on time when the tank is empty.
Only very committed workers will bother to shower the pigs at intervals especially when Oga isn't around.

Nip.ples and sprinklers/showers work best when the owner is always around or in a computerised environment.
Its the way forward but only with a good design, loyal work force and automation.

lagbaja: Pkc has between 14 and 19% crude protein. Cassava has 2.6% crude protein ( it is primarily the source of energy). They are currently the cheapest and most available of all the feed materials. Pkc is sold at about N23 per kg. we get our cassava at N16 per kg. by modifying the pkc to 60% , cassava 30%, and maintaining blood meal at 6 to 8%, you will achieve close to 17% crude protein in the piglets meal.

You will notice that I have not mentioned brewery waste as my source of feed. The reasons are as follows:

1. Though, they have between 25 to 30% crude protein, they are more expensive than pkc. They are sold wet having up to 60% water content by weight. A truck of 10tons is sold for between N30k and N40k. That makes it N30 per kg. by the time it's dried, you have 50% of what you paid for. Effectively, you are buying at N60 per kg.

2. Supply is inconsistent.

3. Storage can pose a lot of challenge both in terms of labour and logistics.

what is the weaning weight and age of your piglets?
is cassava and pkc alone not too much fibre for piglets?
how long does it take you to hit 100kg?

PURITYMYPRIDE: excelsifarm,my questions are:1.is it a must to castrate my pigs if i intend to by seven months.2.At what age should i castrate them?

it's good to castrate immediately after weaning, provided they aren't struggling with their feeding. don't castrate weak piglets or piglets with poor body condition

Feeding cheap is important but a major challenge of pig production is piglet mortality. causes include:
sow cannibalism
sow crushing
piglet diarrhoea
born inside wallow

a friend's sow once delivered 19 piglets and she lost ten of them due to crushing.

If you're serious about breeding profitably only a farrowing crate can help.
It restricts the mothers movement ensuring she only eats and feeds the piglet.
This also gives u d opportunity to offer the piglets some creep feed that will aid their weaning.

I have Farrowing crates for sale and you can learn more on:
http://no1pigfan./2014/07/18/advantages-and-disadvantages-of-farrowing-crates/

Its too easy to dismiss but this isn't brain washing but strategic thinking.....ISIS is just a franchise of a global jihadist movement. It's not that they will come all the way from Iraq to Nigeria. Ponder this and look at the world map as you do:

Somalia-al-shabaab
Iraq/Syria-isis,alnusra
Pakistan-taliban
Afghanistan-taliban
China- uighur
Nigeria -Bokoharam
Russia -Chechnya and Dagestan
Europe/US- home grown terrorists/terrorist cells waiting for activation
Egypt- sinia terrorists.
Yemen-alqaeda
India-terror cells
Libya
Mali-AQIM

Most of these groups are salafist/wahabi. Rather than go down since 911 they have proliferate. Osama embarked on a war of attrition with the US and their economy suffered. The Nigerian economy is presently suffering as a results of insurgency in the North.
They are spreading their ideology globally and probably thinking of getting a crude nuke. Its an ideological battle that should be combated with economic,diplomatic,military and media tools.
These guys are a threat to civilization and humanity, but their existence is sustained by arm dealers and corrupt governments

Keziehenry: tnx so much. Pls is pig farming profitabl

very profitable if you can feed cheap, feed quality, increase litter size and reduce piglet mortality.
learn more on: http://no1pigfan.

expert101: The reason why I don't like pig is that they eat alot of food. I wonder if the sellers actually make profit considering the amount of food you need to feed them because they are measured by their weight and sold in Kilos. You need capital in large quantity to succeed in the business.

The animals dey consume no be small.Lol

The same principle applies to Catfish and Broilers.
You must know what to feed Pigs and how much to feed!

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500 pieces of 6 month old Cockerel for sale.

Price is 1500 a bird.

serious buyers call 08034209301.

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ode remo: Drop your number so my man can call you if u are
Serious. You did not proceed on your initial enquiry but we can still
Do business.
Awaits your response.
Atenifarms.

Sir your location and available quantity is an issue. We can only buy a minimum of 50 outside Ota.

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julibaba: My pig breeds are landrace, largewhite and duroc.

Yea where I got them is ok

Cos I saw the parent stock

I feed them from weaners for three and half month with concentrate

12 % soya
20 % maize
50% pkc and Gnc
15% brewery waste
3% lysine lime bone meal

But now incapacitated cos of the urge some of money I wasted on feeding and not attaining meaningful weight.

Got 70 weaners weaners wen I started in January and 65% of the stock is underweighT

Am now feeding dem on cassava peels, pkc and brewery waste alone

this is a good but expensive ration which might not be realistic towards current market price.
Also the stomach of recently weaned pigs can't take full advantage of this ration so a lot of it will be excreted.

A new farm in Ota needs 200 Weaner and/or Grower pigs to fill up their rooms.

If you can meet this order within the next week, please drop your contact here.

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ok we shall learn from you. continue to share

i like the wire mesh concept, pls shed more light on the effectiveness

Omerian Consult: Indomie. Yes!! Of course you will see samples, either wet or dry.

I need 1tonne of wet Indomie waste at Ota.

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