₦airaland Forum

Wulfruna:
So why are you not in this corrupt-free, honest and egalitarian society that you are from?

Why did you give up that place for 'one of the most corrupt countries in the world', filled with men (Nigerian men) that you h.ate and cannot stand?

Are you a fugitive or something? Did you commit a crime in Norway and ran to Nigeria to escape justice?

No mate, the simplest way I can explain it so you might understand is my people (Scandinavians) are too robotic like in nature for my tastes

And lived in too many countries around people and cultures you don't even know exist

I'm not prim and proper like my people as you can tell and simply put I'm a citizen of the planet not the country I was born or my family are from

Why would borders or lines on a map matter to me when I have the financial ability to make them disappear?

Nigeria is just sheer and beautiful bloody chaos
Silence hurts my head

Why is Nigeria quiet?
There is always some kind of noise here
Some kind of distraction
You men are easy to aggravate and upset then take apart

You have no concept of standing up for yourself and actually fighting

From my experience the only tribe of men here that will actually fight are hausa (dambe boxers) but even they are not worth a five knuckle shuffle in a fight because they will only actually fight men they think are weaker and know they can beat

Where's the fun in that?
Basically this country is fun to me

You harp on about your kidnappers and how dangerous the roads are

Even at night, but you don't understand what real danger is here and it's adorable

Stephenomozzy:
Like I said previously, thanks for your service, but no thanks for your "God complex".

A phd and service in the military is commendable, but you have without an atom of shame said that you did them to fulfill the conditions of getting a family inheritance?

C'mon MOS 11B Aberg! What did you learn from the military and in your phds - You should accept this - no culture is perfect; it is the height of irresponsibility to call one culture worse off than the other - because you're insulting the beliefs that built great men even while there emerged bad apples too;

There's an adage we have in our "lie tradition"; "dem nor dey use vex throway pikin and bath water" - yes there are bad traditions (even in your so called civilized Europe) - but to say we're good for nothing, every man in Nigeria? How dare you!

And no I'm would not be marrying her tribe and no I would not be marrying her family

They are not my family until AFTER THE WEDDING

And respect is earned not demanded and not automatic just because someone is older

Your traditions are not traditions because no groom gets what your ancestors said they were for but the brides family get everything your ancestors said they were for and more today

And if you cannot simply respect the word no I don't want to then you deserve no respect

Why would we care what her tribe thinks? When do we every see her tribe and kinsman after the wedding and they got the handout they came crawling for the moment the word wedding was mentioned? How many are even an active part in the woman's life before or after a wedding?

And how often do your families actually interact with each other after a wedding? Never

You basically ignore each other I've been here long enough to see it

And after marriage we are treated completely different to a Nigerian husband

It's always only the families and extended families contacting us for money not to see how we are or wish us well, just when they need something so are not family to you after just the white walking atm that married a woman you are related to

And most times the woman keeps you away from us because of that so you and your greed doesn't destroy the marriage

Stop lying, Nigerian men are evil and greedy when it comes to marrying you a woman from your families, the mothers are never like this over traditions and it's always Nigerian men saying how important your fake traditions are

Do you notice any women arguing with me about it at all? Or do they understand the truth on here?

Stephenomozzy:
Like I said previously, thanks for your service, but no thanks for your "God complex".

A phd and service in the military is commendable, but you have without an atom of shame said that you did them to fulfill the conditions of getting a family inheritance?

C'mon MOS 11B Aberg! What did you learn from the military and in your phds - You should accept this - no culture is perfect; it is the height of irresponsibility to call one culture worse off than the other - because you're insulting the beliefs that built great men even while there emerged bad apples too;

There's an adage we have in our "lie tradition"; "dem nor dey use vex throway pikin and bath water" - yes there are bad cultures (even in your so called civilized Europe) - but to say we're good for nothing, every man in Nigeria? How dare you!

Typical Nigerian response the only african country that still blames all whites for the transatlantic slavery incident when.....

The Portuguese started it in africa not the British and most white countries actually nothing to africa

All other African countries admit they were actively selling their own people and were doing it all to each other for centuries before any white countries even knew africa existed

Actually get off your ass and research these so called great men

1) traditionally no Nigerian daughter got to choose a husband

Her father forced her to marry a man he chose to raise the family status and the traditional weddings were actually thanking that father for the permission to rape his daughter for life in non consented marriage

2) part of your traditional weddings were so you didn't kill each other

The bigger more powerful tribe or village next could wipe you out if they wanted back then so sell them the most beautiful virgin in the village against her will to be raped and call it a wedding to appease them

Funny how you all refuse to acknowledge or research actual real history

Dzzzz:
You’re right to say Nigerian culture should not be imposed on foreigners for they have their own tradition but do not call it a lie or false tradition..If you can’t do it then you make it known to your woman and she will let her parents know it’s against your tradition,it could be bypassed..Are you vexed because of the wedding tradition or there’s more to it?

And why the hell do you all use the line talk to her parents

THEY HAVE NO LEGAL SAY once over 21 years old

Why do you constantly make out that other people have power to make decisions in your life and give consent

The law is freedom to marry not parents need to give consent so you can wipe your arse

Dzzzz:
You’re right to say Nigerian culture should not be imposed on foreigners for they have their own tradition but do not call it a lie or false tradition..If you can’t do it then you make it known to your woman and she will let her parents know it’s against your tradition,it could be bypassed..Are you vexed because of the wedding tradition or there’s more to it?

If you are not doing it for the reasons your ancestors did it

If you are not offering what your ancestors offered for it

If a man doesn't get what your ancestors said it's for but you do get what it's for

Then it's not a tradition it's just greed, fraud, domination and a human rights violation

And I was married to a yoruba until cancer killed her and I did none of it because the law is always on the non Nigerian side in this matter Unless he specifically signs a document agreeing to it and that woman was a virgin but it's still mandatory and cannot be forced especially since her father wasn't in her life and raped her older sister as a child

Now I'm married to a wonderful Igbo woman

Dzzzz:
I was sleeping in my apartment and this married woman came into my room,sat on me and put breast in my mouth!!!..She’s been trying hard to get me in bed with her..I’ve been sexually abused🥹

Are you gay?
If you are single and she does that giving you consent then you bend her over and make her squeal like a pig

Not your fault her husband either let's her or marriage means nothing to her

And how is that abuse?
You are male, you are bigger than her unless she's obese
You are stronger than her and really didn't want her doing it then it would have ended immediately because you could have stopped unlike if a man does it to a woman

Stop complaining about nonsense you men are fraggles

Stephenomozzy:
What's your obsession with tribe weddings? You were lied to - a phd in all 371 tribe weddings and cultures back to their origins as told to your by the people of the said tribes? Or as taught to you by your professors who do not even know the tribal make up of any single African tribe beyond what they read on their one-person-perspective textbook?

You should request for a refund from that school that awarded you a phd; and they should be jailed too.

By studying it in Nigeria and reading what actual tribe ancestors said in their own words flying between Norway, Nigeria and the uk from 17 - 22 because it doesn't take until late 30s to get an education like you lot

Stephenomozzy:
In the end, you are still here...... you are protected not by your money; you are protected by our collective security - you're protected by our Nigerian men you are so vile against. I would have expected that by now, you'll be schooling me about your Scandinavian cultures and how it trumps our own.

I am not some pansy ass fraggle that won't fight for himself

I'm not some pansy as fraggle that needs other people to protect him

I'm not some pansy ass fraggle that hides behind other people

I am a warrior of the northern lands and I defend myself with fist and fury unlike you men

Stephenomozzy:
In the end, you are still here...... you are protected not by your money; you are protected by our collective security - you're protected by our Nigerian men you are so vile against. I would have expected that by now, you'll be schooling me about your Scandinavian cultures and how it trumps our own.

And I have not once said my culture is more valuable or worthy any other

Go and check
And I have only said YOURS ARE NOT MORE VALUABLE than the other around 3800 in the world

I have never said stop doing them or make them extinct

All I have said is stop lying about them, stop demanding them and stop expecting them especially from people not Nigerian

Some of us come from culture where your acts are forbidden but not a big deal to you

I come from a clan what you call a tribe and in my clan it's forbidden to Kneel or prostrate because it's an act of a coward

Am I supposed to betray my culture to satisfy a selfish Nigerian father to satisfy his ego and insult my people while they watch for him? Or pretend to offer to do it at my own event so he looks big rejecting it in a fake display? That everyone attending knows is a fake display

Stephenomozzy:
In the end, you are still here...... you are protected not by your money; you are protected by our collective security - you're protected by our Nigerian men you are so vile against. I would have expected that by now, you'll be schooling me about your Scandinavian cultures and how it trumps our own.

No mate I'm protected by myself and my history in the military and gaining the skills to mess men like you up

I've fought in multiple wars and in multiple war zones primarily Afghanistan

Yes I'm Scandinavian but I was British military
A royal Marine

MOS 11B Åberg, mate

I had to earn everything I got by fulfilling conditions to get a family inheritance since I'm the only living male left

1) get an education (phds)
2) serve in a military and fight for freedom

Stephenomozzy:
Mr. Scandinavian, I'm a bit disappointed in you, one would have believed that a decree of common-sense would have attached itself to you by now - just because a tradition has someone been wrestled down due to globalization and 'civilization' it doesn't make it fake! It doesn't mean that it was illegal during its time! It was good for what it was good for THEN..... it served it purpose, it kept the society of its practice together, it kept its people sane and responsible to the community.

Lemme break it down for you in terms - are you saying monochrome televisions were fake and illegal then just because we don't use them now? Incase you are unaware of this fact which i'm sure you know but are dancing around accepting - civilizations evolve and 'values' change - your reference about women whoring around - that's thanks to your European influences - whoring around is a very European thing, mate. Do you guys do everything in terms of marital law and governance as it was done in Scandinavian countries 100years ago?

Don't talk about a country that you have never stepped foot in

Never spoken to people of
Never lived with or around

Your only view of the world is through screens

I've visited and lived in 153 countries out of 195 countries

I've talked to the people and asked them what they value and research their origins

You have never left Nigeria and probably never will, lived in Nigeria on and off for nearly 20 years since I was 17 and came to study for my phds

And lived with you seeing all the nonsense

Fenrir:
Do all Nigerian men automatically assume and demand any groom Nigerian or not have to participate and want participate in your illegal and fake traditional weddings?

Is 1 part of them mandatory?
Is 1 part of them necessary?
Is 1 part of them required?

Is customary law actually relevant once a man or woman is over 21 or do multiple other laws cancel customary law out?

Are your fake wedding traditions actually traditions at all?

Did your african ancestors actually make traditions where a woman can freely sleep with man or men and most times get pregnant for those men and never marry or get commitment from them, those men never had to ask the family permission to sleep with her and never had to thank for sleeping with her Yet expect a husband to beg, grovel, honour and thank the family to be her 2nd or 3rd or 100th man based on her choices to have sex before marriage?

Or would your ancestors traditionally be disgusted by that for all tribes because if you read their own words all wedding traditions for all tribes are only for a family that offer a virgin bride and to thank them for a virgin bride

Nothing Nigerians do today has absolutely anything to do with the traditions your ancestors started in any form when it comes to marrying and urhobo are a prime example of that

Traditionally if her husband died early that wife was expected to marry one of his male relatives If she wanted to or not to keep both families bonded

That's a wedding and marriage tradition too, is that mandatory now? Is that required now? Is that necessary now? Is that or any traditions enforced if A COUPLE DONT WANT TO DO THEM?

you all outright lie as men the moment you have daughters demanding traditions you have not earned be respected and taken seriously

And yoruba do honestly think that their ancestors intended for a vile act of worship and submission bloody prostration be thrown around for any woman or family just because they want it? When the literal definition of good woman who's family deserve prostration in their ancestors words were a good woman that is a virgin at her wedding and has children inside marriage

Now even a yoruba father of a woman that has had multiple kids for multiple men and never married or had had her back blown out by multiple men before a husband or the father of a runs girl demands and expects it

As a nation of men you are mentally sick and petty insecure people that need your egos stroked and be worshipped for doing nothing at all

Stephenomozzy:
See who's preaching about independent research - who has not even done a simple thing beyond reading what came out as the first result on Google about Nigerian History....You're the one quoting statistics that are not valid.

You're the one not able to distinguish between a sample of a population vs the population itself.

You say we blindly believe the nonsense of our older men - because you know better na - since you have so mightily built hospitals and schools; why not build a cultural center and also teach us the Scandinavian interpretation of the over 371 ethnic groups in Nigeria

Actually mate I have phds in all 371 tribe wedding traditions and wedding cultures back to their origins something none of you actually bother to research at all

And the only reason I got them was to piss my racist grandfather off

Stephenomozzy:
Let me educate you!
1. What do Nigerian contribute to the world: https://www.nairaland.com/2769583/top-five-nigerian-scientists-great

2. You think you can buy your way into being a Nigerian because you built infrastructure - (Thank you for your service, but no thanks for your bad behaviour).

3. We need the world? You truly have zero idea what makes up the mental prowess of a Nigerian man - if you were born under the same conditions where most Nigerian men who have risen to global heights were born, you'll probably be homeless - because you seem not to be able to reason beyond the distance of your nose, my good sir.

4. Our fake tribal traditions? Loooool.... The Nigerian culture is so rich that you can dedicate the remaining small decades of your time on earth to trying to understand our make up, you'll still not learn up to 20% of it. You're acting like your Norse culture are the hail Mary? Are we going to forget your Scandinavian ways of looting, r**ap*ing and keeeling people, human sakri-f--ces and all that were the gospel right? Please..... how many culture have you been exposed to? Yoruba? Ibo? Hausa? You think the three you read about in your General knowledge curriculum is everything there is to know about our Traditions? You want to pretend that our so called fake traditions did not promote chastity, family virtues, collaborative living, honesty? You want to pretend that ya'll Europeans in your self-ordained didn't mess with what would have been the best place on earth? You want to pretend that ya'lls government do not exploit Africa till date?

5. The second we become fathers to daughters? Now you're attacking fatherhood? Do you have Kids Fenrir? Have you trained a child against all odds before? If not for your government, basically providing you with everything, would you be man enough to stand up to a Nigerian man?

Do all Nigerian men automatically assume and demand any groom Nigerian or not have to participate and want participate in your illegal and fake traditional weddings?

Is 1 part of them mandatory?
Is 1 part of them necessary?
Is 1 part of them required?

Is customary law actually relevant once a man or woman is over 21 or do multiple other laws cancel customary law out?

Are your fake wedding traditions actually traditions at all?

Did your african ancestors actually make traditions where a woman can freely sleep with man or men and most times get pregnant for those men and never marry or get commitment from them, those men never had to ask the family permission to sleep with her and never had to thank for sleeping with her Yet expect a husband to beg, grovel, honour and thank the family to be her 2nd or 3rd or 100th man based on her choices to have sex before marriage?

Or would your ancestors traditionally be disgusted by that for all tribes because if you read their own words all wedding traditions for all tribes are only for a family that offer a virgin bride and to thank them for a virgin bride

Nothing Nigerians do today has absolutely anything to do with the traditions your ancestors started in any form when it comes to marrying and urhobo are a prime example of that

Traditionally if her husband died early that wife was expected to marry one of his male relatives If she wanted to or not to keep both families bonded

That's a wedding and marriage tradition too, is that mandatory now? Is that required now? Is that necessary now? Is that or any traditions enforced if A COUPLE DONT WANT TO DO THEM?

you all outright lie as men the moment you have daughters demanding traditions you have not earned be respected and taken seriously

Stephenomozzy:
Seun's antispam bot has taken it upon itself to delete all my subsequent comments. Lemme just put the matter to rest here and advice you. Intelligent people don't do generalization - generalization is a lazy fhuuuls excuse to escape the responsibility of learning the truth. You can only say "SOME NIGERIAN MEN" not "NIGERIAN MEN" in general - Imagine me holding a myopic view that all Scandinavians are d*hum*b because one of their retirees is jumping around on Nairaland saying lies about a whole nation.

And as for the truth and being lazy that's Nigerian men in a nutshell when it comes to Nigerian traditions and history

None of you get off your backside and independently research it any of it for any of your tribes, all you do is blindly believe the nonsense older men (your fathers and Uncles) tell you

Stephenomozzy:
Seun's antispam bot has taken it upon itself to delete all my subsequent comments. Lemme just put the matter to rest here and advice you. Intelligent people don't do generalization - generalization is a lazy fhuuuls excuse to escape the responsibility of learning the truth. You can only say "SOME NIGERIAN MEN" not "NIGERIAN MEN" in general - Imagine me holding a myopic perspective view that all Scadinavians are d*hum*b because of of their retiree is jumping around on Nairaland saying lies about a whole nation.

I got banned for 30 minutes for using 1 word that wasn't even offensive or illegal

Anyway it's not a segment of Nigerian men and it's not a few Nigerian men it's all Nigerian men the second you become fathers to daughters

Simply by using the words mandatory or necessary or required for your fake tribal traditions

The second you use those words it becomes fraud and a violation of human rights and yorbua are the worst for it and I have just stood up in introduction and knocked the father's brothers spark out for making ridiculous and illegal demands like how I dress and Kneeling or prostration to them

And you don't seem to understand 1 thing I have the right to do whatever the heck I want the human right to do whatever the heck I want as long as i obey the laws something that means nothing to Nigerian men

As for me being here I got citizenship as a reward for serving the country not the government by building hospitals, schools and orphanages and continuing to fund them completely independently with my own money you were just born here and do nothing for the country at all

Name 1 thing that Nigerian men actually contribute to world that's valuable to it? And not lies about your culture, lies about your traditions, lies about family values here and lies about religion or is it all take, take, take and demand, demand, demand

You need the world more than the world needs you as men, whenever your government wastes public funds or steals them what countries do you come running for loans and financial assistance to fix your mess that you will never be able to pay back because Nigerian men just steal that as well

Stephen0mozzy:
You see the difference between an African Man (Me) and you (non-African man)? You seem incapable of holding a conversation without reverting to unfounded claims of "Nigerian men" - shey na Population Analysis you dey do since you retired to Nigeria ba, that you now have so much data on all Nigerian men to make such unintelligent claims?

Please, don't be American/British - because one of our lies in Africa is that y'all are intelligent folks - don't smash our delusion 😭

Again you are wrong I'm Scandinavian

Norwegian and all Scandinavian countries are in the top 5 for least corrupt, most honest and most equal

Nigeria is one of the most corrupt and lying because of Nigerian men

And again go through my topics I have never mentioned race once I've have always mentioned nationality and gender (Nigerian men)

Stephen0mozzy:
But look at you seeking online validation of your high and mighty superiority on a Nigerian platform. Lol... Shift 😂

Go through my topics mate

I've said many times I love Nigeria that's why I live here full time and retired here, Nigeria is fun and has dynamic people but the male population are vile and filthy liars the second they become fathers to daughters, you lie about your what you call traditional weddings today, you lie about traditional values, you about cultural values and you lie about family values those 3 aspects of life simply do not exist here like human rights don't exist here if you don't have the funds to buy them

Stephen0mozzy:
Racial inferiority complex wan keel the two of una above.

If anyone is inferior or has an inferiority complex it's Nigerian men, all you do is lie and when someone shows evidence of your lies you double down on those lies or go all quite like told off little boys and it's disgusting how much you as men lie while further lying that you are a country that values respect while lying to get yourselves respected

Stephen0mozzy:
Racial inferiority complex wan keel the two of una above.

Don't add the word inferior to me I'm not African or one of you

Prudoh:
In terms of following religion like headless morons. When it's all same practice with different pattern.

Yes 100%
Most definitely and for lying about the fake traditional values, fake cultural values, fake family values and all while further lying and claiming to be nationalities respect yoruba worst of all

It's a cosmic joke with basically no real concept of human rights and all the governments are highly corrupt and mostly Muslim

Kobojunkie:
They should simply head to the local courts and be done with it.

Everyone should Nigerian traditions are huge lie and fake

It is disgusting how much Nigerian men and Nigerian families lie about the wedding process and at the same time claim they are a country and nationality of respect

And it's NOT a woman's fault here because every father and uncle lie to them from the day they are born

You do not like it when someone points out how much Nigerian men lie the moment the have a daughter

Do not like it when someone points out your traditions are fake and meaningless

You do not like it when someone is able and willing to use the law to stop it

You do not like anyone that's unwilling to tolerate the lies

You simply are not a nationality of respect or a respectful nationality at all