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wearsandtrends1:
SO YOU MEAN OVER 100 STAB WOUNDS DIDNT KILL THE MAN, BUT THE BETRAYL!!! That is literally Exaggerated bros

Nah, he was killed by the betrayal of shock. Multiple stab wounds would not kill a roman general of Ceasar's standing

Toju200:
guy let's just put that one aside..

Help him by telling him you know about the frigate. I know you know about it

kabe1:
This is cringe worthy

Nigeria has ordered frigates from Germany, yet only 2 people here know about this.

I mean, everyone has the right to air his or her opinion, but this is ludacris!! No offence.

If you had even said China, I would have considered it, but Germany, the "woke" capital of Europe.

It is not possible, this is the fact.

Please any update about SDB III

klhazhik:
IKR, I wasn't going to go deep.

Funny Enough, I've got just little about it.
I was only talking about your figures.

Its ok, we are on the same page. Don't worry about my figures, they are rock solid.

I could have said more on the Aradu missile launchers, but it not worth my time. Arguments and insults are what I would get. Smh.

klhazhik:
I know of the Corvettes too

But the Frigate Program, So far, I've seen Just one on order and it's Germany
I'll advice you double check though.

I know its Germany and I know the full specs, but please don't disclose too much here. There are guests on this thread.

kabe1:
You know what, let's just agree to disagree on this subject.

Correct guy

kabe1:
You can purchase tanks in secret, IFVs and MRAPs in secret, but not Frigates.

I enjoy you a lot, but the way you argue what you don't know, is bad.

klhazhik:
You sure it's 2 Frigates?

I thought it's 1 Frigate and 2 Corvette, I might be wrong though

Its a pair of frigates. Two corvettes too. You are a bad guy

Added- Frigates have been ordered, but not sure of the corvettes. But I am aware of the Corvette plan though.

Leave others to argue. Smh.

kabe1:
You can purchase tanks in secret, IFVs and MRAPs in secret, but not Frigates.

Bro, the order for frigate is unknown. It is a program not just an order. Until it comes b4 you know.

kabe1:
You can purchase tanks in secret, IFVs and MRAPs in secret, but not Frigates.

Ok, ended.

The way we dey debate matters here dey tire me.

If you don't know something does not make it wrong. No one know when the VT-4 was ordered. We did not see it in the budget also.

Make we keep open minds abeg. Not argue what we dont know.

lebuhsi:
my same dilemma, of the $1bn, released as an intervention fund for extra budgetary capital for the military, as of last year July a little over $800m was already expended

https://www.thecable.ng/presidency-1bn-security-fund-withdrawn-eca-spent/amp

no mention of frigates, so was wandering were the 'nigerian frigate program' fits in

See guys, the fact people don't know does not make it a lie. Common guys, lets leave this.

Some aspects of procurement are not disclosed. The navy especially has executed some defence projects that many are not aware of.

When we hear an info like the one I gave, we should keep an open mind, not argue what we don't know.

This poster is aware of the frigate program.
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kabe1:
I don't believe the Nigerian navy is getting any new frigates. The Navy & Air Force usually release statements, multiple statements on procurement plans.

2 Frigates is a big ticket purchase, and cannot be hidden. If Nigeria was getting 2 new frigates we would know about it.

We know from Thisday newspapers that Nigeria is getting a new Offshore Patrol Vessel.

Perhaps the biggest clue that Nigerian navy is not getting any new frigates is simply because our budget cannot afford it.

The Nigerian navy is getting 1 AW-139 helicopter, 1 hydrographic ship, 1 LST, 1 OPV, 1 SDB, 2 x 40 meters vessels and 2 x logistics barges.

How can we afford 2 Frigates giving our current budget with the above purchase?............ It's simply not possible.

Common bro. I didn't intend to raise a discussion about it. Lets just breath air and ignore it.

lebuhsi:
well, I hope you're right, any ideas as to when they were purchased?....timeline of delivery, spec, country of manufacture?

They have been ordered, not delivered. So, lets keep an open mind about the specs. We would know when the ships arrive..

lebuhsi:
...but how sure are you about this?

The navy are renowned to be very transparent about their acquisition process, even sometimes down to a pin!


We know(knew), about the LST, the hydrological vessel, SDBIII, refitting our missile boats, RHIBs, it seems rather strange the NN would purchase 2 FRIGATES!!!..and nobody hears about it, or are we getting them from N.Korea?

I agree with you about NN transparent procurement, but we are now seeing possibly new missiles on the Aradu. Open transparent procurement didn't tell us that.

I am 100% sure bro. It is called the 'future nigerian frigates' project. Few people here know about it but they are not loudmouths. They keep mute.

kabe1:
They are the same thing.

The NN had destroyed all Ottomat missiles, they would not still be on the Aradu.

kabe1:
They are the same thing.

These ones you posted are larger with sharp edges. The newer ones are smaller and compact with curved edges. Modern looks.

But lets be patient and keep our eyes for more pics of the Aradu. Hopefully, we would find differential evidence.

Kalapizim:
I noticed also

I think those are new missile launchers. They clearly look smaller and modern. I am not sure but I will keep my eyes on new pics of Aradu till I find clearly marked differences between the new and old launchers.

Note also that the Ottomat, Aspide, depth charges, Exocets, torpedoes were all destroyed about 5 years back. They were old and beyond serviceability, hence the need the destroy them.

If they were destroyed, then the navy would need to change the launchers on the Aradu to its newest missiles, torpedoes, etc.

kabe1:
There are multiple images of Aradu you can use to compare available online.

However from the most recent reports, Aradu has lost her fighting capability and would only enter back to service as an OPV.

We should look at purchasing a minimum of 3 new ships, a frigate and 2 corvettes. A couple missile boats too.

Aradu would now operate as an OPV just because its engines, transmission and control systems are now obsolete by modern standards. But they still work but are older systems.

That does not mean the ship cannot fire missiles. The downgrading to OPV means that the Aradu is not expected to sail far and wide across the oceans due to old engines & systems.

But it can still fire ...

There is an order for 2 new frigates. Smaller sized frigates but very modern. Fully armed.

Before

Now

kabe1:
Unfortunately, no video.

Okay. I was looking at Aradu in the pic, and it seems like her missiles were replaced.

If you look well, you may notice the missile launchers are differenf from the former launchers. I need to investigate more, that is the reason I wanted the video.

kabe1:
Nigerian Navy exercise

Nice. Those pics you posted are not from the linked Youtube video. Could you share the specific video please.

That Bianca dated this guy leaves me confused. Se has a problem with her judgement.

I hope she wins.

anonymous1759:
Not just Nigeria the host of African countries that court is a Big Scam if America , England and France president who destroyed Libya are still walking freely why's Charles , Sadam And the rest was prosecuted? He who comes with equity must come with clean hands.

You can't expect anything different when all the judges there are fed and dominated by them . America is not a member of the ICC but join the court to prosecute people that's biased .

You know something.

anonymous1759:
I'm not blabbing read in between the line before you quote me please . All I'm saying is that it's very possible for the west to rubbish him to reduce the influence of weaker nations for their dominance. Adeshina should be a pointer he's qualified but yet they tried to rubbish him what do you've to say about that ? Let's leave the hate you've for Apc or PMB and reason from side ways if this judge was from the south East or any other part of Nigeria your reply might have been different

Smart guy.

Tianamen1:
Op. Why would any country want to join Nigeria to form a single currency?

Most countries this year have had a decrease in the price petrol but here it is rising because the value of the naira is constantly falling.

Why is the value of the naira falling? Because we constantly purchase foreign goods and produce next to nothing.

Why do we produce next to nothing?

Because the quality of public primary education is poor, infrastructure such as Electricity is poor and security is poor.

Why is electricity poor?

Because the average unit cost of power rises when the naira falls versus the dollar, thus reducing Nigerians ability to pay for power.


Why is security poor?

Because of lack of productivity, general poverty due to the poor public primary education system.

So Op, please explain what any country stands to gain from coming under a single currency with Nigeria.

Well, other West African countries are not better. They are poorer and worse than Nigeria. Being in the Eco benefits them more.

Comments please