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jln115:
LOL!!! Did these people tell you Nigeria bought 2 Frigates and 2 Corvettes

So, the 40yrs old MEKO 360 Aradu has more Weapons Modules than your modern MEKO 200 frigate. Fact.

Hence the Aradu is more powerful. And that is the reason, no modern frigate in North Africa has taken the title of Most Powerful Ship from the Aradu.

It will take a fully armed Destroyer to win that title from the Aradu. And which African navy has such ship?

Stupid boy.

jln115:
Just answer the question mate is the iPhone 5 newer than the iPhone 8

From the document, you can see that both new and old MEKO ships have the same necessary systems. Even a 40yrs old Aradu has every system that your modern Valour class has. The design parameters are standard.

The only difference is that your Valour class has the newer technologies of those systems.

However, your Valour class has less Weapon Modules that the Aradu. The year of manufacture does not change that. It is a design standard.
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jln115:
Don't come spewing garbage and expect people to just eat it up.... Difference of opinion is one thing, talking utter rubbish is another.

I guess this document is utter rubbish....

It shows that the MEKO 360 has 6 Weapon Modules and the MEKO 200 has 2-4 weapon modules.

You want a Source, here it is (red dot).
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FieldMarshall06:
What this means is that, by design default, a Meko 360 would be packed with more functionality than a Meko 200.

The functionality does not change with year. It is the technology that improves with year, but the ship's functionality by design, remains the same.

In summary, a Meko 360 greater 200 greater 130. In decreasing functionality/capability.

Ok guys, I got some design info about the MEKO family of frigates. So that everyone can see that I speak facts.

Please see the analysis of MEKO family of ships, from the manufacturers Blom & Voss Gmbh.

Look at the Weapons Module (red markings). The MEKO 360 has the highest weapon module of all models.

The MEKO 360 has 6 different weapon modules. The MEKO 200 has between 2 to 4 weapon modules by design.

Except Turkey's MEKO 200 which got 5, by some design adjustments & removal of some other systems.
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Very risky bro.

I just educated a dumb folk who wanted to downgrade our great Aradu. Hence going further on your question is not advisable bro.

Toju200:
no shit
I heard you are also get F/8A growlers.

Nah, they need to get Denel back up from bankruptcy

And yes, the new frigate for the Nigeria Navy is still on course. I am currently seeking factual evidence. If I get one, I will share it here. But I can't guarantee anything.

FieldMarshall06:
What this means is that, by design default, a Meko 360 would be packed with more functionality than a Meko 200.

The functionality does not change with year. It is the technology that improves with year, but the ship's functionality by design, remains the same.

In summary, a Meko 360 greater 200 greater 130. In decreasing functionality/capability.

In conclusion and to rebuff future lies.

The Meko 360 and the Meko 200 are not and will never be in the same class. That is why they have different model numbers. The Meko 360 is superior by default functionalities/capabilities and that is the factory reason it was given model number 360.

But the Meko 200 being more modern would have the advanced systems and technologies e.g. the Meko 200 would have an advanced radar or sonar than the Meko 360. That is the advantage of being a modern ship. It carries better technologies. But it is a lesser capable ship by design.

Same way a Benz S-class would always have greater specs than the C-class. The year would never make a C-class become a S-class. Never.

The Meko 200 and Meko 360 are never in the same class and never will be.

Insults or not,,, we win wars.

Hennynitan:
Seriously, I was enjoying the argument between both of them until insults started pouring in.

He was not willing to face my superior arguments, then he resorted to insults about new frigates & corvettes. I would have schooled him thoroughly.

That's the problem here. If someone comes with superior points, they resort to insults to hide their ignorance,,,, and trust me, I will fire back.

There is humility in learning. You gain more knowledge.

jln115:
Cool story Agubugu

This deserves a holistic rebuttal.

Please I am Not Agaugust. And he can never be me. I am the one & only FieldMarshall.....

Anyway, I knew Agaugust on Beegeagle blog and we had good discussions about military stuffs, but we are different people. I have been here long enough and you would have known by now if I was Agaugust.

Apparently, he was your nemesis. The reason he had many arguments is the same reason I have arguments- because your ignorance stinks and I can't stand it. With your low reasoning, you keep arguing, which offends enlightened minds.

I didn't have to argue on Beegs because we were all on the same level, socially and rationally. And we discussed soundly. But here people that cannot pass Jamb, will stick stubbornly with their ignorance. Many will even be insulting their ancestors.

Sadly, these are people who are not qualified to be my driver in the real world. If not for love of military, we would never meet. That is the reason some of us are still angry with Beegs. If the blog was still on, you would not have soneone like me here.

Anyway, back to hibernation mode.

Sendless. Later guys

He has fled....

Am back to hibernation mode. I don't send boys.

jln115:
LOL!!! Did these people tell you Nigeria bought 2 Frigates and 2 Corvettes

Real men don't make noise. My source would remain a mystery. If you like, kill yourself.

What if I tell you Nigeria has ballistic missiles, would you believe? Or you want proof. Big fool.

jln115:
says said the dude that thought Aradu's missiles were replaced

Like I said,,, I have my ratings of everyone here.

If you think the same missiles of 40yrs ago is still on the Aradu since 1980s; then I can't help you.

And if you think the Ottomats missiles that were destroyed is still on the Aradu,, then good luck.

Schooling stubborn folks is not my life's goal. Continue in ignorance.

Where is the world is the number 200 bigger than 360. Imagine.... What kind of foolery is this?

jln115:
It's OK dude I already have 2 degrees(1 post graduate) and currently busy with my CFA qualification

Agaugust is this you?

My friend, you don't know me.

I rate everyone here, and I know the educated people here. Am not one of the posters you can play chess with. I will school you thoroughly.

You do not reach graduate standard. Fact.

Come here to argue rubbish. Smh.

FieldMarshall06:
It is the number or model that determines greatness, not the year of manufacture.

I worked with Toyota Company. In Toyota line-up, the Camry is higher than Corolla. Any corolla built will never be higher than a camry in specs. The Camry brand would always be packed with higher functionality than an equivalent Corolla.

This means a 2012 Camry would still have higher spec/functionalities than a 2019 Corolla. The Corolla brand is smaller by company default.

Stop this argument, there are solid people here.

What this means is that, by design default, a Meko 360 would be packed with more functionality than a Meko 200.

The functionality does not change with year. It is the technology that improves with year, but the ship's functionality by design, remains the same.

In summary, a Meko 360 greater 200 greater 130. In decreasing functionality/capability.

Next topic please. Enough of sillyness.

And if you ever have access to the kind of people I have access to, call me. I will give you £100,000.

jln115:
you are avoiding the question not me

Besides I don't expect someone who claims Nigeria has purchased 2 fully armed frigates from Germany and 2 corvettes with 0 evidence to be logical

When you ever pass Jamb or get University admission, call me. I will dash you £100.

If you ever in your life get post-graduate education, I will offer you £1000.

If you ever ever get a job in top govt office, call me, I will give you £10,000.

jln115:
you still haven't answered the question mate...

Also we are talking about ships not cell phones.... The Meko360 is smaller and less powerfully armed than the Meko200 so that's basically your argument dusted

My friend, go and sit down. I say sit down. Stop being silly.

The Meko 130 and 200 should be dragging. Bye.

jln115:
Just answer the question mate is the iPhone 5 newer than the iPhone 8

It is the number or model that determines greatness, not the year of manufacture.

I worked with Toyota Company. In Toyota line-up, the Camry is higher than Corolla. Any corolla built will never be higher than a camry in specs. The Camry brand would always be packed with higher functionality than an equivalent Corolla.

This means a 2012 Camry would still have higher spec/functionalities than a 2019 Corolla. The Corolla brand is smaller by company default.

Stop this argument, there are solid people here.

jln115:
which is newer the iPhone 8 or IPhone 5?

Is Meko 130 better or equal to Meko 200

So why do you think Meko 200 is better than 360.

What kind of argument do we even argue here.


Byeee

There is nothing we will not see here. Meko 200 vs Meko 360. The ship builders chose the numbers 200 and 360 for a reason.

I don't know when 200 becomes greater or equal to 360.

Or is Meko 130 better than Meko 200?

Or iphone 5 is greater than iphone 8. Funny men everywhere.

For information purpose, the title of "Africa's most powerful ship" has not been taken from Aradu. Even modern ships of North African countries do not sufficiently beat the Aradu to win over that title. A Nuclear, Biological, Chemical defence capable ship.

Back to hibernation mode.

daddytime:
Umahi's best friends.

Lilly livered arselicking morons.

You are correct.

That is the reason I don't like Umahi. He is an asslicker and he fails to protect his people, just to please another man. I have no respect for him, despite his good works.

pooozeee:
200k isn't a well paid job, some people are having salary as much as 350k 400k, now you are paid 200k and your boss insult you, that is harassment, harassment is the personal insult and expression of disgust or intolerance towards certain people or person or race and this is punishable offense according to the labour law in nigeria, if you continue to keep that 200k job with insult, your boss will continue to issue you query and that you are incompetent in the discharge of your duty which might eventually lead to sack, so report any harassment at work place to the HR and make sure you have evidence to support your claims

Don't mislead Op with your stupid post. Better remain silent.

onyeka205:
It is the statement of this natures which portrays the fact that students don't actually know the reason why ASUU is fighting, that made some ASUU members to begin to advise their national executive to now concentrate on only welfare of her members and forget all about other issues that concerns the students and parents such as University revitalization, visitation panel and increased university funding. The FG will be very happy if ASUU executives follow this directive. What it entails is that there will be introduction of tuition fees to the tune of #500,000 per student. The lecturers will be well paid but the tuition fees will compete with those of private universities and the population of students in private universities will increase tremendously. It will be a win-win for ASUU because there will be less number of students in public schools so the workload will reduce drastically. Moreover, there will be more opportunities for lecturers to bargain for more pay because less number of students will be able to afford up to #1.5 million that will be charged as a tuition fee for postgraduate studies, and there will be vacancy in most specialty areas of study. This will warrant bending the law to allow professors in those specialized areas to teach in more than two universities. Presently, the law permits a professor to teach in two universities (as adjunct staff) other than their parent universities. If the parents and students refuse to support ASUU to win this battle, the universities will be like FMCs where the patients provide everything for their treatment including hand gloves. The doctors were fighting like ASUU to rescue government hospitals but when they did not receive the needed support from the public, they re-strategized and fought for only their welfare. Today, the consultants are well paid but the masses bore the brunt of every treatment even in a dilapidated environment called hospital. For your information, ASUU did not go on strike because of IPPIS, the strike was already on before the issue of IPPIS came up as a distraction. ASUU went on strike to force the FG to honour an outstanding agreement already entered with FG since 2009. And to educate you more, it is pertinent to note that university education is not like any other ministry, it has its peculiarities. It is dynamic, what is invoke this year may be obsolete by next year. For example, in microbiology there are knew areas like forensic microbiology, bioenergy, molecular microbiology etc. All these specialty areas need experts in those areas that will teach the students. Being a novel area, a particular university may not have any lecturer trained in such area so they need to invite a professor who is an expert in such specialty area to be employed on an adjunct basis to teach those courses. If not, the students will not be able to compete favourably with those that have lecturers in those specialty areas. IPPIS does not recognize such arrangement and there is no how such professor would be paid for his services. In the University, final students defend their projects under the examination of an external examiner which must be paid for his services. IPPIS does not recognize this as well. These are two, out of many, shortcomings of IPPIS. To save the situation, the FG has asked ASUU to provide an alternative that can capture their peculiarities and this has been done. The software called UTAS is currently being tested by the FG.

I wrote the original article that slaughtered ASUU, and I can rubbish all you wrote here. But its not worth my time.

ASUU is all about money. Teaching at 2 or 3 universities, how many brains does a prof have? What time would they have for research, seminars, conferences, etc ?

When you teach at 3 unis, your time & concentration are divided. You would not give students sufficient time because you have to prepare for other unis. That is why our graduates are crap, because lecturers dont give their best.

This silly strike is all about Profs defending their cash cow. It is never about the students. IPPIS would instill discipline in the academia. Final.

Please Go and sleep.

onyeka205:
It is the statement of this natures which portrays the fact that students don't actually know the reason why ASUU is fighting, that made some ASUU members to begin to advise their national executive to now concentrate on only welfare of her members and forget all about other issues that concerns the students and parents such as University revitalization, visitation panel and increased university funding. The FG will be very happy if ASUU executives follow this directive. What it entails is that there will be introduction of tuition fees to the tune of #500,000 per student. The lecturers will be well paid but the tuition fees will compete with those of private universities and the population of students in private universities will increase tremendously. It will be a win-win for ASUU because there will be less number of students in public schools so the workload will reduce drastically. Moreover, there will be more opportunities for lecturers to bargain for more pay because less number of students will be able to afford up to #1.5 million that will be charged as a tuition fee for postgraduate studies, and there will be vacancy in most specialty areas of study. This will warrant bending the law to allow professors in those specialized areas to teach in more than two universities. Presently, the law permits a professor to teach in two universities (as adjunct staff) other than their parent universities. If the parents and students refuse to support ASUU to win this battle, the universities will be like FMCs where the patients provide everything for their treatment including hand gloves. The doctors were fighting like ASUU to rescue government hospitals but when they did not receive the needed support from the public, they re-strategized and fought for only their welfare. Today, the consultants are well paid but the masses bore the brunt of every treatment even in a dilapidated environment called hospital. For your information, ASUU did not go on strike because of IPPIS, the strike was already on before the issue of IPPIS came up as a distraction. ASUU went on strike to force the FG to honour an outstanding agreement already entered with FG since 2009. And to educate you more, it is pertinent to note that university education is not like any other ministry, it has its peculiarities. It is dynamic, what is invoke this year may be obsolete by next year. For example, in microbiology there are knew areas like forensic microbiology, bioenergy, molecular microbiology etc. All these specialty areas need experts in those areas that will teach the students. Being a novel area, a particular university may not have any lecturer trained in such area so they need to invite a professor who is an expert in such specialty area to be employed on an adjunct basis to teach those courses. If not, the students will not be able to compete favourably with those that have lecturers in those specialty areas. IPPIS does not recognize such arrangement and there is no how such professor would be paid for his services. In the University, final students defend their projects under the examination of an external examiner which must be paid for his services. IPPIS does not recognize this as well. These are two, out of many, shortcomings of IPPIS. To save the situation, the FG has asked ASUU to provide an alternative that can capture their peculiarities and this has been done. The software called UTAS is currently being tested by the FG.

You and the Profs in ASUU are not very rational.

When an Prof goes to another university to teach, which time is he using there?

Assume a prof is employed full time by Unilag for 40hrs per week, Mon to Friday, 8am-5pm. And he goes to Uniben as an Adjunct, he loses some hours at Unilag and spends it at Uniben. That means, he has not worked any extra to deserve more pay. He has simply worked some of his contracted hours at another varsity.

Why should he get full pay at Unilag, after losing hours and still earn pay at Uniben. I hope you see the fraud in the Adjunct scam. This adjunct profs nonsense is the reason Ph D holders are jobless.

My dear, go and sit down. IPPIS has come to stay.

Rupertek:
it is beautiful now because government have said, new people not previously registered in IPPS must come along with evidence of 6 months payment. This will checkmate VCs that has been employing people to cover up the ghost workers they have been paying

Good