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Foreign Affairs / Re: UK Parliament Approves Rwanda Deportation Bill by FiftyFifty(m): 10:03am On Apr 23
Botragelad:
Prime Minister Rishi Sunak has been a staunch advocate for this bill, asserting its necessity to halt the influx of migrants traversing the English Channel in diminutive vessels.
[b]The stance of Rwanda on this matter is secondary;

So, Rwanda's stance on this matter is secondary? Nothing this illegal migrant do will shock anybody anymore. But why not Israel?

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Politics / Re: Top 5 Ethnicities In The South East by FiftyFifty(m): 10:06pm On Apr 22
slivertongue:
"You've a disgusting hatred towards both Hausas and Fulanis or to say Islam, this is glaringly obvious. It's pathetic. Sorry."

"There are Hausas and Fulanis of other Faiths, and not all Muslims are Hausas or Fulanis."

Nobody is saying otherwise but when Hausa-Fulani is mention, the Muslims and not the people of other faiths among them comes to mind. Just like when you mention the Berom, the Sayawa, or Angas, the Muslims among them hardly come to mind. It's that simple.

"Dan Fodio was an ethnic purist as seen in his actions. His Jihad saw to the elimination of Hausa Kings and their household but elevated foreigners - his kinsmen to the traditional stool of another ethnic group."

I thought you know a little about the Jihad, it seems I'm wrong. Most of Hausa kings such as Bawa Jan Gwarzo and Muhammad Yumfa, were only Muslims by names. They were more into paganism (maguzanci) than practicing the true the Islam. Bori and other magical practices were the order of the day. As a citizen you do not have the right whatsoever as you and your property belongs to the king, even, sometimes, your wife. People were subjected to slavery (literally), a high tax, and all sorts of despotic rule. That was what Shehu Danfodio started preaching against but the Kings couldn't take it, an attempt to assassinate him by the then King of Gobir Muhammad Yumfa failed, and that was the beginning of the Jihad. Danfodio didn't bring Islam to the north but he had the credit of reforming it (Islam). Without his reform, Islam would probably have long been lost in Hausaland. This is one of the reasons why people like you will never like him. Danfodio appointed (or gave flag) to only 14 Emirs, what happened to the remaining towns and cities in the north and who were in charge? Still, even among the 14 emir's appointed, not all of them were Fulanis. The criterion of the appointment wasn't tribal but competence based on the knowledge of the religion (Islam) since as a King you're also a Judge, and to be a Judge you need to be learned in the Qur'an and Hadith, the two primary sources of Islamic law. That's why Mallam (meaning scholar was added to their names like Mallam Yakubu, Bauchi; Mallam Zaki, Katagum; Mallam Dan Ashafa, Gusau; Mallam Sambo, Hadejia, Mallam Dan Tunku, Kazaure etc). If it were purely tribal affairs, you'd have heard "Hardo" this or that and not "Mallam". Besides, there was no revolt against the appointments by the people whatsoever, in fact the appointees we're heartly welcomed. Furthermore, if Danfodio was a tribal "purist", he would have ensured that Fulfulde became the new lingua; or he'd have at least promoted Fulfulde over there languages, but that wasn't the case. Everyone was allowed to maintain his language. It may interest you to also know that Danfodio retired to his home after the Jihad and didn't take any appointment until his death. I can't believe you don't know all these. Not a rocket science, yeah, but still seems to be beyond your comprehension.

"... they effectively became indigenes of those areas after the Fulani Jihad."

Being indigenous and being in control of a kingdom are two different things. I expected you to tell me who were the original inhabitants of the places I earlier mentioned- Yola, Girei, Mayo-Belwa, Lamurde, Fufore, Mubi, and Gombi, among others.

No state in Nigeria can brag of having only one tribe, but among several tribes that make up the state, you find a particular tribe that form a majority if you take the population of every individual tribe into consideration. What makes Adamawa state different is what I'm yet to understand. There are tribes in Adamawa, just like in every state but which among them is more populous/larger than the Fulanis? Jukun? Lol. I think you're the one driving in circles.

"I also opined that the was no kingdoms ruled by Fulanis in 1600 and what existed was Kwararafa, Nupe and Kanem Bornu, and they had little or no Hausa and Fulani in their midst. If Fulanis didn't exist there and had no control of the affairs there, how come they have kingdoms in these places today?"

I can't believe you're saying this. Are Fulanis in control of Takum (Kwarrarafa or Maiduguri (Borno)? I've asked you this same question before. Jukunawa like Kanuri have their emirate system (if I can use that), and no Fulani had anything to do with it.

"Kwararafa went beyond Jukun land..."

This has never been my concern, so I don't give a damn about what Kwararrafa was and what it was not. All I know is that the Fulanis you people so much love to hate had nothing to do with it since "the Fulani Jihad didn't anoint a leader or set up an Emirates there" (to borrow from you).

On Gombe, as I pointed earlier, as long as the Christian minority didn't misuse the privilege like their brothers in Kaduna and Niger, the political harmony remains. Being a Fulani or not has never been an issue. We've gone beyond that.

If Hausa language is a precursor to taking over a land by the Muslims as you want us believe, there are indigenous Hausa Christians even in Kano, why have they not been taken over?

"They migrated into and dispersed in Africa..."

Assuming there are Arabs in this country, if one mention that they migrated from North Africa he may be right because everyone can see that the northern Africa is a home to the Arabs. In the case of Fulanis, how did they migrate all from North Africa, at the same time, in millions, and spread across northern Nigeria since there are no Fulanis in North Africa is what you still failed to tell us.

"If Hausawa refer to Hausa speakers, Bajari refers to Jarawa speakers, Angasawa refer to Ngas speakers etc how come Gobirawa, Bussawa, Dukawa, Zarma, Kambarri etc are refered to as a branch of Hausawa?"

Lol. Have you ever heard of Kanawa, Zazzagawa, Zamfarawa, Katsinawa, Daurawa, Katagumawa, Hadejiawa, etc? Do they speak any language different from Hausa? No. They all speak Hausa from time immemorial. Same thing with Gobirawa. You can't discuss the history of Hausa and Shehu Uthman Danfodio's Jihad without mentioning Gobirawa, and neither the Gobirawa nor anyone has ever said that they aren't Hausa, except you, today. The Hausas add "wa" after the people not after a language, that's why you have Jasawa, Gombawa, Yarbawa, Nupawa, etc. When they want to refer to a language what they add is "ci" like Nupanci, Yarbanci, Angasanci, Sayanci, etc. Surprised you do not know this.

"The folks from Zuru told me they have a mother tongue and they still speak it."

Anyone knows this and isn't peculiar to Zuru alone. But Gobirawa have always been Hausa. Ask.

"What I narrated above is the common experience of majority of the youths who have lost their ethnic identity because their parents don't speak their mother tongue at home or they themselves don't speak so as to be regarded as Hausa or are seeking for visibility within the national and national space."

And someone like you will, one day, accuse Hausa for "swallowing" their language. Lol

"What I have expected of you in this discourse is to put it to (me) that some parts of present day Northern Nigeria were coopted from Cameron Chad and Niger. Lumping some of this strange fellows together by the modern governance architecture of Nigeria... But like I said I am informed."

I expected you also to know that Nigeria was a creation of British colonial masters that the Muslim North never wanted to be part of. The British colonial masters after the Berlin conference of 1884-1885 balkanized Africa, tearing people apart, and bringing total strangers that have nothing in common together. Many northern Muslims will prefer to be associated with the Sokoto Caliphate than this contraption/concoction formed by the colonial masters and named by Lugard's mistress. How people seems to be oblivios of all these and accused the Fulanis at every slightest opportunity is beyond me, especially those who boldly and brazenly brag of being "informed".

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Politics / Re: Top 5 Ethnicities In The South East by FiftyFifty(m): 9:46pm On Apr 21
garfield1:


I thought tafawa balewa is dominated by Christian minorities like the sayyawas? Apart from the fulanis in Tarab vua,the mumuyes and ichens also have a huge population even more than the overbearing Jukuns who are mainly in wukari and takum.i though late Danfulani Suntai is Fulani?
In adamawa,I know bindowo isn't Fulani but sometimes identifies as one while nyarko is Fulani.i think the wife is a fhc judge.yari looks hausa while Sani yerima looks Fulani.

Tafawa Balewa LGA has 3 major towns, Lere, Bununu, and T/Balewa. Both Lere and Bununu are Muslim majority towns while T/Balewa is a Christian majority. Sayawa, Jarawa, and Fulani are among its major tribes. Overall, there are more Muslims than Christians in the whole of the Local Government. Same thing with Dass, the neighbouring LGA but with Jarawa than other tribes. Both Bindow and Nyako are Fulanis so also Nyako's wife Justice Binta. Suntai too was Fulani, infact his full name was Danbaba Dan-Fulani Suntai from Suntai in Bali LGA of Taraba State. Yaris is Hausa from T/Mafara, Yarima looks Fulani, I'm not sure. But then identifying who is Hausa and who is Fulani especially in the North West is not always easy. There has been an intertribal marriage between the two tribes for centuries. Hausas are typically dark and short while Fulanis are typically tall and fair. This is the general rule but like every general rule there's always an exception.

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Politics / Re: Top 5 Ethnicities In The South East by FiftyFifty(m): 10:58pm On Apr 20
garfield1:


Chai,I am learning a lot from you sir.ill love to meet you one day.ive always wanted to meet a Fulani with a large grasp of history of Nigeria.
Yes,I agree with you that Muslims slightly outnumber christians in taraba.i met a Fulani once who did the demographics for me and based on my calculations,I opened a thread about it on nairaland.in order to counter this,the Christian tribes usually unite under jukun hegemony to counter this including some minority Muslims.a simple calculus of Taraba shows that Muslims slightly outnumber Christians in the central and north of taraba.even in the south,Muslims are much in ibbi and ussa lgas.
I used to think dankwambo and goje are Hausa fulanis but I learnt that they are minority though they still identify as Hausa fulanis.i heard once that bala Mohammed is a minority,I know yuguda is minority.i don't know of adamu muazu though he looks kuje a fulani.i think nasir Idris the present kebbi gov is Hausa,i don't know where Dare or zamfara is from.umar namadi of jigawa looks hausa while Uba sani is Fulani same as Abba gida.i kbow shekarau is originally not from Kano same as abacha.tanko yakassai is from Taraba

It'll be nice meeting you too Sir, though I'm out of the country ATM.

Yes, Taraba is a Muslim majority state. That they produce two out of the three senators every election year says it all.

Goje and Dankwambo are neither Hausa nor Fulani. Yuguda is Fulani, Muazu too is Fulani from Boto, T/Balewa LGA. Bala is half Fulani from his mother's side and half Jarawa from his father's side, he is from Duguri, Alkaleri LGA. Tanko Yakasai is originally from Jimeta, Adamawa not Taraba. Abacha was Kanuri from Borno, his facial marks said it all. Both Abba and Ganduje are Fulani, Kwankwaso is Hausa. I don't know much about Dare and Nasir but they all look Fulani. Namadi is Hausa from Kafin Hausa.

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Politics / Re: Top 5 Ethnicities In The South East by FiftyFifty(m): 10:43pm On Apr 20
slivertongue:




First, I am of the North Central, Second, I speak Hausa, Third, I am an informed person, Fourth, I know the contentious issues in the inter group relations within my zone & region. Of course I don't expect you to accept it. Your rehearse of known tales doesn't take away my position and the facts.

I mentioned three kingdoms to portray to you that there were NO Fulani empire in there present places before Dan Fodio
to claim majority status. My area of focus are NC and NE, because one of the kingdom cover two zones. Can you state when the Emirate system led by Fulanis started? And before it started where there rulers and inhabitants in those places? I have dealt with Hausa language and it's use in 'Arewa mu' it was a trade language that swallowed other languages especially with arrival of Islam. Hausa language came before Islam.

Before Jesus and Mohammed, these communities existed. The question are; where there other religions there before the arrival of the big two and how old where they before the big two came into existence? how old is Islam as a religion? Is Islam older than Hausa language? Is Hausa and Fulani the first or earlier languages of peoples of today's garin Hausawa?

Hausa is spoken in native areas but not like in Hausanized areas. In igala land for example they preach with their native tongue in Churches and Mosques but once they are Hausanized, Hausa will supplant their native tongue and even the use of English language in worship places will disappear. In Birom land, Birom, English and Hausa are used in both Churches and Mosques. But if they are Hausanized, Hausa language takes over their native tongue than Islam sets in.

You rightly said religion is the first consideration for electing public officers in the North but that is in the Muslim North. In the Christian North, tribe and competence are the major considerations. Islam is not known to tolerate tribal lines. Some Northern People submit to the religion to gain visibility but others have rejected it and are holding on to their identity thus their exclusion...

In Adamawa the natives of both religions are doing a collaboration, because the division amongst them in the past aided the narratives that Fulanis control, dominate or own them, same in Taraba. I have refused to mix three variables together, Hausa, Islam and Fulani. They are different and are to be interrogated independently before drawing up a conclusion. But you are using Islam for all, some use Fulani for the three.

I won't get into the political dynamics in Taraba, Kaduna, Niger, Kwara the attempted attempt in Gombe. Sadly, I know the world map. I know where Sudan is and where Niger is. Tripoli route is a trade route, am sure you know that route, I also know you know there are Hausa speakers on that route some of the migrants from that route have already attained great heights in this country. 'Borno was the southern terminus of the trade route coming from Tripoli' - THE ROUTE.

Fulani's are said to have descended from amongst the Arabs of Middle East. Some of them claim the Buzus are another of them with a variant tongue, even the nomad 'cluster' in the East Africa are said to be another variant of the same group. What many Southerners refer to Fulanis are sometimes Buzus and the Fulanis have also alluded to this.

I won't also bother myself with POLITICAL and ECONOMIC Fulanis.

This seems to be your best attempt so far in this discourse but even this isn't without its deficiencies. If truly you're from the NC you should know some of the points I raised even if my "known tales" will not change your "position".

Check my earlier post on Kwararrafa, Nupe, and Kanem Bornu, I pointed out earlier that there was no trace of Fulanis in those kingdoms, I don't know what brought about claiming "majority status". I maintained that the Kwararrafa was the Jukun part of Taraba and Benue, has anybody to this very day told you otherwise? The Wiki referred to Yola the capital of Adamawa state as "the capital of a Fulani state until it was taken over by the British in 1901." Who were the original inhabitants of Fufore, Girei, Gombi, Lamurde, Mayo-Belwa, and Mubi (both north and south), among others? Jukun, maybe. If your problem is with reducing the influence of Kwararrafa (Jukun) Gowon, not Danfodio should be blamed for introducing state system in Nigeria in 1967. You did say that you speak Hausa but that "Arewa mu" and "garin Hausa" are, with due respect, saying otherwise. Sorry.

Kwararrafa comprised largely of some parts of Taraba and Benue but the Adamawa Emirate founded by Modibbo Adama in the 1800s "spanned about forty thousand square miles that covered parts of northeastern Nigeria, entire northern Cameroon, and parts of Central African Republic." (Wiki) So between Kwararrafa and Adamawa which one needs to claim "majority status" (to borrow from you)?

Is good seeing you saying, correctly this time around, that "Hausa language came first before Islam". This debunked your earlier assertion eventhough you now introduced "Hausanised" again. Lol

If you want to quote me, do so correctly pls, I didn't say religion is the first consideration for electing public officers in the north, and I also didn't make a sweeping generalisation, I said "in most parts of the North". Check. You cleverly smuggled in competence as a yardstick in electing officials in the Christian north, but what we've seen so far especially with Ortom, Darius, and even Lalong suggests otherwise. I don't know what you mean by the "attempted attempt in Gombe", it may be another fallacious assumption.

You're yet to convince us that Fulanis truly migrated from North Africa. And you want to bring Buzus again into the discourse. Lol

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Politics / Re: Top Five Largest Ethnicities In The North West by FiftyFifty(m): 11:37am On Apr 20
oyatz:


Bros, in Yobe State, Fulanis are dominant in Jajere ,a small rural town under Fune LGA.

However, FUNE LGA is a mixture of Kanuri, Fulani, Kare-Kare and Ngozism.

Yusufari and Yinusari LGAs are Kanuri dominated with dispersed Fulani settlements.

The main Fulani dominated towns in Yobe are Jajere, Mashio-Fulani, Tarmuwa and to some extent Ngelzarma.


Thank you for the correction.
Politics / Re: Top 5 Ethnicities In The South East by FiftyFifty(m): 11:35am On Apr 20
slivertongue:



Hausa is widely spoken in the North that I mentioned but not all Northerners understand or speak Hausa especially in states like Kogi, Benue and Kwara. Hausa speakers are now more amongst the natives especially those who lost their tongues at the advent of their interactions with Hausa traders in the early centuries. Hausa language is 'swallowing up the tongues' of natives speakers especially amongst Muslims because that is the language of propagation and interaction amongst Muslims in most of Northern Nigeria.

The Hausa tribe is an ethnic group that lives in the northwestern region of Nigeria and the southern region of Niger. The Hausa people migrated from Sudan. The Hausas established some strong states in Niger. The powers in that region had declined in the previous centuries, and with the addition of the Hausas in that area, they soon emerged as the new power. Most Hausas are devote Muslims. The Hausa people are known for their trading locally and long distance. Borno was the southern terminus of the trade route coming from Tripoli - the route.

Today is jummat, 97% of mosques will use Hausa language to preach but same can't be said amongst other adherents because they retain their tongues even when married to another ethnic group from the North. It is this situation that makes most Southerners to think that most people in the North are Hausas. Trade and religion pushed up Hausa language and it swallowed others, the native tongues that were swallowed or wiped out are Muslim dominated and those still standing or still mixed are majorly of another Faith.

In this can be found the reasons for the attempts by invaders to grab the lands of natives so as to subject them to their ways of life. Benue and Kogi states are the only state in the North without Hausa and Fulani claiming nativity there. If any tribe there is Hausanized the invaders will hide behind them to settle there permanently and claim nativity of that area, only to turn around to dominate the Hausanized people. Fulanis hide behind 'Hausa' people to invade and claim indigeneship. Most of the attacks on Central highlands and the adjoining low lands is an attempt to Hausanize them so as to claim indigeneship rights there.

The Fulani people came from North Africa and settled in Central and West Africa from there they dispersed to various directions. They were not indigenous to this country. The Hausa–Fulani identity (a political identity) came into being as a direct result of the migration of Fulani people into Hausaland in the 14th century and their cultural assimilation into the Hausa society. The Hausa population is much larger but some Fulanis positioned themselves as the ruling class among the Hausas.

Fulanis were constant visitors to Nigeria as they are today, they bring in their cattle to graze into Nigeria during the dry season and return to their roots when the rain sets in. They paid jangoli tax to the rulers of the North. The Fulanis back then complained of the tax burden and sometimes resisted it. It was in this State of things that an itinerant preacher - Usman Dan fodio appeared on the scene and took advantage of the 'oppressive, corrupt and disunity amongst Hausa rulers to launch a religious crusade in the guise of propagating clean Islam or true worship of God but his agenda was to secure his kinsmen from the Hausa rulers. The Hausa commoners believed him and gave him the support to fight their rulers. He overthrew them with the help of the commoners but replaced the Hausa rulers with Fulani invaders and the new rulers started their own oppression till date.

The Fulanis had no control of any empire or kingdoms in North Central or North East as at 1600. What was dominant was Nupe, Kwararafa and Kanem Bornu and the Fulanis, and to a large extent Hausas weren't part of these kingdoms. It was Dan Fodio's crusade that formal placed Fulanis as the rulers of some communities though before the crusade there were reports of raids on communities in an attempt to grab their land.

Fulanis are found across the states of the North East but they have no dominant control of any State. A pointer is their struggle to lead Gombe and Adamawa, they can't be majority (apologies to Wiki) yet failing to produce governor, deputy and sometimes Speaker and deputy back to back. In these States the national elites are Fula because of aristocratic influence but at the grassroots lay the real owners of the communities. There are also political and economic Fulanis but I won't delve into that.

Hausa language and culture is unique I must say, an encounter with the language can tamper with ones identity. Eg Former Senate President - Ahmed lawal, is Karekare from Yobe State but I doubt his language is a mainstay in his house and if Hausa swallows his tongue tomorrow it will be written that Karekare is a branch of Hausa. His none Muslim kinsmen still speak their tongue along side Hausa language. Goje and Dankwambo are also non Hausas but I doubt their mother tongues are prevalent in their homes. The above scenerio is very common in the North West.
The way you talk, I doubt if you've ever been to the North, the core-north. You use the data from Wiki when it suits you and when it doesn't you tender an "apology to wiki".

So Hausas migrated from Sudan but the same Sudanese speak Arabic. The few Hausas there found themselves there due to the journey to Mecca for pilgrimage.
You alo said the Hausas came through "Tripoli route" If you are coming to any part of Nigeria from Sudan you have no business with Tripoli which is far north, you head westward pass Chad and you're in Nigeria. Geography is added to your problems after history.
Churches in plateau uses Hausa in their service just like I told you that the Birom people uses Hausa language even among themselves. You don't know all these you're here presenting yourself as an authority in a subject you're obviously oblivious of.

Kanem Bornu is in the south of Hausaland? Lol. This is embarassing to you, wallahi. Kanem Bornu is in the east, take note.

You shy away from a answering this simplest question: Before Islam came to Hausaland, what what was the language of the original inhabitants of Kano, Zazzau, Katsina, Daura, Kazaure, Gumel, Gusau, Gobir, Rano, and Mafara among others? Waiting for your answer.

The Fulanis, you said, came to Nigeria from North Africa, how come there's no any country in northern Africa that speaks Fulfulde, or they just decided to migrate all at once, and in millions?

Nupe people are largely in Niger, Kwara, and Kogi states; Kwararrafa is the Jukun side of Taraba and Benue states; Kanem Bornu was Borno, and some parts of Yobe states; there was never the trace of Kanuri, Jukun, and Nupe in Adamawa so who was the inhabitants of Adamawa, or it was just a plain land?

Politics in Nigeria comes with its peculiar intricacies, it is not always a determining factor in this regard. Late Abu Hashidu was a Governor in Gombe in 1999, he was Fulani. Inuwa Yahaya, the current Governor is also Fulani. Gombe, like some states in the North has a negligible percentage of indigenous Christians, there's therefore an unwritten agreement to always give them a Deputy Governor's slot except where they misuse the gesture and provoke the Muslims like in Niger and Kaduna that's where they will lose that opportunity since the Muslims can win any election without them. In Gombe, just like in Adamawa the relationship between the two faith is cordial, so? This further exposes your ignorance about the north and its politics. Another example is Taraba which is a Muslim majority state (I know you'll argue but try and have a heart-to-heart discussion with anybody from Taraba and he'll tell you), another pointer is that from 1999 to date, two out of the three senators representing the date in Abuja have always been Muslims. That tells you all you need to know. Why they are not been governors is a topic for another day. Also, from 1999 to date all the governors in Bauchi state came from one senatorial zone, is Bauchi south senatorial zone more populous than the northern and central zones? Still, consider this points, Jonathan is from Ijaw tribe, is Ijaw among the major tribes in Nigeria? In the recent elections, Tinubu lost to Peter Obi in Lagos, does Lagos belongs to the Igbos? Same Tinubu lost to Atiku in Osun, yes Osun, not Adamawa. What is this telling you? Northerners pay more attention to religion than tribe. That's the reason they voted for Abiola in 1993 and Tinubu in 2023. If you're a Muslim, you can easily contest and win an election in most parts of the North. Shekarau governed Kano for 8 years, he was a minister and a senator but he is originally from Borno. The immediate Governor of Bauchi M A Abubakar is from Kogi. I can go on.

There is no point educating you about Shehu Uthman Danfodio. If you lack a basic comprehension of a simple geographical and historical issues, I doubt if you can understand that one.

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Foreign Affairs / Re: Why Is Nobody Talking About Congo DRC Vs Rwanda War? by FiftyFifty(m): 6:01pm On Apr 19
Nobody is praying for Congo, nobody is talking about Sudan, no one remembers the war in Ethiopia, same with Rwanda, Somalia, and Uganda, among others. Many Africans and Nigerians in particular, are programmed to stand for others while their home is on fire. Colonialism and imperialism is still here with us but this time we're the ones enforcing it upon ourselves. We are being constantly reminded of Hitler's atrocities to the Jews but no one is reminding us about the Belgian King Leopold's attrocities on Africans which was worse. And the tragedy of a Blackman is that when you want to fight for his right you need to use only one hand, for you'll need the other hand to protect yourself from same Blackman that will certainly fight you. It's sad.

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Politics / Re: Top 5 Ethnicities In The South East by FiftyFifty(m): 9:25pm On Apr 18
slivertongue:


Fulanis were visitors in northern NIGERIA before Dan fodio's jihad made them indigenes up to Ilorin. Nupe, kwararafa and kanem Borno existed long the Fulani invasion and Islam was practiced there. These kingdoms were neither Hausa nor fulani but today the story is different. North Central Hass been able to retain it's native identity largely because it doesn't share border with trans Sahara trade routes.

You seem to like talking without saying anything. How's the story different in the Nupe, Kwararrafa, and Kanem Bornu while they've neither been Hausa nor Fulani to this very day? Did you see anybody mentioning them among the Hausa-Fulani? Certainly no. So what's exactly your point? You may be shocked to know that the Birom in Plateau state uses Hausa even among themselves. Did anybody force them?

You didn't tell us from which Tripoli the Hausas came from and you're now shifting the goal-post again... Tell us where did the Fulanis came from and spread across northern Nigeria especially the North-east? If you must comment in a public forum you ought to have done your home work properly. You can only mislead some of the people, not all the people. If this were exam, you've failed and failed woefully.

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Politics / Re: Top 5 Ethnicities In The South East by FiftyFifty(m): 7:52pm On Apr 18
ImmaculateJOE:

How is Fulani the majority tribe in Adamawa..?

Nyako will be the first and last person to govern Adamawa state..

You aren't saying anything here. Maybe you're typing under the influence... Lol

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Politics / Re: Top 5 Ethnicities In The South East by FiftyFifty(m): 7:44pm On Apr 18
slivertongue:


Ethnic communities existed in the North before Hausa traders reached the North in the early centuries and settled there. Hausa is a trader language while Fulfulde is an invaders language. Islam in Nigeria greatly relied on Hausa language because those traders who came through the Tripoli route were Muslims and spoke Hausa. Most Southerners like the Op believe everything taught to in GST class or read in some revisionist text books.

You've a disgusting hatred towards both Hausas and Fulanis or to say Islam, this is glaringly obvious. It's pathetic. Sorry.

So, the Hausas came from Tripoli (There are two Tripoli by the way, one in Libya and the other in Lebanon, both countries speak Arabic, not Hausa. So?) Who were the original inhabitants of Kasar Hausa like the one in Kano, Rano, Katsina, Zazzau (Zaria), Daura, Kazaure, Gobir, Gusau, and Kauran Namoda, among others? Have you ever heard of Bagauda, Bayajidda, Bawa Jan Gwarzo, and Queen Amina of Zazzau?

I don't know what you mean by "Fulfulde is an invaders language" but if you don't know that there were indigenous Fulanis in Adamawa, Taraba, Bauchi, Jigawa, Kebbi, Sokoto, and Zamfara, among others, then I'm afraid you're not the person you desperately want us to believe you are.

Honestly, I don't know where you got this mis-information from, that you believe
and attempt to propagate them is even more surprising.

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Politics / Re: Top 5 Ethnicities In The South East by FiftyFifty(m): 6:34pm On Apr 18
successmatters:


They said that Fulani's are less than 1.5m in Nigeria? Do you believe that?

Not even a madman will believe that virtuperation.

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Politics / Re: Top 5 Ethnicities In The South East by FiftyFifty(m): 6:32pm On Apr 18
slivertongue:


The issue with you is that you argue what you have little knowledge about. Adamawa is a non fulani state though they may have the top elites but the population are non fulani. Gombe State is same

What's really your problem with the Fulanis and the Hausas too, if I may ask? If Adamawa is a "non Fulani state" which state then is?

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Politics / Re: Top 5 Ethnicities In The South East by FiftyFifty(m): 6:27pm On Apr 18
slivertongue:


see reasoning abeg. Adamawa is a fulani name but the inhabitants are outrightly native people. fulanis are spread across Central and Northern Gombe but there are other ethnic groups there

Lol. The name Adamawa itself originated from Modibbo Adama, who was a Fulani. Agreed there are other tribes just like virtually every state but still the Fulanis are the majority. Fulfulde is the language of communication in most parts of the state. Even the Igbos doing business there learn and communicate with it.

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Politics / Re: Top 5 Ethnicities In The South East by FiftyFifty(m): 6:19pm On Apr 18
successmatters:


Fulani are minority in every state, just less than 1.5 million people in Nigeria. The population of the smallest local government in Oyo state is bigger than all the whole Fulani people.

Lol. You need to start travelling then to learn and unlearn many things...

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Politics / Re: Top 5 Ethnicities In The South East by FiftyFifty(m): 6:17pm On Apr 18
slivertongue:


remove Adamawa. Gombe ain't really true

Lol. This guy, I don't know what we've done to you. In the other thread your problem was with the Hausas and here is with the Fulanis.

He has simply stated the fact. Surprised that you don't know this.

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Politics / Re: Top Five Largest Ethnicities In The North West by FiftyFifty(m): 9:20pm On Apr 16
DOptical:


Only dumb fools equate tout to agberos 😂

You're yet to answer my question, what did murderous criminal fool Uthman Dan fodio invent till he died a senile death, according to Clapperton?

Calling you tout or agbero is being charitable kiddo, you're worst than that, by far. Shehu Danfodio died a natural death at the age of 62 at his home in Sokoto. How can a person who died at 62 be senile? The Clapperton you so much love to hype was captured, arrested, and detained by the Fulanis in Sokoto where mosquitoes bite and diphtheria led to his early death at just 38. So what's so spectacular about him that you kept ranting uncontrollably about him? Did you now see how mentioning Clapperton exposes your emptiness, dumbness and shallow-mindedness?
I repeat, Danfodio is greater than any member of your tribe dead or alive and those that may be unluckily born in the future.

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Politics / Re: Top Five Largest Ethnicities In The North West by FiftyFifty(m): 6:22pm On Apr 16
DOptical:


It's called lout, not tout. Typical. Two Core Northerners disgracing themselves

Everyone knows what tout and lout means. In the Nigerian parlance a tout is akin to an agbero and honestly you're worse than agbero, by far. I repeat, a pair of Danfodio's shoe is greater than you and your likes, dead or alive. Clapperton Report has exposed your emptiness and shallow-mindedness. Pity.

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Politics / Re: Top Five Largest Ethnicities In The North West by FiftyFifty(m): 4:59pm On Apr 16
garfield1:


Is Ahmed aliyu Hausa or Fulani? I know wamakko,tambuwal are fulanis while bafarawa is hausa

He's likely Hausa

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Politics / Re: Top Five Largest Ethnicities In The North West by FiftyFifty(m): 4:51pm On Apr 16
slivertongue:


no. Don't be deceived by some of what you have on the net. they may have lost their tongue to Hausa but they have a tongue and facial mark as identity . They are called gwogobiri for male and gwogobara female. There are also Bussawa, Dukawa, Gungawa, Kambari, Zarma, Dakarkari. These ethnic groups ain't originally hausas, but now hausa speakers.

Don't be deceived too bro. Gobir and Gobirawa have always been Hausa. You can't talk of Hausa historically without mentioning the famous King of Gobir, Bawa Jan Gwarzo. Hausa like every other language has different accents that's why the Hausa in Zamfara and Kano slightly differ. It's common with Yoruba, Igbo and Fulfulde.

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Politics / Re: Top Five Largest Ethnicities In The North West by FiftyFifty(m): 4:40pm On Apr 16
garfield1:

No mind that misguided tout.it seems fulanis dominate sokoto

Lol. Misguided tout is being charitable to him shaa. Yeah

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Politics / Re: Top Five Largest Ethnicities In The North West by FiftyFifty(m): 3:38pm On Apr 16
Dsimmer:


All are Hausa community. Or you've thought we've forgotten how the murderous criminal Uthman Dan fodio came to the Hausa land in in 1880's?

You unintelligently asked of a local govt' bearing Fulani name and now you're shamelessly shifting the post again. Why do you like roaming around confusedly like a headless chicken? Only a swaggering incompetent brainless baboon does that. Well, Uthman Danfodio's left bathroom slipper is far greater than all the members of your tribe dead or alive and those that will be unluckily born in the future.

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Politics / Re: Top Five Largest Ethnicities In The North West by FiftyFifty(m): 3:24pm On Apr 16
Dsimmer:


In your delusional head.

Ode, name the local government which is in Fulani name or shut your unintelligent brain.

Asking this glaringly unintelligent question tells everything about you IQ level.

Aleiro
Dukku
Funakaye
Fune
Jajere
Yusufari
Yunusari
Mayo Belwa
Karim Lamido
Jalingo
Jama'are
Fufore
Girei
Bali
Gassol
Sardauna
Akko
Toro
Darazo
Misau
Tambuwal
Issa
Ibbi
Kalgo
Bodinga
Goronyo
Shagari
Wamakko
Bagudu
Yauri
Are some of the local govt' areas that quickly came to my mind. They're spread across the North. I'm also Fulani. So?

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Foreign Affairs / Re: Israel Chickens Out , Calls Off "Retalaitory" Strike On Iran by FiftyFifty(m): 2:54pm On Apr 16
This is a deterrence win for Iran.

Had Israel been taken by surprise and not had the days long preparation to mitigate the impact of an Iranian attack this large, the damage would have been huge.

There is no way Israel could have intercepted hundreds of Iranian missiles without a week of its allies putting defenses in place and Iran intentionally taking its time.

A real war would NOT be telegraphed in advance so Israel can prepare with a symphony of air defenses from its allies.

Also, you can't win a war where you have to spend $5 billion a day on missile defence.

Biden understands the risks posed by further escalation, especially to US forces, which is why he told Netanyahu he will not back an Israeli counterstrike.

That Israel is the one approaching the UN this time around calling for more sanctions on Iran tells you something, if not everything.

The equation in the region has changed and Iran did it masterfully and responsibly without igniting the big war.

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Foreign Affairs / Re: Israel Chickens Out , Calls Off "Retalaitory" Strike On Iran by FiftyFifty(m): 2:35pm On Apr 16
Interesting thread...

That the Iranian missiles could cover 2,500km and reached the target (Isreal) despite the prior notice and attempts by six countries to intercept them, is itself a victory. The message was simple, we can hit you if we really want to. The US saw the danger that's why they called Bibi to order. Without the US, Isreal can't lift a finger thats why Bibi is now in limbo. One-on-one Israel can't defeat Iran. The US armed Iraq to the teeth to fight Iran for 8 years, what happened at the end?

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Religion / Re: Preacher Stabbed While Delivering Sermon In Sydney Church(photos) by FiftyFifty(m): 5:36pm On Apr 15
@Botragelad you're a notorious dirty jew who walks around confusedly like a headless chicken dishing out cheap unintelligent propaganda. The perpetrator of this heinous crime is Christian, just like the one that happened two days back. You should bury yourself in shame, if you've any.

BTW, Bibi has gone AWOL since the sleepy Joe told him that he's in his own if he dares attack Iran, that the US will not protect the illegal settlements called Israel as she always do.
Foreign Affairs / Re: If Israel Is So Powerful, Why Do They Need USA, UK, EU To Stop Iranian Missiles? by FiftyFifty(m): 2:07pm On Apr 15
That the Iranian drones and missiles could cover 2,500km and reached Isreal despite attempts by the US, SA, France, and Jordan to intercept them, is itself a victory. Israel has always been nothing without its western allies. Is it not surprising that after 7 months of relentless bombardment in Gaza the Hamas Bibi pompously promised to obliterate is still standing? One-on-one the IDF can't defeat Hamas, not to talk of Iran. Now that the sleepy Joe has told Bibi that he is on his own if he dares attact Iran, the shameless pompous Bibi quickly ran to the UN asking her to condemnt "the Iranian aggression", the same UN he always disregard.

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Foreign Affairs / Re: Americans Mock Joe Biden For Condemning Iran Attack On Israel (Pics) by FiftyFifty(m): 11:45am On Apr 15
Blossomcresty:


So we should take all this Twitter post serious?

One thing I have noticed with many anti- Israelis is they will pick post/comment from anywhere just to prove a point against Israel.

You can't be more American than the Americans themselves. This is one reason people like you should be avoided when it comes to a geopolitical discourse. You can't see beyond your nose. Pity.
Foreign Affairs / Re: Americans Mock Joe Biden For Condemning Iran Attack On Israel (Pics) by FiftyFifty(m): 10:45am On Apr 15
Some gullible and bigot Nigerians trying desperately to be more Jews than the real Jews themselves will tell you otherwise. I saw a video of Trump rally where he called the sleepy Joe "a genocidal". Some Nigerians myopically think that illegal settlements backed by the US imperialism is the same as the Israel in their Bible. They're bunch of ignorant clowns that shouldn't be allowed to wade into any geopolitical discuss even on NL. They brag of being educated but when you engage them all you can see is their emptiness and shallow-mindedness.

See again what the American Christians are saying on this same topic.

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Foreign Affairs / Re: Joel Cauchi: Sydney Mall Stabbing Suspect Identified By Police (Pics) by FiftyFifty(m): 5:57pm On Apr 14
shoodboi2:
Clownmaster botragelad 🤡 and his flying circus are hiding under their bed
Botragelad, why are you not posting about Iran's disciplinary action against Israel. What's wrong? 😂

Botragelad is just another shameless dirty jew that roam around confusedly like a headless chicken. No reasonable person should take him serious. Calling him clwnmaster is putting it mildly. He is worse, by far.

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Islam for Muslims / Re: Can Someone From The North Explain The Conflicts With Shiites? by FiftyFifty(m): 9:16am On Apr 14
Goodlady:

If I reply you, you for go hug transformer or buy sniper. I no wan get blood for hand

What about the ones you've infected with HIV?
Islam for Muslims / Re: Can Someone From The North Explain The Conflicts With Shiites? by FiftyFifty(m): 9:14am On Apr 14
Goodlady:

You just described ya mama o!
Na HIV dey worry her!
Eat pad.

It seems you don't have a life outside NL, not surprised shaa as nobody wants to be associated with a colossal failure, a cheap, poor, dirty, and obviously sick ashawao whose life defends on drugs. Tell that useless woman you call mama that is sleeping under the bridge to tell you who cursed your family tree since you don't have a legitimate father.

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