₦airaland Forum

bro4u:
Mumu,, even if he is a Christian,z he didn't yell ' Jesus is Lord' unlike some people who praise their Allah.. is this even comparable or u just wan talk

This your analogy doesn't make a slightest sense. Wether or not a Muslim says Allahu Akbar it doesn't matter as long as he is a Muslim he will simply be termed terrorist. Some of the attacks by the so-called ISIS are carried out by the non-muslims. You should be intelligent enough to know this.

BTW: Jesus has never called himself Lord, so stop the blasphemy.

AnyanwuSK:
Islam is a mental problem suffered by Muslims

Says a swaggering incompetent brainless baboon. Stop making a caricature of your empty self publicly, kiddo.

mytime24:
Sharia law is for d poor

Sharia'ah doesn't apply to a non-muslim like the two Xtians in this case.

Bluntemperor:
Rubbish, Rubbish and Nonsense!
You are free for your opinion,but you can do better,if you are in his Position then,for his greed destroyed him, because he single handedly Annulled the Most Free and Fair Elections of June 12,2993,which eventually put the whole Nigeria into abbyss - that the whole World turned itself against the Country called Nigeria.
To worsen things,many Nigerians die, due to various Protest, that he should leave the System,he eventually handed the Nigerian State to Abacha,the Dictator.
Why did he ran to Abuja,under the Pretense ' I stepped aside ' if he was doing the right thing! He was just like other African dictator and till date he never apologized for his SAP and SFEM,he forced on Nigeria.That was the beginning of how the NAIRA summersulted - where things went awry.Indeed,he was an' Evil Genius,'
Whom did he gave Accoutability of the Money Spent to on all that you said he did above Or why are we at loggerhead with the today Politicians,since they don't want to be Accountable too.
Anyway,he hates Democracy and was never pretended about it or do you know NBILLIONS of Money Spent,for years, always given excuses to hand over?
I beg park, It's the People like you that will altered the Nigerian History because of token and what you want to eat.
Your IBB should continue to rest and enjoy himself,as Nigeria will continue to move forward and everyone Roles,will History remember,Good Or Bad!

Be coherent enough, what are you desperately trying, albeit unsuccessfully, to say, kiddo? IBB has his shortcomings, we all do have, but he still remain far better than all the so-called democratic governments Nigeria unfortunately had from 1999 to date. The catastrophic Tinubu's one year alone is far worse than the IBB's 8 years...

FYI, not everyone sell his conscience for a slice of bread.

Happy Birthday to the Nigeria's finest Head of State. His administration is much better than all the civilian administration Nigeria witnessed from 1999 to date.

- He created Yobe state,
- He created Katsina state,
- He created Taraba state,
- He created Jigawa state,
- He created Kebbi state
- He created Enugu state,
- He created Edo state,
- He created Delta state,
- He created Osun state.
- He created Akwa Ibom state,

- He created Federal Road Safety Corps

- He created State Security Service (SSS)
- He created National Intelligence Agency (NIA)
- He created Defence Intelligence Agency (DIA).

- He built Asorock Villa.

- He built Third Mainland Bridge, the largest bridge on the continent at the time.

- He completed the Shiroro Hydroelectric Power Station.

- He constructed Toja Bridge in Kebbi.

- He created the Jibia Water Treatment Plant.

-He built Challawa Cenga Dam in Kano.

- Kano - Abuja Dual Carriageway FCT, Abuja.
- Dam in Kano Others includes:

1. ECOWAS Headquarters Secretariat Abuja.

2. He constructed International Conference Centre Abuja.

3. Constructed FHA Estates Nationwide.

4. Constructed High Court Buildings in the States.

5. Constructed Fed Secretariat in 36 States/Abuja.

6. Constructed 2 Political Party Office in 36 States.

7. Constructed the 4 Divisional Headquarters, Nigeria Army.

8. Constructed Military Barracks in Abuja.

9. Constructed Army School of Armour Bauchi.

10. Nigeria Army Amphibious school Calabar.

11. Constructed Quarters for the 4 GOCs

12. Constructed Nigerian Navy Dockyard.

13. Constructed Nigeria Dockyard Snake Island.

14. Constructed Estate for workers of Federal Ministry of Works Housing & FMWH) Nationwide + FCT & Gwagwalada.

15. Constructed Site & SVC’s Satellite towns of 20. Constructed Federal Supreme
Isheri, Lagos, Gwagwalada, Abuja, Prototype Housing Schemes.

16. Constructed FEPA Hdqrt, Abuja.

17. FEPA Zonal Offices Nationwide & Central Laboratory, Yaba Lagos.

18. Constructed National Eye Centre, Kaduna.

19. Aluminium Smelter Company Ikot Abasi.

20. Constructed Federal Supreme Court, Abuja.

21. Constructed the Ajaokuta Steel Project Engineering Works.

22. Constructed Abuja International Airport Phase 1&2.

23. Constructed the National Assembly Abuja.

24. Constructed the Presidential Villa Abuja.

25. National Intelligence Agency(NIA) Headquarters.

26. State Security Services(SSS) Abuja.

27. Constructed Federal Mortgage Bank Hqrtr, Lagos.

29. Federal Mortgage Bank branches nationwide.

30. Constructed CBN Headquarters Abuja.

31. Security & Minting Hdqters Abuja.

32. Constructed Jabi District Abuja.

33. Abuja Central Area Phase 1&2.

34. Constructed Asokoro Area.

35. Constructed Secretariat Buildings for States created in 1991.

36. Houses of Assembly Complex for each States created in 1991.

37. Judiciary Buildings for States created in 1991.

38. Constructed Maitama Gen Hospital Abuja.

39. Wuse Gen Hospital Abuja.

40. State House Hospital Abuja.

41. National Hospital in the States.

42. Gusau Water Supply Scheme.

43. Asokoro Water Supply.

44. Kubwa Water Supply.

45. Abuja Municipal Water supply.

46. Gboko-Yandev Water Works.

47. Boreholes for 1004 Housing.

*And one school of thought will want me to believe that the worst civilian rule is better than the best military regime.*

He did all these in 8 years, paid fuel subsidy, maintained a good dollar to Naira exchange and paid pension/ salary to workers.

But after 25 years of democracy, we are a disaster and worst of as a nation!

sexiestharam:
Christians are too quiet!.

Docile is the appropriate word, not quite. Why Christians team up with the Jews to make a mockery of Christianity is what most people can't understand.

Pootle:
rubbish.... imagine it was our jihad brothers like 3 unexplained explosion could have happen, and i guess this to appease a huge population of islamabad origins

Jews and Christians came together and ridiculed Christianity, why do you have to bring Muslims into this?

Samoa Agreement or not, one thing is certain that Tinubu is the worst President in the history of Nigeria, if not Africa. The man was highly overrated and his cluelessness is beyond words. He can't point to one single (positive) thing he managed to achieve over a year in office an he now wants be a clueless dictator.

One of the Abuja roads should be named after Abubakar Imam too.

Nigerian Christians, yes. The rest of the world, no. South Africa, Venuzuela, Brazil, Spain, Portugal, Norway, Ireland, are all Christian countries and they do not support Israel on this genocide. Even countries such as France and Germany have indicated their willingness to comply with the ICC arrest warrant on Netanyahu. The UN voted overwhelmingly in support of Palestine. Students across the US, the UK, the Netherlands and universities around the world have shown their support for the Palestinians. Activists around the world have continued to also show their support for the Palestinian people. But most Nigerian Christians are too lazy to think on their own and see things as they are. Travel to the Israel you people are dying to defend and see how shitty those jews will treat you. That's the reason most of you become shock and quickly learn and unlearn many things as soon as you left Nigeria. The truth is that most Nigerian Christians are ignor@nt without knowing it, not only on Israel-Palestine issue but on many other different issues. Engage them in a simple geopolitical discussion and see their emptiness. The history of Israel-Palestine conflict didn't start on October the 7th, something many chose to ignore.

Did the minister misunderstand the speaker?

By Ibraheem Dooba

(My column of today in the DailyTrust)

A man was kidnapped in Niger State by bandits who demanded a ransom of one million naira. The family scraped and struggled to pay the ransom. When the bandits got the ransom, they increased it to N2 million. Now the family couldn’t pay. What to do?

The man had two daughters with suitors. So they asked the fiancés to bring money to pay the ransom so that the marriage could be done upon the release of the father. The two suitors managed to raise the money and the family paid the bandits. Upon receiving the money, they still killed the father.

Now the suitors wanted marriage without delay or their money back. However, the family needed money to do so. So the widow reached out to the speaker of Niger State Assembly, Abdulmalik Sarkin Daji, for help. He did help them with the marriage and set them up for success.

Then he reasoned that other orphans may need similar assistance. So he set up a committee to investigate identical cases. The committee reported over 270 people who needed the same support. So he mandated the committee to screen the list to only orphans and need basis. The list was reduced to 100 orphans who voluntarily submitted themselves that they wanted marriage.

So the speaker agreed to give each lady N500,000 and the men N50,000 for their dowry. When the Governor of Niger State, Farmer Governor Bago heard about this, he said was going to give the ladies an additional N100,000 for business.

That’s the background. At least that’s how Dr Ibrahim Daurawa told the story as related to him by the speaker himself.

Here’s a summary: The Speaker of Niger State House of Assembly, Rt. Hon Abdulmalik Sarkin Daji, with the support of the Governor, the traditional institution and Muslim scholars, is sponsoring the wedding and businesses of 100 orphans.

But out of nowhere, we read, “Uju Kennedy-Ohanenye, minister of women affairs, has petitioned the inspector-general of police (IGP) and sought a court injunction to halt the marriage of 100 girls in Niger state.” TheCable reported.

“I want to let the honourable speaker of the house in Niger state know that this is totally unacceptable by Federal Minister Of Women Affairs and by the government,” Kennedy-Ohanenye said.

The Muslim scholars in the North and Niger State in particular see the minister as an interloper and deem her comments as insults to both the northern tradition and the religion of Islam.

The Council of Imams in Niger State issued a one-week ultimatum to retract her comments. Dr Umar Farouk, the secretary of the Niger State Imam Forum, delivered the warning during a press briefing in Minna, the state capital. He stated that the Minister had overstepped her authority and that the Forum would not tolerate her remarks, which they believed could incite a crisis both in the state and nationwide.

The Speaker, himself a barrister, said: “I am highly disappointed in the minister for women's affairs and it is unfortunate that she allowed herself and her office to be misled by social media reports without finding out from me the true situation on the ground concerning this marriage.

"This is politics taken too far by the minister. She should be properly educated on the culture and tradition of the north that girls of marriageable age are not allowed to roam the streets.”

Now Barrister Abdulmalik is refusing to participate in the wedding without withdrawing the financial support.
“If the parents wish to go ahead with the marriage of their daughters, so be it but I have removed my hands,” he said.

As for me, I think the minister made some dangerous assumptions in a bid to earn a name for herself.

First of all, she referenced the Child Rights Act and said that every child is a ward of the state.

“Because there is something called the Child Rights Act and I said it from the onset, that it is no more business as usual. These children must be considered, their future must be considered, the future of the children to come out of their marriage must be considered,” she said.

Here, she assumed that the 100 orphans to be married were children. The more dangerous assumption is that any marriage in the North is done between men and girls. Because logically, if she jumps to the conclusion that these are girls, you must also admit the conclusion that she thinks only girls are married off in the north. She would be surprised that these are women in their late teens or early 20s.

The second assumption is that these “girls” have no education and have no skills.

The Minister said: “As the speaker did not think about empowering these women or sending them to school or giving them some kind of training support financially. The women's affairs have decided to take it up and we are going to educate the children.”

We don’t know the level of their skill set, but the fact that northerners don’t want to send their children to school is stretched by some people to fit their theories. You would be surprised that these orphans have at least graduated from secondary school and have started a trade in which they only need money to scale.

I’ve sponsored some orphaned girls to school because they want to go to school. If the minister really wants to help, we have many girls who want to go to school but can’t afford it. I’ll personally help with the list. They’re in thousands.

So we’re lucky that the Minister is offering to sponsor our children.

The third assumption is that these orphans are being forced into marriage. It’s also the most irrational assumption.

The Speaker said: “She never bothered to get across to me to even find out the motive behind this Humanitarian gesture because I didn't force any girl into marriage, it was the parents of the girls that approached me and solicited for my support and I gladly accepted to assist them.”

A committee screened those who applied for help and the list was reduced from 270 to 100 based on need. They applied! They sought help. And the help was specific: help us get married. What will the Speaker gain by forcing girls to marry other men?

If the minister did intend good, she could have cleared these assumptions by a simple request to the Speaker asking for the profiles of the ladies. The profiles don’t need to be detailed. Indeed, only three questions are enough: age or date of birth, level of education and employment status. Parental approval can also be added.

I’m sure the screening committee already has this information and could’ve emailed it to the Minister within minutes. Indeed, none of the “girls” is younger than 18, according to Dr Umar who has the list of all the ladies.

But in a bid to earn a name, she chose to pick a fight, a fight that she can’t win. More importantly, she’s causing needless problems for her principal among the people who still have doubts about the intentions of the presidency.

This woman has become the reactive minister. The first time I saw her was during the Lead British School bullying episode. Now, this. What’s she done that’s proactive? The Speaker said that she hasn't visited even one IDP camp in Niger State where these vulnerable women live.

In sum, the speaker is a good guy who wants to help his people. I know because we’re neighbours. We just finished planting trees together. He sponsored the tree planting. That’s the kind of guy he is.

slivertongue:
Am sure the following spoken languages point to the existence of natives before the arrival of Fulani Jihadist

Sorry for not hearing from me all this while, I was attending to some important stuff.

Thankfully, you've agreed with some the points I raised. We're heading somewhere, at least.

"Am sure the following spoken languages point to the existence of natives before the arrival of Fulani Jihadist"

You seems to have mistaken Michika, Ganye, Guyuk, or Madagali to those places I earlier mentioned. They're different, completely different. Check.

"Which one is Jasawa? hmm a social Club!!"

Lol. I don't expect someone who doesn't speak Hausa to know what Jasawa is. Ask.

Gobirawa have always been Hausas and that the "Wa" after their names applies to the group of people not language just like the Kanawa, Zamfarawa, Katsinawa, Zazzagawa, among others. I've said this before.

"Like I said separate Hausa, Islam and Fulani, they are not the same."

No one said the trio are the same but in the context of the present discussion the three are obviously inseparable. It's your "love" for Islam (lol) which is manifest in this thread and others that is prolonging this discussion. Remove Islam, you may not have anything against both the Hausas and the Fulanis.

" 'treated and cured' this sentiment."

You've treated nothing, bro. Absolutely nothing. As long as the Christian minority in both Gombe and Adamawa remain peaceful, the cordial relationship will continue to exist. Otherwise, the Niger and Kaduna scenario will play out there. This isn't a rocket science.

"This too has been treated and cured even by you. They like the Fall of Adamawa fought and rejected Islam and were labeled pagans."

You seem to be contradicting yourself here again. Check what you said earlier in this and what my response was. You seem to like driving in circles.

"You like drama..."

For putting things in their proper perspectives? Lol

"No argument."

This ought to be your response in most if not all my input in this discussion.

"Well you said many so no argument but I doubt most would want to go with the FULANI DYNASTY."

The so-called Fulani Dynasty is something alien to us. It's being used by people like you and we don't give a hook. We don't expect anything less from you after all.

"This thread is on ethnicities but you're trying very hard to introduce religion which is what you folks hide behind to shift focus from any discourse."

Lol. I have treated this up here. If not for Islam you won't be here typing all these epistles.

" .... What is the difference between Danfodio and British colonialist?..."

Lol. I don't expect you to see any difference. Honestly, never knew that people like you still exist. If Danfodio and his followers have wanted, the whole of northern Nigeria would have been Muslims by now. But there's no compulsion in religion.

"Religion is still by choice not by force."

Exactly what I've just reiterated.

"The earliest Fulbe polity was established in Bundu in 1690."

From North Africa via the "famous Tripoli route" to Bundu which is in today's Senegal, west Africa. Lol. I like the way you cherry pick your "facts" from wiki. You on one hand, rejected anything gotten from wiki and even tender your "apology to wiki" and on the other hand, you quickly run to the same wiki, copy and paste what you think will help you further mislead people like you here.

The origin and establishment of the Sokoto Caliphate has never been in contention, what is in contention here is the wrongful assumption by people like you that there were no Fulanis in Nigeria prior to that period and that the Jihad was all about the Fulani supremacy. You even mentioned repeatedly here how the Fulanis came to Nigeria via "Tripoli route" and you later "moved" to Bundu, in Senegal. Lol

I can't see the Kanem Bornu and Kwararrafa in your long list. Should we assume that the Fulanis had nothing to do with them as I kept saying here?

Have a great weekend.

Botragelad:
Prime Minister Rishi Sunak has been a staunch advocate for this bill, asserting its necessity to halt the influx of migrants traversing the English Channel in diminutive vessels.
[b]The stance of Rwanda on this matter is secondary;

So, Rwanda's stance on this matter is secondary? Nothing this illegal migrant do will shock anybody anymore. But why not Israel?

slivertongue:
"You've a disgusting hatred towards both Hausas and Fulanis or to say Islam, this is glaringly obvious. It's pathetic. Sorry."

"There are Hausas and Fulanis of other Faiths, and not all Muslims are Hausas or Fulanis."

Nobody is saying otherwise but when Hausa-Fulani is mention, the Muslims and not the people of other faiths among them comes to mind. Just like when you mention the Berom, the Sayawa, or Angas, the Muslims among them hardly come to mind. It's that simple.

"Dan Fodio was an ethnic purist as seen in his actions. His Jihad saw to the elimination of Hausa Kings and their household but elevated foreigners - his kinsmen to the traditional stool of another ethnic group."

I thought you know a little about the Jihad, it seems I'm wrong. Most of Hausa kings such as Bawa Jan Gwarzo and Muhammad Yumfa, were only Muslims by names. They were more into paganism (maguzanci) than practicing the true the Islam. Bori and other magical practices were the order of the day. As a citizen you do not have the right whatsoever as you and your property belongs to the king, even, sometimes, your wife. People were subjected to slavery (literally), a high tax, and all sorts of despotic rule. That was what Shehu Danfodio started preaching against but the Kings couldn't take it, an attempt to assassinate him by the then King of Gobir Muhammad Yumfa failed, and that was the beginning of the Jihad. Danfodio didn't bring Islam to the north but he had the credit of reforming it (Islam). Without his reform, Islam would probably have long been lost in Hausaland. This is one of the reasons why people like you will never like him. Danfodio appointed (or gave flag) to only 14 Emirs, what happened to the remaining towns and cities in the north and who were in charge? Still, even among the 14 emir's appointed, not all of them were Fulanis. The criterion of the appointment wasn't tribal but competence based on the knowledge of the religion (Islam) since as a King you're also a Judge, and to be a Judge you need to be learned in the Qur'an and Hadith, the two primary sources of Islamic law. That's why Mallam (meaning scholar was added to their names like Mallam Yakubu, Bauchi; Mallam Zaki, Katagum; Mallam Dan Ashafa, Gusau; Mallam Sambo, Hadejia, Mallam Dan Tunku, Kazaure etc). If it were purely tribal affairs, you'd have heard "Hardo" this or that and not "Mallam". Besides, there was no revolt against the appointments by the people whatsoever, in fact the appointees we're heartly welcomed. Furthermore, if Danfodio was a tribal "purist", he would have ensured that Fulfulde became the new lingua; or he'd have at least promoted Fulfulde over there languages, but that wasn't the case. Everyone was allowed to maintain his language. It may interest you to also know that Danfodio retired to his home after the Jihad and didn't take any appointment until his death. I can't believe you don't know all these. Not a rocket science, yeah, but still seems to be beyond your comprehension.

"... they effectively became indigenes of those areas after the Fulani Jihad."

Being indigenous and being in control of a kingdom are two different things. I expected you to tell me who were the original inhabitants of the places I earlier mentioned- Yola, Girei, Mayo-Belwa, Lamurde, Fufore, Mubi, and Gombi, among others.

No state in Nigeria can brag of having only one tribe, but among several tribes that make up the state, you find a particular tribe that form a majority if you take the population of every individual tribe into consideration. What makes Adamawa state different is what I'm yet to understand. There are tribes in Adamawa, just like in every state but which among them is more populous/larger than the Fulanis? Jukun? Lol. I think you're the one driving in circles.

"I also opined that the was no kingdoms ruled by Fulanis in 1600 and what existed was Kwararafa, Nupe and Kanem Bornu, and they had little or no Hausa and Fulani in their midst. If Fulanis didn't exist there and had no control of the affairs there, how come they have kingdoms in these places today?"

I can't believe you're saying this. Are Fulanis in control of Takum (Kwarrarafa or Maiduguri (Borno)? I've asked you this same question before. Jukunawa like Kanuri have their emirate system (if I can use that), and no Fulani had anything to do with it.

"Kwararafa went beyond Jukun land..."

This has never been my concern, so I don't give a damn about what Kwararrafa was and what it was not. All I know is that the Fulanis you people so much love to hate had nothing to do with it since "the Fulani Jihad didn't anoint a leader or set up an Emirates there" (to borrow from you).

On Gombe, as I pointed earlier, as long as the Christian minority didn't misuse the privilege like their brothers in Kaduna and Niger, the political harmony remains. Being a Fulani or not has never been an issue. We've gone beyond that.

If Hausa language is a precursor to taking over a land by the Muslims as you want us believe, there are indigenous Hausa Christians even in Kano, why have they not been taken over?

"They migrated into and dispersed in Africa..."

Assuming there are Arabs in this country, if one mention that they migrated from North Africa he may be right because everyone can see that the northern Africa is a home to the Arabs. In the case of Fulanis, how did they migrate all from North Africa, at the same time, in millions, and spread across northern Nigeria since there are no Fulanis in North Africa is what you still failed to tell us.

"If Hausawa refer to Hausa speakers, Bajari refers to Jarawa speakers, Angasawa refer to Ngas speakers etc how come Gobirawa, Bussawa, Dukawa, Zarma, Kambarri etc are refered to as a branch of Hausawa?"

Lol. Have you ever heard of Kanawa, Zazzagawa, Zamfarawa, Katsinawa, Daurawa, Katagumawa, Hadejiawa, etc? Do they speak any language different from Hausa? No. They all speak Hausa from time immemorial. Same thing with Gobirawa. You can't discuss the history of Hausa and Shehu Uthman Danfodio's Jihad without mentioning Gobirawa, and neither the Gobirawa nor anyone has ever said that they aren't Hausa, except you, today. The Hausas add "wa" after the people not after a language, that's why you have Jasawa, Gombawa, Yarbawa, Nupawa, etc. When they want to refer to a language what they add is "ci" like Nupanci, Yarbanci, Angasanci, Sayanci, etc. Surprised you do not know this.

"The folks from Zuru told me they have a mother tongue and they still speak it."

Anyone knows this and isn't peculiar to Zuru alone. But Gobirawa have always been Hausa. Ask.

"What I narrated above is the common experience of majority of the youths who have lost their ethnic identity because their parents don't speak their mother tongue at home or they themselves don't speak so as to be regarded as Hausa or are seeking for visibility within the national and national space."

And someone like you will, one day, accuse Hausa for "swallowing" their language. Lol

"What I have expected of you in this discourse is to put it to (me) that some parts of present day Northern Nigeria were coopted from Cameron Chad and Niger. Lumping some of this strange fellows together by the modern governance architecture of Nigeria... But like I said I am informed."

I expected you also to know that Nigeria was a creation of British colonial masters that the Muslim North never wanted to be part of. The British colonial masters after the Berlin conference of 1884-1885 balkanized Africa, tearing people apart, and bringing total strangers that have nothing in common together. Many northern Muslims will prefer to be associated with the Sokoto Caliphate than this contraption/concoction formed by the colonial masters and named by Lugard's mistress. How people seems to be oblivios of all these and accused the Fulanis at every slightest opportunity is beyond me, especially those who boldly and brazenly brag of being "informed".

garfield1:
I thought tafawa balewa is dominated by Christian minorities like the sayyawas? Apart from the fulanis in Tarab vua,the mumuyes and ichens also have a huge population even more than the overbearing Jukuns who are mainly in wukari and takum.i though late Danfulani Suntai is Fulani?
In adamawa,I know bindowo isn't Fulani but sometimes identifies as one while nyarko is Fulani.i think the wife is a fhc judge.yari looks hausa while Sani yerima looks Fulani.

Tafawa Balewa LGA has 3 major towns, Lere, Bununu, and T/Balewa. Both Lere and Bununu are Muslim majority towns while T/Balewa is a Christian majority. Sayawa, Jarawa, and Fulani are among its major tribes. Overall, there are more Muslims than Christians in the whole of the Local Government. Same thing with Dass, the neighbouring LGA but with Jarawa than other tribes. Both Bindow and Nyako are Fulanis so also Nyako's wife Justice Binta. Suntai too was Fulani, infact his full name was Danbaba Dan-Fulani Suntai from Suntai in Bali LGA of Taraba State. Yaris is Hausa from T/Mafara, Yarima looks Fulani, I'm not sure. But then identifying who is Hausa and who is Fulani especially in the North West is not always easy. There has been an intertribal marriage between the two tribes for centuries. Hausas are typically dark and short while Fulanis are typically tall and fair. This is the general rule but like every general rule there's always an exception.

garfield1:
Chai,I am learning a lot from you sir.ill love to meet you one day.ive always wanted to meet a Fulani with a large grasp of history of Nigeria.
Yes,I agree with you that Muslims slightly outnumber christians in taraba.i met a Fulani once who did the demographics for me and based on my calculations,I opened a thread about it on nairaland.in order to counter this,the Christian tribes usually unite under jukun hegemony to counter this including some minority Muslims.a simple calculus of Taraba shows that Muslims slightly outnumber Christians in the central and north of taraba.even in the south,Muslims are much in ibbi and ussa lgas.
I used to think dankwambo and goje are Hausa fulanis but I learnt that they are minority though they still identify as Hausa fulanis.i heard once that bala Mohammed is a minority,I know yuguda is minority.i don't know of adamu muazu though he looks kuje a fulani.i think nasir Idris the present kebbi gov is Hausa,i don't know where Dare or zamfara is from.umar namadi of jigawa looks hausa while Uba sani is Fulani same as Abba gida.i kbow shekarau is originally not from Kano same as abacha.tanko yakassai is from Taraba

It'll be nice meeting you too Sir, though I'm out of the country ATM.

Yes, Taraba is a Muslim majority state. That they produce two out of the three senators every election year says it all.

Goje and Dankwambo are neither Hausa nor Fulani. Yuguda is Fulani, Muazu too is Fulani from Boto, T/Balewa LGA. Bala is half Fulani from his mother's side and half Jarawa from his father's side, he is from Duguri, Alkaleri LGA. Tanko Yakasai is originally from Jimeta, Adamawa not Taraba. Abacha was Kanuri from Borno, his facial marks said it all. Both Abba and Ganduje are Fulani, Kwankwaso is Hausa. I don't know much about Dare and Nasir but they all look Fulani. Namadi is Hausa from Kafin Hausa.

slivertongue:
First, I am of the North Central, Second, I speak Hausa, Third, I am an informed person, Fourth, I know the contentious issues in the inter group relations within my zone & region. Of course I don't expect you to accept it. Your rehearse of known tales doesn't take away my position and the facts.

I mentioned three kingdoms to portray to you that there were NO Fulani empire in there present places before Dan Fodio
to claim majority status. My area of focus are NC and NE, because one of the kingdom cover two zones. Can you state when the Emirate system led by Fulanis started? And before it started where there rulers and inhabitants in those places? I have dealt with Hausa language and it's use in 'Arewa mu' it was a trade language that swallowed other languages especially with arrival of Islam. Hausa language came before Islam.

Before Jesus and Mohammed, these communities existed. The question are; where there other religions there before the arrival of the big two and how old where they before the big two came into existence? how old is Islam as a religion? Is Islam older than Hausa language? Is Hausa and Fulani the first or earlier languages of peoples of today's garin Hausawa?

Hausa is spoken in native areas but not like in Hausanized areas. In igala land for example they preach with their native tongue in Churches and Mosques but once they are Hausanized, Hausa will supplant their native tongue and even the use of English language in worship places will disappear. In Birom land, Birom, English and Hausa are used in both Churches and Mosques. But if they are Hausanized, Hausa language takes over their native tongue than Islam sets in.

You rightly said religion is the first consideration for electing public officers in the North but that is in the Muslim North. In the Christian North, tribe and competence are the major considerations. Islam is not known to tolerate tribal lines. Some Northern People submit to the religion to gain visibility but others have rejected it and are holding on to their identity thus their exclusion...

In Adamawa the natives of both religions are doing a collaboration, because the division amongst them in the past aided the narratives that Fulanis control, dominate or own them, same in Taraba. I have refused to mix three variables together, Hausa, Islam and Fulani. They are different and are to be interrogated independently before drawing up a conclusion. But you are using Islam for all, some use Fulani for the three.

I won't get into the political dynamics in Taraba, Kaduna, Niger, Kwara the attempted attempt in Gombe. Sadly, I know the world map. I know where Sudan is and where Niger is. Tripoli route is a trade route, am sure you know that route, I also know you know there are Hausa speakers on that route some of the migrants from that route have already attained great heights in this country. 'Borno was the southern terminus of the trade route coming from Tripoli' - THE ROUTE.

Fulani's are said to have descended from amongst the Arabs of Middle East. Some of them claim the Buzus are another of them with a variant tongue, even the nomad 'cluster' in the East Africa are said to be another variant of the same group. What many Southerners refer to Fulanis are sometimes Buzus and the Fulanis have also alluded to this.

I won't also bother myself with POLITICAL and ECONOMIC Fulanis.

This seems to be your best attempt so far in this discourse but even this isn't without its deficiencies. If truly you're from the NC you should know some of the points I raised even if my "known tales" will not change your "position".

Check my earlier post on Kwararrafa, Nupe, and Kanem Bornu, I pointed out earlier that there was no trace of Fulanis in those kingdoms, I don't know what brought about claiming "majority status". I maintained that the Kwararrafa was the Jukun part of Taraba and Benue, has anybody to this very day told you otherwise? The Wiki referred to Yola the capital of Adamawa state as "the capital of a Fulani state until it was taken over by the British in 1901." Who were the original inhabitants of Fufore, Girei, Gombi, Lamurde, Mayo-Belwa, and Mubi (both north and south), among others? Jukun, maybe. If your problem is with reducing the influence of Kwararrafa (Jukun) Gowon, not Danfodio should be blamed for introducing state system in Nigeria in 1967. You did say that you speak Hausa but that "Arewa mu" and "garin Hausa" are, with due respect, saying otherwise. Sorry.

Kwararrafa comprised largely of some parts of Taraba and Benue but the Adamawa Emirate founded by Modibbo Adama in the 1800s "spanned about forty thousand square miles that covered parts of northeastern Nigeria, entire northern Cameroon, and parts of Central African Republic." (Wiki) So between Kwararrafa and Adamawa which one needs to claim "majority status" (to borrow from you)?

Is good seeing you saying, correctly this time around, that "Hausa language came first before Islam". This debunked your earlier assertion eventhough you now introduced "Hausanised" again. Lol

If you want to quote me, do so correctly pls, I didn't say religion is the first consideration for electing public officers in the north, and I also didn't make a sweeping generalisation, I said "in most parts of the North". Check. You cleverly smuggled in competence as a yardstick in electing officials in the Christian north, but what we've seen so far especially with Ortom, Darius, and even Lalong suggests otherwise. I don't know what you mean by the "attempted attempt in Gombe", it may be another fallacious assumption.

You're yet to convince us that Fulanis truly migrated from North Africa. And you want to bring Buzus again into the discourse. Lol

oyatz:
Bros, in Yobe State, Fulanis are dominant in Jajere ,a small rural town under Fune LGA.

However, FUNE LGA is a mixture of Kanuri, Fulani, Kare-Kare and Ngozism.

Yusufari and Yinusari LGAs are Kanuri dominated with dispersed Fulani settlements.

The main Fulani dominated towns in Yobe are Jajere, Mashio-Fulani, Tarmuwa and to some extent Ngelzarma.

Thank you for the correction.

slivertongue:
Hausa is widely spoken in the North that I mentioned but not all Northerners understand or speak Hausa especially in states like Kogi, Benue and Kwara. Hausa speakers are now more amongst the natives especially those who lost their tongues at the advent of their interactions with Hausa traders in the early centuries. Hausa language is 'swallowing up the tongues' of natives speakers especially amongst Muslims because that is the language of propagation and interaction amongst Muslims in most of Northern Nigeria.

The Hausa tribe is an ethnic group that lives in the northwestern region of Nigeria and the southern region of Niger. The Hausa people migrated from Sudan. The Hausas established some strong states in Niger. The powers in that region had declined in the previous centuries, and with the addition of the Hausas in that area, they soon emerged as the new power. Most Hausas are devote Muslims. The Hausa people are known for their trading locally and long distance. Borno was the southern terminus of the trade route coming from Tripoli - the route.

Today is jummat, 97% of mosques will use Hausa language to preach but same can't be said amongst other adherents because they retain their tongues even when married to another ethnic group from the North. It is this situation that makes most Southerners to think that most people in the North are Hausas. Trade and religion pushed up Hausa language and it swallowed others, the native tongues that were swallowed or wiped out are Muslim dominated and those still standing or still mixed are majorly of another Faith.

In this can be found the reasons for the attempts by invaders to grab the lands of natives so as to subject them to their ways of life. Benue and Kogi states are the only state in the North without Hausa and Fulani claiming nativity there. If any tribe there is Hausanized the invaders will hide behind them to settle there permanently and claim nativity of that area, only to turn around to dominate the Hausanized people. Fulanis hide behind 'Hausa' people to invade and claim indigeneship. Most of the attacks on Central highlands and the adjoining low lands is an attempt to Hausanize them so as to claim indigeneship rights there.

The Fulani people came from North Africa and settled in Central and West Africa from there they dispersed to various directions. They were not indigenous to this country. The Hausa–Fulani identity (a political identity) came into being as a direct result of the migration of Fulani people into Hausaland in the 14th century and their cultural assimilation into the Hausa society. The Hausa population is much larger but some Fulanis positioned themselves as the ruling class among the Hausas.

Fulanis were constant visitors to Nigeria as they are today, they bring in their cattle to graze into Nigeria during the dry season and return to their roots when the rain sets in. They paid jangoli tax to the rulers of the North. The Fulanis back then complained of the tax burden and sometimes resisted it. It was in this State of things that an itinerant preacher - Usman Dan fodio appeared on the scene and took advantage of the 'oppressive, corrupt and disunity amongst Hausa rulers to launch a religious crusade in the guise of propagating clean Islam or true worship of God but his agenda was to secure his kinsmen from the Hausa rulers. The Hausa commoners believed him and gave him the support to fight their rulers. He overthrew them with the help of the commoners but replaced the Hausa rulers with Fulani invaders and the new rulers started their own oppression till date.

The Fulanis had no control of any empire or kingdoms in North Central or North East as at 1600. What was dominant was Nupe, Kwararafa and Kanem Bornu and the Fulanis, and to a large extent Hausas weren't part of these kingdoms. It was Dan Fodio's crusade that formal placed Fulanis as the rulers of some communities though before the crusade there were reports of raids on communities in an attempt to grab their land.

Fulanis are found across the states of the North East but they have no dominant control of any State. A pointer is their struggle to lead Gombe and Adamawa, they can't be majority (apologies to Wiki) yet failing to produce governor, deputy and sometimes Speaker and deputy back to back. In these States the national elites are Fula because of aristocratic influence but at the grassroots lay the real owners of the communities. There are also political and economic Fulanis but I won't delve into that.

Hausa language and culture is unique I must say, an encounter with the language can tamper with ones identity. Eg Former Senate President - Ahmed lawal, is Karekare from Yobe State but I doubt his language is a mainstay in his house and if Hausa swallows his tongue tomorrow it will be written that Karekare is a branch of Hausa. His none Muslim kinsmen still speak their tongue along side Hausa language. Goje and Dankwambo are also non Hausas but I doubt their mother tongues are prevalent in their homes. The above scenerio is very common in the North West.

The way you talk, I doubt if you've ever been to the North, the core-north. You use the data from Wiki when it suits you and when it doesn't you tender an "apology to wiki".

So Hausas migrated from Sudan but the same Sudanese speak Arabic. The few Hausas there found themselves there due to the journey to Mecca for pilgrimage.
You alo said the Hausas came through "Tripoli route" If you are coming to any part of Nigeria from Sudan you have no business with Tripoli which is far north, you head westward pass Chad and you're in Nigeria. Geography is added to your problems after history.
Churches in plateau uses Hausa in their service just like I told you that the Birom people uses Hausa language even among themselves. You don't know all these you're here presenting yourself as an authority in a subject you're obviously oblivious of.

Kanem Bornu is in the south of Hausaland? Lol. This is embarassing to you, wallahi. Kanem Bornu is in the east, take note.

You shy away from a answering this simplest question: Before Islam came to Hausaland, what what was the language of the original inhabitants of Kano, Zazzau, Katsina, Daura, Kazaure, Gumel, Gusau, Gobir, Rano, and Mafara among others? Waiting for your answer.

The Fulanis, you said, came to Nigeria from North Africa, how come there's no any country in northern Africa that speaks Fulfulde, or they just decided to migrate all at once, and in millions?

Nupe people are largely in Niger, Kwara, and Kogi states; Kwararrafa is the Jukun side of Taraba and Benue states; Kanem Bornu was Borno, and some parts of Yobe states; there was never the trace of Kanuri, Jukun, and Nupe in Adamawa so who was the inhabitants of Adamawa, or it was just a plain land?

Politics in Nigeria comes with its peculiar intricacies, it is not always a determining factor in this regard. Late Abu Hashidu was a Governor in Gombe in 1999, he was Fulani. Inuwa Yahaya, the current Governor is also Fulani. Gombe, like some states in the North has a negligible percentage of indigenous Christians, there's therefore an unwritten agreement to always give them a Deputy Governor's slot except where they misuse the gesture and provoke the Muslims like in Niger and Kaduna that's where they will lose that opportunity since the Muslims can win any election without them. In Gombe, just like in Adamawa the relationship between the two faith is cordial, so? This further exposes your ignorance about the north and its politics. Another example is Taraba which is a Muslim majority state (I know you'll argue but try and have a heart-to-heart discussion with anybody from Taraba and he'll tell you), another pointer is that from 1999 to date, two out of the three senators representing the date in Abuja have always been Muslims. That tells you all you need to know. Why they are not been governors is a topic for another day. Also, from 1999 to date all the governors in Bauchi state came from one senatorial zone, is Bauchi south senatorial zone more populous than the northern and central zones? Still, consider this points, Jonathan is from Ijaw tribe, is Ijaw among the major tribes in Nigeria? In the recent elections, Tinubu lost to Peter Obi in Lagos, does Lagos belongs to the Igbos? Same Tinubu lost to Atiku in Osun, yes Osun, not Adamawa. What is this telling you? Northerners pay more attention to religion than tribe. That's the reason they voted for Abiola in 1993 and Tinubu in 2023. If you're a Muslim, you can easily contest and win an election in most parts of the North. Shekarau governed Kano for 8 years, he was a minister and a senator but he is originally from Borno. The immediate Governor of Bauchi M A Abubakar is from Kogi. I can go on.

There is no point educating you about Shehu Uthman Danfodio. If you lack a basic comprehension of a simple geographical and historical issues, I doubt if you can understand that one.

Nobody is praying for Congo, nobody is talking about Sudan, no one remembers the war in Ethiopia, same with Rwanda, Somalia, and Uganda, among others. Many Africans and Nigerians in particular, are programmed to stand for others while their home is on fire. Colonialism and imperialism is still here with us but this time we're the ones enforcing it upon ourselves. We are being constantly reminded of Hitler's atrocities to the Jews but no one is reminding us about the Belgian King Leopold's attrocities on Africans which was worse. And the tragedy of a Blackman is that when you want to fight for his right you need to use only one hand, for you'll need the other hand to protect yourself from same Blackman that will certainly fight you. It's sad.

slivertongue:
Fulanis were visitors in northern NIGERIA before Dan fodio's jihad made them indigenes up to Ilorin. Nupe, kwararafa and kanem Borno existed long the Fulani invasion and Islam was practiced there. These kingdoms were neither Hausa nor fulani but today the story is different. North Central Hass been able to retain it's native identity largely because it doesn't share border with trans Sahara trade routes.

You seem to like talking without saying anything. How's the story different in the Nupe, Kwararrafa, and Kanem Bornu while they've neither been Hausa nor Fulani to this very day? Did you see anybody mentioning them among the Hausa-Fulani? Certainly no. So what's exactly your point? You may be shocked to know that the Birom in Plateau state uses Hausa even among themselves. Did anybody force them?

You didn't tell us from which Tripoli the Hausas came from and you're now shifting the goal-post again... Tell us where did the Fulanis came from and spread across northern Nigeria especially the North-east? If you must comment in a public forum you ought to have done your home work properly. You can only mislead some of the people, not all the people. If this were exam, you've failed and failed woefully.

ImmaculateJOE:
How is Fulani the majority tribe in Adamawa..?

Nyako will be the first and last person to govern Adamawa state..

You aren't saying anything here. Maybe you're typing under the influence... Lol

slivertongue:
Ethnic communities existed in the North before Hausa traders reached the North in the early centuries and settled there. Hausa is a trader language while Fulfulde is an invaders language. Islam in Nigeria greatly relied on Hausa language because those traders who came through the Tripoli route were Muslims and spoke Hausa. Most Southerners like the Op believe everything taught to in GST class or read in some revisionist text books.

You've a disgusting hatred towards both Hausas and Fulanis or to say Islam, this is glaringly obvious. It's pathetic. Sorry.

So, the Hausas came from Tripoli (There are two Tripoli by the way, one in Libya and the other in Lebanon, both countries speak Arabic, not Hausa. So?) Who were the original inhabitants of Kasar Hausa like the one in Kano, Rano, Katsina, Zazzau (Zaria), Daura, Kazaure, Gobir, Gusau, and Kauran Namoda, among others? Have you ever heard of Bagauda, Bayajidda, Bawa Jan Gwarzo, and Queen Amina of Zazzau?

I don't know what you mean by "Fulfulde is an invaders language" but if you don't know that there were indigenous Fulanis in Adamawa, Taraba, Bauchi, Jigawa, Kebbi, Sokoto, and Zamfara, among others, then I'm afraid you're not the person you desperately want us to believe you are.

Honestly, I don't know where you got this mis-information from, that you believe
and attempt to propagate them is even more surprising.

successmatters:
They said that Fulani's are less than 1.5m in Nigeria? Do you believe that?

Not even a madman will believe that virtuperation.

slivertongue:
The issue with you is that you argue what you have little knowledge about. Adamawa is a non fulani state though they may have the top elites but the population are non fulani. Gombe State is same

What's really your problem with the Fulanis and the Hausas too, if I may ask? If Adamawa is a "non Fulani state" which state then is?

slivertongue:
see reasoning abeg. Adamawa is a fulani name but the inhabitants are outrightly native people. fulanis are spread across Central and Northern Gombe but there are other ethnic groups there

Lol. The name Adamawa itself originated from Modibbo Adama, who was a Fulani. Agreed there are other tribes just like virtually every state but still the Fulanis are the majority. Fulfulde is the language of communication in most parts of the state. Even the Igbos doing business there learn and communicate with it.

successmatters:
Fulani are minority in every state, just less than 1.5 million people in Nigeria. The population of the smallest local government in Oyo state is bigger than all the whole Fulani people.

Lol. You need to start travelling then to learn and unlearn many things...

slivertongue:
remove Adamawa. Gombe ain't really true

Lol. This guy, I don't know what we've done to you. In the other thread your problem was with the Hausas and here is with the Fulanis.

He has simply stated the fact. Surprised that you don't know this.

DOptical:
Only dumb fools equate tout to agberos 😂

You're yet to answer my question, what did murderous criminal fool Uthman Dan fodio invent till he died a senile death, according to Clapperton?

Calling you tout or agbero is being charitable kiddo, you're worst than that, by far. Shehu Danfodio died a natural death at the age of 62 at his home in Sokoto. How can a person who died at 62 be senile? The Clapperton you so much love to hype was captured, arrested, and detained by the Fulanis in Sokoto where mosquitoes bite and diphtheria led to his early death at just 38. So what's so spectacular about him that you kept ranting uncontrollably about him? Did you now see how mentioning Clapperton exposes your emptiness, dumbness and shallow-mindedness?
I repeat, Danfodio is greater than any member of your tribe dead or alive and those that may be unluckily born in the future.

DOptical:
It's called lout, not tout. Typical. Two Core Northerners disgracing themselves

Everyone knows what tout and lout means. In the Nigerian parlance a tout is akin to an agbero and honestly you're worse than agbero, by far. I repeat, a pair of Danfodio's shoe is greater than you and your likes, dead or alive. Clapperton Report has exposed your emptiness and shallow-mindedness. Pity.

garfield1:
Is Ahmed aliyu Hausa or Fulani? I know wamakko,tambuwal are fulanis while bafarawa is hausa

He's likely Hausa

slivertongue:
no. Don't be deceived by some of what you have on the net. they may have lost their tongue to Hausa but they have a tongue and facial mark as identity . They are called gwogobiri for male and gwogobara female. There are also Bussawa, Dukawa, Gungawa, Kambari, Zarma, Dakarkari. These ethnic groups ain't originally hausas, but now hausa speakers.

Don't be deceived too bro. Gobir and Gobirawa have always been Hausa. You can't talk of Hausa historically without mentioning the famous King of Gobir, Bawa Jan Gwarzo. Hausa like every other language has different accents that's why the Hausa in Zamfara and Kano slightly differ. It's common with Yoruba, Igbo and Fulfulde.