₦airaland Forum

makemoneywbsite:
So the history of the two-state solution started with Yitzak Rabin according to you? I like the way you guys lie to propagate your religion. Who would have a nation and suicide bombers and not take the sort of precaution Israel is taking? Palestinian desire for an independed state is simply a ploy by Muslims to have a lauchpad to attack and annihilate israel just like they did last October. 4 wars and dozens of uprisings and you expect israel not to take precautions?

Why are you sounding so aggressive?

The history of Palestine didn't start with Rabin, it started long before Abraham whom the Jews claimed to have descended from migrated from Ur and later Haran all in Mesopotamia (today's Iraq) and settled there. King David would later conquer Jerusalem. Conquer from who? You may ask- the Palestinians. Check your Bible. Today's Jews are migrants from Europe who settled there due to the persecution from the western Christian countries such as France, Germany, Russia, and others. We all know where the Jews migrated from but no one has told us where the Palestinians migrated from. Ask an Israeli the tomb of his immediate grandparents and he'll take you to Poland, Germany, or Russia. Ask a Palestinian the tomb of his 30th grandparents and he'll take you there in Palestine. And you're still saying that is not their land.

Chikel20000:
u can now get lost n stop tagging me too....gypocrite

Lol

Bookhub:
The same two state solution they rejected 76 years ago is now what they are begging for,you claim jews are you abrahamic siblings but you denied them their right to statehood in their ancestral land now they have almost all the land,you were offered Judea and Samaria (west bank) a territory historically and bibilically known to be an Israelite territory yet you were not satisfied and wanted it all from Jerusalem to tel aviv now you have none its too late.

Not true and I'll tell you why.

Palestinian people have been wrongly but deliberately accused of rejecting the two-state-solutiin (2SS). This is a lie. A pure, blatant lie repeatedly told to mislead the public. The devil in every deal is in the details...

The only Israeli PM who showed commitment to the 2SS was Yitzhak Rabin based on the 1993 Oslo Accord, and it was on that commitment that he got assassinated publicly by Yigal Amir, a jewish extremist in 1995.

The camp David Summit in the year 2000 came fairly close to creating a 2SS during Ehud Barak. It came crashing down when Barak warned the Americans that he could not accept giving the Palestinians more than a purely symbolic sovereignty over any part of East Jerusalem. In total, Israel demanded that Palestine's territory in East Jerusalem be reduced to eight sections including six small enclaves. Palestinians objected to the lack of sovereignty and to the right of Israel to keep Jewish neighbourhoods that it built over the Green Line in East Jerusalem.

The Israel also wanted to set up radar stations inside the Palestinian state, and be allowed to use its airspace. Israel also wanted the right to deploy troops on Palestinian territory in the event of an emergency, and the stationing of an international force in the Jordan Valley. Palestinian authorities would maintain control of border crossings under temporary Israeli observation. Israel would maintain a permanent security presence along the Palestinian-Jordanian border.

Israel also demanded that the Palestinian state be demilitarized with the exception of its paramilitary security forces, that it would not make alliances without Israeli approval or allow the introduction of foreign forces west of the Jordan River.

One of Israel's strongest demands was that Arafat declare the conflict over, and make no further demands. Israel also wanted water resources in the West Bank to be shared by both sides and remain under Israeli management. Israeli control of water resources in the new (almost) Palestinian state, along with de facto Israeli control over borders and the total demilitarisation of the Palestinian state basically guarantees that Palestine would be an Israeli state.

Robert Malley, part of the Clinton administration and present at the summit, wrote that Arafat was told that Israel would not only retain sovereignty over some Arab neighbourhoods of Jerusalem, but Haram Al Sharif too, and Arafat was also asked to accept a 9-to-1 ratio in land swaps.

Shlomo Ben-Ami, the then Israel's Minister of Foreign Relations who participated in the talks stated on Democracy now in 2006 that "Camp David was not the missed opportunity for the Palestinians, and if I were a Palestinian I would have rejected Camp David, as well.

The Palestinians compromised quite a bit. They started by asking for a state based on pre 1967 borders. The Israelis rejected that, so they asked for borders based on 1967. The Israelis also rejected that, so they asked for complete control over the West Bank and Gaza. The Israelis rejected that. And the same Palestinians are unjustly accused by people of rejecting the 2SS. (As recent as last week, Netanyahu publicly and boldly reiterated the Israel stance that the Palestinians shouldn't have a state, after Biden called for a 2SS).

These and more are all documented by even the Israeli media such as the Haretz and by many Israeli authors such as Uri Avnery, Dan Cohen, and Ilan Pappe, among others.

Chikel20000:
add Hitler, even Israel prime minister and all other christians u can think of....none compares to d killing, destruction n bombing of what we r seeing from a certain religion that claims God is weak n we should fight for him.... Twister

I'm allergic to unnecessary if not idiotic quote by people with below average IQ. Thanks, but no thanks.

Pharaoh4rin:
Christians in Nigeria have given all to the other religions in Nigeria especially Muslims, but what do we get? Hatred, disdain, killing, destruction of properties, sentiments, everything evil from them. Please, stop preaching any more tolérance. We have had it to our necks already. If not for cowardice, how could we allow those paedophiles do what they do all the time? Fvck them all.

Try harder!

Jennyclay:
just look at this broke thing

I blame myself for stooping so low to even quote a nobody like you

Mtcheww!! Nonsense!!

You're bereft of ideas, everything about you shows that. But you have at least learn one lesson today- if you must contribute to a public forum, your IQ should be at least average.

Jennyclay:
I wasn’t dragging any religion!

I only wanted justice my late Deborah!

Biko, don’t quote me again, if you don’t want to see the other side of me

You're now as confused as a headless chicken. Go and re-read the trash you typed and see whether it has any nexus with Deborah. There's no side of you that I haven't seen on this forum. You always sound like a swaggering, incompetent, brainless baboon. Let's go!

Chikel20000:
let's agree it's staged....but yet it's peaceful n loving....can u say that about other religion?

Other religion that waged a crusade against others? Same religion that exterminated many tribes in Africa and beyond for resisting colonialism? The same religion that gave the world the likes of Mussolini, Stalin, and Hitler? Lol

Jennyclay:
But how many Christians today have you seen or heard that practiced Leviticus 24:15-16 .

Besides, Leviticus is Old Testament in the Bible.

Jesus Christ came with forgiveness in the New Testament and that is what Christians are practicing till eternity.

I was expecting you to tell me that the Leviticus is in the Qur'an, not the Bible. I hope you won't one-day accuse the Muslims of waging the crusade... Make your point without unnecessarily dragging the Muslims. Is that too hard for you?

Goddyrichie:
Christian show love to other faiths rather than the other religion killing people that don’t practice they’re religion slaughter other faiths like ram

I hope you won't one day accuse "the other religion" of waging a crusade.

Jennyclay:
Christianity is the true definition of peace.

if these people were to be Muslims they would have called this blasphemy and ask for their heads to be cut off immediately .

Happy Good Friday!

You can make whatever point you think you have without dragging the Muslims into this, since it doesn't concern them. The punishment of blasphemy is death by stoning, says the Bible in Leviticus 24:15–16. In case you don't know.

If that myopic religious bigot is made a Mod, NL has gone to the dogs then for there would be no need moderating anything. Seun is intelligent enough to know this. Righteousness or whatever he calls himself shouldn't moderate even a WhatsApp platform of 5 or more members.

Kapeter:
El Rufai is a wise politician and wouldn't be stupid to go Kwankwanso way. No matter how big you think you are politically, You most definitely need a big party platform to achieve whatever you dream politically. Buhari had a cult followership but could not become anything pre APC, same as Kwankwanso. El-Rufai is only playing a mind game on APC to show them his importance and i won't be surprised if he win at the end and become the partys presidential flagbearer come 2031.El-Rufai is not dumping APC, he is only trying to scared them. Even if he will leave APC, He'll only be returning to PDP which i doubt would ever happen. Make una go siddon for one corner abeg.

Lol. Don't rule out the possibility of anything when it comes to politics. In that game anything is possible.

AMINDA:
The post-election treatment of Elrufai by the Tinubu cabal has left a bitter taste in the mouth of most northerners who hitherto supported Tinubu. It has created an atmosphere of great distrust and I feel it was ill-advised. I hope Elrufai does not contest in 2027 but if he does, he would do a devastating damage to Tinubu's reelection campaign even if he doesn't end up winning the election. The current crop of northerners Tinubu has around him cannot galvanise the North the way an Elrufai would and no-one can handpick a leader for the North.

The North is waiting to pick a successor and heir-apparent to Buhari and Elrufai is looking like a prime candidate for that role. The opportunity cost of denying Elrufai the ministerial slot (which he doesn't even need, having been a minister 20 years ago) and the manner it was done will prove to be costly in the end. It would have paid Tinubu to pull Elrufai closer even if he regarded him an enemy. Elrufai has nothing to lose.

Only intelligent people devoid of emotional attachment can see it from this plain perspective. You are among the few exceptions, sir.

In addition to this, the North felt utterly betrayed by Tinubu. The likes of Ganduje, Baba Ahmad, Matawalle, or Badaru can't help Tinubu at the time he needed their help the most.

Straybullet:
I agree 100 percent with all this.

But gonthrough your list and see that there is no political achievement there.

That's why I say he's a political infant

Stop shifting the post in the middle of the game. You mentioned achievement, you weren't being specific. BTW, so winning a state like Kaduna from a sitting Governor who is also on the ballot is not political achievement? Making Kaduna among the only six states that can survive without federal allocation isn't achievement politically? Tinubu's "victory" in 2023 won't have been easy, if at all possible, without Elrufa'i's political sagacity. That too isn't isn't an achievement? Do you remember when Tinubu followed him all the way to Kaduna telling him that he must be part of his government when he mentioned that he was going back to school? Don't allow hatred to be-clowed your sense of judgement, pls.

Straybullet:
Name his achievements

He graduated with a first class from ABU Zaria during his time. He was the only African to pass the Royal British Quantity Surveying examination at first sitting during his time. He has another degree in Law from the University of London, and MBA from Cambridge as well as AMP from Harvard. He is currently a PhD scholar at the university of Neitherlands. He became a dollar milloinaire before reaching thirty. He turned around the FCT as minister, achieving what even Obasanjo thought was impossible. You need to know Abuja before, during, and after his tenure to fully understand this. He did the same at BPE. As Governor, he changed Kaduna for good. Kaduna can now do without the federal allocation, thanks to his initiatives. Above all, he can stand scrutiny for he abhors corruption, unlike Tinubu. I can go on...

Straybullet:
So why has tinubu defeated el rufais man ningi in the senate

And the Northern caucus is denouncing ningi?

Oga you can't.defeat a savvy sitting president

Na goodluck jonathan mumu himself

This has exposed your political naivety. How is Ningi (PDP man) become Elrufa'i's? This is not the right time to fight Tinubu, the northern caucus are intelligent enough to know this. Tinubu's is in his first year, after all. So you don't need to be another Niccolo Machevelli to know this. The North will fight at the right time, mark this. Whether Tinubu is really "savvy" is left for Nigerians to say. But one thing is that he can't win the south south, not to talk of the South East, most of his Yoruba kinsmen aren't happy with his performance so far, and he is fighting the North at the same time... And you can't see all these.

Straybullet:
Hmmm...we dey watch.

El rufai has no loyalty...ask obasanjo

He might have learnt that from him (Obasanjo). Obasanjo's treachery is known to all, except maybe you.

SadiqBabaSani:
El rufai is finished politically

Why is Tinubu's camp jittery then?

Straybullet:
Well, I want tinubu to frustrate that storm.

El rufai can't do jack to a sitting president who is not foolish

Lol. Same Tinubu that lost in Lagos and Osun, the whole of South East and south south (if not for Wike's mago mago in Rivers) on one hand, and won Jigawa, Borno, Yobe, Niger, Sokoto, Kebbi, Katsina, Zamfara, and came second in the remaining northern states including Kano (after Kwankwaso)? Tinubu's saving grace may be Igbo people... The North is done with him. They put him there and they'll remove him from there. No amount of Gandujes can save him. Not even Elrufa'i, anyone can beat Tinubu at the poll at the moment. The man is a colossal failure, highly overated.

Vinnie2000:
OP, In the 2023 election, El-Rufai fought hard for Tinibu.

He Stuck out his neck and was Attacking tinibu's opponents, including Peter Obi.

He even almost Quarrelled with Buhari during the Naira redesign saga,
Which tinibu also Opposed.😕

So If he is Aggrieved that he has been Sidelined, he has the Right to feel so.

But, do NOT Underrate him.😏

El-Rufai is a FORCE in the north and can Pull a Heavy Political Storm!🙂

A shocking rude awakening is waiting for him. Not even Tinubu can underate Elrufa'i, he knows.

MrProlific95:
Very useless El rufai

None of your family tree dead or alive can achieve a quarter of what he has achieved.

benjaminlawson:
Which means you must be ready to finance the university with money that is generated from the north also, not the money that comes from Christian south.

You demand from the Muslims what you aren't ready to give them in your backyard. Stay in your place. Is that too difficult to understand?

Austin4lif:
I schooled In a federal institution In the north and the Muslim students tried to stop us from followship In the class rooms that we are disturbing them meanwhile the school have refused to allocate a land for a church. It almost turn bloody. When Muslims says Islam is a religion of peace , I kept on wondering which peace are they referring to or is it the opposite?

This is what the Muslims are also going through at your backyard. Why do you have to go to the North in the first place? Clown.

stonemasonn:
Oga 40 percent of Northerners are Christians

I thought is 90 percent. Lol

Abelino:
That is why we need to go our separate ways asap because we can't be sharing this same country with animals whose ideologies are so shallow and pathetic. Northern Nigeria doesn't deserves to be called Nigeria.

Whatever!

Go and die!!

Austin4lif:
I am a Christian from the north. Don't decieve people , there are indeginous christians in almost all the states in the north even Kano state. In daura,kastina state where Buhari came from we have Fulani christians there. Go to Zulu in kebbi, Hausa christians are the majority. So dnt justify the harassment of christians. And Islam is a religion of peace but in what aspect ? Pls explain it to me.

I'm allergic to a senseless, myopic, and brainless mention, pls.

Majority kee you there...

successmatters:
The butcher seems to have finished his loot in one Arabic institution he went to study. He's back to syphon more Niger Delta oil money.

Whatever! And there's nothing you or anyone can do about it!! So?

Austin4lif:
I schooled In a federal institution In the north and the Muslim students tried to stop us from followship In the class rooms that we are disturbing them meanwhile the school have refused to allocate a land for a church. It almost turn bloody. When Muslims says Islam is a religion of peace , I kept on wondering which peace are they referring to or is it the opposite?

This is what Muslims are also going though in your backyard. What brought you to the north- same North you so much love to hate to begin with? The right of a muslim students to wear hijab in public school has to go all the way to the supreme court.

Emu4life:
Shut up

No mind the confused clown. Same public schools that some will not allow Muslim girls to wear hijab?

Good move by the two universities. The North is finally waking up from their slumber. Southern Christians should go back to where they come from and school there. Is that too difficult to understand?

xpressionx:
Na Northerners wey get nothing to loose.

They also damaged people's cars.

So to your fishy brain the northerners have nothing to loose in a market like Wuse market in the heart of Abuja? Which village are you from?