do you people know that some human rights lawyers filed lawsuits against the Irish ministry of justice in connection with the denial of residency rights to illegal residents married to EU citizens? it is worthwhile to inform you that the EU court in Brussels has ruled the decision in favour of the EU spouses and has demanded that the Irish government should issue the stamp4EuFam permit to every immigrant in this category.

Serbia & Montenegro, Bosnia & Herzegovina

ayomifull:

It definitely does work (especially 4 years ago!), before the recent bills they are introducing shortly, an assylum seeker can be married to Irish citizen and be allowed to reside in Ireland once the marriage is done legally. A cousin of mine who was married to an Irish years ago divorced her after getting his Irish passport, he illegally brought his fiancee in Nigeria in and she went to seek assylum, few weeks after they got married, she withdrew her application for assylum and applied for legal stay as a legally married wife of an Irish citizen and she was given legal residence as a spouse of Irish citizen, it took a while though but while waiting for the paper one can never be deported.

Its not that easy though especially these days but it works, its just that awon omo yen ti gbo won mo reason ti awon boys fi nfe won and they can make it almost impossible unlike in those days, i think the bill has not been passed to law which states that an assylum seeker can not get married in Ireland.

Hi Ayomifull. Marying for documents (by illegal residents) did work in the past, but that was until 2005. these days, only people with long term visas or other acceptable documentation do get these benefits from marriages. You should be aware that people who get married for papers after 2005 do so in vain.
A friend of mine got married to american girl in another eu country, he came into ireland by government employment under health ministry yet, he was given Irish passport in less that 2 year of living and working in Ireland. I think the irish government take some individual value into consideration.

Pataki:

@ Figurehead,
I know within the Dutch immigration policies, once you are married to a Dutch citizen, you are asked to leave the country at first, and then you file an application from your home country with the intention of living with your spouse in the EU country.

Yes, this is something many people avoid. Leaving the eu country and applying for a visa in home country to re-enter is often a difficult task to carry out. I know somebody who took that step and was stranded in delay and frustration in Nigeria for 53 months (after his marriage) before he was considered for a visa. As i am writing this now, my close friend has been in Naija for almost 4 years and his application is yet to come through: his supposed wife (who has been messing around with niggas) is now pregnant for one of them: true story.

Pataki:

If Ireland was proving difficult, why sit your ass therein? You could have migrated to other Western European country with your spouse and made a proper application for residence permit from there, and subsequently in months/years return to Ireland to settle your stay permanently. (Just my own opinion though).

Man, it takes one with valid documents to travel within Europe, not an asylum seeker

Pataki:

The Home Office is making a boast of having deported over 2,400 illegal immigrants since the beginning of this year, so sad you have added to their list.

These people are up to something merciless. There hasn't been a direct flight from Dublin to Lagos, but in december last year, the Irish aviation introduced a trial flight, and the plane was loaded with 226 deportees to MMA.

Thank you all, got to go now, will read from you tomorrow. once again, thank you so much. goodnight. One love

funkybaby:

@figurehead

Who told you that marrying an irish woman for documents does not work in Ireland? Abeg, tell that to the birds. Infact, about five years after the marriage, if all goes well and the woman is still blinded by love, the man get his Irish passport. Having kids with the woman makes the situation only a lot more juicy. Council flat, weekly stipend, etc.

Not as you say, FBaby. maybe this happened many years ago, but not in recent years. I do not want to go into details of all the failed measures that i have taken to legalise my stay, even marriages do not work.
At any one time, there are thousands of immigrants that are married to Irish citizens and they do not have the permit to stay in Ireland. Those who enjoy the benefit of such marriages are the people who came into ireland with valid long term visas or work permit, and also those who have evidence that they have legally resided in other EU countries, and having married in there, they entered Ireland with the EU treaty rights visa. But anyone who married in Ireland as an illegal immigrant remains an illegal immigrant no matter what comes out of the marriage; even if the wife and the kids are Irish or EU citizens, and he's not immune against deportation
I know about Irish immigration, but what i don't know is the consequences a deportee faces in nigeria.
Now that everybody has different opinions about this, i am the more confused, i am thinking of sending someone to find out from the immigration people at MMA and see what they have to advice.
Now am at the edge of three choices among six options:
To delay my next move and see if the lawyer can do anything and overturn the decission or to just give it up and leave?
To pay for my ticket and go home voluntarily or to face deportation and keep my money?
To use a TC or to use my evidently stamped passport which i have hidden from authority
even, the thought of sneaking into another country is not out of the question, but to be frank, this situation has really made me fed up about living abroad.

I really thank you all for your replies.

funkybaby:

@ vicjustice oops! Figurehead

This is a more serious issue, not the time for name callings, please. Vic is the only person i know in reality, we live in same town and i fancy him alot, he has been supportive and encouraging to me, but that doesn't make me he

funkybaby:

Either he buys the ticket or he gets deported, those boys at immigration will still subject him to humiliation.

However,if this case is real and your friend is serious, i could hook him up with someone at the airport  that will ensure he gets treated 'nicely' with no hassles once he touches down from the airplane.

Oh, this is very thoughtful of you, and yes, the case is real, i am the person it concerns, and i will really consider this as a last resort, but i am still hoping that an assigned lawyer will do something about this to overturn the decission.

Pataki:

A four year long case of immigration battle _{Why not marry an Irish citizen like}

If he gets to be deported by the Irish Authorities, he will be handed over to Nigerian Immigration Authorities for straight-away detention!

If he willingly decides to go back to Nigeria on his own, he has nothing to worry about. _{(If he knows people within the Immigration Authority though).}

However, if you can make open his case here, I am sure there are one or two ways it can be handled. It is definitely not the end of the world for whomever is involved in this case.

I know what you mean, but the conduct of marrying a woman for documents does not work in Ireland, first of all, there are some requirements to meet, and secondly, even if you work your way into marriage, you will never be given the permit to stay in Ireland. There are Many people who are married for many years and even have kids, yet they don;t have the permit to stay in Ireland. Ireland does not issue residence permit on marriage ground

ayomifull:

Four long years! Its really sad o and its not that easy if you have nothing to go back home to but all the same its still much better and 'glorious' to buy your own ticket and return on your own. I am not sure what happens at the Airport though but still thinks leaving on your own is better than being deported. Take heart and start thinking of how to assemble the pieces of your life together back home and of course remember to transfer your cash via money transfer agency may be a day before you leave so you can collect it yourself on arrival, i no too trust, o

Definitely since he sought assylum!

But if we are not certain of the reception on arrival at MMA, then it is a risk to waste personal money for ticket and still face the nigerian immigration troubles.

Akolawole:

1) Have they at anytime taken his fingerprint?

Of course, they took the finger prints before anything else began, if not even the knockles and ankle prints

Hi all.
Against all odds and the possible criticism and mockery that this post might attract, let me join those who seek advice on their friends' situations, or is it their own situations?
Now, a "friend of mine" has been denied a legal status to stay in Ireland after a four year long battle. . , the ministry of justice claimed they are not satisfied that "his" story does not have enough evidence to verify "his" claims. he did applied to be allowed to remain in the country on humanitarian ground which has also been called to a halt. Last week, "he" received an immigration letter ordering "him" to leave the country volunterily or face deportation.
My question now is, which of these two options is better, to buy "his" own ticket and leave on "his" own, or to be deported?
I heard that in either ways, whether one is deported or "he" voluntarily leaves a country after failed attempts to legalisation, the nigerian immigration arrests the person on arrival and "he" is detained until he pays a fine or is it a bribe. How true is this?
Also, what are the measures one has to take to avoid severe punishments by the nigerian authorities, can someone please give advice? Any advice would be appreciated even advice from enemies are welcomed.

just wondering where you get these jokes from. nice ones

lol real people?

Vicjustice:

Any part of Europe? But i suppose you should have a desired country. Anyway, what's the invitation regarding?

oga mi, how far? wey dem, bullies ?

na waoh! i actually prefere to be a guest visitor and read these cork and bull stories, the last time i logged on was the day i intervened to stop patakeys random trouble with everybody, and since then i jhave not visited this site how much more would i have imagined that that little arguement i have with him could escalate into this level after so many days. old boy, you dey sleep at all how come all those things still remain for your mind after so many days abi you no get any serious matter to worry about?
now i see that any person who is not against vijustice is not only for vicjustice, but he is vicjustice himself. bulls**t.
ok, is up to you if you like you can have hypertaension over your own oversabi you may say that
PEOPLE I AM NOT VICJUSTICE AND I CAN NEVER BE HIM! i dont have anything agaist him and or patakey i just dont like that he is a trouble maker. thats it
but where is the moderator, why he allows all those abuse to continue, abi?

Tegese:

there is a popular saying in my language it goes thus: "He who says everyone is bad, He is the bad one" he should examine himself because, everyone can't be bad save he.

my sentiment, bravo!

Tegese:

is joy your friend? i don't think so otherwise, you would have known some facts about her. almondjoy has done me nothing wrong and you have just asked a good question: "what do (i) hope to achieve by doing this??" the answer is simple, NOTHING, then why did i do it? because it is the TRUTH and my motive is worthwile. the summary of it is, what i said is the reality of her situation, and she knows it. i don't have anything against her for seeking political or economical asylum, but her falsehood and excessive bragging. if she likes, let her expose me as well, i know she knows some things negative about me too. i don't know how many people this might offend, but i am sure there are more people who appreciate my guts, so i am encouraged. somehow, i am beginning to regret all these, but she pushed me to talk out, she pushed me.

her responds

almondjoy:




Please go and report to EFCC and Homeland security combined! You can be Bishop Ajayi Crowther for all I care! You can attach a picture of ma pussy on Nairaland if I have phocked you in the past for all I care too! I will post a life size picture of your shrivilled up, harmattan, seedless, pepper fruit-like looking deek to make look a little more like that of a full grown infant's to return the favor!

Thank God say I no be ashewo from Oredo local government area based in Italy!

Do your worst. . . .idiot!

Long hissssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss! Please back to topic. Your 2 minutes of fame is up. . . . next please!

is this all almondjoy could say about it? this is a person who has (now) posted almost 6000 comments in less than six months, i am actually doubting if she has any job that will take some of her time

iamworried:

@almondjoy

all these your rantings and bragging. you are yet to stop !!!

you are nothing but an ECONOMIC ASYLUM SEEKER IN UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
and your case is still pending with the authorities.

you should spend your time fasting and praying to God so that your bag of lies will not be detected by the authorities and you wont be placed on the first plane back to naija.


@nairalanders. abeg make una read this thread. pages one and two

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-65653.0.html

post number 25 and 29.

post number 25 and 29, 35 and 53

these people are now victimising me into the scape goat calling me names because i refused to be on their side. if being on vicky's side will make you stop establishing your superiority gangster, i'll rather be. honestly i am not interested in a fight with teenagers. good day

pahtahkee:

Everyday life in Nigeria is a death trap. May God help us.

the good oga patahkey, na you dey talk this one against naija? wetin you go yahn if na another person? this na hypocrisy o! who then shall we trust?

pahtahkee:

I am sure they must have told you in basic English classes, sentences with the word ''if'' connotes a conditional/probability statement. You have made some points but most are absolute rubbish in fact baby talk. What has wearing white sneakers and getting it dirty got to do with nothing good emanates from Nigeria? I do not even know where to start from with the rubbish you wrote up here.

You came up with 23 ''ifs''. . .

pahtahkee:

You keep ignoring yet you resort to your drivel the more. Is there any word as quatify? Is that the latest English word in Downing street?

this pahtahkey and english sef.
oga you no think say you dey do over sabi, abi na i too know (itk) we go call am?
why every time you and somebody get argument you dey always find something for him englis wey you go take yab am, abi na englis course we dey do here?
i wonder for you oooo! person dey talk say naija bad, you dey talk about englis error, person go talk about visa you go talk about englis error, person go yahn about job, you go yahn about englis error, abi na you sabi the englis pass? the ugly thing be say anything you say whether opata or katakata, funkybaby go follow you: i dey fear say your comrade, akolawole fit follow you too, but e be like say the guy get him own sense and i respect am for that.
but the way things come be now, e be like say any person wey no support una opinion na yabis he dey get, you go yab him englis and funkybaby go yab him papa and mama. this no be civilised way to do things, na free world we dey, and every body dey entitled for him opinion whether negative or positive. you guys suppose show say una dey western world or at least una don travel there before, make una no dey insult or abuse or swear or curse people wey debate with una.
anyway, i say make i write in pidgin englis so that oga patakey (with him over sabi itk) no go bully me say something no correct with my englis, hair no dey my armpit ooo!

you got me wrong, sly, i am entirely in support of your posts, my comment was in responds to ty4real's post given credit to nigeria youth musicians as the good thing in nigeria

ty4real:

Nigeria is a blessed country with talented youths who are really making a wave in the music industry and I am surprised about the jargons people say !Every developed country has it demeirts and merits but they have choosen to focus the good side so I think Nigerians should start to do the same now!

and this was the respond '

Figurehead:

VICJUSTICE HAS SAID WISELY THAT THE THINGS HE 'WOULD CONSIDER GOOD IN NIGERIA ARE THE THINGS WESTERN COUNTRIES EXCEL AT'. WHAT DO YOU SAY ABOUT AMERICAN YOUTHS AND MUSIC? BY THE WAY, HOW DOES MUSIC IMPACT THE DESPIRATELY POOR MASSES?

then, i referred to your post thus "THIS QUOTE HAS THE ANSWER FOR YOUR POINT"

®~^Sly^~®:
its most definitely not me kind!!
be real. . .u still have no point here!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yes and self-centered as i have said earlier!!!!!

Bottomline. . .there is still nothing good so far about Nigeria
The goverment bodies are filled with Stingy pot-bellied selfish power hungry self-centered bunch of Nazis!!!!

Next!! One indisputable and impregnable good thing about Nigeria!!! not all these yada lada pin pin. . .savvy?

ty4real:

Nigeria is a blessed country with talented youths who are really making a wave in the music industry and I am surprised about the jargons people say !Every developed country has it demeirts and merits but they have choosen to focus the good side so I think Nigerians should start to do the same now!

THE THINGS WE 'WOULD CONSIDER GOOD IN NIGERIA ARE THE THINGS WESTERN COUNTRIES EXCEL AT'. WHAT DO YOU SAY ABOUT AMERICAN YOUTHS AND MUSIC? BY THE WAY, HOW DOES MUSIC IMPACT THE DESPIRATELY POOR MASSES?
THIS QUOTE HAS AN ANSWER FOR YOUR POINT

®~^Sly^~®:
its most definitely not me kind!!
be real. . .u still have no point here!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yes and self-centered as i have said earlier!!!!!

Bottomline. . .there is still nothing good so far about Nigeria
The goverment bodies are filled with Stingy pot-bellied selfish power hungry self-centered bunch of Nazis!!!!

Next!!  One indisputable and impregnable good thing about Nigeria!!! not all these yada lada pin pin. . .savvy?

Hi vic. estonia has now joined schengen, is it now safe?

ha, na wah o! why funky dey vex dey hala abuse on someone wey simply need advice?

so how did it turn out to be with these listed names of applicants? give us an update thanx

there was nothing like nigeria until 1914, that is if my memory serves me right. so, adam and eve must not have been nigerians. but the garden of eden was located in ethiopia (cush). see genesis 2:13 (from the original king james version in ancient english)

most students are too afraid to even try for the usa visa thing, no venture no success they say

doncaster:

If you see hockers in greece, spain and italy whats wrong with it? (they pay tax on it for your info) is it illegal? do you prefer them stealling than hocking? i tire for all these Nigeria wey too sabi. They hock to train their folks back home in Uni while you are here writting rubbish. If you are in a white coller job good for you but remember everybody cannot be in office job. Even the oyibos(british)do warehouse jobs, cleaners(both toilets and streets) so what the heck is all this bad belle all about. If you dont have anything doing in nigeria and see the opportunity to come to europe please dont try to think twice but if you are a trader or worker in a good office dont think of coming unless on holidays. coming to illegals i bet you its only 1% of nigerian came to europe as legal migrant. illegal will come and get settled one way or the other.

i think British benefit from illegals as they know who is illegal and legal but due to the fact that illegal don't collect their tax return which runs to billions of £ every fiscal year they tend to overlook them. This is only if you are crime free.

@ doncaster, happy christmas! i disagree with you that those people who sell illegal or fake materials do pay taxe for them. to me, there is no difference between stealing and pirating of CDs or (Indecency) DVDs, they are all criminal offence. so your claims is like saying that thieves do pay taxes for whatever they steal, ha

did you mean a sex partner, a girlfriend or a wife?

dokpesi:

TAKE TIME TO READ THIS FACT VERY WELL , ITS MIGHT HELP YOU GET YOUR FREE

ZONES YOU ARE LOOKING FOR.
l wishes to say to all fellow Nigerian like, any free are not good for

example singapore is free,seychelles is free that few l know but the point

and fact remain , you don't rest of mind , in entries the country and

inside the country of those so called free visas country , its better to

go to a country with a visa than to go to free soon , where you will be

restricted from having full access, for example ,l was in seychelles for

holiday and l meet nigeria guys whom the migration for that country has

been trying to trap down, l don't want to talk about the warm alarming

reception they give me in the mahe international airport( really GOSH

!!!!!) My little contribution and advice my brother and sister we got all

we have in our country, we are rich, on a normal sense, if you got

#500,000 to travel, and you travel and start hiding in a street for God

know when you will make it, if you can actually invite the money wisely on

a business , then you can make it wisely.
We Nigeria we are despirate in all ways of making money, we think

travelling aboard will make you buy the hammer you are been looking for,

No my brother and sister, you can make it big time here ,use your head.we

are bless and rich.VERY SOON $1 WILL BE EQUAL TO #1(ACCORDING TO THE

FEDERAL GOVERMENT REGALATIONS, WHICH MEANS THERE WILL BE NO ROOM FOR YOU

GUYS RETURE.
EDUCATION IS THE BEST REMEDY,I AM A STUDENT BUT I CAN'T WASH DIRTY CLOTHES

FOR ONE STUPID WHITE LADY OR MAN FOR SOME $$$.I AM A NIGERIA AND I AM

PROUD OF MY NATIONALITY, GOD BLESS MY NATION FOR ME.DONT GO TO ANYCOUNTRY

THAT IS FREE, ON THE POINT OF ENTRY THEY DECIDED TO GIVE 3DAYS ONLY OR

1WEEK OF 2WEEK AND AFTER THIS DAYS , THEY WOULD NOT ALLOW YOU TO STAY

ANYWHERE ELSE EXPECT HOTEL AND AFTER YOU HAVE FINISH SPENDING ALL YOUR

B.T.A YOU CAME THERE WITH ,THEN YOU DONT ANY MORE MONEY AND THEY WILL NOT

PRO-LONG YOUR STAY THEN , IF YOU DECIDED TO RUN AWAY FROM THEM , ITS VERY

EASY TO GET YOU , ONE YOU DONT SPEAK THEIR LANGUAGE , IN THE CASE OF YOU

BEEN THE ONLY BLACK MAN IN THE MIDST OF THOUSAND OF WHITE MEN AND WOMAN ,

YOU CAN RUN BUT YOU CAN'T HIDE , AND WHEN THEY GET YOU YOU WILL BROUGHT

BACK TO YOUR COUNTRY WITH SAME.DISCOVER YOUR TALENT IN NIGERIA, I HAVE

BEEN TO ESTONIA,SEYCHELLES, KENYA ,ITALY,SWISS ,SINGAPORE AND LONDON WHERE

I AM CURRENTLY STUDYING .TAKE MY ADVANCE AND IF YOU WANT REALLY TO TRAVELL

ABOARD , YOU CAN GET A STUDY VISA FOR ANY COUNTRY AND YOU WILL LIVE LIKE A

KING IN THAT COUNTRY.BUT DONT SAY THIS PERSON MADE IT IN ABOARD AND YOU

MUST GO THERE , THERE ARE SO MANY NIGERIA WHICH I SAW IN ALL THOSE

COUNTRIES I HAVE MENTIONED ABOVE , WHO CAN'T COME BACK HOME , THEY REMAIN

IN THOSE COUNTRY ALL IN THE NAME ," SAY MAKE MY PEOPLE SAY I DEY ABAORD

AND THE GUY IS ACTUALLY DIEING IN SILENT "NO WORK PERMIT , NO RESIDENCE

PERMIT, YOU KNOW THEIR STUDY RULES AND REGULATIONS.IN NIGERIA I AM A FREE

MAN , THAT REQUIRES NO CAMARE MONITORING ME IN THE STREET.,EVERY NIGERIA

DESTINY IS NOT IN ABAORD.
contact for more information if you want:
+44 70-111-21600 , my nigeria line 08023049608
I LOVE YOU ALL MY BROTHERS!GOD BLESS MY COUNTRY.I AM A KING IN MY COUNTRY

AND SO YOU ARE ALSO.I NO GO WASH PLATE FOR ANOTHER COUNTRY, NEVER!
Contact for more information if you want:
+44 70-111-21600 , my nigeria line 08023049608

your english na die o, perfect english for a uk student

well done mr justice, a real well done job. i spent my precious time reading this thread and decided to make my comment of appreciations for your article. please 4get about these guys who have problem because of what you know better. people should read this thread before making decisions on travel.