European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by FirstbornWds: 12:42pm On Jul 31, 2022 |
Trevor012: Baba keep quiet you have no thinking faculty. Real Madrid were getting knocked out in the round of 16 with different coaches for 6 consecutive seasons then Mourinho came in and took them to the last 4 for three consecutive years before Ancelotti replaced him and won in his first season. Only a donkey will think Mourinho groundwork for the last three seasons had nothing to with that. If I say Pep groundwork was a catalyst for the success Barca enjoyed for the few seasons after he left you will definitely say yes without hesitation but when it gets to Mourinho you foolish bias won't let you see it. Get lost with your nonsense. Dear Bot... I would like to thank you for your contribution. Now, stop mentioning me. Big Thanks. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by FirstbornWds: 12:40pm On Jul 31, 2022 |
hensben: When I posted what Madrid fan said about mou, how they are acknowledging his work with them and will want him back and glad that Perez has good relationship with him I didn’t mention you or pep but you commented and start saying rubbish, isn’t that hate? Perez approached him before going for Ancelotti and mou refused for now for personal reasons. Yeah, Ancelotti is good, mostly with veteran players hence his success but that doesn’t take away my statement on mou, perez and Madrid fan. Stop pretending of not been pained at the mention of mou like pep because people like you are dangerous. There's nothing to be pained or scared about Mou for. Absolutely nothing. The Van Gaal's apprentice has done nothing to warrant my hate. I am only opining that he doesn't just deserve the hype. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by FirstbornWds: 12:34pm On Jul 31, 2022 |
jpmoriarti: Yes I love Araujo as a CB but looking at our team now, we're well stocked in that position but we are very thin at the RB position.
So what do we do?
Araujo plays RB in the national team. So why don't we also use him there?
I sincerely dont see any issue with this. We better sacrifice someone else than not see Araujo as the CB o. Make Kounde train with the team first. We go see how it goes. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by FirstbornWds: 12:33pm On Jul 31, 2022 |
jpmoriarti: Best players are the ones who succeed under the most pressure. If you remove pressure from players, then they're no better than any armatures. Good luck to Fati.. I am wishing him the very best. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by FirstbornWds: 12:32pm On Jul 31, 2022 |
hensben: You are discussing his personality which is opposite to pep that beef his player and don’t tell them what the problem is until he hurt them, pep is a snake ant eto, zlatan and yaya hate him for that. Personally I prefer a realist to a snake, snakes are dangerous. Should we start mentioning players that hate Mou? The ones he coached I'd easily name them and the events that led to and events that followed. You claimed that he doesn't consent himself by calling himself the best whereas the reverse is the case. Any beef with Pep is his preference. He dropped Ibra for Messi which was the wisest decision ever. Yaya was surplus to requirement as Busi was the king for his base midfield. Next time they met, Yaya was already old and past his prime. Eto'o didn't fit his plans and he let him go. Good thing he achieved elsewhere. It's time to start leaving thing things the way it is because the victims are our brothers or preference. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by FirstbornWds: 12:27pm On Jul 31, 2022 |
Trevor012: There was nothing different in the mentality or Tactics. You are lying through your big teeth. Mourinho was the one who broke Madrid jinx of getting knocked out In the round of 16 which Ancelotti enjoyed. I really don't want to diminish my thinking faculty by arguing with you. So please, pass!! Thank you |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by FirstbornWds: 12:25pm On Jul 31, 2022 |
hensben: Have you watched Madrid when benz or the big guns are not playing. Perez know better than you, you are just a mere nairaland pained nigga on mou matters. Perez want mou for that reason I gave earlier seeing that those old guys will not be there forever. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-9644997/amp/Real-Madrid-Jose-Mourinho-approached-Los-Blancos-despite-recently-taking-Roma.html Wahala... Just imagine what you are saying... Pained over Mou for what? He's not my team's rival coach, and neither is he in any way affiliated with my team in any way. The only relationship with him should be the fact that he was slyed from becoming my team's first coach for Pep and he took the hate to other teams. Like I said earlier, Perez can put differences aside and make the most of Mou but not now that he has Ancelotti.. The special one can go to dust and Perez wouldn't mind because he has gotten capable hands to do the job. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by FirstbornWds: 12:19pm On Jul 31, 2022 |
jpmoriarti: I know everyone hailed that decision and we all wished Ansu Fati well in the no 10 shirt, but now everyone dey change mouth just because the kid had a downturn in fitness.
Maybe the added pressure because the team underperformed last season, but that does not mean to say he does not deserve it.
What we all should wish him is to come back to the level we all know he can reach. The club did not make a mistake. Y'all are not wiser than the club. In time, Ansu will show us all that it wasn't a mistake.
As for me, I will always hope he reaches the level expected of a Barca's number 10. There is no better player in the squad to bet for that lofty position than Ansumane Fati. I am wishing Fati well. I really want him to succeed but not under pressure abeg. Although, I know he stands a better chance of becoming dominant if he manages to triumph with the pressure. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by FirstbornWds: 12:16pm On Jul 31, 2022 |
jpmoriarti: Abidal could ghost up unexpectedly sometimes and notch up a goal or two sometimes, but he wasn't one of your best attacking fullback. 193 games and just 2 goals scored is not someone you will call an attacking fullback.
Sergi Roberto and Sergio Dest are not good players, neither defensively nor attacking. So what do we do? Keep playing them? Y'all saw how they were easily exposed against a modest Juventus attack. I thank God Xavi saw it. Roberto is really good attacking-wise. He can do everything needed to be done but you see defensively, that's his achiles heel. Dest, I don't even know how to make a case for him. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by FirstbornWds: 12:14pm On Jul 31, 2022 |
hensben: Thats because Madrid and Barca have different ideology, while barca nostalgia ideology regarding that Madrid is strictly on a business ground and they know who to pick at every time that benefit the club. Perez want mou to come and instill his firm mentality on the new crop of players after case, kroose, benz and Modric. All these talks about Perez wanting Mou are complete hear-say. They already have the best hands for the job in the name Ancelloti and he already won a ucl for them as well as the league. How foolish would Perez be to want to bring someone that might have forgotten his to coach a top flight team back to his winning ways? Abeg. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by FirstbornWds: 12:11pm On Jul 31, 2022 |
Trevor012: Saying Mourinho laid down foundation is not giving him unwanted glories. Before Mourinho came Madrid were regularly falling at the round of 16 in the champions league for consecutive years. He came in and took them to semis for three consecutive seasons. He left and the very next season Ancelotti wins La decima Which sets Madrid on their way to win 3 more champions league in few years. Nothing wrong in saying Mourinho was a catalyst for that. My guy, Mou didn't lay any foundation. He no even fetch water talk less of moulding block. His ideology of the game was a totally different one from what Ancelotti brought. He even went trophyless before being chased away. The mentality was completely different, and so were the tactics. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by FirstbornWds: 12:05pm On Jul 31, 2022 |
hensben: Even if they want Zidane, they want mou too because they want him to build a winning mentality in this new crop of players after kroose, Modric, case and Benz like he did before. Are you aware mou was approached by Perez before going for Ancelotti, he refused and went to Roma for personal reasons. Mou is not desperate to be seen as the best, he is a realist and doesn’t conform to fictional behavior. The same Mou with the big mouth? The same one that was asking to be respected after journalists quizzed him after a match and he felt uncomfortable being compared with other coaches in the epl? The same Mou that is renowned for his fight with Wenger. Talk about a desperate coach that wants to be seen as the best and it'll foolish not to mention Mou. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by FirstbornWds: 12:01pm On Jul 31, 2022 |
hensben: Nor be something them take Dey love person, why you Dey contradict yourself, them wan love am for loving sake before or mou na their girlfriend/boyfriend. Mou is a realist, he tell you to your face so that people like you that don’t love him will cry and at the end he always turn out to be right most times, e.g Pogba being a virus, Shaw and co. Whereas, pep had issues with players like eto, ibra, yaya. G rest, what you are saying is normal between players and coaches, stop being emotional, think logically. It'd be crazy to compare what Pep with Barcelona to Mou's impact to Madrid, in any way. It'd be the biggest insult. One gave an identity that no barca fan would choose any coach over if presented with options. Not even Johan Cyruff or Alex Ferguson in his prime days would be taken by any Barcelona fan ahead of Pep. The same cannot be said for Mou in Madrid. So, get yours facts right and read what I wrote again. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by FirstbornWds: 11:57am On Jul 31, 2022 |
jpmoriarti: Well, I dont agree with you. A typical Barcelona RB you say? Who is a typical Barcelona RB? And what has that gotten us in the last 7 to 8 years? Not everyone will be Dani Alves.
And remember the Dani Alves time, we usually played Eric Abidal as a LB, who is not very good offensively but more defensively and it worked wonders for us. We almost won 3 back to back UCL if not for Inter milan.
Since we switched to both attacking right back (Dani Alves) and attacking left back (Jordi Alba), what have we won actually? Only one UCL and plenty destructions in big stages.
With all due respect to Pep, having two attacking fullbacks have not won him anything in UCL yet. Kyle Walker is even very good defensively. Very fast and also very good attacking.
We don't have such profile in our team. Dest and Sergi roberto are both wacky defensively. Also very average attacking.
For me, if we cannot get Azipicuelta, then Araujo should play there in big games like Vardrid or UCL matches. Abidal was a force, offensively abeg... Damnnn, you think.it was a fluke that we went for Alba that was a winger then? We needed someone to reciprocate Abidal and Maxwell was just jonzing. Play well today, get lost tomorrow. Barcelona have always had Fullbacks that were great offensively, and more than decent defensively. Our mistake started when we started trusting Roberto to man that position and Semedo that was brought was a major downgrade that we all thought would progress but failed. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by FirstbornWds: 11:53am On Jul 31, 2022 |
BlaqFaze: The predecessor is currently wearing 30 in PSG...we put too much importance on number thereby creating unnecessary pressure Most notably, it is so for most fans, especially at an elite team like barca. Psg doesn't have Barca's fanbase and only a little is expected of them, even with the whole heavyweight they parade. But Barca fans would be looking to see their next number 10 perform wonders match in, match out.. Because that's what they've been used to for the last 15 years. Hence the importance. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by FirstbornWds: 11:49am On Jul 31, 2022 |
raumdeuter: How did you know those you posted are season ticket holders?
So if they ask Madrid fans about the coach they desire most they will skip Zidane who won them 3 CL, they will skip Carlo who won them 2 CL, they will skip Del Bosque who won them 2 CL Yes, and go for a coach that gave them 100 points winning la liga season after which he got chased away like a thief. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by FirstbornWds: 11:48am On Jul 31, 2022 |
raumdeuter: So Madrid fans are not eager to see Zidane who won 3 CL titles. They are not eager to see Carlo with 2 CL titles.
It's Mourinho that is now being tossed from one tier 2 Spurs to a tier 2 Roma they are eager to see Exactly. I am pretty sure most Madrid fans would prefer to have Zizou ahead of Mou, anytime any day. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by FirstbornWds: 11:44am On Jul 31, 2022 |
hensben: So multiple Madrid fans who go to bernabue every now and then don’t know what they are saying except you. Mou laid the foundation of that team is what they are saying. Ask 100 Madrid fan in Spain they will say same thing, they love mou and wish for him to come back again after the tenure of Casemiro, Kroose and Modric. They said he has a good relationship with Perez and he is eager to bring him back after Ancelotti. He didn't have a good relationship with Perez but the latter is a good businessman and knows when to exclude emotion from the business so I don't doubt that he might bring him back. Oga, the love of Mou by fans is solely on the fact that he was able to break the Pep dominance of the league. They saw premium shege during Pep's reign and it's normal that anyone that could break it would become a hero, even that person is you. If not... He didn't do shiiiit. How can someone who had most of his players on a black book, labeling them as failures and even justifying rival players as better than his crop, have been a good man-manager? Mou was good during his stint at Madrid, but that's where it ends. Any other thing is just famzing a man that took them away from Barcelona's dominance at that time. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by FirstbornWds: 11:37am On Jul 31, 2022 |
raumdeuter: When his fan boys don't have real things to attribute to him they manufacture things Very irrelevant take, this one. Just imagine the level of nonsense. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by FirstbornWds: 11:34am On Jul 31, 2022 |
andrewbaba44: Number 8 wasn’t free oga ,na Daniel alves collect am and pedri has been okay with his number ,so what’s your point now ?
Na Barca carry number 10 give fati ,no be say him request am
Ansu as a 10 is not wrong oga
You for Kukuma tell them to retire number 10 ,una Dey take this number thing too serious Number 8 was free for one entire Season and half, yet nobody collect until Jan this year. If you no no about the pressure of wanting to fill into shoes, especially by a footballing idol, then you can continue to sway with your ignorance of the number. It's not about the number right now but the predecessors and the need to perform on par with what they achieved which I think Ansu isn't qualified for, yet. I'm not hating on the guy, just worried about the pressure he might be carrying on a young shoulder. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by FirstbornWds: 11:30am On Jul 31, 2022 |
hensben: Ancelotti is a fantastic coach no doubt but you laid the foundation that genuine Real Madrid fans in Spain acknowledge when you ask them. That guy was one of the commenters on the page so why point out mistakes in his comment when that’s not the bone of contention or are you the trivial type in real life? As the other guy said, it's all fallacy. Mou did well with Madrid but citing the club's success after he left is just mete eye-service. Madrid was a team to reckon with from time immemorial and they had a little bit of a hard time when Pep came on and took over their reigns. Mou coming was just what any good coach would do and he achieved that by winning with the 100-pointers, after which he fell off with Perez and most of the important players on the team. Yet, he built them? Lmao, sounds like a tale told in the moonlight. No disrespect to Mou, but there should be levels to accruing unwarranted glories to him. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by FirstbornWds: 11:25am On Jul 31, 2022 |
BlueAngel444: some were poor because they were mistimed or miscommunication One of which frustrated KDB at one point that led him to lose the ball, angrily. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by FirstbornWds: 11:20am On Jul 31, 2022 |
Reminiscing Michael Jackson's - Man in the Mirror.
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by FirstbornWds: 11:14am On Jul 31, 2022 |
andrewbaba44: Pedri was okay with his number ,na now e request for the number 8
Na Barca carry number 10 give ansu fati and there is nothing wrong in that ,make una let the kid be abeg Your claim initially was that the number 8 wasn't free. Ansu as 10 is wrong.. Extremely wrong. But no wam.. I wish him luck |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by FirstbornWds: 10:56am On Jul 31, 2022 |
andrewbaba44: As if the number 8 was free when pedri was wearing another number Before Alves came, who was wearing it? Alves came in January transfer.. Remember?? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by FirstbornWds: 10:48am On Jul 31, 2022 |
tesppidd: Relax gee.
Its only a discussion and your tone is a little over the top.
I don't care how Xavi wants defenders who are good arielly, but Araujo is my favourite CB.
For me playing him elsewhere is tantamount to underutilizing him.
"For me" that is! It's a clear fact that everybody knows. Araujo is a CB and should only play as an RB when confronting pacy wingers. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by FirstbornWds: 10:47am On Jul 31, 2022 |
jpmoriarti: Nothing like tactical overthinking.
If you watched our game against Juve and saw how porous that RB was when Dest and Sergi Roberto played, you'll see those ones cannot be playing for us in a competitive game.
Against Vardrid, Araujo played again as RB and also caged Vinicius.
It is obvious we cannot be playing two attacking fullbacks. As LB attacks more, then our RB should be much stronger in defending.
This is where I welcome the idea of Araujo or Kounde playing there. They both play in this position for national team.
So I don't know where you're getting your overthinking talks from. If it's for solely defending purpose, then Araujo matches up but typical Barcelona RBs are not like that. Watch that there was a convincing range of play offensively when Roberto came on yesterday. I don't like him in the RB position because he's just not it defensively. But you check our fluid our attack was because he knew the right runs to make. Maybe Kounde can be the guy but it definitely shouldn't be Araujo. There's more to him as a CB than the RB. Pep will never play a RB that's poor offensively. The only time he tried it was against Madrid, first leg and we saw how bad it turned out to be. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by FirstbornWds: 10:42am On Jul 31, 2022 |
jpmoriarti: Rubbish talk. 100% disagree with you.
Ansu deserves this 10 shirt more than anyone. Just a couple of games in preseason where he still scored, you're already writing him off.  He doesn't deserve it. And it's a fact. He's pretty good but dishing it to a player that hasn't given us a consistent season with brilliant performance was a rash move. Pedri gave us more than a season-long brilliance and still waited for 2 seasons before getting the no.8 More so, the pressure from injuries sef and eagerness to always want to perform might kinda slow him. Right now, he doesn't deserve it and there's nobody in the team that does. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by FirstbornWds: 7:51am On Jul 31, 2022 |
BARCELONA WILL NOT HAVE PROBLEMS REGISTERING THE SIGNINGS, ACCORDING to AN EXPERT
The economist Iván Cabeza , an expert in the numbers of FC Barcelona , is certain that before August 31, when the market closes, the Barça club will have registered "all the players they have signed, because now" He is in a normal situation" in which he does not depend on the rule that only allowed him to invest one euro in footballers for every three he released.
This was explained in an interview with EFE. Barcelona is the football club that has spent the most money (153 million euros without counting the possible variables) in this summer transfer market and the football world wonders how the situation could have been reversed after the delicate economic situation that proceeds.
But the explanation does not lie in magic, but in the activation of the 'levers' that have allowed him to sign world-class players such as Robert Lewandowski (45), Jules Koundé (50) and ' Raphinha ' (58). With this investment figure, Barça is ahead of Bayern Munich and Arsenal, who spent 137.5 million and 132 million, respectively, according to the 'Transfermarkt' portal.
The so-called 'levers' are nothing more than the sale of club assets during a certain period of time. At the moment, the Barça club has sold 25% of the television rights of LaLiga for the next 25 years to the North American investment fund Sixth Street in exchange for 519 million, which represents an accounting capital gain of 667 million for the Barça coffers.
The first consequence of this income (100 million has been used to return a part of the loan from Goldman Sachs) has been that FC Barcelona has been able to quickly reverse the net worth, which at the end of the 2020-2021 academic year was negative by 451 million euros.
"It is very likely that Barça has already entered all the money from Sixth Street or, at least, a large part of it," Iván Cabeza explains to EFE . Thus, this income is also allowing the Barça entity to undertake world-class signings that they could not have even dreamed of just a few months ago.
Lewandowski , Raphinha and Koundé are three renowned players who will allow Barça to opt for all the titles in the course that is about to start. In addition, Franck Kessié and Andreas Christensen have arrived free , and the transfer market still has a month to go before it closes.
Despite the fact that there is talk of the possible need to execute a new 'lever' (the sale of up to 49% of Barça Studios, the club's audiovisual production company) or to sell valuable players such as the Dutch Frenkie de Jong or Memphis Depay to be able to register all the signings, Cabeza does not consider it necessary in this regard.
"Thanks to the 'levers', Barça may now already have the capacity to register all the players it has signed up to now. And, if not, it is very close to achieving it," says the economist, who at all times leaves Of course, his assessments cannot be exact because the club has not made public most of the data on the operations.
The sale of the club's assets has allowed a Copernican turn in the economic and sporting situation of Barça. But only time will tell if the move has gone well for Joan Laporta 's board in the medium and long term .
"For it to go well, it is not as important to win titles as to compete until the end, generating a brand. You must get back to where you were. This way you will always generate a lot of income (sponsorships, ticket sales, among others) that will allow you to reverse what you will stop entering annually because of the sale of assets", analyzes Cabeza .
The final challenge, according to the economist, "is to have a sustainable club, that the income at the end of the season is always higher than the wage bill, because in this way the debt can be covered (the last figure was 1,350 million, in the absence of close the financing of up to 1,500 million for the Espai Barça) and recover the income that you will not have for television rights (just over 40 per season)".
There is no turning back. Laporta has activated his solution to the situation inherited from the board of directors of Josep Maria Bartomeu . The performance of the team and the ability of the offices to convert the possible sporting successes into income will dictate the sentence. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by FirstbornWds: 2:47am On Jul 31, 2022 |
FergieRaww: Pique's Slayer  Has he left Araujo pocket?
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by FirstbornWds: 2:42am On Jul 31, 2022 |
�️ Xavi Lemus [Journalist]: “Baldé has shown this pre-season what he is capable of. If Barça do not consider him as an alternative to Alba, he should be loaned out. In order to continue progressing in the future, they should NOT repeat the mistakes like the sales of Grimaldo and Cucurella.” �
Agree or not? � |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by FirstbornWds: 2:33am On Jul 31, 2022 |
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